[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path | | |_|----------------------------------- >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm.com AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 4, No. 6 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ June 15, 2001HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] A Great Day Speaking of BargainsA2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS New Home on the WEB for _The Lamp!_------------------------------[NHL] An OLR for the Palm OS?------------------------------------------[OFP] Gamebits Forum is Looking for Reviewers--------------------------[GFR] Singles Forum is Hiring------------------------------------------[SFH] Higher Prices for CDR Blanks Down the Road?----------------------[PCB] A Source for Used Computers and Parts----------------------------[SUC] Earthlink Experiences?-------------------------------------------[ELE] Updated SOAR Available-------------------------------------------[USA] FreeWare FTP Client for IIgs-------------------------------------[FFC] HTML in Email----------------------------------------------------[HEM] Possible to Include One HTML File in Another?--------------------[HFA] Are Style Sheets Lynx-Friendly?----------------------------------[SLF] System Saver IIgs------------------------------------------------[SRI] A Subwoofer With the IIgs?---------------------------------------[SWG] Canon S400 Printer With the IIgs?--------------------------------[CPG] ProTERM A2 Information-------------------------------------------[PAI] Quick Click Morph------------------------------------------------[QCM] Kangaroo---------------------------------------------------------[KGR] SuperConvert 4---------------------------------------------------[SCF] Which Printers Work With Harmomie?-------------------------------[WPH] New WEB Site for Spectrum Internet Suite-------------------------[NWS] Making Disk Images-----------------------------------------------[MDI] Problem Running Bernie 3.0---------------------------------------[PRB] What Would You Want in a New Version of Sweet16?-----------------[NVS] Control Manager--------------------------------------------------[CMR] Bargains on CD-R Media?------------------------------------------[BCM] Extra Space on a CD Wasteful?------------------------------------[ESW] Burning CD-ROMs for Use With Apple II----------------------------[BCA] The CoPilot Challenge - Time Running Out-------------------------[TCC] Accelerator Talk-------------------------------------------------[ATK]DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS Impressed With Keggs32-------------------------------------------[IWK] Feelings on the Apple IIgs---------------------------------------[FAG]LETTERS TO THE EDITOR No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE] An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]KFEST 2001 K-Fest Registration Information----------------------------------[KFR] Getting Ready for K-Fest-----------------------------------------[GRK]EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson A Great Day ~~~~~~~~~~~ From the patio High Above The Rock River, indications were that it wasgoing to be a great day... deep blue sky... temperature just right...gentle breeze blowing. Then there was the email from Ryan... The Lamp! was getting a newonline home. The stroll downtown went especially well... no waiting at threestoplights in a row... the flowers in the little corner park were lookingreally beautiful... I got a real bargain on bananas at the 320 Store. Speaking of Bargains ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Syndicomm Online continues to grow into a better and better bargain.The Apple II people have a place to chat, a great bulletin board toexchange information and a huge software library. Other online communities have been established. These include theRefunders' Refuge, Palm OS handheld computer users, video gaming inGamebits, and a SINGLES hang out. Electronic mail can be read through an outside POP account and sentout via text or an outside SMTP account. The HELPDESK is available to all who need help using the variousfeatures of Syndicomm Online. All this for only $10 per month or $25 per quarter. An upgrade to a premium account (an extra $5 per month) provides spacefor maintaining a personal web site, email via Pine and web browsing viaLynx.[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________ _ _ _|__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]---------------------------------------------------DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com | (A2Central.com) |---------------------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson [NHL]NEW HOME ON THE WEB FOR _The Lamp!_"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Finally._The Lamp!_, _A2 News and Notes_, and the old _GenieLamp A2_ and _GenieLampA2Pro_ archives have a permanent home on the Web:http://lamp.a2central.com/RyanHead Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 20, Top 20, Msg 34)[EOA][OFP]AN OLR FOR THE Palm OS?"""""""""""""""""""""""How feasible would a Palm OS OLR for the A2 Forum be? I find that using anOLR such as SOAR (thanks Ewen) makes the experience of the Bulletin Boardsmuch more enjoyable. Having messages that you could take with you would begreat. Dain Neater - Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b3(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 29, Msg 54)>>>>>"""""There are a few telnet clients for the Palm, and it would be ideally suitedfor an OLR, getting/sending messages during a Hotsync. Of course, now wehave a Palm OS Forum where we can discuss such things. . .RyanChief Sysop Pro Tem, Palm OS, Page 590(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 29, Msg 57)[EOA][GFR]GAMEBITS FORUM IS LOOKING FOR REVIEWERS"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Gamebits is looking for reviewers! If you love video games and want toshare your gaming opinions in writing, please drop an email togamebits@syndicomm.com with some information on your writing background anda list of modern systems you own. Compensation would be in the form offree video games that you keep after reviewing.The Gamebits Community on Syndicomm is page 850, keyword GAMEBITS.-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 35, Msg 5)[EOA][SFH]SINGLES FORUM IS HIRING"""""""""""""""""""""""Singles is also hiring, looking in particular for a chief sysop, bbmanager, and RTC hosts and manager. Please contact a2.ryan@syndicomm.comif interested.RyanHead Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 35, Msg 6)[EOA][PCB]HIGHER PRICES FOR CDR BLANKS DOWN THE ROAD?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I saw a report the other day, unsubstantiated, that the current low priceof CDR blanks is due to overproduction. Evidently the industryoverestimated world consumption! It suggested that when the currentsupplies were exhausted, prices might rise by up to 350%.I have no means of knowing whether that will be the case or not, but youall might like to lay in stocks just in case! Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 25 May 2001 - 61 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 3, Top 2, Msg 61)[EOA][SUC]A SOURCE FOR USED COMPUTERS AND PARTS"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Here's a link to site that salvages computers. Among other things, theysell IIgs CPUs for $20. (They don't list any other Apple II parts at thistime.)They do seem to have a very interesting supply of used Mac parts, and someused Macs at pretty nice prices.It's called Junkyard Jeffs.http://www.users.qwest.net/~jgarbacz/Gary R. Utter(HINDMOST, Cat 3, Top 2, Msg 64)[EOA][ELE]EARTHLINK EXPERIENCES?""""""""""""""""""""""Earthlink is currently offering a special on DSL for Delphi members,according to an ad on the front page of www.delphi.com. Free installation,free hardware, and free activation. I checked to see if Earthlink DSL isavailable where I live, and it is: 1.5MB download speed for $50/month.Last time I had DSL installed, I got free installation (a $225 rebate fromCovad) and $200 hardware (discounted from $359). So this sounds like agood deal.Does anyone have any success or horror stories with Earthlink, especiallytheir DSL service?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 10, Top 4, Msg 15)>>>>>"""""I have earthlink as an ISP (they bought out the company that bought out myisp). Prepare yourself for a deluge of SPAM. Dialup PPP, sometimes thelogic/authentication times out, so your effectively denied service, andonce in a while, DNS doesn't work.(KWS, Cat 10, Top 4, Msg 16)>>>>>"""""Last year instead of the Concentric account I usually take out during mysummer trip, I took out an Earthlink account instead. I was less thanthrilled.his year, it's back to Concentric.RyanHead Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 10, Top 4, Msg 17)[EOA][USA]UPDATED SOAR AVAILABLE""""""""""""""""""""""(May 19, 2001) Jeff reported a bug in trying to enter new Forums. I havefixed that, and an updated SOAR can be downloaded from my web site.I have also included an updated ScriptEditor XCMD. This should improve theauto-formatting of messages... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 19 May 2001 - 67 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 174)[EOA][FFC]FreeWare FTP CLIENT FOR IIgs""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Spectrum Automated File Exchange v1.0=====================================Shareware Solutions II, is pleased to announce a FreeWare FTP client forthe IIgs.Written by British author Ewen Wannop, SAFE is an easy-to-use yet powerfuland comprehensive FTP client that permits users to transfer filesbi-directionally to and from FTP hosts. SAFE is written as a script set forSpectrum.SAFE supports: + multiple file transfers in either direction + resuming of partial downloads + renaming, deleting, and folder management + favorites list for ease of use SAFE requires Spectrum 2.5.2 or later, using Marinetti 2.0 or later.SAFE is FreeWare, and can only be obtained from designated sources.Download SAFE now from:http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/Questions about SAFE? Contact Ewen Wannop at speccie@mac.comIf you need to upgrade your copy of Spectrum, contact Joe Kohn atShareware Solutions. The cost of Spectrum v2.5.2 is $35, and first timebuyers can purchase the complete Spectrum package by credit card, on either3.5" disk or CD-ROM, at Shareware Solutions II's online store, located at:http://order.kagi.com/?zs3Low cost updates for those who purchased Spectrum from My eSource areavailable only through the mail, as proof-of-purchase must be supplied.Costs for updates are as follows: * v1.0-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $25 * v2.0-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $20 * v2.1-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $20 * v2.2-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $5 * v2.3-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $5 * v2.4-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $5 * v2.5.1-=>v2.5.2 upgrade $5 * v2.2 or later -=>v2.5.2 Deluxe CD upgrade $10 * all other updates-=> Deluxe CD $25 * First time buyer-=> Floppy or Deluxe CD $35Shareware Solutions II166 Alpine Street San Rafael, CA 94901 Questions about Spectrum v2.5.2? Contact Joe Kohn at joko@foxvalley.net Shareware Solutions II's web site is located at:http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 60, Msg 9)[EOA][HEM]HTML IN EMAIL"""""""""""""Lately, all email I receive from Hotmail has been formatted in HTML, with
tags everywhere. It seems to be a recent development. Theformatting is invisible in PINE, but shows up clear as day in ClarisEmailer, unfortunately. (haven't tried SAM)A friend of mine writes that "Hotmail has an option to send as rich text ornot, that's about it."Is this a recent development? Any way to get my "friends" to stop codingtheir messages to me in HTML, other than not using Hotmail?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 21, Msg 9)>>>>>"""""SAM will format and display HTML in mail messages, but rich text would bedisplayed unformatted. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 11 Jun 2001 - 44 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 21, Msg 10)[EOA][HFA]POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE ONE HTML FILE IN ANOTHER?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Is it possible to include one HTML file in another?I have several directories on my website, each with an index.html that usesthe same code for the navbar. If I want to change the navbar, it's likelyI'll have to update a dozen different index.html files. If they allreferenced just one other file, though, that would be much easier.-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Not using raw HTML. However, if your web server supports server-sideincludes, you can do it. Check out the Apache web site for information onhow to do it (www.apache.org).Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""php ( a popular hypertext preprocessor) can include other raw html filesand do other tricks. I'm sure perl can also do the same. Or you couldwhip up some scripts of your own to generate the final html files from aheader file and a file of page content.(KWS, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""Ken,It sounds like all you have to do is make sure your html file has theproper extension (.shtml instead of .html, etc.) in order for SSIs to work.That's pretty common, actually. These are the commands you need:The path is relative to the directory of the current file. If you need toinclude a file relative to the server's base directory, try this: - Tony(A2.TONY, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 10)[EOA][SLF]ARE STYLE SHEETS LYNX-FRIENDLY?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Are style sheets Lynx-friendly?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 7)>>>>>"""""Style sheets definitely aren't Lynx-friendly, unless you design the pagecarefully. But style sheets themselves are ignored by Lynx.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 29, Msg 8)[EOA][SRI]SYSTEM SAVER IIgs"""""""""""""""""I have a System Saver IIgs. Now I have read that it isn't a very goodcooling fan system(not sure if that is true or not). I have also read thatone could do some modifications to it to make the saver more effective.My questions are. 1. What are these modifications? 2. Can they be done by anyone? 3. Will it "possibly" enable someone to push a transwarp GS a little faster?Thanks, Dain Neater - Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b3(A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""I just bought a better fan from Radio Shack, and replaced the original.You might want to replace the MOVs while you have it open. Finding the casescrews under the foam is probably the hardest part. (Hint: there are threeon each side, and maybe one each front and back, I don't remember forsure.)As for the transwarp, I dunno. :) Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 18 May 01 5:35:51 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.1 & SOAR v1.0b3 2001: A KFest Odyssey, July 25-29, 2001 - 68 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""Carl,Would you please post the Radio Shack part/product number?Thank you,Barry Rees(BREES, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 15)>>>>>"""""The Radio Shack part number may have changed since I bought mine many yearsago, but here's the info on the box:3" (80mm) Cooling Fan32CFM, 120VAC, 60HzCatalog Number: 273-242It's a perfect replacement fit for the Kensington System Saver fan, and itmoves a whole lot more air. - Tony(A2.TONY, Cat 17, Top 12, Msg 18)[EOA][SWG]A SUBWOOFER WITH THE IIgs?""""""""""""""""""""""""""Anyone ever plug a subwoofer into their GS? :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 18, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""As a matter of fact, yes, and it is currently still connected! I bought theAltec Lansing 133 set (I think that's the model #) on sale at Best Buy for$29.95, that includes two stereo speakers and a subwoofer that sits on thefloor. Sounds great! LumiTech Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.2 and SOAR! v1.0b5(LUMITECH, Cat 17, Top 18, Msg 2)[EOA][CPG]CANON S400 PRINTER WITH THE IIgs?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I just bought a new Canon S400 printer to replace my DeskJet 670C. It worksgreat from the Macs (even shares nicely across the network). I can print toit from the Newton 2100 using the generic Canon BJ driver, but I've had nosuccess at getting the GS to talk to it at the moment. The 670C wasconnected via a Grappler+ and used Harmony. I'd really like to retire theDeskJet, the cartridges are just too expensive. Anyone have any suggestionson getting the Canon to run on the GS?Kim HoweRTC Host(KIMHOWE, Cat 17, Top 25, Msg 26)>>>>>"""""Looking at the Canon web site, I see that the S400 provides for "StandardEmulation Canon Extended Mode."Standard? What standard? Too bad that term is not defined on the Canon website.However, seeing that the only OS supported on the PC side is Windows, Iguess the only way of knowing if it'll work on the IIGS is to try the Canondriver that is provided with Harmonie. After all, several other printerstandards - including Epsons and HP's PCL - are backwards compatible, soit's possible that Canon's is as well.If that doesn't do anything, I did see on Canon's site that at least one ofthe models that offers the "Standard Emulation Canon Extended Mode" alsosupports Epson LQ emulation, so you could try the Epson and EpsonLQ driversalso.Please let us know if those drivers do a thing with the Canon S400. Joe Kohn Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b3 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(JOKO, Cat 17, Top 25, Msg 27)[EOA][PAI]ProTERM A2 INFORMATION""""""""""""""""""""""Does Proterm A2 come on 5 1/4" floppies or 3.5" ones?Also, Since Proterm is a Prodos program I guess that means that you arelimited to a serial connection then? Is this the program that Ryan usesto connect his IIc+ to a linux Box with? Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 21, Top 2, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Dain Neater wrote:>> Is this the program that Ryan uses to connect his IIc+ to a linux Boxwith? <>>>>""""">> Does Proterm A2 come on 5 1/4" floppies or 3.5" ones? <> Also, Since Proterm is a Prodos program I guess that means that you arelimited to a serial connection then? Is this the program that Ryan usesto connect his IIc+ to a linux Box with? <>>>>"""""Yes, and it works quite well. The rendering speed is the only drawback tothis fine program, and that's not the fault of the program, but thehardware speed limitation.I have a 9/64 Zip installed on my IIgs. When using this program for complex"morphing", you need to start it when you go to bed. It might be done whenyou wake up. However, that is for severely complex morphing. Most morphingshould be complete in a few hours.I love the program, and it was worth the cost to me at the time. I haven'ttried it under Bernie, but I'm sure the added speed would be verynoticeable. Now that it's part of the Opus II collection, I wouldn'thesitate in purchasing Opus II just for this program alone. LumiTech Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.2 and SOAR! v1.0b5(LUMITECH, Cat 22, Top 40, Msg 4)[EOA][KGR]KANGAROO""""""""I've not been without Kangaroo since it came out. I use some part of itdaily. Heartily recommended. LumiTech Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.2 and SOAR! v1.0b5(LUMITECH, Cat 25, Top 3, Msg 2)[EOA][SCF]SuperConvert 4""""""""""""""This topic is for discussion of SuperConvert 4 a graphics conversionprogram from My eSource.Dain NeaterA2 Bulletin Board ManagerSyndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 25, Top 6, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""This program was formerly SHR Convert, written by Jason Harper, who isstill a sysop in the Macintosh forums on CompuServe. He wrote some otherneat programs, like FillMaze. :)-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 25, Top 6, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Ken,Does he by chance know what the status of his program is, what with thedemise of My eSource? Just curious. I for one hate to see a high qualityprogram go out that way....Dain NeaterA2 Bulletin Board ManagerSyndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 25, Top 6, Msg 4)>>>>>"""""Ian Brumby did the 4.0 update. and portions are (c) 7-hills software1992-1997. LZW compression used under license.(KWS, Cat 25, Top 6, Msg 6)[EOA][WPH]WHICH PRINTERS WORK WITH HARMONIE?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Question for Joe:Do you by chance have a compilation of all the printers that work withHarmonie? I think it would be an invaluable resource to have, especiallysince there are like a million different EPSONs and HPs anymore. I am justasking because someone was in chat asking if the 842C worked, and of courseI have no idea. Might be nice to have something similar to whatxlr8yourmac.com does with hard drives and upgrade cards. Basically, peoplegive a report if they work or not, and if there are any "issues".Thanks,Just curious. Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 72)>>>>>"""""When HP released a new model DeskJet once a year, it was real easy to stayon top of what was compatible with the IIGS, and what wasn't.It's not that easy anymore, as HP seems to release a new printer modelevery few weeks.That said, it's pretty easy to find out from HP's web site.Unfortunately, for me, it seems as if the needed info is no longeravailable in just plain old ASCII, and dealing with PDF files on my IIGSisn't so easy.That said, I was able to find some info on the 842c, just not all the infoneeded. I saw the keywords that they 842c worked with "MS-DOSApplications." So, that's one key that it works with the IIGS.The other key...the connection...I wasn't able to determine. I did see thatthe 842c has a USB port. In the technical specifications PDF file, itshould say whether there's also a parallel port. If there is, the 842cshould work great with Harmonie.But, again, I don't know if it does or doesn't have a parallel port.In short, the file to look at HP's site is always labeled as "technicalspecifications." If that file says that a DeskJet printer will work fromMS-DOS and it sports a Parallel port, then it's a IIGS printer.To this day, my guesstimate is that 90% of all DeskJets meet that criteria. Joe Kohn Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b3 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(JOKO, Cat 26, Top 2, Msg 73)[EOA][NWS]NEW WEB SITE FOR SPECTRUM INTERNET SUITE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I am very happy to announce that a new Web site is now dedicated forSpectrum Internet Suite. Use your favorite Browser and visithttp://sis.gwlink.netThe site has gone through an overhaul with an easier interface and willload much faster (Thanks, Tony, for the graphic compression).Geoff(GEOFF, Cat 26, Top 7, Msg 1)[EOA][MDI]MAKING DISK IMAGES""""""""""""""""""For posterity and for use with Bernie, I'd like to make disk images of allmy Softdisk GS floppies.What is the best program (Apple II or Mac) to do this, and what is the bestimage format to use?Thanks,-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 29, Top 5, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""On the Mac, provided you have a willing floppy drive, the best program isDiskCopy.On the IIgs, I'd use Imagemaker.Either way, I'd use DiskCopy 6 uncompressed.RyanHead Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 29, Top 5, Msg 13)[EOA][PRB]PROBLEM RUNNING Bernie 3.0""""""""""""""""""""""""""I just thought I'd post this, in case someone else notices it. Bernie 3.0runs like a champ under all circumstances on my Powercenter Pro. So do allearlier versions of Bernie.On my iMac, however, I noticed as soon as I installed 3.0 that it wasslower than dog-dirt (pardon the pun). I reinstalled 2.6, and had the sameproblem. I reinstalled 2.5.9 and it worked fine. Until I put a CD in thedrive or put a cartridge in my USB->SCSI EZ-135 drive, at which point 2.5.9also slowed to a crawl. The only way to get the speed back up was to poweroff the usb devices and re-boot the iMac.My next step is to try 3.0 again, without USB and/or CD in the drive andsee how it behaves.BTW, I do have Virtual Memory turned off on this 160MB RAM system, and Idid try turning off all the speed-gobbling options in Bernie, likeVectorSound.Has anyone else had a problem like this?Not using the USB devices I can live with, but to not use the CD-ROM isgoing to be a pain._________ | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 29, Top 21, Msg 61)>>>>>"""""Thomas,I had a funky problem with Bernie a while back. All of the sudden itseemed to be really slow. When running Bernie seemed to lurch like it hadpauses in it or something. It turned out to be that it happened only whenthe Control Strip was being displayed. Further checking revealed, IIRCthat it was a UMAX scanner extension in the control strip that was causingthis. I yanked it from the control strip and things seem to be working andhave been for a while.Is it possible that you have a UMAX USB scanner on there?Does it speed back up if you hide the control strip or shut the controlstrip down? Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 21, Msg 62)>>>>>"""""Bernie is susceptible to anything that polls the USB ports at regularintervals. I found the mouse was almost unusable till I removed the ControlStrip Module for my scanner. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 30 May 2001 - 56 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 29, Top 21, Msg 63)>>>>>"""""Thank you all for mentioning this. If you'll recall, I complained recentlyabout mouse freezes, etc., and asked a couple of question regarding 'SystemHeap' reports that Conflict Catcher was reporting.After reading here by several reporting the UMAX Scanner CSM and/or ControlStrip itself being the possible culprit, I just verified that this seems tobe the root my occasional problem.Thanks! Now I'll run Bernie also, as it was a slow, old dog, on my iMac!My 8mHz IIgs was faster until I disabled the Control Strip! LumiTech Wed, 30 May 01 @ 0:28:33 Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.2 and SOAR! v1.0b5(LUMITECH, Cat 29, Top 21, Msg 64)[EOA][NVS]WHAT WOULD YOU WANT IN A NEW VERSION OF Sweet16?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Someday I swear I'll have time to work on Sweet16 some more. Been a tadbusy. If you could pick a single thing you'd want done to a new version,what would it be?Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 4)>>>>>"""""Sheppy,I really like Sweet 16, one thing that I would truly like is to be able toshare the BeOS machines' internet connection..(Pipe dream I know)I guess other than that, I would really love to see this done in Cocoa onMac OS X :) (Not that is most likely a foolish Pipe dream)I could go on, but you wanted a "single thing" and I am already on two.Thanks for the hard work. Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager A2 Community Syndicomm(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 5)>>>>>"""""I know this suggestion won't be popular with some but I'd like to see itported to Win32.Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 6)>>>>>"""""I asked Henrik about doing a Win32 port and was told he doesn't wantSweet16 ported to Windows.>> I really like Sweet 16, one thing that I would truly like is to be ableto share the BeOS machines' internet connection..(Pipe dream I know) <>>>>"""""Sheppy wrote:>> I asked Henrik about doing a Win32 port and was told he doesn't wantSweet16 ported to Windows. <>>>>"""""There's a lot of little things I'd like.o "Mount CDRom" menu item (similar to the mount 3.5" menu item)[I know there's a /dev/floppy device under beos, but no /dev/cdrom]o BeOS/IIgs clipboard sharing ala Bernieo More accurate mouse tracking for programs that read the mouse directly[I know the problem is intel-platform related]o Easier, more direct sharing of files back & forth (like a magic folder ordrag & drop files)o Integrated debugger (like gsbug on steroids). Or maybe support Orca copdebugging for high-level languages...Hmm... I guess those aren't little :)(KWS, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 12)[EOA][CMR]CONTROL MANAGER"""""""""""""""Sheppy,I'm using this function in my Hammurabi project, (thanks, btw) in thefollowing manner:I have a function for each of the stat texts, which fills a string withsprintf and then calls your function. I would call these functions anytime any of the underlying data would change.But I was having problems with redraws: Any time something covered up oneof the static texts, be it an NDA, or one of my own alert boxes, and thenwent away, the area of the static text that had been covered turned to mush(inverse ???s and other garbage text).I finally realized that the alert windows were invalidating their ownrects, and the area under them was being re-drawn, but there was no way totell what should go into the text boxes, and thus the garbage text.What I did that _seems_ to solve the problem is to add a call to each of myfunctions to the end of the DrawContents routine.Was that the right thing to do?Related questions:MikeW, in his toolbox courses, refers a lot to "your update routine." Isthat in fact the "DrawContents" routine found in all his program listings?If not, where is it/ where does it go?Assuming that putting my calls to your function in the DrawContents routinewas the correct way to go, should I remove the other calls because they areredundant? Perhaps replacing them with a InvalOneCtlByID call?Thanks for your help._________ | homas(TCOMPTER, Cat 56, Top 16, Msg 6)>>>>>""""">> What I did that _seems_ to solve the problem is to add a call to each ofmy functions to the end of the DrawContents routine. <> MikeW, in his toolbox courses, refers a lot to "your update routine."Is that in fact the "DrawContents" routine found in all his programlistings? <> Assuming that putting my calls to your function in the DrawContentsroutine was the correct way to go, should I remove the other calls becausethey are redundant? Perhaps replacing them with a InvalOneCtlByID call? <>>>>"""""Apparently, this week, Staples is offering CD-Rs manufactured by TaiyoYudon for $14.95 for a spindle of 50, and that comes with a $5 rebate.The actual brand name is Fuji, and these are the 80 minute variety.I'm stocking up. Joe Kohn Delivered by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b3 http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(JOKO, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Sheppy,I've been posting some good CD-R deals in Cat 2. Also, yesterdayDealmac.com had on their web page that Circuit City was selling somegeneric CD-R spindles for $15, with a $15 mail-in rebate.-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 3)[EOA][ESW]EXTRA SPACE ON A CD WASTEFUL?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""OK -- here's a trickier question. Not entirely Apple II related, butkinda.You have a small Macintosh product that would easily fit on even asingle-sided 3.5" double-density floppy disk. But nowadays, Macs aren'tbuilt with floppy drives.How do I convince myself that I'm not a wasteful jerk when I have to burnthis little thing onto CD for distribution? :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 5)>>>>>"""""If it's a Macintosh product, just provide it via download. If you trulywant to 'record' it to media, justify the left over "space" by realizingthat CD-ROMs are really inexpensive right now. Or, you could just includeother shareware/freeware on the CD too, and/or trial versions of your othersoftware. LumiTech Cruising the 'railway' provided by: Spectrum v2.5.2 and SOAR! v1.0b5(LUMITECH, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 6)>>>>>"""""Sheppy,Include some multimedia freebies on the CD-ROM. I have an extensivecollection of free .MOVs (movie trailers, spoofs, TROOPS, etc.) and .MP3sthat I regularly archive to CD-ROM format. Finding such filler would beperfect for your project. :)-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 8)>>>>>"""""Include the whole manual in .pdf, .rtf, .html, .doc, and plain text formatson the CD :)Seriously, I'm not sure where the idea of waste would be, except in unusedCD space. CDRs now are cheaper per piece (and infinitely cheaper per meg)than floppies, so. . .RyanChief Sysop Pro Tem, Palm OS, Page 590(A2.RYAN, Cat 59, Top 9, Msg 10)[EOA][BCA]BURNING CD-ROMs FOR USE WITH Apple II"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Wow... a topic just for this. :)I'm going to be burning some Apple II software to CD-ROM for sale anddistribution. This will be done on a G3 Macintosh running OS 8.1 withToast v4.1.3, which creates HFS (not HFS+) volumes. Is there anything Ineed to be aware of when making CD-ROMs to be used on an Apple II?Anything I need to watch for to preserve Apple II filetypes, ensure Macresource forks don't get put on there, etc.?Thanks,-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 59, Top 10, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""Nope. Burn and go :)RyanChief Sysop Pro Tem, Palm OS, Page 590(A2.RYAN, Cat 59, Top 10, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Be careful that all the filenames conform to ProDOS standards. It is easyto slip in an HFS compatible name, and think because the IIgs will see ithappily from the Finder, that all is well.Then when they try to drag the folder or file off, the user has to renamethem all... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 26 May 2001 - 60 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 59, Top 10, Msg 3)[EOA][TCC]THE CoPilot CHALLENGE - TIME RUNNING OUT""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I should mention that anyone working on the CoPilot challenge has only afew weeks left to get their rebate on KFest from Syndicomm. :)I should also mention that serious OLR authors should contact me aboutgetting access to our private OLR testing and discussion forum.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 50, Top 10, Msg 21)[EOA][ATK]ACCELERATOR TALK""""""""""""""""I'll open up the topic and the category with a question.Now here me out here before anyone goes crazy.With the speed that we can currently emulate the 65816 on a x386 or PowerPCisn't is conceivable that we could make an interface device for the gs cpuport which could use a x386, ppc, or even another processor to emulate the65816.Realistically I don't know how difficult this is as I failed out of collegelong before I got into any of my electronics classes.Some questions that need to be answered:1) Did/does the Transwarp or Zip use anything other than power from the slot it sits in?2) How best to interface to a PC. PCI or ISA card with a cable running out the back would probably run into some noise issues.3) Is this even an acceptable course of action or should we work on duplicating the ZipGSX or Transwarp GS instead. (Maybe getting the plans from one of the two companies, assuming that they still exist.)4) Am I the only one even remotely interested in creating a new accelerator for the gs (perhaps because I keep getting overbid on ebay)If I'm totally off base, let me know, but remember I have a fragile ego :)Wayne(WAYNER, Cat 61, Top 5, Msg 1)>>>>>""""">> With the speed that we can currently emulate the 65816 on a x386 orPowerPC isn't is conceivable that we could make an interface device for thegs cpu port which could use a x386, ppc, or even another processor toemulate the 65816. <>>>>"""""You're not the first person to think of creating a coprocessor card thatwould emulate an '816. But so far, no one has done it (or announced it hasbeen done). I'd pay a reasonable amount of money for one.I think a few years ago, the company formerly known as Zip said it wouldrequire around $10,000 in fixed startup costs to manufacture a new batch ofthem.(KWS, Cat 61, Top 5, Msg 3)>>>>>""""">> Am I the only one even remotely interested in creating a new acceleratorfor the gs (perhaps because I keep getting overbid on ebay) <>>>>""""">> Am I the only one even remotely interested in creating a new acceleratorfor the gs (perhaps because I keep getting overbid on ebay) <[IWK]IMPRESSED WITH KEGGS32""""""""""""""""""""""All I can say is: _WOW!!_If your a PC user, and found yourself envious of emulators like Bernie ][The Rescue for the Mac, you definitely should have a look at the newestrelease of KEGS32 for Windows!http://www.geocities.com/akilgard/kegs32/It now offers the beginnings of a GUI interface, and as such, mountingdisks is simple and quick. Even better is it now offers joystick supportand a full-screen mode, not too mention improved sound (no skipping asbefore) and functioning mouse support.Though what makes it really shine is just how *well* it works--sound,music, animation, software compatibility--it's all nearly PERFECT! I'vebeen a using a real Apple IIgs's for over 14 years now, and I can tell you,this comes extremely close to the real thing! I tried out several games,including: Xenocide, Rastan, The Immortal, Zany Golf, Alien Mind...they alllook, play and sound SO much like the originals it's almost erie!The feeling is almost indescribable playing Rastan, Xenocide or Alien Mindon my television set (through TV-output) using my PC gamepad.And it even runs European demos: Things from the FTA, ACS and Ninjaforcerun virtually flawless! I wonder if Bernie and Sweet 16 come this close...:)Again, I'm just blown away! Finally, respectable Apple IIGS emulation hascome to the PC!Mitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3453.1, Delphi A2 web side)[EOA][FAG]FEELINGS ON THE APPLE IIgs""""""""""""""""""""""""""Hmm..My personal feelings on the IIGS or any other Apple vintage computer...I feel they are slowly dying as the days go by. I just started collectingand using an Apple IIGS, which I bought a 8 months ago, although it isalmost fully loaded it is still missing a few items I'd like to have forit.. Example, Accelerator card. It is very discouraging to have mosteverything for it, then be stuck with needing items that are HARD to find.Example: SuperDrive card. Not being able to find items for the IIGS willdiscourage many a new comer.You can not rely on "auction" sites either any more. eBay's listing ofApple IIGS items have dropped drastically, having only about 45 itemslisted now, with most being the system itself. I have not seen anaccelerator card in over 4 months and no SCSI card in over 3 weeks. Thenyou take your chances when you do bid on items. Games for the Apple IIGScan go as up to at least $36.00 which is about $10.00 short on buying a"NEW" computer game for an IBM or iMac. So the demand for some of the gamesare "STRONG" and can get highly priced.Thrift shops are another possibility, but the one we have here, does nothave much and what they had last week is gone. So I'm sure it varies foreach location.Finding help for the Apple II line is semi easy. When I first was thinkingof getting a IIGS, I did a search on infoseek.com (now go.com) and foundDelphi. I joined and went into the chat room and met many Apple users,(Sheppy, Kim, Loren, TonyD) Remember all those stupid first timer questionsI had? But I was talked into getting one. But now with the CHAT gone, andsometimes unanswered questions here at Delphi, I have to wonder if many ofthe "old" users are still using theirs. There are a few other places to getthe online help, but I prefer "LIVE" chats to where you can mostly getquestion answered right away and I have had several within the last week,(Thanks Mitch!).Finding NEW hardware or software, well.. you can most likely forget thatand it's really sad, especially when some schools are just now retiringtheir IIGS. We can thank KIM for his latest additions, which I thoughtYAHTZEE was great! On the hardware side, I have found nothing new. Oh howit would be great to make a SCSI and accelerator card think of the "HIGH"demand they are in now and what you could charge (although I hope it wouldbe reasonable). Items like that "WERE" selling on eBay as high as $250.00.The last SCSI (Apple high speed) only went for $112.00, so it makes mewonder if the demand now is ending for the IIGS and it's items?I hate to see the vintage Apple's go, especially the IIGS. I still enjoythe gaming on it but I have totaled everything that I bought and I couldhave walked out with a new iMac at least if not a PowerMac.Enough of my long windedness.LONG LIVE THE APPLE IIGS!Steve(APPLEIIGSFAN, 982.147, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> But now with the CHAT gone, and sometimes unanswered questions here atDelphi, I have to wonder if many of the "old" users are still using theirs.There are a few other places to get the online help, but I prefer "LIVE"chats to where you can mostly get question answered right away and I havehad several within the last week, (Thanks Mitch!). <> On the hardware side, I have found nothing new. <> Finding NEW hardware or software, well... <The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][KFT]------------------------------ KFest 2001 |-----------------------------------[KFR]K FEST REGISTRATION INFORMATION"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""KFest 2001 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends...""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Help usher in the new millennium with the Apple II!!When: July 25-29, 2001Where: Avila College, Kansas City, MissouriThe most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2001, is on ourcalendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place onyour calendar, too.Better yet, KFest is back with the same great prices as last year!Check these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening(dinner) on July 25, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 29.(Saturday evening dinner not included. 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Just send an email message to:kfest-help@kfest.org... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internete-mail chat:To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to:.Place the following text in the BODY of the message: subscribe kfestYou will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, youwill have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, andthen you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.Sponsored by:InTrec Software, Inc.3035 E Topaz CirclePhoenix, AZ 85028-4423Voc:602/992-1345Fax:602/992-0232(KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 77)[EOA][GRK]GETTING READY FOR K-Fest""""""""""""""""""""""""Just a tad over a month to go. Everyone ready? :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 88)>>>>>"""""Yes...My signature line shows I have been counting for a long time now! Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 12 Jun 2001 - 43 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b3 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 5, Top 3, Msg 89)>>>>>"""""> Everyone ready? >>>>"""""> Not even close >>>>"""""> Everyone ready? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do notnecessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Delphi OnlineServices, Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages arereprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permissionfrom the individual authors. 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