[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi | | |_|----------------------------------- >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Apple II USER GROUPS TELECONFERENCE OFF LINE READERS.... NOT FOR EVERYONE AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 3, No. 4 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Mail, Editor.................................lyle837@delphi.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ April 15, 2000HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER Habits-----------------------------------------------------------[OPN]KFest 2000 (Y][K Fest) Kfest Early Bird Registration Discount Deadline Extended---------[DDE] Need a Ride to Kfest?--------------------------------------------[RKF] KFest 2000 Registration Information------------------------------[GVO]A2 DISTILLATIONS Super Serial Cards and Turbo ASP Baud Rate Generator-------------[SSC] Silvern Castle, Role Playing Game--------------------------------[SCG] Ultima I Re-Release----------------------------------------------[URR] Spectrum Automated Mailer----------------------------------------[SAM] Juiced.GS Delayed to Include Late Breaking News------------------[JGS] Kfest Early Bird Registration Discount Deadline Extended---------[DDE] Need a Ride to Kfest?--------------------------------------------[RKF] Update Spectrum to 2.3-------------------------------------------[SUD] Spectrum 2.3 Updater Available on Delphi A2----------------------[UOD] Moving ROM from one Apple IIc to Another-------------------------[MRC] More Software Via the Lost Classics Project----------------------[LCP]A2P DISTILLATIONS Upgrade Your Delphi Account to Premium Service-------------------[UTP] Get_Mark and Set_Mark From Basic---------------------------------[MFB] Saving Pathnames in Basic----------------------------------------[SPB]Apple II USER GROUPS TELECONFERENCE AAAC Meets AppleByters-------------------------------------------[TEL]OFF LINE READERS Not For Everyone-------------------------------------------------[NFE]EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]------------------------------ HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson Habits ~~~~~~ Looking down from High Above The Rock River from day to day I noticethat some people walk along a fixed route each day. Just one example ofhow people fall into a comfortable rut. Trying something new or going somewhere you have not traveled to canbe inspiring. So if you have not been to Kfest why not give it a try thisyear? [*] [*] [*] Six years of using Pine for Email is one of my comfortable habits.Will have to place an order for SAM and give it a try. SAM? SpectrumAutomated Mailer. Works with Spectrum 2.3. See A2 Distillations for moreinformation.[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________ _ _ _|__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson [SSC]SUPER SERIAL CARDS AND Turbo ASB baud rate generator""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""> 1. Do they have one or more purposes? What are they?A serial card gives your Apple II a serial port, which is usually used forconnecting a modem or printer. This isn't really needed on a IIgs since ithas two built-in serial ports, but it comes in really handy on the otherApple II models.> 2. Are there more than one kind of Super Serial Card?Apple's Super Serial Card was the most popular. Going by memory, I thinkApplied Engineering had the Serial Pro. There were probably more, but Ican't think of them now.> 3. Is the Turbo ASB baud rate generator for the Super Serial Card part> of the Super Serial Card or some kind of additional plug on card?It's a piggyback "daughterboard" that connects to the Super Serial Card.It takes the place of the 6551 chip, which is socketed on the Apple SuperSerial Card so it's very easy to install. The down side is that it sticksout a bit and blocks the adjacent slot.> 4. What exactly does the Turbo ASB baud rate generator do?It increases the serial card's baud rate to a theoretical maximum of230,400 bps. In practice, you'll find that 115,200 bps is about as fast asyou can go, and even that will require an accelerated (at least 8MHz) IIgs.Honestly, I'd say it's more of a "geek toy" that most people don't need.Most of the time I'm perfectly happy with the built-in 57600 bps IIgsserial port. Only when I'm downloading some insanely large amount of highlycompressible data (ie. text) do I use it at full speed. But I must say it'sfun to see download speeds in excess of 8000 cps on my IIgs. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Fri Mar 17, 2000 12:21:01 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.3 and Crock O' Gold v3.3](TONYW1, 30173, GO COM A2)[EOA][SCG]SILVERN CASTLE, role-playing game"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Has anyone attempted the new "Expanded Scenario" included with SCv3.0? It'sbased on user feedback that ties a number of items that before weren'trequired to win. I encourage all SC champions to try it out as it containsthe secret codes needed to access the upcoming SCv4.0 which includes anadditional multi-level scenario: "Shades of the Past".I'm posting this by masquerading under a friend's account, as I have notyet managed to get online myself. E-mails to this account will get to me,so feel free to do so. Comments and replies welcomed.Jeff Fink, Silvern Castle author.Apple II forever.(ROFFERSD, 30273, TO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Ok, so I'm dumb. I've never heard of Silvern Castle. Which model(s) of theApple ][ does it run on. I'm assuming from the title that it is anadventure game. Graphical? And how does one get it?Exegete AKA Roy MillerFaith Orthodox Presbyterian ChurchApple ][ forever!(EXEGETE, 30274, TO COM A2)<<<<<"""""Silvern Castle is a role-playing game much like the Wizardry and the Bard'sTale. It's uses the hi-res screen to display text and a 3-D view of themaze. It will run on ANY model Apple II that can boot ProDOS (that is,64K), and can run on 5.25" disks, although to access the new scenarios youneed at least a 3.5" drive or hard drive. For user comments see the SilvernCastle sections in this forum dating back to Aug '99 or get yourself a copyof the Oct '99 issue of Juiced.GS which contains a review.Silvern Castle is a $15 shareware product available from the Delphi AppleII library, Trenco, and from Juiced.GS. As I'm net impaired, I'm suresomeone here can help you download a copy if you need more help.Jeff FinkSilvern Castle author.(ROFFERSD, 30276, TO COM A2)>>>>>"""""This version contains an additional scenario: "Shades of the Past", whichincludes a completely new multi-level maze! It can only be accessed byregistered users who have defeated the evil wizard Drachma. SC championswho have finished before SCv3.0 was released should attempt to re-win asthe first scenario has been expanded since the SCv3.0 release OR find theportal located somewhere on the first level (read the briefing materials inthe Tome of Knowledge for hints to the password).The new maze contains new twists, hidden elevators, additional monsters anditems, puzzles, and a secret plot, as well as many more special goodies!Unlike the first scenario, this maze was totally created from scratch.Comments, opinions, replies welcomed.Jeff Fink, Silvern Castle author.(ROFFERSD, 30275, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Hey Jeff!!Welcome to Delphi!I received your package containing the disk with Silvern Castle v4.0 thisweekend, and will work to get it uploaded in the next few days.Unfortunately, I lost my reliable upload/download route to Delphi's A2library when Genie died, so I'll need to e-mail the archives to a fellowDelphinian for uploads to Delphi (and Trenco).It's great to see you here on Delphi, Jeff. Hope you can stay around awhile and enjoy the fun.BTW, the new version of Silvern Castle will also be on the Juiced.GSCollection Shareware 2000/Winter two-disk set, which will be available assoon as the next issue of Juiced.GS hits the streets in a couple weeks. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs(JUICEDGS, 30309, GO COM A2)[EOA][URR]ULTIMA I RE-RELEASE"""""""""""""""""""Although some of the details still need to be worked out, I just wanted tolet folks who weren't at last night's chat know that Burger Bill Heinemanand Shareware Solutions II have agreed to re-release the IIGS version ofUltima I, a fantasy role-playing adventure game which has been out of printsince Vitesse closed their doors a year or two ago.It'll be a few weeks at least before it's available, as a manual needs tobe printed. If Bill can get Vitesse's manual in electronic format, then theprocess should go fairly quickly. And if not, well...I'll have lots oftyping to do, or if I'm lucky, it'll be "InWords ][ The Rescue." ;-)In any case, I just wanted to let folks know that at some point in the nearfuture, Ultima I for the Apple IIGS will be available exclusively fromShareware Solutions II.Joe Kohnhttp://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(JOE_KOHN, 30307, GO COM A2)[EOA][SAM]SUSPENSE ALWAYS MOTIVATES ?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Every once in a while, a new program is released which changes the waypeople use their computers.A brand new and soon-to-be-released program for the Apple IIGS will shortlybe changing the way that many people use their IIGS.To celebrate the impending release of this (for now) un-named program, aspecial Product Introduction get together will take place on April 10, 2000during the regularly scheduled Monday Night Chat.No questions will be answered before then, so please mark your calendar nowfor 10 PM EDT on 4/10/2000. At that time, all will be revealed.Sometimes wishes do come true! The Apple IIGS world is about to change, andyou can learn how and why in just 8 more days!Joe Kohnhttp://users.foxvalley.net/~joko(JOE_KOHN, 30364, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""The Apple IIGS world already has a few virtual friends, including thatlovable dog Bernie and his parrot sidekick Ernie.At tonight's chat, you'll get to meet the latest virtual friend of theApple IIGS....Sam.Sam? Did you say Sam? Who or what is Sam?Come to the chat tonight and find out ;-)Joe - Friend of Sam(JOE_KOHN, 30482, (GO COM A2)>>>>> Ah... Suspense Always Motivates = SAM :)""""" """"""*""""""""*""""""*"""""""""""""""""The following list was posted by the special surprise guest at last night'schat - Ewen Wannop - and it should hopefully answer the most basicquestion: What is SAM? SAM - The Spectrum Automated Mailer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SAM is a script set for Spectrum v2.3 Simple one-step installation Sends E-Mail to your SMTP mail server Receives E-Mail from multiple POP3 servers Authentication on both send and receive mail Optional 'send' on 'check' Forwarding and Redirecting of mail Multiple file attachments Simple extraction of attachments Powerful message reader Auto 'quoting' of replies Auto-Signature feature View HTML encoded messages Address book with 'nickname' feature Filing of 'read' mail in custom mailboxes Housekeeping feature archives old mail Search engine for archived mail Customisable 'Quit' to other applications Available exclusively from Shareware Solutions II Comes on a single floppy, $15 includes shippingNote from Joe: As soon as my Kagi online order site is updated, you'll beable to purchase SAM via credit card, over the net. The URL is:http://order.kagi.com/?zs3Many more details about SAM will be forthcoming in the next day or two, soplease stay tuned...Joe Kohn(JOE_KOHN, 30492, GO COM A2)>>>>> OH... SAM = Spectrum Automated Mailer!""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Spectrum Automated MailerPutting Internet e-mail onto the IIGS DesktopShareware Solutions II, in association with Ewen Wannop, is thrilled toannounce that Spectrum Automated Mailer for the Apple IIGS has beenreleased.Spectrum Automated Mailer, known affectionately as SAM, is a sophisticatedand comprehensive suite of scripts for Spectrum v2.3 that provides anelegant but easy way for Internet-connected IIGS users to send outgoinge-mail to an SMTP mail server and to receive incoming e-mail from multiplePOP3 servers.SAM works in conjunction with Marinetti, and it is an offline mailer thatallows you to manage, prepare and send e-mail through your Internet ServiceProvider's SMTP mail server. SAM will then read any waiting mail frommultiple POP3 mail servers for all of your online e-mail accounts. Onceoffline, SAM lets you read and reply to your new e-mail, and if NiftySpellinstalled, SAM will even spell check your e-mail messages. SAM has theability to decode attached mail files, and it will even display HTML codethat is sent through e-mail.Additionally, SAM lets you file mail you want to keep in multiple personalmailboxes, and to optionally attach multiple files to any outgoingmessages. Housekeeping features let you manage your archives, and apowerful search engine lets you search through these saved files.SAM requires Spectrum 2.3 or later, Marinetti 2.0 or later, and to use SAMto send and receive Internet e-mail, you must have an account with anInternet Service Provider with which Marinetti can connect (SLIP or PPP).(Note: An updater program is included with SAM which will update Spectrum2.2 to 2.3)SAM was written by Ewen Wannop, the author of Spectrum and Crock O'Gold,and it is available exclusively through Shareware Solutions II for $15.To purchase SAM by credit card over the Internet, visit Shareware SolutionsII's online store at: http://order.kagi.com/?zs3To purchase SAM by mail, send a check or money order in US Funds for $15to:Joe KohnShareware Solutions II166 Alpine StSan Rafael, CA 94901For information about purchasing Spectrum or updating to Spectrum v2.2,visit:http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/applesoftware/iigs/sp.htm(JOE_KOHN, 30523, GO COM A2)[EOA][JGS]JUICED.GS DELAYED TO INCLUDE SCOOP!"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Hey gang,A funny thing happened last week on the way to the printer with a new issueof Juiced.GS. Joe Kohn dashed in front of my speeding car and announced tothe world he would be unveiling a new piece of cool software at his Monday,April 10, Delphi chat.Well .... no self-respecting journalist (or Apple II newsletter editor)could go the press knowing a big story was about to break.I came to a screeching halt and decided to wait out the product release soI can include the news in this issue. I was so impressed with theannouncement of SAM that I re-worked this issue so that it will be thecover story. :-)I am writing the article tonight, and hopefully will be able to place it onthe final two pages of this issue tonight or Thursday night.So, Juiced.GS, April 2000, Volume 5, Issue 1, is temporarily delayed, andfor what I believe is a darned good reason. :-)Depending on how the printing goes, subscribers should begin receivingtheir copies next week.Thanks for your patience. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs(JUICEDGS, 30527, GO COM A2)[EOA][DDE]Kfest EARLY BIRD Registration Discount Deadline Extended""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Max not only delayed the current copy of Juiced.GS, he also suggested thatwe delay the "early bird" date for KFest registration. He didn't want hisloyal "friends for life" readers to suffer because of the late breakingnews.So, if you are a new KFester and want to take advantage of the earlyregistration, you now have until May 1, 2000.The Big Cheese(aka Cindy)(CINDYADAMS, 30528, GO COM A2)[EOA][RKF]NEED A RIDE TO KFEST?"""""""""""""""""""""Ack! That post got a little messed up. I have no idea what went wrong butI will try to get the full message through this time. Most of the messagemade it through but I'll try to reconstruct the first few lines and repostin its entirety:Early registration for KFest is only a week away (the 15th of April) so Ithought I'd remind people of this fact so they can take advantage of thesavings.I'd also like to take this opportunity to see if there is anyone interestedin sharing the drive this year. Last year I shared the ride there withDave Miller and Gina Saiken and the ride home with just Dave.I'll probably follow a similar route to last year. Entering the UnitedStates through Detroit and continuing on from there. Just get a map anddraw a straight line from Detroit to Kansas City. If you aren't too faroff that line and want to catch a ride, please let me know. I won't knowmy exact route until I've found out who is coming and where they live.I have signed up for the extra night on Tuesday again this year as it makesit much easier to get settled in and prepared for the fun. This means Ishould be leaving the Toronto, Ontario area probably early on Mondaymorning (the 24th of July) and should be back in the Toronto area late inthe evening of the following Monday (the 31st of July).Depending on how many drivers and what everyone's thoughts are on thematter, we can either stop for a night somewhere along the way or we candrive straight through.So far this year I only have one tentative traveller. Michael Hackett hasexpressed an interest in sharing the ride from Toronto but this has yet tobe confirmed. Dave and Gina haven't told me whether they are going or wantto share a ride again this year or not.I look forward to hearing from interested parties and look forward evenmore too seeing everyone at KFest again this year. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum(JBLAKENEY, 30439, GO COM A2)[EOA][SUD]UPDATE SPECTRUM TO 2.3"""""""""""""""""""""" ATTENTION SPECTRUM 2.2 USERS! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The Spectrum 2.3 updater is now available from my home pages. It will alsoappear in the Delphi library in due course.The 480K file consists of a script that will update a copy of yourinstalled Spectrum 2.2 to 2.3, and some updated XCMDs. Full instructionsare enclosed.There are a number of minor bug fixes, but the main fix is for a problemwith Zmodem file transfers. Anyone having problems with transfers shoulddownload the update, and anyone contemplating using Spectrum Internet Suite(SIS) with Marinetti TCP/IP should also download the update.The update is not available from My eSource (Formerly Seven Hills).My home pages are: Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 7 Apr 2000 - 110 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.3 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/(EWANNOP, 30431, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""> anyone contemplating using Spectrum> Internet Suite (SIS) with Marinetti> TCP/IP should also download the updateSIS 1.1, using a TCP/IP connection, works a whole lot better with thisversion. (2.3) Connections to servers which do not follow the RFC standarddo have problem and will result in hangs. I'm aware of this and will lookinto it when I can get some time. I've been very busy recently, but expectto get this resolved some time real soon now.Meanwhile, the alpha (or is it a beta?--can't remember) version of theSpectrum 2.2 TCP/IP library that is found in the Delphi library will give ataste of the power of what is to come. Even though it mentions Spectrum 2.2in its name, it will work with Spectrum 2.3.Geoff(SISGEOFF, 30433, GO COM A2)[EOA][UOD]SPECTRUM 2.3 UPDATER AVAILABLE ON DELPHI A2""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: SP23UPDATER.BXY (Telecommunications) Date: 16-APR-2000 20:19 By: EWANNOP Size: 357504The Spectrum 2.3 Updater will convert Spectrum v2.2 into v2.3. It fixes anumber of minor bugs that have arisen since the release of Spectrum v2.2.You must have an installed copy of Spectrum 2.2 for the Updater to work.Uploaded by the Author.(TONYW1, 30564, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""For those who purchase SAM from ShareWare Solutions II, they will get acopy of this updater on the SAM disk. Spectrum 2.3 is required by SAM.For everybody else using Spectrum, you should download and install thisupdater as soon as you can.It fixes the Zmodem problem that Leon, Lyle and others reported, and worksround a bug in Marinetti that caused problems with using the TCP/IP libraryfor SIS.You will still find that some pages will not load with SIS, but this is dueto an unrelated problem. Geoff hopes to release an updated TCP/IP library,or an updated SIS at some time in the near future.(EWANNOP, 30572, GO COM A2)[EOA][MRC]MOVING ROM FROM ONE Apple IIc TO ANOTHER IIc""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""> Question... is it possible to remove the ROM from an Apple IIc that> supports a 3.5" Unidisk Drive and install it in another IIc that is in> better condition so the second computer will support the Unidisk Drive?Absolutely. However in addition to changing the ROM chip, you'll also haveto make two minor modifications to the mainboard.The modification involves cutting the trace labeled 'W1' with a fine blade(board location C-16/17--to the left of ROM firmware) and closing the tracelabeled 'W2' with a drop of solder (board location E-15--in between MMU andIOU chips).>If yes, which chip is the IIc ROM chip. I popped the top of and old dud>IIc and looked at the MB, but it didn't specifically indicate which is the>ROM chip. The MB looked like ( in text)It's the chip at location D-19 on the board. Just to the extreme left ofthe 65C02 CPU and above the IIc speaker. Don't mix it up with the ROM chipjust above it, which is the keyboard ROM.All these locations I've listed are at the front end of the boardincidentally, underneath the IIc's keyboard (use the alphanumeric markingson the edges of the board to find locations like you would a map grid).> Another question... is it possible to determine what ROM version an> Apple IIc has by reading the label on the chip?Yep, but I don't know those part numbers off the top of my head. One clueshould be the copyright date printed on the chip. The original ROM wouldmost likely be (c)83-84, while the UniDisk 3.5 ROM would be (c)84-85.With the machine turned on, an easy to identify the ROM is by typing thefollowing (minus the quotations) from an Applesoft prompt:"PRINT PEEK(64447)"The number returned will be one of the following..."255" = Original IIc"0" = UniDisk 3.5 support"3" = Memory Expandable IIc"4" = Memory Expandable IIc w/ bug fix (serial firmware)"5" = Apple IIc PlusMitchell Spector { cw308@torfree.net}(SPECTOR1, 30540, GO COM A2)[EOA][LCP]MORE SOFTWARE VIA THE LOST CLASSICS PROJECT"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Here are some more great freeware releases, courtesy of Howard Katz and theLost Classics Project! Name: OUTLINER.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:26 By: HKATZ Size: 93056Outliner for AppleWorks allows AW3 users to organize their thoughts in theword processor by setting up an organization outline, using titles,headers, subheaders, etc. The Outline can be either used to expand yourmaterial as you write, or can be collapsed in hidden form to be used later.Now released as Freeware by Randy Brandt via the Lost Classics Project. ******************************* Name: TOPOWERPACK.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:26 By: HKATZ Size: 87552TimeOut PowerPack gives AppleWorks users 10 different utilities for use inAW3 - 5.x (Note however, that some of these do not work with 4.x and 5.x,or, like triple.clip and triple.desk, are built into the newer versions.)The utilities include:TO.ASCII TO.AWP.TO.TXT TO.DB.SEARCH TO.DESK.SORTER TO.HELPSCREENSTO.LIBRARIAN TO.LINE.SORTER TO.SELECTOR TO.TRIPLE.CLIP TO.TRIPLE.DESKNow released as Freeware by Randy Brandt via the Lost Classics Project. ******************************* Name: TODESKTOOLS.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:26 By: HKATZ Size: 104320TimeOut DeskTools gives AppleWorks users 11 different utilities for use inAW3 - 5.x (Note however, that some of these may not work with 4.x and 5.x.)The utilities include:TO.CALENDAR TO.CASE.CONVERT TO.ENCRYPTER TO.CLOCK TO.CLIPBOARD TO.DIALERTO.ENVELOPE.ADDRESSER TO.NOTEPAD TO.PAGE.PREVIEW TO.PUZZLE TO.WORD.COUNTNow released as Freeware by Alan Bird via the Lost Classics Project. ******************************* Name: TOFILEMASTR.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:25 By: HKATZ Size: 71936TimeOut FileMaster gives AppleWorks 3.x users the ability to manipulatefile and disk operations from within AW. Options include copy, delete,compare, rename (files and disks), change a file type or clear a filebackup bit, and erase or format a disk. Note that this utility is notneeded in AppleWorks 4.x and 5.x since these functions were built-in tothese versions. Now released as Freeware by Randy Brandt via the LostClassics Project.(TONYW1, 30167, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: TOGRAPHDOCS.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 112384This archive includes the manual for use with TimeOut Graph. Most of thegraphics have been reproduced as DHR graphics can be read by eitherTO.Paint or the AppleWorks 5 database.Thanks to Gareth Jones for preparing this manual for upload. The Manual isnow part of the Freeware classification of the TimeOut Graph release.Please see the Freeware notice included as part of this package. Releasedvia The Lost Classics Project. ******************************* Name: TOSIDESPRED.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 87936TimeOut SideSpread changes the printout orientation for a spreadsheet fromportrait to landscape; if you've ever had a spreadsheet wrap columns to thenext line, you will appreciate this TimeOut utility. Originally releasedfor AppleWorks 3.0. This software has been released as freeware by thecopyright holder, Mark Simonsen via The Lost Classics Project. Please seethe attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive.(TONYW1, 30168, TO COM A2)>>>>>"""""And now for some SuperFonts! ******************************* Name: TOSUPRFONTS.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 292352TimeOut SuperFonts ver 3.1 allows AppleWorks users to use a variety ofMacintosh fonts for printout from within an AppleWorks 3.0 or higher wordprocessing document. TimeOut PickFonts is included. Also includes TimeOutPaint. Graphics created with TO.Paint may be used with TimeOut SuperFontsand To.Graph. The manual for To.Paint is included in this archive. 47 fontsare included on this disk; for more fonts, please see the FontPak 1 andFontPak 2 disks. This software has been released as freeware by thecopyright holder, Mark Simonsen and Beagle.Bros via The Lost ClassicsProject. Please see the attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive. ******************************* Name: FONTPAK1.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 105984FontPak 1 contains 40 additional fonts for use with TimeOut SuperFonts.TimeOut SuperFonts allows AppleWorks users to use a variety of Macintoshfonts for printout from within an AppleWorks 3.0 or higher word processingdocument. For more fonts, please see the FontPak 2 and the TimeOutSuperFont disks. This software has been released as freeware by thecopyright holder, Mark Simonsen and Beagle.Bros via The Lost ClassicsProject. Please see the attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive. ******************************* Name: FONTPAK2.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 117632FontPak 2 contains 54 additional fonts for use with TimeOut SuperFonts.TimeOut SuperFonts allows AppleWorks users to use a variety of Macintoshfonts for printout from within an AppleWorks 3.0 or higher word processingdocument. For more fonts, please see the FontPak 1 and the TimeOutSuperFont disks. This software has been released as freeware by thecopyright holder, Mark Simonsen and Beagle.Bros via The Lost ClassicsProject. Please see the attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive.(TONYW1, 30169, GO COM A2)>>>>>"""""Still more Beagle freeware! ******************************* Name: BEAGLEWRITE.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 340992BeagleWrite is a ProDOS-based graphic word processor for the Apple //family. It allows the user to access a variety of pull-down menus, theability to use different fonts, as well as mouse ability within theprogram. This software has been released as freeware by the copyrightholder, Mark Simonsen via The Lost Classics Project. Please see theattached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive. Additionally, the BeagleWritePicture Manager and Desk Accessories disk are now available, as freeware,to give the user full functionality of this program. ******************************* Name: BWPICMGR.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 83072BeagleWrite Picture Manager allows the importation of PrintShop (8-bit) andNewsRoom images or NewsRoom banners into BeagleWrite. BeagleWrite is aProDOS based graphic word processor for the Apple // family. It allows theuser to access a variety of pull-down menus, the ability to use differentfonts, as well as mouse ability within the program. This software has beenreleased as freeware by the copyright holder, Mark Simonsen via The LostClassics Project. Please see the attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in the archive.Additionally, the BeagleWrite Desk Accessories and Beaglewrite itself arenow available, as freeware. ******************************* Name: BWDESKACC.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 16-MAR-2000 22:56 By: HKATZ Size: 36352BeagleWrite Desk Accessories adds a clock, calendar, and a calculator toBeagleWrite. All functions may be used from within the program. BeagleWriteis a ProDOS-based graphic word processor for the Apple // family. It allowsthe user to access a variety of pull-down menus, the ability to usedifferent fonts, as well as mouse ability within the program. This softwarehas been released as freeware by the copyright holder, Mark Simonsen viaThe Lost Classics Project. Please see the attached FREEWARE.NOTICE in thearchive. Additionally, the BeagleWrite Picture Manager and BeagleWriteitself are now available, as freeware.(TONYW1, 30170, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: TRIDMPDS33A.BXY (Utility Software) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:37 By: HKATZ Size: 72448Triple Dump is a "print anything" program for dot matrix printers. Itincludes dot-for-dot reproductions of your hi-res pictures as well ascropping, rotating, and other effects; converts lo-res colors into shadesof grey for printer usage; do text screen dumps; print anything that'sviewable on your Apple II screen. Includes a bonus banner maker, which letsyou print signs and banners with 8" high characters. In both ProDOS and DOS3.3 disk archives, Triple Dump is now released as freeware by Rob Renstromand Mark Simonsen via the Lost Classics Project. Please see theFREEWARE.NOTICE included in the archive. This is side A of the DOS 3.3disk. You will also need tridmpds33b.bxy. ******************************* Name: TRIDMPDS33B.BXY (Utility Software) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:37 By: HKATZ Size: 64896Triple Dump is a "print anything" program for dot matrix printers. Itincludes dot-for-dot reproductions of your hi-res pictures as well ascropping, rotating, and other effects; converts lo-res colors into shadesof grey for printer usage; do text screen dumps; print anything that'sviewable on your Apple II screen. Includes a bonus banner maker, which letsyou print signs and banners with 8" high characters. In both ProDOS and DOS3.3 disk archives, Triple Dump is now released as freeware by Rob Renstromand Mark Simonsen via the Lost Classics Project. Please see theFREEWARE.NOTICE included in the archive. This is side B of the DOS 3.3disk. You will also need tridmpds33a.bxy. ******************************* Name: TRIDUMPPRO1.BXY (Utility Software) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:37 By: HKATZ Size: 74496Triple Dump is a "print anything" program for dot matrix printers. Itincludes dot-for-dot reproductions of your hi-res pictures as well ascropping, rotating, and other effects; converts lo-res colors into shadesof grey for printer usage; do text screen dumps; print anything that'sviewable on your Apple II screen. Includes a bonus banner maker, which letsyou print signs and banners with 8" high characters. In both ProDOS and DOS3.3 disk archives, Triple Dump is now released as freeware by Rob Renstromand Mark Simonsen via the Lost Classics Project. Please see theFREEWARE.NOTICE included in the archive. This is side 1 of the ProDOS disk.You will also need tridumppro2.bxy. ******************************* Name: TRIDUMPPRO2.BXY (Utility Software) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:37 By: HKATZ Size: 59904Triple Dump is a "print anything" program for dot matrix printers. Itincludes dot-for-dot reproductions of your hi-res pictures as well ascropping, rotating, and other effects; converts lo-res colors into shadesof grey for printer usage; do text screen dumps; print anything that'sviewable on your Apple II screen. Includes a bonus banner maker, which letsyou print signs and banners with 8" high characters. In both ProDOS and DOS3.3 disk archives, Triple Dump is now released as freeware by Rob Renstromand Mark Simonsen via the Lost Classics Project. Please see theFREEWARE.NOTICE included in the archive. This is side 2 of the ProDOS disk.You will also need tridumppro1.bxy.(TONYW1, 30544, TO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: TOTELECOMM.BXY (Telecommunications) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:56 By: HKATZ Size: 94208TimeOut Telecomm ver. 1.2 gives AppleWorks users the ability to go onlinefrom within the AW environment. It features the ability to send textdirectly from the desktop, a review buffer, VT-52 emulation (among others),the ability to print the current screen being shown, and a splitscreenoption. Protocol transfers are limited to 128 xmodem, 128 xmodem/CRC, 1kxmodem, and 4k xmodem. Compatible with AW3 and up, this program has nowbeen released as Freeware by the author, Mark de Jong, and is beingreleased via the Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICEincluded in the archive.(TONYW1, 30545, GO COM A2)>>>>>""""" Name: HPDOWN2EV11.BXY (Utility Software) Date: 14-APR-2000 23:59 By: HKATZ Size: 20992DOWN.I and CONFIG.DOWN are Apple II ProDOS 8 machine language programswhich allows the user to take Apple IIGS fonts, and convert them into theformat for the Hewlett-Packard LaserJet IIP and downloads them.This program can be used on any Apple II except an Apple IIGS. For theApple IIGS you must use an NDA, from Raptor, Inc. called HP Downloader,which has also been released as freeware. This program and the NDA arevirtually identical. They both convert the fonts and down load them andcreate exactly the same type of binary files. The differences are due onlyto the type of Apple II computer used.This program _may_ also be capable of downloading Apple IIgs fonts to aHewlett-Packard LaserJet III, other HP printers and laser printers whichemulate the HP LaserJet IIP. However this program WAS NOT TESTED ON ANYOTHER PRINTER and, therefore, use with any other printer other than theHewlett-Packard (HP) LaserJet IIP is done so at the user's risk. WHAT ELSE YOU'LL NEEDIn addition to the files DOWN.I and CONFIG.DOWN you will also need twofiles from a Beagle Bros program called TRIPLE DUMP: "Interface.List" and"I.Drivers".TRIPLE DUMP is a graphics printing program for the Apple II+, IIe and IIc.The two files are needed from it because they provide the codes andprocedures for just about every interface card that can be used on an AppleII.Triple Dump has been released as freeware by Beagle.Bros and may beavailable from the same source where you got this program. If not, themajor Apple II ftp sites such as Delphi and Ground should have this programavailable in their files.Documentation for use with this program are included in the archive.Now released as freeware by John Majka of Raptor, Inc via The Lost Classicsproject. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included in the archive.(TONYW1, 30546, GO COM A2)[EOA][GVO]Y][K Fest Registration Info... meet old friends... meet new A2 friends...""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ______ _____( ) ( ) ____________________________________________ | | / / ( ____________________________2000____) | | / / | | | |/ / | | II Infinitum!! | / | |______ | |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________ | | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __) | | \ \ | | | |__ \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | __) \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | |(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|Help usher in the 21st century with the Apple II!! When: July 26-30, 2000 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri+++The most important Apple II event of the year, Y ][ KFest (KFest 2000), ison our calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a placeon your calendar, too.Better yet, KFest is back with the same great prices as last year!Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening(dinner) on July 26, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 30.(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night Out On TheTown!)+++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++ Double room: $225 Single room: $275 Spouse rate (bring the spouse or son or daughter): $175 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++ Double room: $275 Single room: $325 Spouse rate (bring the spouse or son or daughter): $225 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225Those cool KFest "soft-wear" T-shirts will also be available again thisyear for $15, but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration formbelow.)+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++Like last year, Y ][ KFest will start early for those who'd like to arrivea little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy on Tuesdaynight for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned, althoughthe day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurant for someof that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only): Double room: $25 Single room: $33For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-inwill be from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.Current plans call for formal Y ][ KFest sessions to begin with dinner inthe Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followedby the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some greatplans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software andhardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fairslated for Saturday afternoon.Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinnerthrough Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many finerestaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at Jess &Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legalguardian. ***Y ][ KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc.,makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II andMacintosh.If you have questions about Y ][ KFest, or wish to make suggestions, youcan find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:kfest-help@kfest.org ... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page at:http://www.kfest.orgIf you're thinking about attending Y ][ KFest, please join the KFestInternet e-mail chat:To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email tomajordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text: subscribe kfestYou will receive a confirmation e-mail. In order to be signed up for thelist, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructionsdictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list. ---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---Y ][ KFest Registration FormView and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default) orany other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum.Registering for Y ][ KFest <> By phone: - Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515 - Be prepared to give the information requested in the KFest Registration Form below. <> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number: - Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form. Email: (NOTE: email is not secure.) Fax: 602/992-0232 <> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order: - Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form. - Mail the form with the payment to: InTrec Software, Inc. Attn: KFest Registration 3035 E Topaz Cir Phoenix, Az 85028-4423 Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds. Registration Cost Check Applicable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Early Bird rates (before April 15) Double $225 [ ] Single $275 [ ] Spouse only $175 [ ] Off campus $175 [ ]Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door) Double room $275 [ ] Single room $325 [ ] Spouse only $225 [ ] Conference only $225 [ ]Early Arrival rates Double $25 [ ] Single $33 [ ] T-Shirts $15 ea May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]NoIf NO, how can we contact you for confirmation?:____________________________________________________________________________________________________Roommate preference: _____________________________________________________ Prefer a smoker/non-smoker. Check one: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke KFest Softwear: Order a memorable collectible Y ][ KFest T-Shirt? $15 ea Quantity: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Size: SML MED LRG XLRG 2XLRG 3XLRG Today's Date: ________/_________/_________ 1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... ______________ 2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... ______________ 3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ ______________ 4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... ______________ 5- Arizona residents only add .07% tax: .............. ______________ 6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. ______________ Discover, Visa, Mastercard or American Express accepted. Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US bank. _______________________________ _____________________________________ First Name Last Name _____________________________________________________________________ Organization (if applicable to Y ][ KFest) _____________________________________________________________________ Shipping Address _____________________________________________________________________ City _______________________________________________ _____________________ State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code _______/_______________________ _______/_____________________________ Day Phone Eve Phone [____________________________________________________________________ Internet Mail Address [ ] [ / ] Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-Amex) Expiration Date _____________________________________________________________________ Name on Card (please print clearly) _____________________________________________________________________ Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.) 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Sponsored by: InTrec Software, Inc. 3035 E Topaz Circle Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 Voc:602/992-1345 Fax:602/992-0232 ---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]---(CINDYADAMS, 27387, GO COM A2)[EOA][A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |-----------------------------------DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2PRO"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson [UTP]UPGRADE YOUR DELPHI ACCOUNT TO PREMIUM SERVICE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""To upgrade your Delphi access to the Premium service that includes telnetaccess, visit .Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2965, GO COM A2P)[EOA][MFB]GET_MARK and SET_MARK FROM BASIC""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""There's a long-standing programming project of mine that I set asidebecause I couldn't figure out how to do something correctly. I want to readand write to a DIF file from BASIC, and it would help to know how manybytes I have read into the file. From what little I know about the MLI,that's done by calling GET_MARK. SET_MARK would also be useful.Does anyoneknow of a BASIC external command for performing these two tricks? Or couldyou suggest something else, like how to POKE the necessary machine languageinto page 3 of memory?-Gareth(GARETH, 2942, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""If you're using binary functions to write data into the file, you cansimply do:print chr$(4);"bsave datafile,aBBBB,bPPPP,lLLLL"This will save the data at address BBBB into the file, starting at the bytePPPP in the file, and will write LLLL bytes.If it's a text file, the POSITION command should do the trick.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2948, GO COM A2P)<<<<<"""""OK, Sheppy. I hadn't thought of the POSITION command, but I see here thatit moves the pointer forward (only forward) a certain number of fields. SoI could, for example, close the DIF file, use POSITION to zip to whateverfield I wanted to change, and do ordinary WRITE and PRINT commands, maybewith a semicolon after the print to avoid introducing an extra return? Hmm,I'll have to experiment, but that sounds very good, indeed. You may havesolved the problem. Thanks! :-)-Gareth(GARETH, 2955, GO COM A2P)[EOA][SPB]SAVING PATHNAMES IN BASIC"""""""""""""""""""""""""For a long time I've been wondering how to go about saving somewhere inmemory the pathname of my programs, so that I can come back and access theprograms as needed, while still retaining the same prefix which points tothe specific data files.For example, if my programs are saved on the hard drive in "/H2/PROGRAMS/"and my data is in "/H2/DATA/FILE1/" for example, I'll have the prefix setto "/H2/DATA/FILE1/". How do I store the pathname "/H2/PROGRAMS/" so that Ican return to where I have my programs.Yes, I can write the program pathname into the actual lines of BASIC, butthen if I change my program location to something else, like"/H2/NEW.PROGRAMS/" I'd have to go into all of the programs and change thelines of programming. That isn't efficient.Should I write a text file on the disc which would contain the pathname ??But where would it be written -- in what pathname ?Or, is there a way to POKE the pathname into some memory location, and thenchange the HI or LO MEM locations so that the pathname is protected frombeing overwritten or erased by other programs being written but still ableto be retrieved by PEEK commands ??If this is the way to go how would I do this ??ThanksStan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 2951, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""This is off the top of my head, but couldn't you write a text file thatsays something like:print chr$(4);"prefix /hard1/subdir1/" and have your other program EXECthat text file?Alternatively, if you have a number of variables that you want saved, whynot use a STORE command to save them all, then a RESTORE command to, um,restore them?-Gareth(GARETH, 2956, GO COM A2P)<<<<<"""""You could just use the PREFIX command in your BASIC code directly. Beenages since I did it, but it does work. :)Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2957, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""Yes, the PREFIX command will work -- up to a point. That's what I'm doingnow.But the problem is:-- pathname is set to Path 1-- I use the PREFIX command to set the prefix to Path 2-- But once the prefix has been set to Path 2, how do I recall what Path 1 is ??All variables are cleared with the RUN of a new program.Stan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 2960, GO COM A2P)<<<<<"""""You can use the PREFIX command to find out what the current prefix is.That's what the example program I gave does.So:10 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX"20 INPUT OLDPFX$30 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX newpath"...90 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX ";OLDPFX$This will get the current prefix and save it in OLDPFX$, then switch theprefix to newpath. You can then do whatever you need to do, and line 90will restore the original prefix.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2966, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""The example I gave is in another thread so you might have missed it; thenew one I just gave above is a better one.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2967, GO COM A2P)<<<<<"""""> You can use the PREFIX command to find out what the current prefix is.> That's what the example program I gave does.> So:> 10 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX"> 20 INPUT OLDPFX$> 30 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX newpath"...> 90 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX ";OLDPFX$> This will get the current prefix and save it in OLDPFX$, then switch the> prefix to newpath. You can then do whatever you need to do, and line 90> will restore the original prefix.Yes, but if there is a line:40 PRINT CHR$(4);"RUN";OLDPFX$;"PROGRAM.1"this RUN command wipes out all old values, and line 90 will crash sinceOLDPFX$ has not been defined.This is exactly my problem. The NEWPATH prefix will determine the pathwhere all future disk commands will go. But I want to be able to come backto the OLDPFX in order to run Program.2, for example.ThanksStan Sztaba(SSZTABA, 2968, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""OK, I didn't realize you were trying to save these across running otherprograms. There are a few ways you can handle this.First, you could reserve an area of memory among your programs in which youstuff the old prefix, like:10 REM Save prefix20 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX"30 INPUT PFX$40 L = LEN(PFX$)50 POKE 768,L60 FOR I=1 TO L70 POKE 768+I,ASC(MID$(PFX$,I,1))80 NEXT IThen you can restore the prefix from the subprogram using:10 REM Restore prefix20 PFX$=""30 L = PEEK(768)40 FOR I=1 TO L50 PFX$=PFX$+CHR$(PEEK(768+I))60 NEXT I70 PRINT CHR$(4);"PREFIX ";PFX$As long as the subprogram doesn't use the memory in page $300, this willwork fine.The other option is to create a temporary file containing the prefixstring.Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net(SHEPPY, 2970, GO COM A2P)<<<<<"""""> All variables are cleared with the RUN of a new program.If you use CHAIN instead, variables won't clear and the values are usedbetween programs.Geoff(SISGEOFF, 2972, GO COM A2P)>>>>>"""""In message 'How save pathnames ??' SSZTABA said:> For a long time I've been wondering how to go about saving somewhere in> memory the pathname of my programs, so that I can come back and access> the programs as needed, while still retaining the same prefix which> points to the specific data files.Here is my take on the situation. You seem to have a number of programsthat call each other in a certain directory and they access data in anotherdirectory and you want to be able to access the data and still be able tojump around between programs.It seems to me the easiest way to do this is to not change the prefix atall. If all your programs that will call each other will always be in thesame directory and you don't change the prefix, then you can just do aPRINT CHR$(4);"RUN PROGRAM2" which will run PROGRAM2 from the currentprefix setting. To access your data, don't change the prefix. Instead use acommand like PRINT CHR$(4);"OPEN";DP$;"DATA1" where DP$ is the prefix ofyour data directory (ie. /HD/DATA/). If you are using variables for thedata file's name you could just add the prefix of the data directory to thebeginning of that variable. Instead of DF$="DATA1" you could do aDF$=DP$+"DATA1" and use the command PRINT CHR$(4);"OPEN";DF$ to open it.If you need to remember the data directory between programs you could justwrite it to a text file and read it in at the beginning of each program.PRINT CHR$(4);"OPEN DATADIR":PRINT CHR$(4);"WRITE DATADIR":PRINT DP$:PRINTCHR$(4);"CLOSE DATADIR" to create the file and PRINT CHR$(4);"OPENDATADIR":PRINT CHR$(4);"READ DATADIR":INPUT DP$:PRINT CHR$(4);"CLOSEDATADIR" to get the directory data.However, there are better ways to have multiple programs interact with eachother.First, as has been mentioned, there is the STORE and RESTORE commands.Instead of just doing a PRINT CHR$(4);"RUN PROGRAM2" do a PRINTCHR$(4);"STORE VARS" command first and then do a PRINT CHR$(4);"RESTOREVARS" at the beginning of PROGRAM2 to get those variables back. This wayyou can transfer the value of DP$ as well as any other variables that youmight need.Another way to do this sort of thing is with the CHAIN command. Instead ofusing RUN to start the next program, use PRINT CHR$(4);"CHAIN PROGRAM2".This will run PROGRAM2 but leaves all the variables that were set in thefirst program in memory so PROGRAM2 can access them. However, there havebeen a number of bugs with the CHAIN command in the past and I'm notentirely sure they've all been fixed. Someone else would have to comment onthat.By the way, if you do want to know the directory that the current programwas started from, you can use the method already posted. PRINTCHR$(4);"PREFIX":INPUT PF$ If you need to pass this directory on to thesecond program (because it is in another directory or something) you havethe three choices I gave you above to pass the information. However, havingprogram segments in multiple directories isn't considered good programmingpractice. :-) Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum(JBLAKENEY, 2973, GO COM A2P)[EOA][TEL]------------------------------- Apple II USER GROUPS TELECONFERENCE|------------------------------------By Lyle Syverson Two Apple II user groups held a joint meeting on Thursday, April 13,2000. This happened even though the two groups were more than a hundredmiles apart during the meeting. The Aurora Area Apple Core of Aurora, Illinois, USA moved theirmeeting to Kinkos in the neighboring town of Naperville to take advantageof the Kinkos Video Conferencing facility. At the same time theAppleByters of the Quad Cities in Illinois/Iowa, USA met at the VideoConferencing facility at Augustana College in Rock Island. (One of theQuad Cities.) Conversation included talk of Kfest, software used, user grouplibraries, and suggestions for a joint meeting sometime in the future withboth groups at the same location about half way between the home bases.[EOA][NFE]-------------------------------OFF LINE READERS... NOT FOR EVERYONE|------------------------------------By Lyle Syverson The Laser 128 with 384K of RAM and one 5.25 disk drive was my firstonline computer. People were using OLRs (Off Line Readers) on GEnie.There was no extra disk space or RAM for me to use an OLR. So I developed some bare-bones scripts and learned my way aroundGEnie. TIC (Talk is Cheap) would stop and save the buffer to disk when thebuffer was full. There was room on that 140K disk for a 40K buffer save inaddition to the software necessary to run TIC! Then while the buffer was filling for the second time I would take outthat disk and substitute an empty disk named TIC... room enough on that onefor three buffer saves! Then offline to read all that, write replies, etc. So I got in thehabit of wondering around GEnie that way and liked it. I have used thesame approach to getting around Delphi. I think of using an OLR as being like a bus trip. You get there andget the job done using someone elses guidance. Using bare-bones scriptslets you change your mind as to where you are going and when. More like anautomobile trip with you in the driver's seat. I was able to get an accelerator for my IIgs because I was using thosescripts. I had set in motion the script to visit seven Delphi forums,collecting new messages at each stop. When the display stopped for amoment in the A2 forum I noticed that someone had posted a message offeringa ZipGS for sale. I aborted the script and wrote up an email response tothat message and mailed it while I was still online. I finally was thefirst in line to accept an offer of an accelerator for sale! So there you have it... Some people thrive on the use of an OLR.Others, like myself, like to get around by ourself.[EOA][INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi onlineservice (GO CUS 11).This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computersusing Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2000 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.net.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do notnecessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services,Syndicomm, Inc., Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages arereprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permissionfrom the individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc.,Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy orsuitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right toedit all letters and copy.Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without theexpressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer usergroups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties maywrite the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[EOF] .