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An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 4, No. 10 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                            TABLE OF CONTENTS                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                            October 15, 2001HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]     Changes in the Valley     Changes at Syndicomm OnlineA2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS     Announcing Uploads to Library------------------------------------[AUL]     FYI - Morgan Davis-----------------------------------------------[IMD]     Updated Version of Python Script for A2 Forum--------------------[PSF]     SOAR and Four Digit Page Numbers---------------------------------[SFN]     SOAR v1b6 Available----------------------------------------------[SRA]     Old Internet Tools Revisited-------------------------------------[OIT]     Games You Have Programmed----------------------------------------[GYP]     Hammurabi by Thomas A. Compter-----------------------------------[HTC]     Silvern Castle v7.3 Coming---------------------------------------[SCC]     File Submissions-------------------------------------------------[FSS]     Lost Classic Project Info----------------------------------------[LCP]     Apple Release Source Code for Some Items?------------------------[ARS]     RAM for the IIgs-------------------------------------------------[RGS]     Using PING-------------------------------------------------------[UPG]     Learn to Program in Pascal Course--------------------------------[LPC]     Prizm------------------------------------------------------------[PZM]     SAFE Updated to v1.1---------------------------------------------[SFU]     Pointer on the use of SAFE v1.1----------------------------------[UOS]     Icons For Focus Drive--------------------------------------------[IFD]     Focus Utilities Disk Online?-------------------------------------[FUO]     The Future of Sweet16--------------------------------------------[FSS]     Pointers - Programming in C--------------------------------------[PPC]     Getting Started With REZ-----------------------------------------[GSR]     PNG Files--------------------------------------------------------[PGF]     Cell Phone for 911 Emergency Service Only------------------------[CPE]     Copy/Backup Files From Unix Account------------------------------[CBU]     Etiquette Question-----------------------------------------------[EQN]     Multi-Player DIABLO on the Mac or PC-----------------------------[MPD]     The SirCam Virus-------------------------------------------------[TSV]ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM     The Life With Diabetes forum-------------------------------------[LWD]     World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks--------------------------[TPA]     The New Star Trek Series, Enterprise-----------------------------[STE]     New Bulletin Board Software, Page 1600---------------------------[NSA]     New Bulletin Board Software, Mac Bulletin Board------------------[NSB]     New Bulletin Board Software Improvement--------------------------[NSC]DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS     FTP Files to the IIe Via a Mac-----------------------------------[FTE]LETTERS TO THE EDITOR     No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]     An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]KFEST 2002     Plan Ahead for K-Fest 2002---------------------------------------[PAK]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]-------------------------------         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>                           Changes in the Valley                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Changes are occurring in the valley seen from High Above The RockRiver.  The brisk nighttime air has sent a signal to the trees that thetime has come shut down the function of the leaves and move their nutrientsinto the trunk and branches.  This has produced a magnificant collage ofcolor... all shades of reds, oranges, yellows, maroons, browns... evengreens.  Autumn at its best.                        Changes at Syndicomm Online                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Changes continue to occur at Syndicomm Online.  More "interest forums"are being added.  Web access to the bulletin boards is being implemented.See the Syndicomm announcements section of this issue for more details.     All this in addition to the A2 forum with its busy bulletin board,chat area, and outstanding library of Apple II software.     To subscribe to Syndicomm Online go to <http://www.A2Central.com> andselect the link 'join'.  To learn more about Syndicomm Online go directlyto <http://www.syndicomm.com>[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]---------------------------------------------------DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com  |                                  (A2Central.com) |---------------------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[AUL]ANNOUNCING UPLOADS TO LIBRARY"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The library staff will use this topic to announce new uploads to ourlibrary. As we did previously on Genie and Delphi, we will try to use astandard message format for the benefit of OLR designers. This topic willbe closed, so if you upload a file to the library please remember to eitherupload a separate file description or send it to us via email(a2.library@syndicomm.com) so we can post it here for you.Tony Ward, A2 Librarian(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 1)[EOA][IMD]FYI - MORGAN DAVIS""""""""""""""""""FYIFrom: Morgan Davis [mailto:mdavis@cts.com]Wayne,No, it is no longer a service we offer.  A serving site would simply needthe source code (and probably a programmer or two to finish developmentwork to make it operate under modern Unix-based OS's).--Morgan  ----- Original Message -----  From: Wayne Arthurton [mailto:Wayne.Arthurton@us.didata.com]  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:30 PM  To: 'mdavis@cts.com'  Subject: Are UMDSS acnts still available now that you are hosting.com?  If not what would it take to make a umdss serving site?  Thanks,  Wayne Arthurton  ----- end original message -----(WAYNER, Cat 10, Top 31, Msg 1)[EOA][PSF]UPDATED VERSION OF PYTHON SCRIPT FOR A2 FORUM"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Here is an updated version of the python script to work for the a2 forum.# Simple Python A2Central.com Message Retrieverimport sys, os, time, telnetlib# Change these to suitusername = ''     # A2Central.com usernamepassword = ''     # A2Central.com passwordsavedir = '.'           # Directory to store the message file in#hostname = 'a2central.com'port = 23loginprompt = 'ogin:'passwordprompt = 'sword:'mainprompt = 'Page 1'bboption = 'm645;1'bbprompt = '1 ?'readcmd = 'bro nor nos'byecmd = 'bye'crlf = '\r\n'timestamp = time.strftime('%Y%m%dT%H%M%S', time.localtime(time.time()))filename = os.path.join(savedir, 'a2central-' + timestamp)if os.path.exists(filename):    sys.stderr.write('File already exists\n')    sys.exit(1)tn = telnetlib.Telnet()try:    tn.open(hostname, port)except:    sys.stderr.write('Cannot telnet to A2Central.com\n')    sys.exit(2)sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Login\n')tn.read_until(loginprompt)tn.write(username + crlf)sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Pass\n')tn.read_until(passwordprompt)tn.write(password + crlf)tn.read_until('Return')tn.write(crlf)sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Main\n')tn.read_until(mainprompt)tn.write(bboption + crlf)tn.read_until(bbprompt)tn.write(readcmd + crlf)msgs = tn.read_until(bbprompt)if msgs:    try:        file = open(filename, 'w')        file.write(msgs)     file.close()    except:        sys.stderr.write('Cannot write file\n')tn.write(byecmd + crlf)tn.close()print 'Done'(WAYNER, Cat 10, Top 57, Msg 48)[EOA][SFN]SOAR AND FOUR DIGIT PAGE NUMBERS""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Will SOAR be updated to handle the four digit page numbers?(Editor)>>>>>"""""The WTC forum is accessible using a web browser, too, athttp://www.syndicomm.com/communities/wtc/messagesit's preliminary and isn't perfect, but it does work.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 208)>>>>>"""""I have been caught out here. SOAR was written to handle up to the threedigit page numbers that Genie used. If Syndicomm is going to break this,and have many more four figure numbers in the future, I will release anupdate to SOAR.The SOAR logic needs to be updated in a number of places, and your Setupfiles will also need updating, so it is not a simple process to adjustthem. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 14 Sep 2001 - 51 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 209)>>>>>"""""GEnie had a number of forums with 4-page numbers, including White House at1600, Multimedia at 2000, and others.Our software supports forums with page numbers up to 32000, for the record,although I don't expect to ever use any beyond 9999.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 210)>>>>>"""""The Tax forum on GEnie was 1040.  The forum I used to run, PowerPCProgramming, was 1440.  PPC was also four digits.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 211)>>>>>"""""As I only ever used the A2, A2Pro and Mac Forums on Genie, and my UserManual was for GEnie not Genie, I had thought that page numbers only ran tothree digits.I will fix SOAR to handle the larger numbers in due course, but am advisedthat the Forum Sheppy has set up uses the new Forum format, so in any case,it might not work with SOAR as is.SOAR users please be patient while I sort this out. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 15 Sep 2001 - 52 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 212)[EOA][SRA]SOAR v1b6 AVAILABLE"""""""""""""""""""I have posted SOAR 1b6 on my home pages today.The main change is that it now accepts 5 digit page numbers, so you can add'WTC Aftermath' Page 1600, to your list of favorite pages.As far as I can tell, all the various functions and displays have survivedthe changes. You will find that your Forum.Setup and Forum.List files willbe automatically updated, and renamed, to reflect the changes.If you have any problems, or see any cosmetic problems as a result of thechanges, please let me know as soon as possible. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 24 Sep 2001 - 302 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 220)>>>>>"""""(Reports were posted as to problems with installation of the update.)(Editor)>>>>>"""""This problem has already been detected, and a fresh upload to my web sitewas made yesterday. Only the Updater script was affected, so I have notchanged the SOAR version number, but the upload date is now 27/9/01.--- cut --- Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 27 Sep 2001 - 299 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 223)[EOA][OIT]OLD INTERNET TOOLS REVISITED""""""""""""""""""""""""""""When I first started using the Internet, I remember hearing about toolssuch as "archie" and "veronica" (but no jughead).  I assume these utilitieshave gone the way of gopher, but what were they used for in their time?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 25)>>>>>"""""Archie was an FTP search utility that would search FTP sites for filesmatching a particular name query.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 26)>>>>>"""""I think there are still a few archie sites left (although there are bettersearch engines for ftp stuff these days).  I vaguely remember using archieyears back, but don't think I ever found anything I was looking for :)(KWS, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 27)>>>>>"""""In addition to those, there was also gopher.  I haven't run across a gophersite in some time.Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head GeekAlpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager(A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 29)>>>>>"""""Try gopher://nic.merit.edu:7055/11/apple/ , an Apple II gopher site.Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 35)[EOA][GYP]GAMES YOU HAVE PROGRAMMED"""""""""""""""""""""""""Does anyone have any games that they have actually programmed that werefun?  I remember putting together some text based adventures back in theday and even a simple snake game.   I wasn't much of a die hard programmer,but I did have fun taking basic games and altering them to see what strangeand wonderful things I could do with them.fun times.Dain NeaterKeeper of the BoardsA2 CommunitySyndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 35)>>>>>"""""Dain,Mostly I tried altering existing 8-bit games to make them more fun.  Neverworked though. <g>Anyone ever played the D&D game "The Missing Ring"?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 36)>>>>>"""""I started writing a tetris-game in applesoft once.  I got to the point ofhaving a falling block that could move, but that was about it.My favorite 8-bit game is probably a freeware DHR applesoft blackjack game,though.  I don't know who programmed it, it came with a bunch of others ona collection of PD applesoft games.(KWS, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 38)>>>>>"""""Like a lot of kids, I programmed my calculator in high school.  I wroteBlackjack and Red Dog, as well as a maze game (static mazes, not randomlygenerated).  I tried to adapt the idea behind the maze game to a two-player"light cycle" game but couldn't get the link code working correctly.On the Apple II, I wrote an Applesoft version of "Space Ship of Death", aBBS door game for the IBM PC and Atari ST.  My version ran under Warp SixBBS software.  SSOD was a text-based adventure-style game ("go north", "getitem", etc.) where players wander a maze, collecting weapons and defenseswith which to hunt and kill other players.  It was a lot of fun back then.:) With v1.1 I introduced interchangeable modules, so that instead of aspace ship, the sysop could also use a hotel or summer camp as thescenario.  I never finished the D&D castle scenario.For Spectrum, I've written Hangman and Mad Libs games to play with otherpeople in the text-based conference rooms of CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi, orSyndicomm.Funny... all these programs actually worked, yet I'm probably best knownfor Maxster. :p-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 39)>>>>>"""""Well, I can't say that it was fun, but I did program a simple war game inApplesoft that I sure had fun programming  :) When I get my stuff together,I'll try to have it available from my website.I called it STRIKEFORCE, and it was based on the fulda gap scenario of theearly eighties._________  | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 40)>>>>>"""""Well, in addition to YahtzeeNDA and Shipwrecked! I wrote a couple of gamesin Hyper C, a Star Trek one and a rendition of the board game Payday. Thefamily has had fun playing them from time to time.Kim HoweNewton Forum Host(KIMHOWE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 41)[EOA][HTC]Hammurabi by Thomas A. Compter""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Well, I'd almost forgotten about this.  I've been meaning to upload thishere for a while, but there's been a problem with my account that hasthankfully been resolved, and Hammurabi for the Apple IIGS should soon beavailable here.Anyone who wishes to is welcome to upload this to any of the reputableApple II archives, as long as you don't change or delete any of the files,etc.Below is the readme file included in the archive.************************************************************Program Name: HammurabiAuthor: Thomas A. CompterVersion: 1.0.1************************************************************This project came about from the combination of two goals that I had.First, I wanted to learn how to write a desktop application program for theApple IIGS, and wanted a very simple project to start with. Secondly, Iwanted to experiment with portability of modular programming.This is a rendition of an old text based Apple ][ Integer Basic game of thesame name, wherein you take the role of the King of a city-state andallocate resources within the city in order to increase the wealth andwell-being of the city.   I sort of think of it as the original Sim-City.Please don't expect anything nearly as cool as that, though.  Remember,this is my first attempt at a GS/OS desktop program, and I purposely wantedto tackle a SMALL project for my first one.  You should keep that in mindas you judge the quality.******  For Programmers  ******The core of the program has been written in what I hope is completelyportable,  pure ANSI C.   In other words, this code should compile and runcorrectly on any ANSI C compliant compiler.  Furthermore, although C is notin itself object-oriented, I have attempted here to write the code in anobject-oriented fashion.  The files ham.h and ham.c try to mimic the senseof a "class," in that all the code that affects the hamtype structure isperformed in ham.c. The goal was to minimize the effort needed to port theprogram to a GUI system by creating a pair of files (ham.h and ham.c) whichcould be included with any main program and still work perfectly.  Sincethis is C, and not C++, there is nothing to force the programmer to respectthe "wall", but if (s)he does, then the ham.x files should behave as aclass.  Source code is included in the archive.*****  For Everyone Else  *****There are two versions of the program, both are S16 executables. Hammurabiis the Desktop version, while HamText is the text-based version (the onethat should compile under any C compiler).Installation is accomplished by copying the files to a folder of yourchoosing.   Or you can run it off a floppy or floppy disk image, if you'rerunning an emulator.   If you like using aliases, by all means makeyourself one!  :-)************************************************************Instructions for the Desktop Version************************************************************I really hope that game play for the desktop version is self-explanatory.but just in case, here goes:You are in charge of allocating resources for your City-State.  You can buyand sell land, and choose to feed your people more or less.   Heed thewarnings you are given when the game begins!The goal of the game is to maximize the amount of land that your city ownsand utilizes, while keeping the populous fed.  Remember that it takespeople to farm the land!To accomplish any of the allocating, simply click on the appropriatebuttons.   When you are done allocating for the year, click on the "Go ToNext Year" button.************************************************************Instructions for the Text Version************************************************************The goals are the same as for the desktop version, but you make your movesby typing the letter that appears in (p)arentheses at the bottom of thescreen.************************************************************Legal Stuff************************************************************This game is distributed as Shareware.   The price of a legally licensedcopy is exactly 1 email message to me per version that you download tellingme what you think of the game, how it can be improved in either aestheticsor gameplay, etc. You can reach me at TomCompter@aol.com.The Source code is also Shareware, under the same stipulations as above. Ifyou decide to use my code in a project of your own, I'd appreciate someon-screen credit and a copy of your project.Thanks for trying my game._________  | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 32)[EOA][SCC]SILVERN CASTLE v7.3 COMING""""""""""""""""""""""""""Just wanted to announce the imminent upcoming release of Silvern Castlev7.3.  This release will mainly fix a few errors I discovered, including anasty bug in the automap routine that crashes when activated inside themoat (although the Extra's Menu automap feature works).By the way, who at syndicomm is now in charge of disk admissions?Jeff FinkSilvern author(FINKSTERJ, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 78)[EOA][FSS]FILE SUBMISSIONS"""""""""""""""">> By the way, who at syndicomm is now in charge of disk admissions? <<Well, I think it would probably be most appropriate to call them "filesubmissions", and that would be Tony Ward, better known as A2.TONY or Conanthe Librarian.Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head GeekAlpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 79)>>>>>"""""You can always email A2's current librarian by emailinga2.library@syndicomm.com -- in fact, this routes your message to everyonewith the ability to release library files.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 80)[EOA][LCP]LOST CLASSIC PROJECT INFO"""""""""""""""""""""""""We're still looking for copies of the Vitesse software for inclusion in thelibraries and FTP sites.  I do have Salvation awaiting upload--does anyonehave the other titles?  (Remember that Harmonie and Faxination weren'tincluded.)Thanks!Later.............Howard(A2.HOWARD, Cat 15, Top 3, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""I've got several titles I'm uploading tonight or Wed. depending on workschedule, and I don't have the list at hand.  I don't think I've got allthe titles from Vitesse you mentioned, but I'll check to find out.  :)We're in the process of getting a bunch of manuals scanned for ascii formatthanks to Greg Nelson and Erick Wagner, so more on that front soon too.Later........Howard(A2.HOWARD, Cat 15, Top 3, Msg 18)EOA][ARS]Apple RELEASE SOURCE CODE FOR SOME ITEMS?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Now that Apple has released Darwin and Quicktime streaming server as publicsource (even though Darwin is BSD and Mach, 2 open source projects), do youthink they could be convinced to release source code for some of their A2stuff? Maybe they wouldn't want to release the Finder or WindowMgr code,but original prodos, gs/os, hypercard, etc. would be nifty.(KWS, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 21)>>>>>"""""It might be worth making the attempt.  I don't see it as likely, since theonly reason Darwin is open source is because it was open source code whenApple cribbed it from FreeBSD. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 22)[EOA][RGS]RAM FOR THE IIgs""""""""""""""""Does anybody have any idea where I can purchase memory chips for a GS RamPlus?  I can no longer get Spectrum to run, although simple programs willwork for while.  When I run BitBanger, it consistently finds bad memory inmemory bank $08 (of $02-$61).  Since the only way I can currentlysuccessfully boot is not have any inits or DAs loaded, is the entire cardbad?  Should I really be looking for a whole new memory card?  Where wouldI find one of those for sale?David R. Pierce(DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""If I were you I would look into picking up a 4MB or 8MB Sirius RAM cardfrom Alltech Electronics http://www.allelec.com or calling..  Toll FreeSales Only  888/404-8848You can check out some of their Apple II wares athttp://www.allelec.com/indexa2.htmlThe 4MB Sirius Card is 79.00 and the 8MB Card is $99.00.  I have heardnothing but good things about them.  I think the 4MB card is alsoupgradable to 8MB provided you can find the Ram chips (It uses an oldermemory type that used to be used quite a bit in PCs).If any of this info is incorrect I apologize in advance.Good Luck,Dain NeaterBulletin Board Manager at A2Syndicomm Rocks!!!!!(A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""While I'm not sure where you'd get chips at this point, I need to point outthat Harold was pretty clear that BitBanger wouldn't get reliable resultswith AE memory cards.If you do want to get a new card, in addition to the places Dain mentioned,eBay is worth checking out.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 14)>>>>>"""""Thanks Dain, I'll give Alltech a call.  And Ryan, BitBanger worked fine forme a few (okay, many) years ago, so my gut feeling is that somethinghappened to my memory (take that either way and it is still right).David R. Pierce(DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 15)>>>>>"""""Yaa!  I'm back!  Just got the Sirius 4Meg board (they were out of the8Meggers and I didn't want to wait).  Stuck it in, ran BitBanger justenough to feel comfortable, opened up SOAR and couldn't connect (:  But itwas just a minor setback due to the fact that the connection had not beenshut down the last time I used it (many months ago it seems).  Anyway, nowI am off to see if I can get the latest updates to SOAR and SAFE.Boy is it nice to be able to use the GS programs again.David R. Pierce(DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 16)[EOA][UPG]USING PING""""""""""Background:My ISP's Tech Support has asked me to ping their mail server to help figureout why it has suddenly stopped responding to my GS accessing it via SAM.No one else is having this problem.  I can access Syndicomm's mail serverfine, using SAM.  Their mail server's log shows no response from my GSafter connecting.  My SAMlog and the SAM debug log both show no responsefrom the ISP mail server after connecting.  The problem started the dayafter they changed the IP on their server.  (I have already tried using adifferent DNS and using the new dotted IP address of their server with nosuccess.)I have Geoff's Ping EXE program.My questions:I dropped Ping into ProSel's exe commands folder.  I then connected with myISP using the Marinetti CDEV, dropped into the Prosel shell and gave thecommand "ping mail.montana.net". (mail.montana.net is the server inquestion.)  Ping displayed its initial message and then the GS immediatelycrashed into the monitor.1. Will Ping run properly from the Prosel shell?2. If so, how do I use it, since what I tried did not work?3. If not, which shells will it work from?(I have the full Orca suite of programs, shell, Prizm etc, and a many yearsold version of GNO/ME.  However, I have not gotten around to installing orusing either shell.  If one of these will work, can someone give me a quickand dirty how to do it, so I can report back to the Tech Support quickly?If I need to get the current GNO/ME, where can I get it?  I do not have anycomputer except for various Apple IIs.)Thanks,                     MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 39)>>>>>"""""I've used ping successfully under GNO/ME 2.0.6.  I'm fairly certain I'veseen it crash, as well (as all Marinetti apps do at times...).  the latestversion of gno/me can be found at the ftp.gno.org ftp site.  Seewww.gno.org for the exact location.  Installing gno.me is probably overkillfor just pinging a mail server, though :)Installing ORCA/Shell is much easier and requires less disk space.  If yourun prizm, I believe there is an option to start a shell window.  You couldtry running ping from there.I'd also suggest trying to ping again from ProSel.  Try it without startingMarinetti in the Cdev.  Try running the telnet app first.You could also try telnetting to port 25 and 110 (the smtp and pop3 ports,respectively) of mail.montana.net from spectrum to see if they can connect.If you have shell access, you could try pinging the server from their tofind the ip address, and then try connecting with that instead of themail.montana.net (Marinetti DNS is flaky, sometimes).(KWS, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 40)>>>>>"""""Kelvin,>> If you have shell access... <<Unfortunately, there is currently no ISP offering shell access in Montana.>> ... the latest version  of gno/me can be found at the ftp.gno.org ftpsite. <<Can this be downloaded using Syndicomm's Lynx?  SAFE does not work for me. >> Installing ORCA/Shell is much easier and requires less disk space.  Ifyou run  prizm, I believe there is an option to  start a shell window. <<Thanks for that advice.  I have a partition on my hard drive set aside forOrca.  So far, all that is on it is GSoft Basic.  I have been planning oninstalling the Orca shell, Prizm, Orca C, Orca M, and Orca Pascal but havenot gotten around to it.  It looks like I now have found a round tuit ;),at least for the shell and/or Prizm.>> I'd also suggest trying to ping again from ProSel.  Try it withoutstarting Marinetti in the Cdev.  Try running the telnet  app first. <<That sounds like the thing I should try first.>> You could also try telnetting to port 25 and 110 (the smtp and pop3ports, respectively) of mail.montana.net from spectrum <<I do not know how to telnet to a port.  I assume that I just fill in adotted address in the telnet dialog box in Spectrum's Services window.I got the dotted address for <mail.montana.net> from tech support (Ewenalso found it for me).  It is <216.146.116.1>.  Do I add another dot andthe 25 or 110 to that or what?Thanks for your help.  :)                               MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 41)>>>>>"""""Kelvin,I left the connection open when I finished with Spectrum, went to Proseland ran Ping from the shell to <mail.montana.net>.  It worked fine.  Thanksfor the advice!Is there any way to extract any more information from the ping connectionthan just that it sent and received an ICMP (whatever that means) echo fourtimes?  My ISP tech support gave me the impression that I would bereceiving detailed information regarding packets received, order of thepackets, etc.  That was what he wanted me to report to him.Thanks again,                        Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 42)>>>>>"""""ping is pretty simple.  Fancy ping clients can tell you how long it tookthe data to be sent, and if the data fragmented or not, but what's mostmeaningful is knowing if you can locate the host and they're responding(and it sounds like they are).I've never tried, but you should be able to append ":25" or ":110" to theaddress to specify which port you want to connect to.  I think the topiccops should probably start moving this conversation elsewhere :)(KWS, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 44)[EOA][LPC]THE LEARN TO PROGRAM IN PASCAL COURSE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I'm currently enjoying the Learn to Program in Pascal course.  I'm only onchapter three; hope to get through five a week until I'm done, then tackleToolbox Programming in Pascal.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""Enjoy that!  It's a great course, and I personally like pascal better thanC. You still have to deal with pointers, but it seems to me that they'rehandled a little better in pascal than in C.FWIW, (which may be very little :)  I've included the source to hammurabiin the archive that should be up here soon._________  | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 4)>>>>>"""""Pascal is definitely an easier language to pick up than C, but I find C tobe easier for doing Toolboxish programming.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 5)[EOA][PZM]PRIZM"""""After fooling with it for a few weeks, I really like Prizm.  I just wishthe GS had a bigger desktop to use it with :)Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""The screen is just too small for a GUI environment.  That's why I prefer todo my GS programming using MPW on the Mac these days.And of course, now that MPW is free, and MPW IIgs ORCA/C can be had for avastly reduced price... ;)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Sheppy, I know I've been in this discussion before (Deja vu?) but wasn'tthere some limitation, like MPW only working with an older, buggy versionof Orca C, or something?And MPW IIGS Orca/C is on Opus I, is it not?_________  | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""MPW IIgs ORCA/C is basically ORCA/C 2.0.3 instead of 2.1, which is a downside -- although the source is now available through the Opus ][ package,so perhaps an update might happen?The MPW IIgs ORCA/C compiler is indeed on the Opus ][ CD.Which reminds me -- if you share changes you make to sources on Opus ][ TheSource with me, I do have authorization to redistribute them to other Opus][ owners, so please do!Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 4)>>>>>"""""I was going to say that I thought MPW IIgs Orca/C was equivalent to 2.1,but looking at the product blurb:--MPW IIGS ORCA/C is a port of ORCA/C 2.0.3 ...MPW IIGS ORCA/C is almost a straight port of ORCA/C 2.0.3 to the MPWenvironment. The exceptions are some oft-requested extensions to C,like // comments and multibyte character constants.--But since the source for both is available ... :)BTW - great news about the opus ][ source code change redistribution,Sheppy.  Any plans to set up a registered owner site? (yeah, I know you'rebusy :)(KWS, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 5)>>>>>"""""No decision yet on how to handle redistribution.  I have permission to doit but there are some conditions I need to go over before doing anythingabout it.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 6)[EOA][SFU]SAFE UPDATED TO v1.1""""""""""""""""""""I have posted an update to the SAFE script set on my web site today.SAFE 1.1 fixes the problem some of you had double-clicking the List boxesto navigate folders. No other fixes have been made.We still wait an upgrade to Marinetti to fix the 'empty directory'syndrome, and hosts that require more secure authentication. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 18 Sep 2001 - 55 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 21)[EOA][UOS]POINTER ON THE USE OF SAFE v1.1"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""A note about the latest version of SAFE 1.1 on my web site.As Marinetti does not yet seem able to open local listening ports, despiteits docs saying they should work, please make sure that you check the 'Usepassive (PASV)' box in the settings dialog. You will sit forever waitingfor directories to be opened otherwise!The list box double clicking has been fixed with this release, but youstill me have problems opening directories on some hosts due to the otherbugs in Marinetti. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 5 Oct 2001 - 291 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 17)[EOA][IFD]ICONS FOR FOCUS DRIVE"""""""""""""""""""""At KFest this year, a few of us noticed that when Max Jones powered up hisIIGS that his desktop had a different icon for his Focus drive than theusual.  Where most have the standard hard drive icon, Max has one that isof the Focus card itself.  When I asked him about it, he believes that hisdrive came that way.  I asked Tony Diaz about it and he had never seen thaticon before.  Tony looked around Max's hard drive and found a FOCUS.ICNfile in his Icon directory.  Max had no idea where he got it though.Tonight I was thinking about it and figured that if it were anywhere, itwould be on the Time In A Bottle CD.  So I checked it out and sure enough.  Number: 26122  Name: FOCUS.ICN.BXY  Address: CHUNK.S                Date: 951206  Approximate # of bytes: 1240  Number of Accesses: 42  Library: 10  Description:  If you have one of AEC's new FOCUS HardDrive cards, you'll love this  ICON. It is a picture of the card. Your card's name must begin with 'F'  for it to work.  If you have an Icon Editor you may change this attribute  yourself. Enjoy! Packed with ShrinkIt GS 1.1.  Keywords: icons,Focus HardDrive,hard drives,gsOn the CD itself it can be found at:/Time.In.A.Bottle.Volume.1/Lib10.Icon/Icons/E-F/focus.icn.bxyThe "Your card's name must begin with 'F' for it to work." has me puzzled abit.  I tried to change one of the partition names to begin with a 'F' butthat didn't help.  Perhaps the boot partition has to begin with a 'F'?I'll have to try that next.Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 18)>>>>>"""""If you take a look at the icon with an icon editor (ICE would be my firstchoice), you'll notice there's only a large icon and it's set to match thefilename (or volume name, whatever :) F*.Why it's not working for you when you change a partition to beginning withan F I have no idea.  However, with an icon editor, you ought to be able toget it to match whatever you want.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 19)[EOA][FUO]Focus UTILITIES DISK ONLINE?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Hi.  I seem to have misplaced my Focus Utilities disk.  Is there an onlinesource for this disk?  A disk image perhaps?Thanks,Dain NeaterKeeper of the BoardSyndicomm A2(A2.DAIN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 20)>>>>>"""""You can get the Focus software (as well as some other relatively hard tofind Apple II driver software) at the Alltech web site:http://www.allelec.com/apple2sw.htmRyan(A2.RYAN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 22)[EOA][FSS]THE FUTURE OF Sweet16"""""""""""""""""""""One of these days I'll find time to work on Sweet16 some more... Syndicommhas been keeping me extremely busy.  And of course the uncertaintysurrounding BeOS lately has been dampening my enthusiasm just a little bit.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""Sweet16 really needs to be ported to a different OS.  I know that a Windowsport isn't going to happen too soon but perhaps a Linux port?Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 14)>>>>>"""""A Linux port has been authorized but the person that was going to do it hasbeen too busy and hasn't touched it.I'd frankly prefer a Mac OS X version, but I doubt that would be toleratedby the Bernie boys. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 15)[EOA][PPC]POINTERS - PROGRAMMING IN C"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Pointers in C are pretty inconsistent at times, especially when strings andcharacters are involved.Let's start at the beginning, shall we?  A pointer is very much like anarrow that points at a memory location.  It's a number that specificallyindicates the address in memory of a particular piece of data -- very muchlike an address, like 500 North Main Street, refers to a particular pieceof land.  Where a pointer in a computer indicates the address of, say, avariable containing the number 50, a home address indicates the address of,say, Bob Smith.Why are pointers important?  For several reasons.  Here are a few examples:1. At the lowest level, some important information in your computer'smemory is kept at a fixed memory location, which you must address using apointer.  For example, the low-level keyboard input register is at theaddress $E0C000.  So if you need to read the keyboard at the low level fromC, you might do something similar to:     char *keyboard = 0xE0C000;     char thekey = *keyboard;We'll get into the oddities of this syntax later on in this and/or otherposts.2. If you're going to pass a structure from one function to another in C,it's far more efficient and practical, in most cases, to pass a pointer toit instead of the entire structure itself.  This way, instead of dumping acopy of the entire structure through from one function to another, only thefour-byte pointer to the structure has to be passed around.3. The Toolbox uses pointers.  A lot.Now that we have some idea what pointers are and why they're important,let's take a look at how they work in C.A pointer, in C, is a particular type of variable, which is defined byindicating the type of variable that will be pointed to, and using theasterisk "*" before the name of the variable, as follows:char *letterPointer;int *intPointer;WindowPtr *myWindowPtr;The first is a pointer to a character.  Through a quirk of how C works, apointer to a character is the same thing as a string.  They'reinterchangeable, with some caveats; we'll look at strings in C in a minute.The second is a pointer to an integer.  Integers on the IIgs are 2 bytes.The third is a pointer to a window record structure.  You might pass thisinto Toolbox functions such as ShowWindow or HideWindow, or even SetPort.Creating a pointer variable, such as intPointer above, does *not* create amemory location to actually store the value pointed to by the pointer.  Itcreates a variable into which the address of a value can be stored.  Sonever, ever, do this:int *intPointer;    /* create an integer pointer */*intPointer = 0;    /* store 0 at the address pointed to */The value of intPointer -- the address of the integer variable -- is neverset here.  You're trashing memory when you stuff 0 into a random memorylocation.  Instead, be sure to do something more like this:int myInteger;      /* create an integer variable */int *intPointer;    /* create an integer pointer */intPounter = &myInteger; /* make intPointer point to myInteger */*intPointer = 0;    /* store 0 at the address pointed to */This is safe.  Clearly this is a simple example that doesn't make muchsense, but in a context of really making use of the pointer, it can be veryhandy.Let's look closer at the syntax.The ampersand "&" translates into English as "the address of".  So"&myInteger" is "the address of myInteger".The asterisk "*" unfortunately has two meanings (and therein begins theconfusion).  When declaring a variable, like this:int *intPointer;It means "this variable is actually a pointer".  In this case, a pointer toan integer.When accessing a variable, like this:int j = *intPointer;It means "the value pointed to by".  In this case, it means "the valuepointed to by the intPointer pointer".OK, what's with strings?A string in C is defined using a character pointer, like this:char *mystring = "This is a string";This creates a pointer to a character, called mystring, which points to thestring "This is a string".  This is the first of C's annoying specialcases.Let's compare:int *intPointer = 0;char *mystring = "This is a string";The first of these creates a pointer to an integer, intPointer, and sets itup to point to the address $000000.The second creates a pointer to a string, mystring, but also tells the Ccompiler to insert the string "This is a string" into your program code andset up mystring to point to it.  This isn't very consistent at all.Strings in C are basically an array of characters with the last characterin the array being the byte value 0 (also called the null character).We'll look at the relationship between arrays and pointers in a futurepost, perhaps.We'll continue this look at pointers in C soon.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 52, Top 13, Msg 1)[EOA][GSR]GETTING STARTED WITH REZ""""""""""""""""""""""""What's the best way to get started with Rez?  I'm always confused by it.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 1)I learned rez from a tutorial on ground called rtutor.  This was way backwhen ground was grind, and not just a pile of mud :)  I'd bet TIAB has it,or possibly other rez info.  rTutor included C and rez code, as well astutorial information.To learn rez, I think you need to just stick your hands in it, by lookingat rez files, disassembling resource forks, and looking at resources inyour favorite programs with something like Genesys or Foundation.  Or skiprez entirely and use one of the above :)(KWS, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Best way to learn Rez is to just copy existing Rez code and alter it.  It'sactually a pretty simple "language".Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 3)[EOA][PGF]PNG FILES"""""""""What is it about PNG files that people think is so great, other than it notbeing Unisys-impaired?Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""Two of the biggest reasons PNG is better than GIF:1) Alpha transparency support.  GIF supports transparent pixels, but it'san all-or none proposition, which can cause hard edges and transparentpictures can look like crap on the wrong color background.  PNG hastransparent pixels, but a pixel can be a colored and 50% transparent.2) Unlimited colors.  GIF is limited to 256 colors (255 with transparency),which doesn't work well for photos or smooth color blending.  PNG supportspretty much unlimited colors.But, there's 2 advantages GIF has over PNG:1) Not all browsers deal with png natively (I think all modern ones do,though).2) GIF animations.And just to be thorough, 2 advantages of PNG over jpeg:1) Transparency.2) non-lossy compression (PNG compression is generally as good or betterthan GIF).(KWS, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Significant disadvantage to GIF vs. PNG is Unisys's patent insanity.Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head GeekAlpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager(A2.RYAN, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""The claim that modern browsers support PNG seems to be a load of hooeythough.  We spent a couple hours trying to get them to consistently workthe other day, hoping to use them on our webside board, and no matter whatwe did, some browser or another wouldn't recognize the files.  We finallygave up and went with GIF instead.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 4)>>>>>"""""I think Unisys' lzw patent expires soon.  And I think most Europeancountries don't accept the validity of software patents.Some browsers do behave erratically with png pics, though.  IE 4 (pc), inmy experience sometimes shows them, sometimes doesn't. and sometimes showsthem with quicktime (and takes forever to display).  It may be that somepictures are stored slightly differently, or invalid, or something.(KWS, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 5)[EOA][CPE]CELL PHONE FOR 911 EMERGENCY SERVICE ONLY"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Awhile back we were talking about cell phones, and Gary noted that eventhose not subscribed to a service can dial 911.  I stopped by the localCingular store today and they confirmed this, but presented me with thedilemma of acquiring a phone.  A cell phone costs $219 by itself, but only$19.95 or so with a minimum one-year service plan, which comes with a $150early termination fee, so no matter, what it's an expensive piece ofhardware.Does anyone know of cell phone providers who specialize in emergency usageplans?Or does anyone have a cell phone they're no longer using? :)-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 226)>>>>>"""""There are many cellulars at local Goodwills and such for just aboutnothing.Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head GeekAlpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 228)>>>>>"""""I've seen ads for cheap cell phones ($20 or so) that don't come with aplan, but instead come with xx minutes of usage (sort of like a phonecard), and you can buy additional time as well.  I think I've seen theseadvertised at office supply stores (like Staples) as well as generaldepartment stores (like Ames).(KWS, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 229)>>>>>"""""My son has an ATT Wireless phone like that. The unused time expires after90 days, but adding more time with a new card extends it to 90 days fromthe date you activate the new card. You can buy in sizes you actually use,so for small volume use, it's cheaper than any monthly fee plan.For regular users, the monthly plans are cheaper, but do require acommitment, and good credit.If all you want is to be able to dial 911, a used phone is the way to go. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu  4 Oct 01  9:59:25 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b6 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 292 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 230)[EOA][CBU]COPY/BACKUP FILES FROM UNIX ACCOUNT"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Dunno if this is the right topic.Now that I've graduated, my college account is about to expire.  I need tocopy/backup all the files from my Unix account before they disappear onFriday.  Any suggestions as to the best/quickest way to do this from myPowerBook?Some ideas:- telnet and sz the files, or ftp the files, one-by-one.- telnet, zip, and sz/ftp the collected files.- Mount the account via AppleTalk and copy the files in the Finder.- Mount the account via AppleTalk and Drop stuff the files onto a local  volume.-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 221)>>>>>""""">> - telnet, zip, and sz/ftp the collected files. <<This is what I'd do.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 222)>>>>>"""""It's also what I would do, but I wouldn't sz, just ftp.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 223)>>>>>"""""Thanks guys.  Which is quicker: FTP over TCP/IP, or sz over direct dial-up?(I have a 56K modem.)Also, many files in my account have filenames beginning with a period.  IfI use the command "zip backup .* *", as recommended in the man pages, thezip command tries to archive everything in the parent directory, as well asdirectories located in the parent - ie, just about the entire server - whenit tries to zip ".".  Any idea how to get around this?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 224)>>>>>"""""Ah!  I solved what ailed me.  I'd forgotten I'd long ago aliased "zip" to"zip -gr", and the "r" flag causes the zip command to recurse through allavailable directories.  I unaliased it and backed up all my files intobackup.zip using these two commands:zip backup .*zip -gr backup *Thanks,-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 225)[EOA][EQN]ETIQUETTE QUESTION""""""""""""""""""I have an etiquette question.I write a weekly newspaper column which I would like to submit forsyndication.  There are at least three syndicates I am interested inpending proposals to, but I think I once read or was told that it is notkosher to solicit the same material to multiple vendors simultaneously.OTOH, each syndicate can take as long as ten weeks to return a response,and I'd rather not take 30 (7.5 months!) weeks to get all my responses in!Any suggestions on if it is acceptable to mail my material to threesyndicates at nearly the same time?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 53)>>>>>"""""I would say that, yes, it's kosher. Be aggressive. They are when they tryto sell the stuff.Go get 'em, Ken.Oh, by the way, did I ever return your call when you approached me aboutpurchasing your column? :-)Max(JUICEDGS, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 54)>>>>>"""""I would do it.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 55)[EOA][MPD]MULTI-PLAYER DIABLO ON THE MAC OR PC""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I'm trying to get a few Apple II folks together this evening to play anetwork game on their Mac or PC together, as kind of a group effort to getour minds off the news.So far, most of the people I've talked to have either Diablo I orCivilization II Gold, so I'd suggest we play one of those games.  Anyoneinterested in a game starting at, say, 5:00 PM Pacific time?Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 212)>>>>>"""""Sheppy,I'd be interested in making this a weekly event.  I'm not around next weekbut please keep us updated.  I have both the games you mentioned, but havenever played Diablo and suck as Civ II.  Plus I'm on dial-up, FWIW.-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 213)>>>>>"""""Well, I'm hanging around for a while tonight hoping someone will play withme, but I like the idea of a weekly event.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 214)>>>>>"""""Dain and I played Diablo together tonight.  We had fun but got ourselvesinto a sticky situation we weren't ready for and got nailed hard.  We'regoing to play every Sunday. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 215)>>>>>"""""Arrgh!  I didn't read the forum yesterday, so I missed some multiplayerdiablo!!  I hope I don't miss it next week :)(KWS, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 216)>>>>>"""""Not sure what time we'll start next week; I hope earlier in the day thanthis time. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 217)[EOA][TSV]THE SirCam VIRUS""""""""""""""""A tec support email I received states that "the SirCam virus has its ownSMTP engine."  That can't possibly mean what I think it means, so couldsomeone tell me what it means, and how that's possible?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 32)>>>>>"""""I assume it means that instead of relying on the existence of an emailprogram like Outlook to send copies of itself to others, it has its ownSMTP client built in.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 33)>>>>>"""""Egads. If we're talking about the same virus, and I think we are, I spenthours over the weekend trying to help a friend who caught that virus on herPC. Whatever you do, if your virus checker IDs the virus but says it can'tfix it, do not let your virus checker delete the 2 infected files, or thePC won't be able to run any programs.What it does after infecting your system, is that it sends it out to othersin your address book. But, it may be even more insidious that just that, asmy friend got it in e-mail from someone she didn't know.The very latest McAfee DAT file has the cure for it. It also requires thevery latest McAfee engine. That is, if you can go online to download those.In any case, enter the virus name into Google, and look for the entry fromthe University of Maryland. They have a link to a stand-alone program youcan download from Norton that will nuke the virus. They also havestep-by-step instructions on exactly what to do to get the PC up andrunning again.In my friends case, I had to come home to download the Norton file, whichfits on a 3.5" disk, and then could only run it on her machine from DOS,after booting the computer from a Win98 Startup disk.That whole experience really made me appreciate my IIGS even more. It's adangerous world out there for PC users.Joe(JOKO, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 34)[EOA]------------------------------------      ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[LWD]The Life With Diabetes forum""""""""""""""""""""""""""""has now opened at page 955, keyword DIABETES.  Share your experiences withdiabetes, and talk to others with this disease.(Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online)[EOA][TPA]World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Syndicomm has opened a new community for discussing the World Trade Centerand Pentagon attacks.  Share your feelings, share your sorrow, share yourthoughts.  Keyword WTC, page 1600.(Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online)[EOA][STE]THE NEW STAR TREK SERIES, ENTERPRISE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Talk about the new Star Trek series, Enterprise, in the HelpDesk forum'scategory 50, topic 1, at page 150, keyword HELPDESK.(Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online)[EOA][NSA]NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE, PAGE 1600""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The World Trade Center/Pentagon discussion forum at page 1600 is runningour new bulletin board software.  The software isn't finished yet, but ismaking rapid progress.  You may visit it on the web athttp://www.syndicomm.com/communities/wtc/messages.So far this week, we've done some major revamping to the look and feel, andURLs are now clickable in messages.We have lots more to do, but it's moving along, and we thought we'd shareour progress with you.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(HelpDesk Bulletin Board, SYNDICOMM, Cat 4, Top 6, Msg 1)[EOA][NSB]NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE, MAC BULLETIN BOARD"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""This forum has now been upgraded to our new bulletin board software.Some textside commands don't work yet in this version of the software, butyou can now access this board using your web browser:http://www.syndicomm.com/communities/mac/messagesEnjoy!Sheppy(Mac Bulletin Board, SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 1, Msg 2)[EOA][NSC]NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE IMPROVEMENT"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The new version of the bulletin board software (currently in use on pages605 and 1600, MAC and WTC) now has scroll prompt support on textside.  Itdoes not yet automatically determine your screen height from the windowsize reported by your terminal program yet like the old version does, butthat's coming in the next day or two.  For now it just assumes 24 lines.Dave Miller    justdave@syndicomm.com + justdave@justdave.netLead Software Engineer/System Administrator, Syndicomm Onlinehttp://www.syndicomm.com/            http://www.justdave.net/(HelpDesk Bulletin Board, JUSTDAVE, Cat 4, Top 2, Msg 36)[EOA]------------------------------------      DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[FTE]FTP FILES TO THE IIe VIA A MAC""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I've found some files that are available as FTP files for the Apple II --programs and discs from Nibble Magazine.What I don't know how to do is how to get those files through my G3 Mac ina manner that will allow me to use them on my IIe.The download says that the files can be unpacked with Shrinkit. I haveShrinkit on my IIeI capture the files on the Mac and they appear on the desktop, but when Itry to copy them to a Prodos formatted disc I get error messages.Do I need to do something special to get usable Apple II files whendownloading them via the Mac ??ThanksStan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 3516.1, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""ProDOS file names are picky so make sure you are using a valid prodos namefor the file. I had a similar problem when I transferred files via MS-DOSdisk. For instance, ProDOS can't accept spaces. Try using periods.C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstruttsEmail: wrstrutts1@home.com(WILLIAM7622, 3516.2, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""Dear William,Thank you. That was exactly the problem. The file name I was trying to copyhad 16 characters, and Prodos only allows 15.HOWEVER, that doesn't completely solve my problem.Now that I have the file on a Prodos disc, Shrinkit doesn't recognize thefile. Copy II Plus shows the file with a FileType of $00Trying to VIEW the file as with Copy II Plus gives an I/O error in Block$FBAAAny suggestions ??ThanksStan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 3516.3, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""Did you download the file using Netscape? There is a known bug in Netscapewhich is referred to as "cooking" the file. There is a program called"uncook" which fixes it or you could try downloading it using InternetExplorer.C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstruttsEmail: wrstrutts1@home.com(WILLIAM7622, 3516.4, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""I did in fact use Netscape.I don't see any message in my Netscape book about 'cooking' or 'uncooking.'Any idea where I'll find the 'uncook' program ?I'll also try the Inet Explorer route.ThanksStan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 3516.5, Delphi A2 web side)[EOA]------------------------------------             LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |------------------------------------[NLE]NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.[EOA][LTE]AN INVITATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of theApple II computers.Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][KFT]------------------------------                       KFest 2002 |-----------------------------------[PAK]PLAN AHEAD FOR K-Fest 2002""""""""""""""""""""""""""KansasFest 2002 is scheduled for July 23 through 28 of 2002.  Plan ahead.Mark your calendar.  Start saving your money.  Join us for K-Fest 2002![EOA][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on"""""""""""""""   the WEB at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computersusing Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes.  Apple II Forever!     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2001 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All       rights reserved.     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to       thelamp@sheppyware.net     * All issues of The Lamp! are available at The Lamp! Home Page,       http://lamp.a2central.com/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do notnecessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Delphi OnlineServices, Syndicomm, Ryan M. 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