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The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         :                                                       :         :    Don't play "stupid with me... I'm better at it!    :         :                                                       :         :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 :::::::::::::[EOA][OPN]------------------------------                     OPENING PITCH |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                [thelamp@sheppyware.net]                   WE ARE WHERE OUR HEARTS WILL TAKE US                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Yes, I belong to the Hawai'i Macintosh and Apple Users' Society, butno, I don't go to many of their functions.  Okay, I go to maybe four ayear, but this was one I had to see.     Long-time Apple fanatic Bryan Villados brought out what he calls his"Apple Museum" for a day, for a trip down memory lane for most but a ridedown main street for the Apple II faithful.     From photos of an Apple I to a real live Apple ][+, //e, //c, IIgs, aLisa and a bunch of Macs, from the original to the 20th Anniversary, Bryanpulled out all the stops on a forty foot display.  I'll get a chance tocompare Bryan's museum to the Apple II Museum when I run up to San Diegoand hang out with Tony Diaz pre-KFest in July, but for a few hours on a hotSunday in October, I was where I had rarely been anywhere but online inmany years.     I was home.     Thanks to Bryan for putting this on, and for standing by what the restof us believed.     When we said Apple II Forever, we really meant it.                                [*] [*] [*]     I Went Home Department: I announced last month that the December issueof _The Lamp!_ would be the last under my editorship.     Coincidently, in this issue we have the first published Apple IIarticle by Lyle Syverson.     Or maybe it's not much of a coincidence.  You see, Lyle is The ChosenOne, the person who will succeed me as editor of _The Lamp!_.     I plan to continue my publishing duties and do a (hopefully) monthlycolumn.  And I plan to do one more thing as well--usher in the nextgeneration of Apple II writers.  Welcome.Ryanthelamp@sheppyware.netASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA][OPN]------------------------------     A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |-----------------------------------Checking out A2 on Delphi"""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                [thelamp@sheppyware.net]       * The Heat Is On              * Miscellanea                     * Rumor Mill                            * Public Postings                                        * Best Of The Best                              THE HEAT IS ON                              """"""""""""""     [*] Entertainment Software      ....... Silvern Castle Keeps Going     [*] Apple Operating System      ....... Clones And ProDOS 8     [*] Hardware Hacker             ....... More SCSI And More SCSI     [*] Vendors & Tech Support      ....... Slow Printing From AW5?     [*] Telecommunications          ....... Oops! Modem MGR Manual Fixed!                                MISCELLANEA                                """""""""""HOW TO DECODE MIME FILES   There's a program for the Apple ][GS called""""""""""""""""""""""""   'StolenBase' that can translate MIME-encodedfiles. Actually, you have a choice of an NDA or a standalone application.Both are here in the A2 database. As I recall, the most recent version ofSpectrum will also handle MIME.With StolenBase (which I generally use, since ANSITerm is my preferredApple II communications program), it is generally sufficient to save theletter containing the text under its own file name. StolenBase can usuallydetect the MIME headers and decode the file. Sometimes, with multiple MIMEenclosures in a file, it may be necessary to edit the mail message toeliminate extraneous stuff before StolenBase can work. Not really difficultto do.MIME files are encoded so that 8-bit data can be sent across systems thatonly support 7-bit data structures. The contents of the encoded file may ormay not be usable on an Apple ][GS. Although there are more options, theseare what I generally use when presented with the contents of a MIME file:Graphics - SuperConvert - can handle GIF or JPEG graphics. For a quick-anddirty look at GIF files, ShowMe! can show some GIF files as well.Text - Generally, MIME-encoded text files are from word processingprograms, sent that way to preserve style information. Unless you get aword processing file that has the text in blocks that you can read (offsetaway from style information), you are pretty much out of luck. The onlyexception would be Rich Text Format (RTF) files. EgoEd 2.0 NDA can do apretty respectable conversion of RTF files, within the limitations of theTeach file format. If the file is not larger than 32K, the RTF translatorfor GraphicWriter III does a bit better job. Early Word 6.0 files wereactually RTF format, so you may get lucky if your correspondent is notusing the most recent version of Word.Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!                       (DZAHNISER, 25892, GO COM A2)>>>>>   MIME files are generally encoded with Base 64 format."""""You will need a mail or other program to receive them, just as you wouldfor any other form of email.But once you have the data on your IIgs, then Spectrum 2.1 and onwards,will extract the encoded data using the built-in decode function from theblack apple menu. It is actually the BinHEX XCMD that is doing the workhere, and it can also handle BinSCII, BinHex 4.0 and UUencode data as well. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 17 Sep 1999 - 313 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 25894, GO COM A2)>>>>>   What I do, since I have a shell account, is let my email program"""""   (pine) decode the mime-formatted file, and then I save it to myhome directory. From there it's a snap to get the file to my //e usingzmodem. :)Later........Howard                         (HKATZ, 25898, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Attached files are actually embedded within the message when it is"""""   sent, so it is all one hunk of text. Although a Mac or PC mailprogram may show and save an encoded file as a separate file, on the IIgsyou will receive it as part of the mail message itself.The BinHQX XCMD will search any given file or text for the unique markersthat start the various encoding methods. It therefore ignores any text ormessage that precedes those markers...If you are using COG 3.x, and reading mail, then you simply click on the'tick' button to automagically decode an attached file. If you areelsewhere in COG, or using Spectrum manually, then just 'copy' and 'paste'the encoded text to a file on disk and point the BinHQX decoder at it... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 21 Sep 1999 - 309 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 26011, GO COM A2)Y2K FOR THE APPLEWORKS CALENDAR   Folks"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""recent mention of the oa-q oa-m INIT in AppleWorks reminds me I have the2000 patch ...so here it is ...APPLEWORKS DESKTOP CALENDAR YEAR '00 COMMAND PATCHfor The AppleWorks Gazettes' Calendar Init-------------------------------------------------------The year is changed to 2000. The month of February is changed to contain 29days (a leap year) and the starting weekday of each month is changed to theappropriate weekday for 2000.Use your favorite block editor (e.g. ProSel's Zap/Block Warden) and followthe file 'I.CALENDAR' (a 1-block file) to change the following bytes:BYTE TO COMMENT----- -- -------$0010 $30 00 }$0011 $30 00 } FILE NAME$004D $32 2 }$004E $30 0 }$004F $30 0 }$0020 $30 0 } 2000$0093 $1D 29 Days$009E $32 Jan - Sat$009F $22 Feb - Tue$00A0 $26 Mar - Wed$00A1 $32 Apr - Sat$00A2 $1E May - Mon$00A3 $2A Jun - Thu$00A4 $32 Jul - Sat$00A5 $22 Aug - Tue$00A6 $2E Sep - Fri$00A7 $1A Oct - Sun$00A8 $26 Nov - Wed$00A9 $2E Dec - FriThen write the block back to the disk.PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO THIS.That should do the trick for 2000.Kevin Noonangswombat@delphi.com                       (GSWOMBAT, 26122, GO COM A2)THE ORIGINAL SWEET16   For the sake of completeness, I should mention that""""""""""""""""""""   sweet-16 was *originally* a 16-bit virtual CPUinvented by Steve "Woz" Wozniak, with an interpreter written in 6502assembly for 8-bit Apple IIs. Sort of like a Java bytecode interpreteryears before Java was thought up.                          (KWS, 26221, GO COM A2)HISTORICAL NOTES ON THE CIS LIBRARIES   Interesting side issue with the"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Compuserve libraries (and there area few former/present Compuserve regulars around who can correct me if Imisspeak, considering I was only there for a few months):My understanding was that the Compuserve libraries weren't permanentrepositories, but rather were LUFO based, meaning that if files weren'tvery popular they were eventually expunged.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                       (RSUENAGA, 26198, GO COM A2)>>>>>   I think you're right about files that weren't popular on CIS fading"""""   away, but I also seem to remember that there was a way to "protect"files also. For example, most if not all of the NAUG PD disks were uploadedto Compuserve, and didn't disappear, even tho most of them probably weren'tdownloaded on a regular basis.None of the files I uploaded ever disappeared either - I guess they wereaccessed just enough.....Later..........Howard                         (HKATZ, 26208, GO COM A2)>>>>>   In theory, any file that was not downloaded for a year was"""""   automatically deleted. The "automatic" part of that didn't work allthat reliably, but some management types would survey the libraries andgive the sysops grief if "proper maintainence" wasn't done. (So, there wasa "bot" that was supposed to expunge old files, and sysops were supposed tocheck their libraries and make sure that that was properly done.)I was a sysop there for a while, but I never worked in the MAUG areas, soI'm not sure how serious the guy who was above Neil was about that. Mypoint is that it WAS CIS policy to delete files in the libraries, and itwas a policy that they took seriously.As I recall, some of the MAUG librarians made a point of downloading olderfiles on a regular basis, just to keep the "fresh" for management and bots.Gary R. Utter                         (UTTER, 26215, GO COM A2)PLANNING THE FUTURE   I think that people get carried away with what might"""""""""""""""""""   be possible here. Both Bernie and Ernie have takengreat pains to 'emulate' a real IIgs. That means that 'new features' willnot be, and should never be added to the IIgs side, so it changes whatappears as a 'real' IIgs to software.It would be OK to add slot emulation, so 'plug'-in' software could emulateplug in cards, such as the Second Sight card, but it would certainly not beappropriate to build in such emulation directly. The IIgs never had such anscreen emulation, so why should an emulator?As a programmer, I expect a standard IIgs environment when my programs run,not some other computer that might crash my software... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 1 Sep 1999 - 329 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 25499, GO COM A2)NON-UNITED STATES APPLE II USERS   Well.... during my IIGS time I've also""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   bought almost any piece of softwarewhich was developed and sold. Some of those programs I couldn't use, eitherbecause I didn't really have a need for it, or because it was just unusableoutside of the US...All this fine IIGS software which is/was developed now/recently is severalyears late. Now the base for selling such software has eroded and isn'tthere any more.But the programmers contributed to the demise of the installed IIGS base,too. Was there any program which was available in a language other thanEnglish? Yes, there was one... Quick Click Calc, the ONLY exception. Wasthere a program which didn't do all things the American way? Worst exampleto name: Addressed for Success...Had the Apple IIGS programmers realized there are countries in existenceoutside of the US, and had made international programs, there would be manymore active IIGS users left nowadays.This is just my not so humble opinion... your opinion may differ...UdoCeterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam                        (UDOHUTH, 26082, GO COM A2)>>>>>   We knew there were Apple users outside the US, but we never had any"""""   real idea of how many, or how to reach them. Part of the blame forthat probably lies with Apple, but most of it has to do withcommunications.In the days when the GS was in production, was as thriving a platform as itever got to be, the number of European users who were in contact with theUS community was vanishingly small.I knew of TWO who actually were able/willing to communicate with us.I'm not trying to lay blame here, I'm trying to say that it was not merechauvinism that kept the communities separate, nor even the languagebarriers, but the fact that there was so little communication with overseasusers that most people didn't even realize there was a MARKET there.The Apple II community existed then as it does now, almost entirely online, and only CompuServe connected to overseas users at ALL.Gary R. Utter                         (UTTER, 26086, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Another point of view..."""""The release of NiftySpell was held up for several months so that theprogrammer could add foreign language support.When I demoed NiftySpell at Kfest, I was floored by the question: "How wellwill NiftySpell work when spell checking words in Swedish?"How the heck would I or the programmer know how well NiftySpell worked withSwedish words? ;-)I picked myself up off the floor, and when I got home, suggested to theprogrammer that if there was a way to make NiftySpell work a little betterwith foreign languages, we should go out of our way to do it.We did. And now, Martin Landhage can now use NiftySpell when he is usinghis IIGS to write in his native language.I think that with NiftySpell, we more than "went the extra kilometer" tohelp our non-native English speaking IIGS friends.Joe Kohn                       (JOE_KOHN, 26096, GO COM A2)>>>>>   generally, i think udo is right. while, in the beginning, it might"""""   have been understandable computers essentially were englishrelated, after it wasn't that way. and for sure (read mitch's msg, he'sright on this IMHO) it's an apple responsibility, there was so few foreignlanguage marketing around the apple. one of the reasons, of M$ success is,they offered, early, localized versions of their software, while OTOH agerman user still had to stay with Lissner' AppleWorks 1.2 german (i thinkthere are no later german versions, but not sure. Udo?)in the 80s, for many reasons, it was difficult to communicate with americanuser groups from here: we had to learn the language, we had to strugglewith enormous phone costs (because of telecomm monopolies) etc. etc. butthere was a user base. btw, just a simple question: who of you americanapple II folks here knows a second, third etc. language. and then, appleeurope forced the mac, offering localized new software, while apple IIremained essentially an english centric product. you cannot go to germanschools, offering computers and software, unable to speak and write noteven the localized alphabeta. i still remember, i spent hours and hours tofigure out, how to print out from an apple ][ german umlauts *AND* thestandard ascii set :)). not to speak of the italian and french accents ineeded for my work (as translator). multiscribe on an apple //c was a -painfully slow - way around, but without footnotes, index etc., whilewordstar cpm was expensive and largely outdated.anyway, it is at it is, due to apple company policy. but, nevertheless,curiously, just a european developer created the most modern or better theonly *NEW* apple II over the last few years :))best regards, ulrich[ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.3 ]                       (UHAUSMANN, 26110, GO COM A2)>>>>>   The sheer cost of connecting online to the rest of the world was"""""   the main deterrent for us in the UK. About the only thing we couldget the majority of Apple users here to do, was to connect to our local BBSsystems. But even then, many users saw that as far too expensive, andrelied on the User Group or on magazines for contacts.It was only in more recent times, when Compuserve moved round the world andgave us access at local rates, did we see more people get online. When theA2 RoundTables on GEnie started up, it was impossible for us to connect toGenie locally, and in fact GEnie made it impossible for us to actuallyjoin! Only later, did GEnie let people outside the US and Canada join theirsystem, but we still needed expensive routes through GEIS to get to it.It is for that very reason, that I have just pulled the plug on Geniemyself, as the cost of the PSS account I need to connect to GEIS, is nolonger cost effective for the two or three people left on Genie... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 27 Sep 1999 - 303 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 26141, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Little known fact, you weren't supposed to be able to join at all."""""   Someone made a mistake that left a loophole open for you guys toget in, and a bunch of the sysops managed to persuade GE not to close theloophole.(We TRIED to get reasonable connect rates for overseas users, since itliterally cost GE no more to provide access to their own network in Europethan it did here. But they just gave us an odd look....)Gary R. Utter                         (UTTER, 26155, GO COM A2)>>>>>   In fact the only reason I could afford to access GEnie from the UK,"""""   was that I was given a local NUA for GEIS that worked in Britain.This meant that I could access GEnie through a local PSS NUA instead of theprohibitively expensive IPSS NUA that I was supposed to use. I never didsee that local NUA advertised anywhere, and it is still active severalyears later.Access through a local PSS NUA is charged per minute, access through anIPSS NUA is charged by the packet! But that is all now a memory to me, as Ihave closed the account down as of the end of this month. The Internetrather changed things when it came along, and these ancient methods ofconnecting are now no longer needed! Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 28 Sep 1999 - 302 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 26159, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Actually, there was an online service called Mnematics that had"""""   overseas connections long before CIS did. They had links to all thelarge European networks in France, the UK and Germany, and later expandedto other parts of the world. For a while they had an active Apple IIsection, tho I was always partial to the Politics SIG (Well, just because Iran it.... :) )They stopped being a videotex service when they and Sprintnet had a fallingout, tho they still survive in the NY area as an ISP.Later.............Howard                         (HKATZ, 26162, GO COM A2)I HEAR CONAN HAS NICE FILES   That's correct. If you know what you want,"""""""""""""""""""""""""""   I'll see if it's in the Genie archives andupload it here. I am considering uploading a listing of all the files tofacilitate filling requests, but I'm not quite sure how to do it yet (itneeds some editing and it's a =huge= list.)To tell the truth, I think we (the A2 staff) were hoping that Delphi wouldeventually make its databases available via ftp, but that hasn't happenedand it probably won't now that the Web side is the primary focus (only the"old" text side forums even have databases, and they're only accessible onthe text side.) We are exploring alternative ways to make the Genie filesavailable somehow. Stay tuned. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Sep 30, 1999 2:36:12 pm [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2] -- Is Darth Vader YOUR father, too?                        (TONYW1, 26216, GO COM A2)WHAT RUNS BERNIE AND ALTERNATIVE SERIAL PORTS   Bernie runs on any Power"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Macintosh, imac, iBook,four-digit Performa or PowerBook, four-digit Duo, any other Mac withPowerPC upgrade card, or Mac clone.If you would like to reuse 800kB disks, please keep in mind that currentMacintosh models (excluding current PowerBooks with built-in 3.5" drives Ibelieve), do not support 800kB disks with external 3.5" USB drives.If you would like to use Bernie's serial communication, be advised thatcurrent Macintosh computers, except PowerBooks, do not come with a serialport. You can, however, use the Power Macintosh G3 internal modem withBernie. You can also add serial port connectivity by means of a third-partyserial card (MegaWolf, for example) or USB-to-serial converter boxes.Third-party additions are usually untested on our part.If you do not really need the latest killer system and would like to save afew bucks, the best "Bernie" systems are beige Power Mac G3s. They support800kB disks and serial port communication.I hope that helps.regards,Henrik Woof Gudatwoof woof                        (GUDATH, 25541, GO COM A2)>>>>>   I dunno, I kinda like my PowerMac 8500 with 364.5 MHz G3 upgrade"""""   card. . . it'll do what the beige does, albeit sometimes a littleslower, and it'll run BeOS and Ernie too :)- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                       (RSUENAGA, 25542, GO COM A2)>>>>>   I can tell you that the Belkin USB serial adapter works perfectly"""""   as an external modem connection for Bernie. That's how I've got myUSR Courier hooked up to the G3.Wow, now I have to be careful about what I type. USB...USR... :) - Tony                        (TONYW1, 25565, GO COM A2)>>>>>   How do you get Bernie to recognize the internal modem in a"""""   PowerBook G3? I can't see a preference to set.                      (BINARY_BEAR, 25567, GO COM A2)<<<<<   Bernie will show the internal modem as part of the "port" menus."""""   (The port selection pop-up menus are in Bernie's preferences window-> Communications panel.) I don't quite remember what the it was called - Ithink it will show up as "internal modem" or so. Bernie will list there allthe serial connections it can find, be in by means of a third-party serialcard, built-in ports, internal modems or whatever.Internal modem support is given when the modem is implemented in form of aserial port. Most modems are, even though recent Macs don't have ageneral-purpose serial port. The internal communications port is oftennothing but a differently wired serial port.There are modems implementing the Rockwell Protocol. These modems are notcompatible with Bernie as some processing is done in the CPU (similar tothe GeoPort.) Do not confuse them with "Rockwell Chip Set" - modems with aRockwell chip set work fine, those with a Rockwell protocol do not.regards,Henrik Woof Gudatwoof woof                        (GUDATH, 25568, GO COM A2)DOES SOFTDISK PUBLISHING STILL HAVE THE APPLE II ISSUES?   The last time I""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   wanted to ordera back issue, I ran into the same thing you did. The web site doesn'tacknowledge that the Apple II SoftDisk products ever existed. However, whenI called them they were very helpful. Does their web site have theirtoll-free number? If so, you can call them and ask what might still beavailable. I would have to dig for the number at this point.BTW - If you do get to the point of ordering, make sure you say _several_times that you want the _APPLE_IIGS_ SoftDisk issues. The first time Iordered over the phone after they discontinued the line, they sent me thecorresponding issue numbers of their IBM PC product.Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!                       (DZAHNISER, 25606, GO COM A2)DOES MARINETTI HELP A POOR PHONE LINE CONNECTION?   Nope, if you can't"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   maintain a goodconnection using a standard serial connection, a TCP/IP connection tends tobe overall worse since a lot more data is sent and received.Assuming your hardware is good, the problem is probably a bad modem initstring. This is most typical problem for poor connections (TCP/IP orotherwise). I've found that only the "sharp" support staff can track thesedown.Geoff                       (SISGEOFF, 25858, GO COM A2)CAN I TRANSFER MULTIPLE FILES OVER A NULL MODEM CONNECTION?   I don't use"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Windowsexcept at the office, so I can't help there, but any of the modern IIgstelecomm programs that support ZModem (such as Spectrum and ProTERM) can domulti file transfers with ZModem. You could also script them to do multiplefile transfers with other protocols.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                       (RSUENAGA, 25722, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Any communications programs that support Y-modem batch or Z-modem"""""   should work.Your best bet would be to get a program on your IIgs that supportsautomatic Z-modem receives. Spectrum and ProTERM both support this and I'msure there are others. This way, all you have to do is run yourcommunications program on your IIgs, go to the PC and tell HyperTerminalwhat files you want transferred and the IIgs will automatically startdownloading them. No need to even leave the PC so you can transfer filesone at a time or in batches.Another option would be to set up GNO/ME on your IIgs and log into it usingHyperTerminal on your PC. You can then initiate X, Y or Z-modem sends usingGNO/ME's rz command. Again, no need to leave the PC so you can transferfiles to your heart's content. :-)Yet another option would be to set up one of your machines in "host" modeor run BBS software. The only problem here is that most of these "host"modes or BBS packages require a RING signal from the modem followed by aCONNECT signal. This can sometimes by simulated by typing these words in ifyou are using a null modem setup. At any rate, if you can get the programto pick up, you will be using a BBS type of interface and you can choose toupload or download files to/from the host machine. Which one you usedepends on which machine is doing the hosting. PC hosting, use the IIgs todownload files; IIgs hosting, use the PC to upload files.I hope this helps. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro                       (JBLAKENEY, 25726, GO COM A2)>>>>>   The Modem MGR package now found in the telcommunications database"""""   handles zmodem as well as x and ymodem transfers. With Zmodem youcan do batch file receives, and batch sends (tho you have to set up a batchlist 1st -  not hard, but not as easy.Later..........Howard                         (HKATZ, 25727, GO COM A2)WHAT THE HECK DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS?   Well, with thanks to David Empson"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   for explaining this oncomp.sys.apple2, here is a quick breakdown of the connectors.   - 1st letter is the shape of the connector   - 2nd letter is the physical size of the connector   - the number after these letters is the number of pins in the connectorHere are some examples of connectors:   DA-15 is the standard IIgs RGB connector.   DB-25 is the standard connector on external modems and PC parallel         connectors.   DC-37 are PC external floppy connectors.   DD-50 are old SCSI connectors like the ones on the Sider hard drives.   DE-9 is now the standard for PC serial connectors.   DE-15 is the standard VGA/SVGA connectors.Notice that the PC has two connectors that are the same shape and same sizebut have different number of pins in them. The DE-15 just has more pins inthe same amount of space as a DE-9.I hope this helps clear things up. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro                       (JBLAKENEY, 25963, GO COM A2)MORE ON TELNET   "telnet -8 -E delphi.com"""""""""""""""-8 specifies an 8-bit data path on both incoming and outgoing data. Thisshould be good enough for most telnet clients, but apparently some (older)clients only setup an 8-bit path on incoming data with this option.-L specifies an 8-bit data path for outgoing data. This is needed by some(older) telnets that don't support -8 for both incoming and outgoing data.This ensures an 8-bit connection in both directions.-E suppresses the escape character. This is usually necessary to get Zmodemtransfers to work properly. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Sat Sep 18, 1999 4:25:47 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2] -- Have you got all the stuffing up one end?                        (TONYW1, 25917, GO COM A2)>>>>>   About telnet commands -"""""The ISP that I use for my Apple II telnet needs uses the following syntax: telnet delphi.com binaryI do have a bit of a problem with Zmodem uploads (lots of errors) but thedownload side is impressively trouble-free.Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth)Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue!                       (DZAHNISER, 25948, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Being a little further away from the Delphi servers than most of"""""   you, and thus my Internet connection has to navigate the slew ofsatellites in the stratosphere, I find Zmodem is very unreliable through aTelnet connection to my ISP.Although it is very slow due to Delphi's poor implementation of Kermit, Ifind Kermit works just fine for me.You just need to experiment with the various protocols and see which oneworks best for your particular setup. You will also find that the time ofday, or Internet traffic jam conditions, also are a factor in this. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 20 Sep 1999 - 310 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                        (EWANNOP, 25965, GO COM A2)>>>>>   If you see "Telenet", then it's Sprintnet (which used to be called"""""   "Telenet").Joe Kohn's Shareware Solutions II (the early ones) have the best infoavailable on using shell accounts.I wrote a rather extensive article on telnetting to Delphi in the February1998 issue of _The Lamp!_ (no, I don't do this for my health) as well, andlooking at that article tonight, it seems the information is only slightlydated.As Joe said, shell accounts are becoming rarer and more difficult to find,with Primenet's announcement and Concentric's discontinuing shell access.At this point, the best way to get a shell account may be to make your own:combine a high speed method of access (such as a cable modem or *DSL link)with a Linux or NetBSD or FreeBSD or (fill in your preferred UNIX or clonehere) and put a null modem cable between it and your Apple II. After that,you'll have higher speed comm access than you would through a modem, nobusy signals, no need for a second phone line, and only yourself to blamefor old shells :-)- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                       (RSUENAGA, 25934, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Keep in mind the differences. As Ryan said, Telenet is what's not"""""   called Sprintnet--part of the public data network. This consists ofdialup nodes located in (usually) metropolitan areas, that will connectyour computer to another system across their own network.Telnet is an internet term that involves issuing the command and thenconnecting to the remote system as if you were logged directly in to it,especially useful for shell system users.So--one is a commercial service, and the other is an internet protocol.Clear as mud, I hope. :)later..........Howard                         (HKATZ, 25973, GO COM A2)                                RUMOR MILL                                """"""""""THE SKINNY ON SEQUENTIAL   Today I called Seq Net and asked for the""""""""""""""""""""""""   manager. I got a Joseph M. Yandrofski andchatted with him. Here is the scoop on Apple II hardware:He is going to have ONE more run of RamFasts when he gets 200 orders.He wouldn't tell me how close he is to 200 but he said to order now if Iwanted one, implying it will be soon.He is willing to have ONE more run of Second Sights made if he gets 200pre-orders (actually 199 because I put my name on the list :)The Second Sights will cost $159 US + Shipping + insurance. He was shorthanded on manning the phones today so he couldn't check actual inventoryfor other items, or if they had any. That is it, though. He said when theRamFasts are gone (and Second Sights if he gets an order for 200) they areout of the hardware business. He also emphasized PLACE YOUR ORDERS ASQUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT ONE. He also said to post that he has oneIomega Zip Drive left that he'll let go for a "reasonable" price, but callif you want that.Erichabanero                       (HABANERO, 25772, GO COM A2)>>>>>   There are two things in this situation that is substantially better"""""   than when the Zip GSX's disappeared:1) People have notice. If you want one, order now. Don't be surprised when   they're gone.2) At least for the RamFAST, the Focus makes a reasonable alternative.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                       (RSUENAGA, 25785, GO COM A2)NOT DEAD YET   The AppleWorks Gazette isn't dead, but it isn't around""""""""""""   either. My partner Chris Serreau disappeared (literally) 2years ago, and I've not been able to find out what happened to him. Aroundthe same time I got downsized, and currently I work 3 part-time jobs tryingto keep afloat.Chris was the technical expert between the two of us, and supplied half ofthe material that went into TAG. I came up with the rest. I simply don'thave the resources to do an 800k disk by myself, and requests tosubscribers for material for publication came up with a grand total of onearticle.I still have hopes that I can start it up again, but it HAS been a coupleof years, and that hope fades daily. I feel I've let people who subscribeddown, and it's not something I want to have happened. Maybe if I can getback to full-time employment status I might be able to do something aboutit, but the energy and resources just aren't there right now.Later................Howard                         (HKATZ, 25918, GO COM A2)                              PUBLIC POSTINGS                              """""""""""""""SHEPPYWARE APPLE II DEVELOPMENT ON INDEFINITE SABBATICAL   Important""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   SheppyWareAnnouncementFor various reasons, I have decided to suspend development on all my AppleII projects indefinitely. I'm tired and it's just not worth the effortanymore.I still intend to release WebWorks GS as a downloadable package next month,and this announcement doesn't affect the prices of any of my productsalready available.I will complete the final two articles in the GSoft BASIC series forJuiced.GS (bringing the total number up to six; the fourth is coming in thenext issue, and is already finished). And unless Byte Works cancels it, Iwill complete the work I'm doing for them.The "Shadowlands", "DiskMaker", and "ImageMaker Deluxe" projects arepostponed indefinitely.I'm not saying I'm leaving the Apple II world forever, I'm just taking abreak to see if my life gets any easier without the hassles from the selectfew.The percentage of Apple II users that treat Apple II programmers like dirthas risen to the point where I can't bring myself to tolerate it anymore.I'm just not having enough fun writing the code to put up with the amountof cruel and unwarranted remarks I get from just a handful of people.Consider: there are about 50 people that buy my products and areappreciative (and I love them all for it!). Then there are around 5 peoplethat are really unpleasant and occasionally abusive. That ratio (1 in 10!)is way too high for this to be worth it anymore.If I find that I just can't live without writing Apple II code, I'll pickit back up, and maybe that'll happen, but as it stands, I just don't feellike it's worth my trouble.I do plan to continue to hang around A2, supporting my existing softwareand participating in the friendly chats that go on here.My congratulations to Dr. Tom and his friends for their victory. Enjoy.My heartfelt thanks to all of you that have been supportive for all theseyears. I consider you all to be my friends.---Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net                        (SHEPPY, 26223, GO COM A2)WE'RE SQUEEZING YOUR JUICED AS FAST AS WE CAN   GreetinGS,"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""There will be a bit of a delay in getting the September '99 issue ofJuiced.GS into the mail. The issue is very near completion, but unforeseenreal-life circumstances have slowed the process somewhat, and I will be inDenver, Colorado, the rest of this week (15th thru 19th) for a NationalConference of Editorial Writers Convention. I had hoped to have the issueready for the mail before this trip, but things didn't quite work out.Work will resume next Monday on the upcoming issue, and it should only takea few days to complete once I can get back at it.My apologies for the delay .... Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs                       (JUICEDGS, 25841, GO COM A2)LAST CALL FOR WEBWORKS GS MANUALS   An important WebWorks GS announcement:"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Shareware Solutions II is now offering WebWorks GS at $10 per copy. Thisincludes the disk and printed manual. Once Joe is out of stock, WebWorks GSprinted manuals will no longer be available (unless Joe decides to sellthem on his own), because I'm going to begin distributing it entirelyonline.If you want a printed WWGS manual, buy now, or forever hold your peace.---Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net                        (SHEPPY, 25796, GO COM A2)FOR TRADE: SHEPPYWARE FOR PPC PCI MAC   If anyone has a Power Mac 7300,"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""    7500, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500, or9600, or UMAX J700 or S900 that you don't need and are considering gettingrid of, please let me know. I can't afford to pay what it's worth, but I'dbe willing to give free software as a portion of the payment for themachine.I don't need drives, I don't need the processor card... Just the case,power supply, memory, and internal cables and parts. The rest I can swap inmyself (I have a dual-processor card I want to use in it). Machines with noRAM would be considered as well.I need the machine to run the PowerPC version of BeOS on, to furtherSweet16 development -- and for some other projects that I can't do easilyright now.If you have a machine like these and are looking to sell, please drop me anemail: {<mailto:sheppy@sheppyware.net> sheppy@sheppyware.net.} Thanks!---Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net                        (SHEPPY, 25834, GO COM A2)SSII BRINGS SOFTWARE TO YOU--ON SALE   Shareware Solutions II's "Support""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Those Who Support The Apple II"Sale, Part 3:One of the best Apple IIGS games ever released - Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS -is now available from Shareware Solutions II for $10. This low cost offeris _for a limited time only_ and to take advantage of this reduced price,your order must be postmarked no later than September 30, 1999.Let's listen to what some notable Apple IIGS users have had to say aboutBrutal Deluxe's LemminGS:Jawaid Bazyar said: "It's awesome, and those who know me know I don't saythis lightly. This is fantastic!"Tony Diaz said: "LemminGS is great! A rare one in my book, it really bringsout the GS in IIgs. I've not seen such smooth animation since TheImmortal."Geoff Weiss said: "The first thing I have to say is this is cool!"If you are not already familiar with this incredible game, a fully playabledemo which includes the first 10 levels of the game, can be downloaded fromthe ground ftp archive at:http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/Games/LemminGSdemo.shkAdditionally, you can read an independent review of Brutal Deluxe'sLemminGS at:http://www.reflexive.net/james/articles/lemmings/index.htmlTo order Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS for only $10, send checks/money orders -postmarked no later than September 30th - to:Shareware Solutions II166 Alpine StSan Rafael, CA 94901Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is supplied on three 3.5" disks, and requires aIIGS with at least 2 megabytes of RAM. A hard drive is recommended but notrequired.Joe Kohnhttp://www.crl.com/~joko                       (JOE_KOHN, 25596, GO COM A2)<<<<<   A week or two ago, it was announced that, if purchased from"""""   Shareware Solutions II, the price of Eric Shepherd's WebWorks GS -an html editor for the Apple IIGS - had been lowered to $10.When the new lower price was announced, it was also stated that onlysubscribers to Shareware Solutions II could purchase it at that specialprice.That restriction is now lifted.Anyone can now purchase WebWorks GS from Shareware Solutions II for $10.To order, send checks or money orders in US funds to: Shareware Solutions II 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 Joe Kohn http://www.crl.com/~joko                       (JOE_KOHN, 25811, GO COM A2)<<<<<   Just a reminder that Shareware Solutions II is now offering a"""""   couple of $10 specials....WebWorks GS, if ordered from SSII, is only $10.Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is now available for $10.The cost of The Apple IIGS Photo CD-ROM is $10.Send checks or money orders, in US funds only, to:Shareware Solutions II166 Alpine StSan Rafael, CA 94901Info on the above software can be found at http://www.crl.com/~jokoJoe                       (JOE_KOHN, 25851, GO COM A2)NEW SWEET   Version 1.2 of Sweet16 is now available! My original plan had"""""""""   been to ship a more comprehensive 1.2 in October, but thisversion fixes a bug that's very annoying and I felt it was worth puttingout an update sooner to get it into users' hands as quickly as possible.Here's what's new:Bugs fixed:1. Fixed a bug in the speed control code that would cause emulation to   randomly pause from time to time.2. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused the keyboard to get stuck   repeating.3. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused garbage characters to be   returned.Improvements:1. Minor optimizations to the ADB subsystem.2. Added a "Mount as read-only" checkbox to the Mount Disk Image file   panel.3. The Create disk image menu now provides an option to create 100 MB   images.4. You can now select multiple disks to unmount in the Mount Disk Image   file panel.New Features:1. Floppy disks are now pre-cached gradually in the background after you   mount them. This uses a background thread to slowly read in the disk   into the cache so that future reads will be faster; this happens without   any noticeable loss of IIgs CPU performance.2. You can now record movies of Sweet16's video window. Audio isn't   supported yet, and only the large video mode can be recorded. This   requires a lot of processing power and disk speed though, or the entire   system slows down. (16-bit, 640x400 video is very   computationally-intensive to record). You can create movies using any   BeOS supported file format and codec (including QuickTime and AVI,   Indeo, Photo-JPEG, etc).3. Holding down the command (Alt) key when launching Sweet16 starts the   emulator paused. This gives you time to swap out disk images before the   IIgs boots.4. Added the new Disks window. This window shows you the disks you have   mounted, whether or not they're currently running, and how big they are.   You can also eject and mount disks using this window.---Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net                        (SHEPPY, 25512, GO COM A2)BERNIE BUMPED TO 2.5   FREE YOUR DATA - BERNIE TOTAL INTEGRATION MAKES ITS""""""""""""""""""""   DEBUTBasel/Switzerland -- 9/21/99 -- F.E.Systems introduced today a major updateto Bernie ][ The Rescue, the emulator that pioneered Apple IIgs emulation.Version 2.5 brings tight integration with MacOS by offering file drag&dropand copy&paste across platforms, among other new features and internalchanges.With "Bernie Total Integration" users can now drag & drop files betweenMacOS and GS/OS with simple mouse clicks. Bernie 2.5 also enhances thestandard copy & paste commands so text clipboards can be shared easily withthe Mac environment. True integration at your fingertip!The update also greatly improves sound emulation by adding non-linear,adaptive volume control with automatic channel balancing.F.E.Systems maintains an extensive web site with up-to-date onlinetutorials, software specials for registered users, and online support.Bernie's home page can be reached at{<http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Bernie/>http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Bernie/.}F.E.Systems has specialized in emulation technologies and develops anddistributes the most advanced Apple II emulator. We believe in the conceptof "reusing technology" and are offering emulation tools that enhance aplatform's functionality as a way to protect your investments.Henrik Woof Gudatwoof woof                        (GUDATH, 26016, GO COM A2)AND 2.5.1   Dear Bernie users,"""""""""Despite all testing and garlic on our monitors, we have learned around fivehours ago that Bernie would not launch ProDOS 8 applications from the IIgsFinder. The bug - a memory $201 error - hit the system during the change ofenvironments so at no time your data was unsafe.We have removed the software immediately and investigated the issue.The required parts have been revised and Bernie 2.5.1 is now back on theservers. For your convenience we have also prepared a small upgrade thatincludes just the Bernie application and the Total Integration extension.The two files replace your Bernie 2.5 application and the system extension"Bernie.Enabler" in your GS/OS system folder (StartupDisk:System:System.Setup:). The direct link to the download page is{<http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Download/Parts/bernieconsumer.html>http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Download/Parts/bernieconsumer.html} .We apologize for the incident and wish you a pleasant time with a bug-freeBernie 2.5.1.Regards,Henrik Woof Gudatwoof woof                        (GUDATH, 26064, GO COM A2)                             BEST OF THE BEST                             """"""""""""""""26126 26-SEP 13:57 General Chatter     Sequential Systems dead? (Re: Msg 26109)     From: T_DIAZ       To: SPECTOR1 (NR)If you only knew how many vendors were committed to the new Apple II. Ifyou think of the amount of software titles that were never finished in thelater 80's and early 90s (Well, 89-91 actually), I call that the secondwave of ditching.There was a royally F**KED time at Apple they actually, less than 2 yearsafter introduction of the Apple IIgs just like that, dropped a bomb on themarketing of the entire platform and refused to spend any more money on it.They told vendors "No. Do not do that, program it for the Mac ...", etc.Well, guess what. The amount of negative feedback and revolt that the userswho had paid on average of $2,000 for these systems was not something theycould ignore. .. So while vendors decided to 'go where the money was',after a second revival of sorts they ditched again after a dismal showing.Liken that to the Perot presidential campaign. I'm in, I'm out, I'm in, I'mout Well, 19% was a strong showing, but not enough of those that werealienated by the indecision of the past.Yes, the IIgs was 'overhyped', but so is nearly every single product atintroduction. There are a few differences here though:The Amiga has most of it's OS features released with it, the Apple IIgs was2 years behind the OS. I still do believe that we would have never seensystem 6 if Apple had gotten away with it's master plan of ditching aftertwo years.Two years after the Amiga, Commodore was going gung ho still with it, andwhile the C=64 users may have felt they were getting the shaft like the A2users did to the Mac, Commodore was not crapping on them at the same time,like Apple was doing. Some of you may say, "Fine.. look where that gotCommodore", yeah, look where it got Apple too. They were both headed downthe same road. Fortunately for us Apple took the other fork in the road anddid something about it. As for the Amiga, I know several hardcore Amigausers that used it in business. They all switched to Mac because Lightwavewas ported to the Mac.If the Apple IIgs was released with GS/OS instead of that hacked shelladded to a ProDOS 8 core we may be in a different position now. Butanyway..We are the lone holdouts, the Apple II has given me many things, half aremonetary, the rest are the relationships and community. While one hasdwindled the other can last forever.So here we are, and I'll see you next summer in Kansas City!..and KFest is not about making a killing in the bank. One can dreamthough. :)Tony[EOA][A2P]------------------------------                   A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |-----------------------------------Checking out A2PRO on Delphi""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                [thelamp@sheppyware.net]RESOLVING AN UNRESOLVED REFERENCE LABEL   I'm doing something stupid, but"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   I'm not sure what I'm missing.I'm writing an assembly program, but needs to call C functions. I found thesection in the Orca/C manual how to call the C function so I'm set withthat.The problem is during the linking. I'm getting Unresolved reference Labelerrors for each C function that the assembly code is referencing. I amguessing that I have no idea how to tell the assembly code the labels areto be found in the C code.I have the assembly routines in one file, lets call it prog.asm. I have theC functions in another file, lets call it funcs.cc.What I did was this:assemble prog.asmcompile funcs.cclink prog funcs keep=progI was hoping the linking would magically figure out the labels, but thatdidn't work. I'm not finding anything in the manuals that is helping me.Geoff                      (SISGEOFF, 2746, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   Keep in mind that this is a great way to crash the computer if you"""""   forget to initialize the C environment. The C libraries, and insome cases even the code generated by the compiler, depend on an orderlyinitialization of certain registers, global variables, and tools. If youdon't do that and use a function or instruction that depends oninitialization, you're asking for trouble.The easiest way to set things up is to start the program from C, then callyour main assembly language routine from main(). You can find specificstartup information for roll-your-own startups in the C release notes.Mike Westerfield                      (BYTEWORKS, 2749, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   Just a wild guess here, since I'm at work and can't look it up, but"""""   do you have the case directive on in ORCA/M? (I assume that's whatyou're using for your assembler.)Later,- Aaron                       (APULVER, 2747, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   That's almost certainly it. Add "CASE ON" to your assembly source"""""   at the top of the file; ORCA/M normally assembles with all labelsconverted to upper-case, but ORCA/C is case-sensitive, so you need to turnon case-sensitive assembling so the labels match.---Eric (Sheppy) Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net                       (SHEPPY, 2748, GO COM A2PRO)WHAT HAPPENS WITH DESIGNMASTER?   The problem I see most often when I"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   generate Rez source from DesignMaster isthat the resource IDs get screwed up. I can't remember for sure, but Ibelieve the high word of the ID (or one bit of the high word? I forget)contains some random value. The ID might be correct in the control list,for example, but then the actual resource has a bogus ID.That particular problem isn't too hard to fix by hand if you know whatyou're looking for, but I recall having run into a couple of other bugs aswell. :)Later,- Aaron                       (APULVER, 2753, GO COM A2PRO)THANKS FROM THE DEAN   Now that the last lesson in the Hypercard IIgs""""""""""""""""""""   course has been released, I would like to take thisopportunity to thank Gareth Jones for the excellent job he did in creatingthis course.I know that I have learned a lot about HyperCard IIgs from reading theselessons and have earned a new respect for a development system that Ialways considered to be not much more than a novelty.Thank you Gareth, for the time and effort you put into this course.Also, I would like to thank HangTime for running his Tuesday nightHyperCard IIgs chats and volunteering to help any of the courseparticipants during those chats.Finally, I wish to thank those that participated and gave feedback. I'msure Gareth would love to get more feedback as I believe he intends torefine the course over time.Don't forget that the A2Pro Forum and Conference area are still here tohelp answer any questions you may have about creating or modifyingHyperCard IIgs stacks so feel free to ask. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0                      (JBLAKENEY, 2762, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   Thanks for the kind words about the HCGS course. I also learned a"""""   lot during it, even though (or especially though) I wrote it!As Jeff mentioned, I'd like to improve the course over time. I've put uphtml versions of the lessons at my web site(http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/gslj) for this purpose. Any commentsor suggestions or even criticisms are welcome.-Gareth                       (GARETH, 2766, GO COM A2PRO)<<<<<   Since I have just finished typing a thank you to the instructor of"""""   the HyperCard IIgs course, I feel compelled to do the same for theauthor of both the language and the course for GSoft BASIC.Thanks to Mike Westerfield the Apple IIgs has yet another incrediblypowerful programming language that is easy to learn. This learning processis even easier due to the "Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC" text that Mikehas written and sells through his company, the Byteworks.Mike graciously gave of his time, even after the work entailed to give usthese new resources, to host a two hour chat on Monday nights to helpbudding GSoft BASIC programmers who were working their way through hiscourse.Thanks also to the participants of this course, especially to those thatcaptured transcripts of the chats for me when I was late or couldn'tattend. You know who you are and I'm believe I have credited you in thedescriptions of the uploaded files.As with the HyperCard IIgs course, I would like to invite anyone with aGSoft BASIC problem to feel free to ask questions here in the A2Pro Forumor in Conference. Mike Westerfield and many other knowledgeable people willbe quite happy to help you. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0                      (JBLAKENEY, 2763, GO COM A2PRO)SPECTRUM SCRIPTING HELP FROM THE MASTERS   I need some assistance with the""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   AlertWindow XCMD.I am trying to display a window when a certain value is zero, but nothingis ever displayed. I then just gave the External AlertWindow command withits appropriate parameters in a script by itself as follows:External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32*There's nothing here.~^^OKAnd got nothing.This is in the SHR screen. I have the feeling I'm not setting someparameters, but what am I missing?Thanks. . .- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_ My words are not to be posted to usenet without my permission ever. Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution                      (RSUENAGA, 2767, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   Try this:"""""External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32 "There's nothing here.~^^OK" ButNumYou need a result variable to return the button number which is always 1 soyou can ignore its content. Of course, change the quotes to your quotecharacter.Geoff                      (SISGEOFF, 2768, GO COM A2PRO)>>>>>   You must delimit all values with a space. If you add a space after"""""   '32' the example will now work.You must also add a trailing 'quote' after 'OK', or you will not get thecorrect value into the button. You must 'balance' quotes or odd things willhappen. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 30 Aug 1999 - 331 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                       (EWANNOP, 2769, GO COM A2PRO)[EOA][HWH]------------------------------              HARDWORKING HARDWARE |-----------------------------------APPLE II PRINTERS"""""""""""""""""Written by Lyle Syverson    [lyle837@delphi.com]                 Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"     It was one of those lazy Sunday afternoons... window shopping theadvertising fliers.     !THUD!     Read that again... Hewlett Packard DeskJet 400 for $88.  I hadpromised myself that if the price of the HP DeskJets went below $100 Iwould get one for my Apple IIgs.  It was time to make good on that promise.FINDING A BARGAIN ON A NEW DESKJET PRINTER   Watch the ads for your local''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''   Wal-Mart, computer stores, andoffice supply stores.  If an ad sounds good check it out promptly.  Iwaited ten days to get to Wal-Mart and ended up buying a HP Deskjet 420Cfor $98 rather than the 400 for $89.     Also stop in regularly at these stores and check out their printerdisplays.  Recently the local OfficeMax was offering the same HP 420C witha $20 mail in coupon for a net price of $79 after rebate.  They had notadvertised this bargain.     Which Deskjet should you get?  In general if the specs say it willwork with _MS DOS_ it will work with the Apple II.  Avoid printers that arefor use with _Windows_ only.  Some of the local stores are currentlyoffering a $30 mail in rebate coupon for the HP Deskjet 612C for $129... anet price of $99.  The 612C has both color and black ink cartridges inplace at the same time.     The Deskjet 420C has a track record with the Apple II.  It isinexpensive, small, light weight, quiet, and works well with Appleworks andthe 16 bit programs on the IIgs.  Keep in mind that the 420C can only haveone ink cartridge installed at a time.  If you are switching from black andwhite to color or back you will have to change ink cartridges.THE MYSTIQUE OF THE APOLLO PRINTER   The Apollo 1200 printer, and the''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''   "Barbie Printer" (as in Barbie Dolls)are reported to be the same printer as the HP Deskjet 420C.  The shape ofthe exterior case of the Apollo and the 420C are definitely not the same.The Apollo uses exactly the same HP ink cartridges as the 420C.     Hewlett Packard denies any connection with Apollo printers.  Followingthe news link on the Apollo web site (http://www.myapollo.com/) indicatesthat Apollo is a subsidiary of HP!     If you visit the Apollo web site you can print out coupons for mail inrebates of $30 on the Apollo 1200 and the Barbie printer, so you shouldcheck prices on these printers.     Locating a place to buy either one of these printers might be anothermatter.  I stopped at my local Best Buy to ask about these printers. I wastold that these printers were carried only for a short time as a specialpromotion... Best Buy is no longer selling them.  The people at OfficeDepot (the only other local store to advertise the Apollo printer)indicated that they were instructed to return all 25 of the Apollos to themanufacturer because of software problems.WHAT ELSE WILL YOU NEED FOR YOUR NEW DESKJET?   You will need a parallel'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''   card.  This is usuallyinstalled in slot 1 but could be installed in one of the other slots.Alltech Electronics (http://www.allelec.com/) lists the Grappler Plus cardfor $29.  This card includes a cable that connects directly to the Deskjetprinters.  I was able to purchase a new Grappler Plus from an individualfor $10 including shipping.  Also watch the used market.     If you will be using the Deskjet with the 16 bit programs on the IIgsyou will need special software drivers.     I use _Harmonie_.  _Harmonie_ is available from Shareware Solutions II(http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 including shipping.     _Independence_ is available from MyEsource(http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/) for $20 plus shipping.(Editor's Note: see the February 1999 issue of _The Lamp!_ for a discussion of the merits of these two fine products)     With the IIgs you would also you would be well advised to use_Pointless_ so that you can use TrueType fonts.  _Pointless_ is availablefrom Shareware Solutions II (http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 includingshipping.     The _Harmonie_ DeskJet560C driver works great with the 420C and theblack ink cartridge.  To use the color cartridge you will need to use theDeskJet500C driver.     _Appleworks_ 4.3 and 5.1 include two drivers for the HP Deskjet 500.With the Grappler Plus and the Deskjet 420C "add" these printers then:   1. Install black ink cartridge in Deskjet.   2. Change "Needs line feed after each Return" to yes.   3. Change Interface Cards to "Control-I 0N" (that is zero N).     Then there are _The New Print Shop_, _Print Shop GS_, and _Print ShopCompanion GS_.  No drivers for the HP 420C... And only a very slim hopethat there ever will be.  So I also left the Imagewriter II hooked up tothe IIgs.CONCLUSION   I would highly recommend the HP Deskjet 420C printer for use''''''''''   with the Apple II.  Considering the volatile prices of theDeskjets you should also consider other printers such as the HP 612C andthe Apollo / Barbie printers when making your purchase.         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         :                                                       :         :    The world is coming to an end. Please log-off.     :         :                                                       :         ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH ::::::[EOA][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in"""""""""""""""   the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi onlineservice (GO CUS 11).This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computersusing Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes.  Apple II Forever!     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All       rights reserved.     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to       thelamp@sheppyware.net     * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on       Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page,       http://lamp.sheppyware.net.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of  the individual authors, and do  notnecessarily  represent  the  opinions   of  the  Delphi  Online   Services,Syndicomm, Inc.,  or  Ryan M.  Suenaga.     Forum  messages  are  reprintedverbatim and  are included  in this  publication with  permission from  theindividual authors.   Delphi Online Services,  Syndicomm, Inc. and  Ryan M.Suenaga  do not guarantee  the accuracy or  suitability of any  informationincluded herein.  We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy.Material published  in  this  edition  may not  be  reprinted  without  theexpressed  written consent  of the  publisher.   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