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An Onipa'a Software Production        Vol. 3, No. 8 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Mail, Editor..............................lyle837@FoxValley.net ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                            TABLE OF CONTENTS                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                             August 15, 2000HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER     Come, Sit Awhile / Family Reunion--------------------------------[OPN]DISTRIBUTION OF _The Lamp!_     _The Lamp!_ HOME PAGE UPDATED------------------------------------[LHP]THE PUBLISHER STRIKES BACK     It's Deja Vu All Over Again--------------------------------------[PSB]A2 DISTILLATIONS     Netbooting a IIgs------------------------------------------------[NBG]     Silvern Castle Help----------------------------------------------[SCH]     Silvern Castle Clues---------------------------------------------[SCC]     Silvern Castle v5.0 Available in Data Base-----------------------[SCU]     Hard Drive for Apple II+ ----------------------------------------[AHD]     Juiced.GS, Vol 5, Issue 2----------------------------------------[JGS]     Which Brands of CD-ROM Drives for IIgs?--------------------------[WBC]     To Ensure A2 Software is Not Lost...-----------------------------[TES]     Glen Bredon Dies-------------------------------------------------[GBD]     Arachnid Preview 2 Available-------------------------------------[APA]     The Case of the Forgotten Passwords------------------------------[CFP]     Lost Classics Moves Right Along----------------------------------[LCM]     New Software for the IIgs - Announced at KFest - Ready-----------[NSA]     KFest Live Cam Broadcast Praised---------------------------------[LCP]     The French Connection CD-ROMS------------------------------------[TFC]     The Ultimate Eamon Collection on CD-ROM--------------------------[TUE]     No Slot Clock----------------------------------------------------[NSC]     Delphi Will Drop Support for Text Based Access-------------------[DDS]     A2Central.com and Syndicomm to Build New Apple II Home Online----[BNH]A2P DISTILLATIONS     Marinetti Open Source Project------------------------------------[MOS]     Merlin-16+ 4.12 Z.08---------------------------------------------[MLN]     ZBASIC Becomes Freeware - Uploaded to A2P------------------------[ZBC]KFEST 2000     First-Timer's Notes----------------------------------------------[FTN]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]-------------------------------         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>                              Come, Sit Awhile                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Come, sit awhile with me on the patio High Above The Rock River.  Itis dusk... a gentle breeze is blowing... the city lights are coming on... alone boat moves quietly upstream.  What a nice time and place to savor yourKFest experience.                                [*] [*] [*]                               Family Reunion                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Everywhere at KFest there is this feeling of kinship...  greeting oldfriends, introductions to new friends, looking at the equipment peoplebrought, sharing information, helping others.  Reminds you of a familyreunion.     It was a real pleasure to meet Ryan, Publisher of The Lamp, in person.That man has boundless energy.  He is a great guy to work for.                                [*] [*] [*]                                Plan Ahead                                ~~~~~~~~~~     KFest 2001 is set for July 25-29 (early arrivals on July 24) at AvilaCollege.  Put it on your calender and start saving your money.  You will beglad you did.[EOA][LHP]------------------------------       DISTRIBUTION OF _The Lamp!_ |     _The Lamp!_ HOME PAGE UPDATED |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson, Editor, _The Lamp!_ , <lyle@FoxValley.net>As of August 13, 2000, _The Lamp!_ Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.nethas been updated and now includes all issues of _The Lamp!_ that have beenpublished to that date.Plans are to add each issue to the home page as it is published.All issues of _The Lamp!_ are also available for download from theDelphi Custom 11 Database... From the text side "go gr cus 11 for"Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>Editor, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi[EOA][PSB]------------------------------        THE PUBLISHER STRIKES BACK |-----------------------------------From The Publisher""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                [thelamp@sheppyware.net]                        IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     After months out of action from working on _The Lamp!_, my project iscomplete and I'm back.     My "project" was the _Time in a Bottle_ two disc CD collection ofApple II software, based on the Syndicomm libraries based on Genie,released at the end of my keynote speech at KansasFest 2000.  Blatant Plug:this product will be available exclusively through _Juiced.GS_, as will newversions of _The Compleat Lamp!_.     In any case, as I recover from weeks travelling the North Americancontinent, meeting old friends and making new ones, and, oh yeah, fromKansasFest 2000, it's back to what's important: the Apple II and _TheLamp!_.  One of the highlights of my trip to Avila this summer was thechance to meet Lyle in person.  That reaffirmed what I already knew: I leftyou all in good hands.  We talked business, talked computers, but mostlyjust had fun.  Which is what the Apple II is all about these days.     Just like it was back in 1977.     In addition to those new products, I'm also going to start putting outa short monthly newsletter called _A2 News and Notes_.  Expect it aroundthe beginning of each month.  Unlike _The Lamp!_, reproduction permissionis quite liberal (well, maybe more like _The Lamp!_--I'll give Lyle theopportunity to fill you in) so you newsletter editors can stop looking fora few less news items each month.     Finally, concluding with our "What's old is new and what's new is old"theme, I'd like to let you all in on a secret: A2Central.com, one of thenewest World Wide Web sites for the Apple II, is going to be one of thehottest spots on the Internet in the coming months.  I plan to devote moreand more of our energies here at _The Lamp!_ toward making it a prime moverand shaker in the Apple II online community.     Remember: have fun.Ryanthelamp@sheppyware.net[EOF]ASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[NBG]NETBOOTING A IIgs"""""""""""""""""I have recently pulled my old Apple IIgs out of the closet and triedsetting it up. It has no hard drive, and I don't wish to go out andpurchase one right now, so I thought that I would set up the computer toboot off a network, as I recall reading in the IIgs manual that this couldbe done.However, as far as I can tell, doing this requires AppleShare 3.0, which isneither free nor for sale. My question is this: is there an alternative toAppleShare 3.0 which will allow me to boot a ROM 03 IIgs over a AppleTalk,or, if there is not, is there any way to acquire a copy of AppleShare 3.0?(NCHAIMOV, 31837, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> is there an alternative to AppleShare 3.0 which will allow me to boot> a ROM 03 IIgs over a AppleTalk,Nope.> or, if there is not, is there any way to acquire a copy of AppleShare> 3.0?On the used market. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution(RSUENAGA, 31875, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Now, I've been in a similar state when my GS hard drive died. I thought ofa way to use a Mac hard disk. Details are currently vague, but it involvedusing the System 6.0.1 installer to create a boot 3.5" floppy that hadAppleTalk support.  I booted the floppy and connected to the Mac throughthe localtalk network.  I could then run programs on the Mac hard drive. Ihad to do very careful pruning, though to fit everything on, so I wanted togo one extra step: deleting the Finder from the boot disk and running aprogram launcher that was on the Mac.  Problems: the Finder won't workoutside of its usual location in the System Folder.  Wings works, but onlywith ProDOS volumes. (not ideal).  JumpStart, which I believe is nowfreeware, worked like a charm. I set that as my startup program and I hadthe poor man's AppleShare.As I say, this was some time ago and the details of what settings I used onthe Mac and GS are vague.  I hope that they give enough clues to let youfigure out the steps.  Take notes, and let me know how it works out :-)-Gareth(GARETH, 31902, GO COM A2)[EOA][SCH]SILVERN CASTLE HELP"""""""""""""""""""> ...where all can you get Silvern Castle?To the best of my knowledge, SC can be downloaded from Delphi and Trenco(www.gno.org). It's also available from Juiced.GS as part of Max Jones'"Friends for Life" CD as well as some back disk issues of his magazine"Juiced.GS".Jeff Fink(ROFFERSD, 32130, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> The last Silvern Castle version I used was v3.0. What are the upgrade> procedures to get up to v5.0?All you have to do is get yourself a copy, the install procedures areincluded in the READ.ME.FIRST file in the upgrade package.Jeff Fink(ROFFERSD, 32131, GO COM A2)[EOA][SCC]SILVERN CASTLE CLUES""""""""""""""""""""I've got mine upgraded. It gives you options to undo some of the"complications"like using gold, silver, and copper coins (or just goldcoins), or using the encumbrance feature or not. I turned off coins butleft encumbrances. That's nice, I thing it doesn't detract from the game.But I still need to find a password for the moat area. I have gottenthrough the bubbles. I see no clues really, obvious or otherwise. This partof games I am a dunce at. I never even bothered to try Myst, though myfamily bought it.The game also seems speeded up. Is that true? I seems to run smoother andfaster. Otherwise I see no obvious differences.Is anyone else playing and has anyone gotten beyond the coded door?BTW: I used the upgrade found on the Juiced-GS disks.Bruce(BRB, 32473, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""">But I still need to find a password for the moat area.Sorry this took so long, I was away this past week...Hi Bruce!I would have e-mailed this to you, but perhaps others would also like thishelp getting past the new extended scenario stuff added in v3.0 and later.NOTE: This gives away vital clues!!! If you want to solve Silvern Castle onyour own STOP NOW!!!To solve the extended scenario so you can play the second scenario you mustget into the moat (note: you must teleport to any illegal location andyou'll be dropped in the moat-try 11 levels down).When you get past the bubbles you come up to a metal gate, if you haveregistered your copy you'll be able to get through into an underwatercavern.Note: If you have registered make sure your serial number shows up at thetitle page-if not reenter your registration password and serial number.Once in the underwater cavern it leads to a door with needs the new applekey to open. Note: To get the key, on level 10 behind the locked doorneeding the silver key (there's only one-it's the door that used to lead tothe back way to Drachma's Lab) you'll get the skeleton key from the MAChigh-priest. Use the skeleton key to open any of the doors on level 1-10that couldn't be opened before (hint: there's one just a little north ofthe MAC priest). Behind any skeleton key door will get you a li-powercrystal. Take the crystal to the head guru on level 1 and you'll get theapple key plus some hints about the moat.Back to the moat. Using the apple key you enter an airlock. To the north ofthe airlock is a door with an access device requiring a password. Note:There is a secret door-that does not show up using the light spell. Behindthe secret door(s) is part of the password. This should be enough clues toget past the access device.The stuff past the access device should be easier. Ultimately it leads toDrachma's Lab-be sure to do this to get hints on the second scenario. Also,remember secret doors don't show up in the moat and watch-out forteleporters (must should be visible as a white square in v5.0 andlater-before this they don't).What about that blue archway? Hint: Defeat Drachma.Hope this helps,Jeff Fink(ROFFERSD, 32531, GO COM A2)[EOA][SCU]SILVERN CASTLE v5.0 AVAILABLE IN DATA BASE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: SCUPD50.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:45   By: HKATZ Size: 209536Silvern Castle, the popular role-playing game for 8-bit Apple II computersreleased only a year ago at KFest '99, has been updated to version 5.0! Newin this version is the ability to turn off encumbrance and to restrictcoinage to just gold pieces. Also, clerics can now identify items likedruids, back-row characters have a lower chance of being hit during meleecombat, NPCs may exchange information if they surrender, spellbooks andholy symbols can be dropped, and there's been some fine-tuning to themonsters. A new expert scenario, "Time Master", is included, but can onlybe played by registered owners.(TONYW1, 32422, GO COM A2)[EOA][AHD]HARD DRIVE FOR APPLE II+""""""""""""""""""""""""Hello,Is it possible to connect a Hard Disk to an Apple II+ ?I probably need a SCSI or IDE card for the Apple Slot, does anyone have anelectric scheme for building this on your own?Reading through this Forum I discovered a few people apparently using HDson Apple IIe with Prodos. I never thought about it. Do I have to enhancethe II+ in order to get Prodos working or would a little programmingenhancement in DOS 3.3 help seeing the Hard Disk ?Any help would be appreciated,Claudio(CRISTINZ, 31870, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""I'm running a hard drive on a II+. I'm using an Apple Rev C SCSI cardconnected to a 40mb hard drive. I use a program called Sneeze as a programlauncher. Pretty well all the programs on the hard drive are ProDOS 8programs.  The only enhancement you need for ProDOS is to have 64k ofmemory. With 64k and a 6502 you can use any version of ProDOS up to andincluding 1.9. If you replace the 6502 with a 65C02 or are using anaccelerator such as a ZipChip or TransWarp which include a 65C02 the youcan use the last version of ProDOS 2.0.3.  DOS 3.3 is basicallyincompatible with drives over 400k. Some DOS 3.3 stuff can be transferredover to ProDOS and some can't. I generally leave the DOS 3.3 stuff onfloppies and boot them if I want to run DOS 3.3 stuff. However a hard driveis so much faster and more convenient that it isn't long before you onlywant to run stuff off the hard driveWayne(WAYNEJ, 31883, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> Is it possible to connect a Hard Disk to an Apple II+ ?Yep. You should just know that in terms of a SCSI setup, your options arelimited to the original Apple ("Revision C") SCSI card, or similar, such asthe older CMS SCSI card.If your going to use ProDOS (which isn't a bad idea considering DOS 3.3 islimited to 400K per partition and no subdirectories/folders) you'll need atleast 64K RAM installed--that is all the RAM sockets populated on the IIPlus board (48K total) in addition to a 16K Language card or better pluggedinto slot-0.There may be other hard drive setups available for the II Plus, though I'muncertain if things like the Focus HD or Vulcan are compatible (most peopleadding hard drives do so to an Enhanced IIe or better).Mitchell Spector {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}(SPECTOR1, 31890, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""I once had a 40MB Applied Engineering IIe/II+ Vulcan hard drive that wouldwork with any IIe or a II+. I used mine on a IIe. If I remember correctly,the only change (according to the manual) that had to be made for II+operation was a DIP switch change on the controller card. The II+ memoryrequirement of 64k that you mentioned, of course, would still apply.Barry Rees(BARRY_REES, 31903, GO COM A2)[EOA][JGS]Juiced.GS, VOL 5, ISSUE 2"""""""""""""""""""""""""Announcing ...===== Juiced.GS, Volume 5, Issue 2 =====The July 2000 edition of Juiced.GS, the Apple II world's premierIIGS-specific magazine, was delivered to 205 subscribers in 45 states andnumerous points around the globe.Here's what you'll find in this 24-page issue:============FEATURESCover Story: Turn your PC into a IIGS -- An in-depth tutorial on puttingBeOS and Sweet16 to work ... Eric Shepherd makes the task of installingBeOS and the Sweet16 emulator on your PC far less daunting.The Virtual GS: An emulator wish list ... Ryan Suenaga, our emulationmaster, dreams big dreams -- and reveals his wishes -- for future featuresin our favorite IIGS emulators.COLUMNSMy Home Page: Saved by SAM (and EarthLink) ... The editor explains how thedreaded loss of shell access on his ISP was made less traumatic by thepresence of the new IIGS Internet e-mailer and discovery of a newMarinetti-savvy ISP.II Be Named Later: Our columnist, Ryan Suenaga, looks ahead in greatanticipation to another grand Apple II festival -- KFest 2000.Desktop Publishing: Dave Bennett explains how good photos, used well inyour DTP projects, have a great impact on attracting and holding readers.Telecommunications: Tony Ward takes on the tough and always controversialsubject of copyrights in the digital age.DEPARTMENTSShareware Spotlight: Geoff releases a new program that allows Spectrumusers to create PDF files; Beagle Bros releases an old program that makescomputer drawing fun again; and Howard Katz brings readers up to date onthe latest software reclassification efforts.DumplinGS: A2Central.com emerges as a compelling new online resource forApple II enthusiasts; Ultima I is back on the market; the Juiced.GS'Friends for Life' CD-ROM is now shipping; and Y ][ KFest is but a few daysaway. And believe it or not, that's not all!Letters from the Land of ROM: Readers ask questions, get answers, makesuggestions, and otherwise give us a piece of their mind. We have almostthree pages worth of letters from readers in this issue.ADVERTISEMENTSKFest registration; Juiced.GS CD-ROM; a cool card-ID contest from Tony Diazat apple2.org; and a Sheppyware surprise!============Juiced.GS is a quarterly, printed publication available by subscriptiononly.A subscription for 2000 is $16 in the U.S., Canada or Mexico, $22elsewhere.To subscribe, send a check or money order in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882Make checks or money orders payable to Max Jones.To subscribe by credit card, visit the Juiced.GS online order processingsite on the World Wide Web. The URL is: http://order.kagi.com/?2ZMComplete sets of 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999 issues are available for $14each ($20 overseas). If you would like to purchase only a specific singlecopy (or copies) of back issues, they are available for $4 each ($6overseas). An index and brief description of articles published in'96/'97'98/'99 are available on the Juiced.GS web site. See URL below.Apple II Forever! Max Jones Juiced.GS Delphi: JuicedGS -- Internet: juicedgs@delphi.com World Wide Web: http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs(JUICEDGS, 32160, GO COM A2)[EOA][WBC]WHICH BRANDS OF CD-ROM DRIVES FOR IIgs?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Does anyone know which CD-ROM brands (other than Apple) will work with theApple ][GS? I see several at the GoodWill store and I am reluctant to getjust anyone's brand other that Apple.Also the Apple High Speed SCSI will work with CD-ROM's but is the "HIGHSPEED" SCSI card the only one to use?Mack(MACKDUNCAN, 32112, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Most should work (although I'm sure there are a couple of examples wherethat's not the case) so long as you have a SCSI controller installed andset things up properly. From my experience there are two major "what if"'sinvolved, their being: 1) Will the brand/model in question read all typesof CD-R's (there are many burnable CD's with a color coating the laser hastrouble seeing on some drives) and 2) Will you be able to play back audioCD's through the IIgs?Finding out #1 is mostly trial and error, although if your only going to bereading factory pressed (silver colored) CD's this isn't an issue. As for#2 if you have an Apple SCSI card you _will_ need an Apple brand CD-ROMdrive (i.e. CDSC, CDSC+, CD-150) for audio. The RamFAST has drivers forplaying audio CDs on Apple and non-Apple drives, but they can be ratherflaky. I was able to get a Chinon 1X to play audio with the RamFAST, but itfroze up control of the computer until I ejected the disc.> Also the Apple High Speed SCSI will work with CD-ROM's but is the> "HIGH SPEED" SCSI card the only one to use?I believe the Apple revision 'C' card will work, but you'd have to rebootwhenever changing discs (the card isn't very friendly with removabledevices if I recall correctly). The RamFAST will certainly work, but whenit comes to playing audio CDs things can get iffy. I've heard many reportsabout the NEC 2x working beautifully with audio discs though.I'm not sure if cards such as the CMS, Ohio Kache SCSI or Cirtech work well(if at all) with CD-ROMs and other removable devices. My guess is if theydo, it would be similar in function to the Apple Rev.C (I generally don'trecommend anything but the Apple or RamFAST when it comes to SCSI boards,although some people have gotten good use out of the others).Mitchell Spector {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}(SPECTOR1, 32119, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""I'm using a Ramfast on both my IIgs & IIe with NEC CD-ROMs. I tried acouple of other brands (wish I could remember the names) and while both ofthem seemed to work fine as far as reading files and playing music the onething they wouldn't do was boot off any of the ProDOS CDs I'd burned. Not abig deal but something I wanted.Wayne(WAYNEJ, 32121, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""My own experiences with Rev.C and Sony CDU 541 is that for the system toboot from HD residing on the same SCSI bus, CDROM reader must have areadable media in it. (My guess is that Rev.C doesn't make an exception forremovable media device when checking reply for Test Unit Ready command,which will always return Check Condition if media is not present.)Otherwise, it appears to work just fine, most of the time.(DCHIU, 32122, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Well, I have a Toshiba 40x (yes, 40) CDROM drive hooked up to my tower GSwith a RamFAST. It's fast, trust me. :)Yeah, it's overkill, but it's way better than the NEC 2x I had in therepreviously. Other than the initial spin-up time, I don't notice adifference between a CD or the hard drive. There's no way I could say thatabout the NEC. I also have a Toshiba 1x drive in the same GS for CD audio(the NEC worked great for audio, too), and I don't think I'll ever putanother data CD in it. :)Later,- Aaron(APULVER, 32168, GO COM A2)<<<<<"""""Hey Aaron,Can you use the Music CD in one drive as you use the data in another drive?Do I understand you correctly?Mack(MACKDUNCAN, 32169, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Mack,Yes. Or two data CDs, or two music CDs... Or three.I used to have two Toshiba 1x drives and one NEC 2x drive hooked up and Icould use them all at the same time. That's with a RamFAST, though. I nevertried it with an Apple SCSI card.Later,- Aaron(APULVER, 32193, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""From the land of "make do":I have 2 GS(s) with SCSI:1 is an Apple Rev "C" card. the other is a last revision (d?) of the CMS.I have several SCSI CDROM drives thanks to Goodwill.The Rev C works with: All Apple ones I have tried, loves the 300, Toshiba,Sony, a couple that I have not popped out of their case so I have not clueone what they are.Gotchas: You MUST have a CD in the drive to boot otherwise the SCSI chainstops right there. Changing disks without rebooting is possible but like aMac, trash the current one before ejecting. The drive I have on there is acaddy type on a manual load/eject (yeah I know...weird). Music does NOTwork on any drive tested.  The CMS works with: Not One Blessed CD Drive!but it really crawls fast on the 3 hard drives it supports!-Bart(PILGRIMER, 32239, GO COM A2)[EOA][TES]TO ENSURE A2 SOFTWARE IS NOT LOST...""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I don't want to get involved in this debate, seeing how both sides rarelychange their stance on the issue, but some of the points brought uphighlight a growing problem here.Software titles written for the Apple II numbered in the tens of thousands,at one point long ago Apple claimed it was the largest collection ofsoftware of any computer platform in the world. Software is the *MOST*important of factors when considering a computer's strength, it is the lifeblood of that machine. Features and processing power don't mean a thing ifthere's no software to make that collection of chips do anything (manygreat computers fell wayside because they lacked software, the IIGSsuffered for this reason). One of the reasons the Apple II was, and alwayshas been, popular, is because of it's vast amount of software available.So where are we today? Are there ANY companies still printing copies ofthose tens of thousands of software packages? _No._ So we're left withcopies that haven't been sold yet. Are there any stores or vendors sellingthose out-of-print titles, the few that remain? _No._ Sure, thereadmittedly are a few seeded businesses here and there, but these sourcesare far and few between and depleting what stock they have left. Quiteoften these sources don't have what your looking for, which means you'llhave to find the titles used at garage sales, thrift shops or onlineauctions and sales. Quite often you'll turn up empty handed looking for aparticular title.Take AppleWorks, hands down one of the most popular Apple II softwarepackages, yet it's not available any longer--anywhere. The problem I see issomeone comes along and purchases a used Apple II, looks for particularsoftware, can't find it in stores, through vendors nor used through onlinesales either. That person is then forced to give up on the Apple II andmove on to another platform because they can't find software. It's likewe're saying "There's no more room for new users--the software you wantisn't available anymore and it's just too bad you'll need it to operate themachine." Sometimes people ask me where they can get games for their AppleIIe or IIgs. I direct them to Shareware Solutions II, which sells 3 or 4commercial games, but beyond that I have to them they'll have to look forused copies online. That's basically one step away from saying "Tough, youshould have bought games a decade ago, and if you can't find them now,that's not my problem. Now excuse me while I go play Zany Golf, Immortaland Task Force."I obviously do not endorse piracy, nor do I think copyrights are somethingthat become meaningless once a title goes out of print. I just think manyof us are looking at this as too black and white an issue. We're upholdingcopyright laws by saying you can't copy such and such a title that's nolonger printed-- which is fine, but at the same time we're shrugging ourshoulders and saying 10,000+ software titles are only available to those ofus who bought them and now the door is closed to anyone else. I sometimesquestion if we're doing the right thing. I mean without software, the AppleII is not much more than an interesting piece of history. An artifact, anicknack to store in the closet. I think it's still a useful computer anduse mine, I just wish others could too and enjoy the same software I had tochance to use.I'm glad there are people going to great pains to get much of the morepopulate software legally reclassified, though much of the software willremain in limbo, probably forever. Should we just say the hell with it andtell people copy whatever they want then? I don't think so, but I'm notsure this is doing much towards the continued use and popularity of theApple II. We're sort of damned we you do, and damned we don't.To get to the bottom line here, I'm worried that those titles willphysically disappear one day soon (disk media doesn't last forever, nordoes software people throw away) and one day we could find the Apple IIwith little or no software available to _anyone_. I like the fact Asimovwas making an effort to archive and preserve 8-bit Apple II programs(mostly games though) but I don't like the fact the archive is available toANY anonymous person in the world. I'd like to see clean preserved copiesof Apple II software stored safely somewhere on long-lasting media, just soit's there in the future and not gone forever because of disk rot. Itshould just be in the hands of someone official and trusted, not madeaccessible to every person in the world--that oversteps the lines ofpreservation to blatant piracy. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on this,I hope no one views this the wrong way...Mitchell Spector {<mailto:cw308@torfree.net> cw308@torfree.net}(SPECTOR1, 32258, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Excellent post Mitch! I think you've really "hit the nail on the head" withregards to the problems faced by our favorite computer. Since the Apple IIis one of the first home systems with this large a software base, it is oneof the first to be faced with this dilemma.Mark PercivalMontreal, Quebec, CanadaAn Apple II fanatic since 1979(PERCIM, 32261, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> "...it's never going to be possible to track down the copyright holder of> EVERY piece of Apple II software ever written..."True, nor is it likely that we could ever come close to tracking down everypiece of SOFTWARE, much less the authors.But it's a worthwhile effort.ARCHIVING software is all well and good. If someone were collecting allavailable software, verifying that the disk images were good, and puttingit on some permanent media to preserve it for the future, that would befine.The problem (I'm agreeing with Mitch, here) is when the files in thatarchive are made publicly available.Perhaps what the Apple II community needs is an archive site that accepts(and verifies) uploads, but ONLY permits downloads of stuff that has arelease from the copyright holder, and has that release included with thearchive.Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32267, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""That's a good idea, Gary. Preserve copies of everything so that if/whenpermission is granted, we know we have them still.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 32268, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Perhaps it's time to start another Project. Or should this be part of LostClassics? (I'm inclined to think the latter, or part of Willies TreasureChest, perhaps.)Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32277, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> Well, I don't think it's a matter of telling new users to get lost. :)I'm pretty sure I never suggested that. It's a straw man put up by thepirates to defend their actions.There are plenty of people who are working HARD, most of them on avolunteer basis, to keep Apple II software available to new users.The Treasure Chest Project and the Lost Classics Project have the specificgoal of obtaining copyright releases on commercial software, and they WORKat it. There are other people who work on the same goal as individuals,contributing when and where they can.Joe Kohn and a few others have gathered up lots of old stock and canlegitimately sell it (for next to nothing) without any copyright hassles.> "I think we should do everything we can to bring people into the fold."For many years there were people in Syndicomm who were charged withbuilding and distributing (to those who requested them) disks of basicApple II software, including freeware communications programs, wordprocessors, and, of course, operating system disks. It wasn't our goal tosupply them with all their software needs, just to give them enough to getstarted, and information on where to find more. ("teach a man to fish")> "I think too many people just give up without ever trying to contact the> copyright holders."I think too many people never try in the first place and simply go aheadand pirate stuff, and then spend all their time telling the world howwonderful they are for making it available.> "If we had a list, an organization, a Project, that would go a long way> both in actually getting software back into distribution legally..."As I have said a couple of times, we have at least TWO Projects aimed atgetting permissions (in writing, publishable) and making softwareavailable. The people involved in them could probably use more help.What _I_ am talking about is NOT a project to make software available.Rather, it is a project to PRESERVE software on (more or less) permanentmedia wo that when someone DOES get a permission, the software is notalready lost to bit rot.It would also serve to disarm the pirates who use "preservation" as anexcuse to steal.Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32286, GO COM A2)[EOA][GBD]GLEN BREDON DIES""""""""""""""""I received a message from Anne Bredon a few days ago, stating, simply: Glendied suddenly on May 8.At this time, that is all I know. I have informed Sheppy of this and heposted a message to that affect on A2Central. I also informed another AppleII News Group of this sad event and have received several messages backabout how Glen changed this or that person's life in some way due to theirmutual love affair with the Apple II computer.If you would like to send a positive message about Glen and yourself orothers that you know who were affected by Glen in positive ways, I willstart a collection and forward the final package to Mrs. Bredon.Send message to: {<mailto:ChuckNewby@aol.com> ChuckNewby@aol.com}I HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT POST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE A2NEWSGROUPS where flaming is the order of the day. However, you have mypermission to pass this message along as you feel appropriate.Chuck Newby(APPLESEEDS, 32299, GO COM A2)[EOA][APA]ARACHNID PREVIEW 2 AVAILABLE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""G'daySince I don't want to suck (see Juiced GS page 15) I thought I shouldrelease Arachnid preview 2 before the end of KFest.For any unaware, Arachnid is a Marinetti based web browser for the GS.It's available now from{<http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/arachnid/index.html.>http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/arachnid/index.html.}I'll be organizing to upload here and to Trenco shortly.Have fun with it!Kim Howe {<mailto:khowe@omninet.net.au> khowe@omninet.net.au}(KHOWE1, 32386, GO COM A2)[EOA][CFP]THE CASE OF THE FORGOTTEN PASSWORDS  :)"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I've recently been told that the Delphi webside and the text/email side arenow totally separate...this was in response to my question regarding nolonger being able to log in on the _webside_ with my current andlongstanding (coming up on six years now) ID/password combination. I'm thendirected to login as if I've forgotten my password (on the webside) then goto an area known as "My Account" to revise my password...only trouble isthere isn't any such area (webside) when I do this, so I'm confined to thetext/telnet/email areas.Is there a simple fix or solution and maybe a modicum of explanation?"service" ain't what it used to be.Regards,Tom(TDON, 32395, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Tell me about it. (No, don't, I've heard too much already.)At the very bottom of the login window (before you ever start enteringanything) in very small print (VERY small print) there is a line that says"Forgotten your forum password?"That's a link. CLick it, and it takes you to a screen that asks you foryour Delphi account name and an email address to send the new password to.Your new password will arrive in a few minutes (at least mine did). Itwon't match your old (text side) password.Once you get your new password for the web side, you can change it back tomatch your old password. Go to any Delphi web page (probably including theone you are looking at when you log in). In the upper right corner click on'my forums", then scroll all the way to the bottom of the left hand windowto a box named "my info". In that box is a link called "accountinformation" and if you click on that, you'll find the place where you canchange your password.Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32411, GO COM A2)<<<<<"""""Gary,Thanks for the detailed directions. I don't get to visit often or for long,so I haven't gone over the pages with the magnifying glass. however, Ifollowed the directions from Tamara at Service and didn't find what youdescribe, and I tried following the link that the page offers, but it tookme to nowhere where I could find the "My Account" hotlink.....but I'll try again, ever hopeful.regards,Tom(TDON, 32434, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> ..but I'll try again, ever hopeful.At the time I posted that message, I had the relevant pages open in mybrowser, to make sure that the directions were precise, so you should haveno trouble.:)Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32441, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Gary,One clarification...if I use the "forget your password" link, I gain entry,_but_ I don't get the access to the page with the "My account" link. Inorder to get to that link and to be able to change the password myself, Ihave to use the new password that is sent to me and log in and _then_ goto My Account.I'm now logged in with my original password again which is the same as forthe text/telnet access... though I still haven't a clue why it would havechanged since it has been the same for nearly six years now.First, annoyed; then, irritated; then aggravated; now, calm once again...but the memory lingers.Regards,Tom(TDON, 32447, GO COM A2)<<<<<""""">"if I use the "forget your password" link, I gain entry, _but_ I don't> get the access to the page with the "My account" link. In order to get to> that link and to be able to change the password myself, I have to use the> new password that is sent to me and log in and _then_ go to My Account."Ah, yes. I guess I didn't make it clear that you had to wait for the newpassword. Last time I forgot my password (actually I didn't forget it,Delphi did :), it took them only a couple of minutes to send me the newone, it seemed as if it were automated.> "I still haven't a clue why it would have changed "It's a Delphi bug, errr, feature. (Yeah, that's the story.)Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32449, GO COM A2)[EOA][LCM]LOST CLASSICS MOVES RIGHT ALONG""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: AAWAS1.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:41   By: HKATZ Size: 97024The World is at war at sea, and you command in this hi-res game of TheAncient Art of War At Sea. Originally released by Broderbund, this programhas been released as Freeware by the authors and copyright holders, Daveand Barry Murry, via the Lost Classics Project. Please see the Freewarenotice included on the disk. This program unshrinks to two 5.25" disks.This is disk one of the archive.                    ******************************* Name: AAWAS2.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:41   By: HKATZ Size: 96640The World is at war at sea, and you command in this hi-res game of TheAncient Art of War At Sea. Originally released by Broderbund, this programhas been released as Freeware by the authors and copyright holders, Daveand Barry Murry, via the Lost Classics Project. Please see the Freewarenotice included on the disk. This program unshrinks to two 5.25" disks.This is disk two of the archive.(TONYW1, 32421, GO CO A2)>>>>>""""" Name: FORBGR.BXY (Graphics and Sound) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:47   By: HKATZ Size: 8576FORBGR.BXY includes additional patterns to use with Beagle Graphics. BeagleGraphics is a graphics utility that lets you use the special feature builtinto the Apple //e & //c computers to display Double-Hi-Res images. It adds33 commands for use with graphics manipulation when working with DoubleHi-Res images, as well as accessing the 16 color palette. Both the DOS 3.3and ProDOS versions of this program are covered in this release.This program has now been reclassified as Freeware, and is being releasedvia The Lost Classics Project. Please see the freeware notice included inthe program archive.(TONYW1, 32423, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: DIVACCT1.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:52   By: HKATZ Size: 81664The Diversified Accountant Job Cost System will calculate the actual costfor specific jobs, compare them to previously estimated costs and willallow you to track individual employee hours. Now released as Freeware byBill Basham and Diversified Software, Inc. via The Lost Classics Project.This program is written in Pascal and unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. Pleasesee the Freeware notice found on disk 2 of this upload. This is disk 1 ofthe upload.                   ******************************* Name: DIVACCT2.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:52   By: HKATZ Size: 46720The Diversified Accountant Job Cost System will calculate the actual costfor specific jobs, compare them to previously estimated costs and willallow you to track individual employee hours. Now released as Freeware byBill Basham and Diversified Software, Inc. via The Lost Classics Project.This program is written in Pascal and unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. Pleasesee the Freeware notice found on disk 2 of this upload. This is disk 2 ofthe upload.(TONYW1, 32424, GO COM A2)[EOA][NSA]NEW SOFTWARE FOR THE IIgs - ANNOUNCED AT KFest - AND READY FOR DOWNLOAD""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: SCAP11.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 3-AUG-2000 00:08   By: SISGEOFF Size: 19584Spectrum Create-A-PDF 1.1 allows the creation of a PDF file from AppleworksClassic, Teach, Text, or Source files. This version allows the creation ofPDF files up to four megabytes in size (assuming there is enough RAM) andoptionally adding the Mac file type so the appropriate icon will show up inMac OS. Spectrum 2.2 or higher is required.(TONYW1, 32426, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: SEDISTIC.BXY (Telecommunications) Date: 3-AUG-2000 00:22   By: KEN_GAGNE Size: 6144Sedistic is a Spectrum script to apply a find/replace to an entiredirectory (or directory tree) of files (text, Teach, and Appleworks).Freeware by Ken Gagne.(TONYW1, 32427, GO COM A2)[EOA][LCP]KFest LIVE CAM BROADCAST PRAISED""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The delayed streamed QuickTime page on A2Central.com is now broadcastingthe keynote address on a repeating loop, and will continue to do so untilaround 8:30 or 9:00 AM CDT. Enjoy. :)Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 32363, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""FWIW, thanks to Sheppy, Dave (The Man) Miler, and the contributions ofmany, many other KFesters, we are having a lot of live coverage of KFest2000 on the Internet.Check http://www.a2central.com/ for details.Don't ask "When was the last time I turned the Apple II on?" Ask "When wasthe last time the Apple II turned me on?" Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution(RSUENAGA, 32364, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Sheppy & everyone else involved,Thank you so much for providing the live Webcast from KFest. The othernight I felt like I was there, even though it was a bit strange chatting inthe conference and then seeing (and hearing) your reactions live on camera.I even managed to catch most of the keynote address yesterday and part ofwhat looked like Tony Diaz's session today.I hope the camera is running tonight so I can show my visiting family whatI'm missing (they're the reason I'm not with you this year.) Tony WardApple II fan? Visit the {<http://www.delphi.com/apple2/start> A2} Forum!(TONYW1, 32371, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""I whole-heartedly agree! It's been fun popping in @ KFest for a moment hereand there (even from work!) to see what's going on!Jeff Carr Fri, 28 Jul 00 @ 4:21:04(LUMITECH, 32375, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""The live cam is the best thing since the Apple II lowercase mod kit.Henrik Woof Gudatwoof woof(GUDATH, 32377, GO COM A2)[EOA][TFC]THE FRENCH CONNECTION CD-ROMS""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >Parlez vous Francais? >"Oui" - Brutal DeluxeHmmm....that's lame, so maybe a better lead in would be...Coming soon...The French Connection CD-ROMs! Chocked filled with lots ofApple II software you didn't even know existed. Along with specialsurprises...such as the French version of Convert 3200.Stay tuned for details!Joe(JOE_KOHN, 32474, GO COM A2)[EOA][TUE]THE ULTIMATE EAMON COLLECTION ON CD-ROM"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The ultimate Eamon collection is now available on CD!The compiler of the Eamon CD is Tom Zuchowski, the editor and publisher ofthe "Eamon Adventurer's Guild," a quarterly Eamon publication that is stillbeing published today. Tom has been running the Eamon club for 13 years.The EAG was for years "Eamon Central," the place that first debugged andthen released Eamon adventures to the public domain. Most of the oldmail-order Apple II software vendors got their Eamons from the EAG, as didonline sources such as Genie, ftp.gmd.de and ground.This Eamon CD includes 242 public-domain Eamons, the three Softdisk Eamons(with permission), plus 16 years of newsletter back issues that includemany useful items such as Eamon reviews, lists and walk-throughs fordifficult Eamons. There are various utilities, maps, pictures, and lots ofother miscellaneous stuff. It includes native Apple II Eamons, Apple IIemulator DSK files, emulators for PC and Mac, and about 30 native MS-DOSEamons. Almost 1500 files all told.The CD is being produced on a CD-R drive on a Windows PC, but it uses theuniversal ISO9660 format and was checked by three Mac users forcompatibility with Macs.Effort has been taken to make this a turn-key CD. For example, the nativeApple II files are compressed, and therefore that section also includesShrinkIt. There are README-type info files for each section. The emulatorsection includes ApplePC and AppleWin emulators for PC's, and Catakig forMacs.This CD is a gift to those who are still interested in Eamon after allthese years, and so the price for the U.S. and Canada is a break-even$3.00, and that includes shipping. The international price is $7.00.International users should email {<mailto:tzuchow@attglobal.net>tzuchow@attglobal.net} for payment options.The standard version of the CD will not include Eamons #32 and #196 becauseof their extremely low quality and tasteless adult content. Anyone whowants a full CD that includes those two Eamons must specifically requestthem and also state that they are at least 18 years old.Send your check to:Tom Zuchowski7625 Hawkhaven Dr.Clemmons, NC 27012-9408 Tony WardApple II fan? Visit the {<http://www.delphi.com/apple2/start> A2} Forum!(TONYW1, 32521, GO COM A2)[EOA][NSC]NO SLOT CLOCK"""""""""""""I have heard of a device called a NO SLOT clock.Can anyone explain how these work.My //e's are getting a bit full of cards so I was curious if i could useone to get around the problem of no spare slots.Mark.(LUKE65816, 32528, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""These look a lot like a socket, except they have an embedded clock.Pry out a ROM chip in the IIe (I want to say CD but I'm not sure exactlywhich offhand), put in the NSC, put the ROM chip into the NSC, install thesoftware. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution(RSUENAGA, 32530, GO COM A2)<<<<<"""""thanks Ryan,So you need software to make it work huh ?  Won't ProDOS use it like anormal clock, as if it were a GS.  or does the software modify ProDOS towork with the NSC.Mark(LUKE65816, 32546, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> So you need software to make it work huh ?yes.> Won't ProDOS use it like a normal clock, as if it were a GS.ProDOS knows of two "normal clocks".1) The clock in the IIgs.2) The Thunderclock (the original ProDOS clock).If a clock works like a Thunderclock (like the TimeMaster II H.O.supposedly did), then ProDOS will automatically recognize it. Conversely,some software (such as ProTERM) will recognize a No Slot Clock if youselect it and install it in ProTERM even if ProDOS drivers aren'tinstalled.> or does the software modify ProDOS to work with the NSC.Yes. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution(RSUENAGA, 32549, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""In message 'no slot clock (Re: Msg 32546)' RSUENAGA in response toLUKE65816 said:>> or does the software modify ProDOS to work with the NSC.>> Yes.I took Luke's question as asking if the software patched ProDOS and I knowthat earlier versions of the No Slot Clock software did just that.However, I'm pretty sure that the most recent version of the software is a*.SYSTEM program that you put on your ProDOS boot disk and made it thefirst *.SYSTEM program so that it would be loaded, put a clock driver forthe No Slot Clock into memory and then start the second *.SYSTEM file.Not owning a No Slot Clock or having ever used the software for it, I'mjust relying on my memory, though. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum(JBLAKENEY, 32551, GO COM A2)<<<<<"""""> However, I'm pretty sure that the most recent version of the software is> a *.SYSTEM program that you put on your ProDOS boot disk and made it the> first *.SYSTEM program so that it would be loaded, put a clock driver for> the No Slot Clock into memory and then start the second *.SYSTEM file.> Not owning a No Slot Clock or having ever used the software for it, I'm> just relying on my memory, though.There is a file SMARTWATCH.BXY in the current A2 Database here.  Itcontains an archive of utilities for use with the NSC.  My recollection wasthe same as yours until I looked in the archive.  It appears that either(a) you have a choice now of patching or not, or (b) you still have topatch. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.  --  rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution(RSUENAGA, 32552, GO COM A2)[EOA][DDS]DELPHI WILL DROP SUPPORT FOR TEXT BASED ACCESS"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""">>>>> First the Letter <<<<<""""""""""""""""""""""""""""To: All paying Delphi membersFrom: Rusty Williams, President of Delphi.com, Incorporated As of November 1, 2000, you will no longer be billed for Delphi'sservices. The "legacy services" including premium homepage services,text-based online service, and Delphi e-mail will be provided on anunsupported basis. If you're being billed monthly, your last bill will befor October. If you paid an annual fee you will receive a pro-rated credit.We're making these changes in order to focus our development and marketingefforts on Delphi's free web-based forum services.  With over 2.5 millionmembers, Delphi.com is now one of the top 150 sites on the web and growingrapidly.The legacy services may remain accessible, however, there will be notechnical support. You should make arrangements as soon as possible get analternative provider -- some options are described at the end of thismessage.  Q & A -(Q) Why is Delphi making these changes?(A) For the past three years, Delphi has focused on building the best forumservices for people with a standard web browser and internet connection.The site has grown to more than 2.5 million members and 80,000 activeforums. In order to maintain our leadership in this market, we must focusour efforts on our strengths. The text-based services, e-mail services andpremium homepage services are all based on a technical platform that cannotbe maintained on a cost-effective basis. (Q) What exactly are "Text Online Services", "Premium Homepages" and"Delphi E-mail"?(A) Depending on what type of account you opened and when, you may not evenbe familiar with all of these terms. The Text Online Service was offered asDelphi's primary service through the late 80s and early 90s. Prior to nowwe've chosen to maintain this service and construct a "bridge" between theold text interface and the newer web-based forums.  This has becomeimpractical and too costly to support. The Premium Homepages were initiallyoffered in 1997 and 1998 and included special authoring tools andadditional storage for building homepages for a fee.  Delphi E-mail is anyaccount that uses xyz@delphi.com as an e-mail address (e-mail wasoriginally provided in conjunction with Homepages and textonline services). (Q) What does "unsupported" mean?(A) We hope that it means that these services will continue to beaccessible for many months without any fees. If there aren't technicalproblems, then you will be able to use them for free. You won't be able toget technical support either by e-mail or phone so everything will beentirely on an "as available" basis. If something breaks, we may commit theresources to fix it or we may not. It will depend on the time, cost, andlevel of use. (Q) I use the text-based games such as TQ and Scramble on the web. Willthese be discontinued?(A) Since these games are based on the old platform they are prone totechnical problems. Our hope is to continue providing the games, but itwill depend on the technical support costs.  Recommendation for alternative services: E-Mail services: If you use Delphi.com for e-mail (your address issomething@delphi.com), you should immediately set up an e-mail account withany Internet Service Provider or one of the free web-based providers suchas Hotmail (http://www.hotmail.com), Yahoo mail (http://mail.yahoo.com).There is a list of over 5000 Internet Service Providers athttp://www.isps.com. Once you have a new account set up, notify all of yourexisting contacts of your new address. You can arrange for your Delphi.come-mail to be forwarded to your new account by sending a request toservice@delphi.com. Homepage services: you can set up free personal homepages at hundreds ofsites on the web. Some of the most popular include http://www.tripod.com,http://www.homestead.com, http://www.geocities.com,http://www.fortunecity.com, and http://www.xoom.com.We appreciate your support of Delphi over the years and look forward toyour continued participation in Delphi's free forum services athttp://www.delphi.com. Best regards, Rusty WilliamsPresidentDelphi.com Incorporated>>>>> then some comments <<<<<""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Jeff (and everyone)>>"However, if we don't find a new home before the text side stops>> working..."Y'all will remember that Syndicomm was ready when GEnie was dying. We builta new home here.We saw THIS coming too. We're not ready to make any public announcement,but we will be, and it'll be a good one. :)Roger,>>"Where does all the wealth of uploaded files move to from here. :-("We saved all the GEnie files, and we're not losing any from here either.That's all I can say at the moment, but this isn't the first time we've hadto deal with a situation like this, and we've already been getting ready,so it ain't no big deal. :)Ryan,>>"Stay tuned for announcements :)"Well, we're maybe not quite ready for announcements, but PRE announcementsare in order...PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT:We'll have something to announce before too long, and it will be GOOD."Apple II Forever" (damn right!)Gary R. Utter(UTTER, 32582, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""If and when the textside -- which will be unsupported starting November 1stops functioning, your telnet access will go away.Delphi has not announced that the textside is being closed, but that theyplan to stop making any effort to keep it working after that date, whichmeans it could break and stay that way at any time after November 1.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 32601, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""As soon as the working details of any alternative home are made available,Crock 'O Gold will be reworked or revisited to handle it...Don't worry, we won't leave you having to use any clumsy and slow webinterface from these alternative machines some people keep mentioning... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.3 & Crock O' Gold 3.3 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 Home Pages: http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/(EWANNOP, 32605, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> Does this service change mean that COG won't work anymore?COG will continue to work until the text side breaks. Remember, Delphi saysthey will continue to provide text side access, they just won't bededicating as many resources (money) to it. If something expensive breaks,it might not get fixed.> Will I still be able to use this e-mail address?I'm a little confused about this myself. The letter from Delphispecifically states that anyone using an @delphi.com email address shouldimmediately setup an account elsewhere (yahoo, hotmail, etc.) They also saythat anyone using the Premium Homepage feature should find another freebieWeb home (geocities, xoom, tripod, etc.) My guess is that these serviceswill continue until something expensive breaks (just like the text sideaccess), in which case you'd be left without an email address and/or ahomepage. Tony WardApple II fan? Visit the {<http://www.delphi.com/apple2/start> A2} Forum!(TONYW1, 32607, GO COM A2)[EOA][BNH]A2CENTRAL.COM AND SYNDICOMM TO BUILD NEW APPLE II HOME ONLINE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""A2CENTRAL.COM AND SYNDICOMM TO BUILD NEW APPLE II HOME ONLINEAugust 19, 2000--At KansasFest 2000 three weeks ago, Eric Shepherd, editorof the popular A2Central.com web site and Syndicomm, manager of Apple IIforums for over five years, began discussing a plan to create a new AppleII home on the Internet.With Delphi's recent announcement that its text-based services would nolonger be supported effective November 1, 2000, A2Central.com and Syndicommhave decided to pre-announce their services to help alleviate any concernsamong Apple II users over losing a valuable and moderated meeting place.A2Central.com, over the coming months, will be intensively upgraded, with atelnet-accessible message board, chat area, and file library, and withWorld Wide Web access to the message board and file library. These serviceswill be provided at a small monthly fee (fee to be determined).Other services will likely be added in the future; however, the immediategoal is to prepare A2Central.com to take over Delphi's place in the AppleII community if and when it becomes inaccessible to text-based Apple IIusers.At this time, we have no more specific information available. Please watchA2Central.com (http://www.a2central.com) for future news on this matter.Eric ShepherdEditorA2Central.comWhere "Apple II Forever!" isn't just a catchy slogan.(SHEPPY, 32603, GO COM A2)[EOA][EOA][A2P]------------------------------                   A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |-----------------------------------DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2PRO"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[MOS]MARINETTI OPEN SOURCE PROJECT"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""------------------------------------------------------------------FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- 17TH AUGUST 2000FROM: RICHARD BENNETTI am announcing that I intend to release Marinetti, my proprietary TCP/IPstack for the Apple IIGS, as open source.My time for Marinetti development at the moment is limited, yet there are anumber of projects in the Apple II community which need some changes to thecode. Additionally, my test set up here is not currently adequate enoughfor testing a Marinetti production environment.The intention is to release parts of the source for developers to work on,and to feed that back into the next/current Marinetti product. If thisprocess works well, then more source will be released, until the entirecode is freely available. I also see this as an interesting test of opensourcing an Apple II product, which, if works, could be adapted to othercurrently idle Apple II products.There are a number of developers already involved in this project, and theyare currently helping me to develop a plan for release and maintenance ofthe code.Want to help?The Marinetti Open Source Project has a home page (with very little on itat this stage) at: http://www.apple2.org/mospThis announcement was originally posted in Delphi's A2Pro forum.  You maypublish this announcement, as long as the entire post is kept intact, fromthe "FOR IMMEDIATE..." down to the copyright message below, inclusive.COPYRIGHT (C) 2000, RICHARD BENNETT------------------------------------------------------------------(RICHARD_B, 3157, GO COM A2P)[EOA][MLN]MERLIN-16+ 4.12 Z.08""""""""""""""""""""Since january 1995, I've been using my own version of Merlin-16+ with addedfunctionality. Maybe others do as well. Considering Merlin is now publicdomain (perhaps), it's probably time that I released my version.My extended Merlin is available from my web site www.zip.com.au/~kashum,just follow the link to "Old Apple II code".I haven't touched it since about 1997, but it is code compatible withMerlin 4.12, so much so that I have complete source to it.Regards, Richard(RICHARD_B, 3170, GO COM A2P)[EOA][ZBC]ZBASIC BECOMES FREEWARE VIA THE LOST CLASSICS PROJECT AND UPLOADED TO A2P"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Name: ZBASIC128K.BXY (BASIC Programming)Type: PROGRAMDate: 18-AUG-2000 11:25By : HKATZSize: 154880ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are theProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one isfor 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on anyProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics andstructured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, andthe compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASICenvironment or as stand alone ProDOS applications.ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integratetext and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets.It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8megabytes, and has full mouse support.This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder,ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The LostClassics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive.This is the 128k version of Zbasic, saved as an 800k disk, and containssample files.Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK,          FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT, ZBASIC128K.BXY ********************Name: ZBASIC64K.BXY (BASIC Programming)Type: PROGRAMDate: 18-AUG-2000 11:29By : HKATZSize: 155648ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are theProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one isfor 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on anyProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics andstructured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, andthe compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASICenvironment or as stand alone ProDOS applications.ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integratetext and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets.It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8megabytes, and has full mouse support.This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder,ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The LostClassics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive.This is the 64k version of Zbasic, saved as an 800k disk, and containssample files.Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK,          FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT, ZBASIC64K.BXY(APULVER, 3163, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""Name: ZBASICD1S1.BXYType: PROGRAMDate: 18-AUG-2000 11:33By: HKATZSize: 91264ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are theProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one isfor 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on anyProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics andstructured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, andthe compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASICenvironment or as stand alone ProDOS applications.ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integratetext and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets.It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8megabytes, and has full mouse support.This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder,ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The LostClassics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive.This is the 128k version of Zbasic, saved as an 5.25" disk, side 1. Side 2contains the 64k version.Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK,          FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD1S, 1.BXY, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT ********************Name: ZBASICD1S2.BXYType: PROGRAMDate: 18-AUG-2000 11:35By: HKATZSize: 92544ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are theProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one isfor 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on anyProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics andstructured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, andthe compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASICenvironment or as stand alone ProDOS applications.ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integratetext and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets.It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8megabytes, and has full mouse support.This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder,ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The LostClassics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive.This is the 64k version of Zbasic, saved as an 5.25" disk, side 2. Side 1contains the 128k version.Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK,          FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD1S2.BXY, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT(APULVER, 3164, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""Name: ZBASICD2.BXYType: PROGRAMDate: 18-AUG-2000 11:38By: HKATZSize: 73728ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are theProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one isfor 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on anyProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics andstructured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, andthe compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASICenvironment or as stand alone ProDOS applications.ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integratetext and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets.It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8megabytes, and has full mouse support.This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder,ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The LostClassics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive.This disk contains samples for use with ZBASIC, saved on a 5.25" disk.Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK,          FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD2.BXY, SAMPLES, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT(APULVER, 3165, GO COM A2P)[EOA][FTN]------------------------------   KFest 2000, FIRST-TIMER'S NOTES |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>The friendly atmosphere, in the conversations and helpfulness permeated thehallways, the meals, the field trips, the questions, the answers, etc.TUESDAY'''''''Arrived just in time to join the trek to Gates BBQ.  Arriving on Tuesdaywas a good decision.  This provided time Tuesday evening and part ofWednesday to meet people in person, get organized, and learn my way around.While communicating with other A2 users online (many of them for years) youform a mental image of what they look like.  In many cases my images ofpeople were shattered looking at pictures of previous KFests.  For those Ihad not seen pictures of, I was in for a real surprise as to what theylooked like.WEDNESDAY'''''''''My natural alarm clock woke me up at 6AM.  The sidewalks on campus servedas a varied path for my daily morning walk.  I discovered that our dorm wasthe only building on campus that did not have wheelchair access.Supper was our first meal on campus.  It was OK.The Keynote Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~by Ryan was an enthusiastic presentation admonishing us to enjoy our AppleII's.  We also found out what Ryan's "special project" in preparation forKFest was.  A two CD set of most of the software from the GEnie (Genie) A2library of software!  Called "Time in a Bottle", we learned that it wouldbe available for purchase at the vender fair on Saturday.The Reception~~~~~~~~~~~~~sponsored by Juiced.GS was held in the dorm lounge area.  Lots offellowship with crunchy and liquid refreshments.THURSDAY'''''''''Lost Classics by Howard Katz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The basic steps for reclassifying software are:1) Identify software that is worthy of the effort.2) Determine the holder of the copyright.3) Contact this person or company to negotiate permission.4) Get the release in writing. (Either letter or Email.)5) Prepare the files for upload, including a freeware notice.6) Decide where to upload.  Avoid sites with a questionable reputation.7) Publicize the upload.Individuals can help with any of the steps.  Efforts need to becoordinated.  If you are interested contact Howard.Proterm Mac Scripting by Dave Miller and Jerry Cline~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Proterm Mac has many features including outstanding scripting capabilities.I have so much fun exploring things online that I never get around togetting very deep into scripting.Linux: The Apple II Cable modem Adapter by Ryan Suenaga and Kirk Mitchell~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Very interesting concept:Cable Modem >-> Mac or IBM running Linux >-> Null Modem Cable >->Apple IIProvides shell access for the Apple II.  You will need some help to setthis up.Accelerators and Other Cards for the Apple IIs by Tony Diaz~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Planning to "upgrade your accelerator"?  Do your research carefully.  Ifyou don't know what your doing... "leave it alone".Visit to Sean Fahey's A2 garage~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Computers, modems, cards, cooling fans, etc., etc.  "If you can use it,take it".  Wow.  Can't beat that price.FRIDAY''''''Desktop Publishing by Max Jones~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Max shared with us ideas from his many years of experience of desktoppublishing.New Stuff by Eric Shepherd~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Network Printer Setup will help you in getting your printer networkoperating.  Diskmaker can be used to convert a disk image back into aphysical disk.  Lemonade Stand GS, based on a really old program for AppleII computers, lets you go into business selling lemonadeBernie and Ernie by Eric Shepherd and Ryan Suenaga~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~A showing of the Apple IIgs emulators.  This session included a guestappearance by Henrik Gudat from Europe via the Delphi chat room.  Includedwas an announcement a program by Sarah Shepherd called GS ROM Grabber usedfor capturing the ROM from your IIgs for use with an emulator.Version 3.0 of Bernie ][ The Rescue 3.0 was also announced during thissession.KFest Roast of Eric Shepherd~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The committee worked overtime to come up with many items from Sheppy's pastto turn up the heat and entertain the KFest crowd.  Sheppy and Sarah weregood sports about it.SATURDAY""""""""BeOS, BeIA, and Clipper by Eric Shepherd~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Most of the crowd was familiar with BeOS, an operating system for the IBMcomputers.  We learned about BeIA, for internet appliances.  We wereintroduced to Clipper, a prototype of a device that has the potential to beprogramed for any one of a multitude of very specific tasks.Spectrum Scripts 2000 by Geoff Weiss""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Included were an update of SIS (Spectrum Internet Suite) and SCAP.  SFTP(under developement) is a Spectrum script that will transfer files via FTP.The Mystery Hardware Demo by Eric Shepherd~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~was delayed as long as possible waiting for a package to be received.  Thepackage arrived after KFest so the demo was turned into a description.LANceGS turned out to be a network card for the Apple II computer.  Veryexciting.Dinner at the KC Masterpiece~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Food was delicious.  Fellowship was Delightful.  Passes the "Parking LotTest" with flying colors.  :)SUNDAY''''''Breakfast, then head for home.  Think about next years KFest all the wayhome.ADDITIONAL INFORMATION''''''''''''''''''''''Explore http://www.a2central.com/ for information about KFest 2000.KFest 2001 will be at Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri, July 25-29.Keep tabs on http://www.kfest.org/ to keep up with additional information.[EOF][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in"""""""""""""""   the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi onlineservice (GO CUS 11).This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computersusing Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes.  Apple II Forever!     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2000 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All       rights reserved.     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to       thelamp@sheppyware.net     * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on       Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,       http://lamp.sheppyware.net.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of  the individual authors, and do  notnecessarily  represent  the  opinions   of  the  Delphi  Online   Services,Syndicomm, Inc.,  Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson.   Forum  messages  arereprinted verbatim and  are included  in this  publication with  permissionfrom  the  individual  authors.   Delphi Online Services,  Syndicomm, Inc.,Ryan M.  Suenaga,  and Lyle Syverson  do  not  guarantee  the  accuracy  orsuitability of any  information included herein.  We reserve  the  right toedit all letters and copy.Material published  in  this  edition  may not  be  reprinted  without  theexpressed  written consent  of the  publisher.   Registered  computer  usergroups, not  for profit  publications ,  and other  interested parties  maywrite the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[EOF]
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