[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi | | |_| >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE VIRTUAL ][: Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 2, No. 3 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ March 15, 1999OPENING PITCH Oh My Lord, We're Going To The Dance! -------------------------- [OPN]GOING POSTAL Letters To The Editor ------------------------------------------ [POS]A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR] The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET] Miscellanea [MSC] Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR] Public Postings [PUB] Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]A2Pro_DUCTIVITY Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]THE VIRTUAL ][ Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones ---------------------- [TVT]EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make""""""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : I had my head examined. They didn't find *anything*! : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 :::::::::[EOA][OPN]------------------------------ OPENING PITCH |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball teamearned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Associationchampionship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "TheBig Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of WesternAthletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown playerson the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we'regoing to the dance!" Who wouldn't be excited? March Madness is a gathering of the best ofcollege athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed,no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go. The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest.It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, butunlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unlessit's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like collegebasketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go. Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invitedonly--or rather, everyone's invited. Don't live with regrets--go to the dance. [*] [*] [*] Late Breaking News Department: here is an official announcment fromGlen Bredon and Charlie's AppleSeeds, the author and publisher of theultimate Apple II and IIgs utilities, _ProSEL 8_ and _ProSEL 16_:Official Announcement March 6, 1999September will end 10 years that Charlie's AppleSeeds has published andsold ProSel and ProSel-16 for Glen Bredon. Demand for things Apple II isalmost nonexistent and for that reason, I asked for and was granted, byE-mail, permission to announce that ProSel and ProSel-16 will be moved tothe Public Domain. (See Glen Bredon's message below)Upgrades by disk and new copies by disk will be $10, regardless whether itis ProSel 8 or ProSel-16. This will cover my costs for materials, time andeffort and postage.A copy of the manual will be $14. Book and ProSel-16 disk, $24. Postage isincluded in all prices. I will split whatever net I get from this, withGlen, as usual.Charlie's AppleSeeds will not upload these programs to any online service.ANY uploads of ProSel or ProSel-16, to be properly uploaded as PublicDomain, should be the latest versions of the programs. This announcementdoes not include earlier versions as part of the Public Domain. To dootherwise would be a disservice not only to any new user, but to theprogrammer, Professor Glen E. Bredon.The OFFICIAL versions that are recognized as Public Domain are:ProSel-16, v 8.84ProSel 8, v 4.0ANY upload of these programs MUST include this text file, unchanged in anyway, in its entirety.ChuckCharlie's AppleSeeds9081 Hadley PlaceSan Diego CA 92126-1523619-566-0387Subj: phone callDate: 02/21/1999 3:32:00 PM Pacific Standard TimeFrom: bredon@sierratel.com (Glen Bredon)To: chucknewby@aol.com (Chuck Newby)Chuck:To confirm our phone conversation: I give my permission to place ProSel 8and ProSel 16 in public domain.In case anyone asks, however, I will not supply source code. It is just asimple matter that access to the old files is problematic - the GS wasgetting very touchy before I retired it from my desk. Also, it would justbe too much of a bother to get things together.I am now doing mostly photography on my pretty new PowerMac G3.I even have a web site containing a bunch of my photos (see below).Glen BredonVisit my Photographic Web Site: http://www.sierratel.com/bredonContents Copyright (c) Charlie's AppleSeeds & Glen E. Bredon, 1999.Chuck Newby Thanks, Chuck and Glen. That is great news. The Delphi A2 Database staff is working on getting the officialversions now considered public domain ready for upload to Delphi. If youhappen to find _ProSel_ on an Internet ftp site or BBS, please check to seeif it's the current version, if the text file is included, and, if it's abootable diskette, if the site has a license to distribute the Apple SystemSoftware as well. _ProSel_, in both versions, is an exceptionally usefulset of utilities, but it can also be exceptionally dangerous, and it wasupgraded as much as it was for good reasons. Be careful. In the meantime,we'll add _ProSel_ to the list of things we hope to cover in _The Lamp!_. [*] [*] [*] Let's Dance Department: KansasFest 1999 registration is on _now_!Your chance to hang out with the best the Apple II world has to offer isright before your eyes. Early registration discount prices will be goingon for another month. Don't miss this opportunity to make the pilgrimageto Avila College part of your summer. You can find out more information onthe KFest Home page at http://www.kfest.org. Remember: there's nothing finer than Kansas City in July. Be good. We'll be back in thirty.Ryanthelamp@sheppyware.netASCII ART BEGINS_________ _ _ _|__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA][POS]------------------------------ GOING POSTAL |-----------------------------------Letters To The Editor"""""""""""""""""""""Hello Ryan,I just want to drop a quick note thanking you for publishing The Lamp! Ireally do appreciate it and I glean much needed info from it as an Apple IIuser, enthusiast, and die hard fan.It's an excellent publication, and ranks right up there with my Juiced.GSand Shareware Solutions II publications which I receive.I hope you have a great weekend Ryan!regards, perry dueckpmd@escape.cahttp://www.escape.ca/~pmd Thanks, Perry. I'm amazed sometimes by how little mail we gethere at _The Lamp!_, yet this month we had two nice letters. It's nice toknow I'm not just doing this stuff for my health (tongue planted firmly incheek).--RMS[EOA][OPN]------------------------------ A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |-----------------------------------Checking out A2 on Delphi"""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] * The Heat Is On * Miscellanea * Rumor Mill * Public Postings * Best Of The Best THE HEAT IS ON """""""""""""" [*] General Chatter ....... More On Apple Manuals Online [*] Apple Operating System ....... Using HFS+ Via Appleshare [*] Hardware Hacker ....... RamFASTs And More Than 4 Megs [*] Apple Operating System ....... How To Reset AppleTalk? [*] Graphics and Sound ....... Bill Lynn Surfaces On Delphi MISCELLANEA """""""""""SPECCIE ON MODEMS, CONTINUED It might be thought that even if you make a"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 300 baud connection, but have a modemcapable of 57600 baud, then it is OK to connect to the modem at that highspeed. You think that the data will only be arriving at 300 baud...But that is not the case!If you have a computer to modem speed of 57600 baud, then the data willarrive at the computer at that speed, regardless of how fast it actuallyarrived at the modem. The result could be loss of data if the interruptsystem on your computer cannot keep up with that high baud rate.The golden rule is to set the computer to modem speed the same as thehighest you will be connecting at, or the next highest speed if that onedoes not exist in your comms program.This rule was fine until modems got up to 57600 baud. Now we must temperthat rule by also defining how efficient the interrupt chain is in yourparticular computer.At high baud rates, it is also vital that you have the correctly wiredHardware Handshake cable from your computer to the modem.If you have a //e, then I would guess that 38400 baud may be the fastestyou can manage, though you might be able to go faster. If you have a IIgs,and shift-boot into P8 to run ProTerm, then you should have no problem witheven a stock unaccelerated machine at 57600 baud.Running a desktop comms program like Spectrum, gives you a longer interruptchain, and so things will work slower. Even with a shift-boot, I wouldexpect an unnaccelerated machine to have problems with 38400 baud.Accelerate it, and 38400 baud will work well. Run a IIgs emulator such asBernie ][ the Rescue on a Macintosh of at least 100Mhz, and you will beable to go to the full 57600 baud.The collection of Inits and DAs you have can also have a bearing on allthis, and must be taken into consideration if you get any data loss orerrors. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 1 Feb 2000 - 195 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 20001, GO COM A2)NUFX AND BINARY II RULES FOR DELPHI UPLOADS AS PER CONAN Actually, the"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" rules gosomething like this:1) All files must be packed with ShrinkIt and wrapped in Binary II, except for platform-independent files such as GIF and JPEG, and the rare Macintosh files which are Stuffed and MacBinaried.2) The ShrinkIt archive name must match the Binary II name. In other words, NEATGAME.BXY had better have NEATGAME.SHK inside, and the filetype on NEATGAME.SHK had better be correct ($E0/$8002.)3) No disk archives or self-extracting archives unless absolutely necessary. The former is usually reserved for non-ProDOS disks and disks that use Apple's Installer. The latter is not used at all except for the ShrinkIt program itself (it's easier for newbies to unpack it that way...usually.)That's pretty much it. Some people pack multiple file archives in their ownfolders, but that's certainly not a requirement. In fact, it takes a tinybit of unnecessary space that way. ShrinkIt has an option to create a newfolder to unpack files into, so that's not a problem anyway. If you open anarchive that's got 51 files not enclosed in a folder, make one yourself.It is customary, but not required, that the archive name in some wayresemble what's inside. For example, it's nice to put a game called "NeatGame" in an archive called NEATGAME.BXY instead of MISC.STUFF.BXY. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Tue Feb 09, 1999 4:33:58 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- I am not a dictator. It's just I have a grumpy face. (TONYW1, 20263, GO COM A2)<<<<< Here's one reason for not putting multiple files inside a folder""""" when you make the ShrinkIt archive. Let's say I download an upgradeof a program I already own. I want to have ShrinkIt overwrite the old filesas they are unpacked. If the files were archived inside a folder, then Ihave to make sure the folder name on my disk match the one the author usedwhen he made the archive. If they don't match, I have to unpack into aseparate folder, quit ShrinkIt, and copy the files to where they belong.Okay, that's probably an extreme example but I think it makes my point.As for shell unpacking, doesn't yankit have an option to list the contentsof an archive? I know it's an extra step, but it would solve the problem. - Tony (TONYW1, 20281, GO COM A2)CREATING USABLE GWIII IMAGES WITH A QUICKIE If you have GWIII v2.0 or""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" above, try this:1) Install the Quickie NDA - and reboot your system. At least on mysystem, if I install NDAs via IR and then go into GWIII v2.0, I get the'about' dialog when I choose the newly added NDA.2) Launch GWIII and create/open the document of interest.3) Open the Quickie NDA and scan/open the graphic that you want in theGWIII document.4) Using the 'marquee' tool in the Quickie NDA, outline the area of thepicture that you want in the document and do a Command-C (or choose Copyfrom the Quickie NDA's Edit menu)5) Click on the GWIII document window and do Edit/Paste.6) If necessary, resize the picture with the 'object properties' dialog.Don't try to resize it by dragging the frame.See if that helps... (DZAHNISER, 20042, GO COM A2)COMPUSERVE CLOSES APPUSER FORUM We've known for months of the upcoming""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" changes on CompuServe, and how at somepoint, the Apple II forum (Appuse) would become inaccessible to those whoown only an Apple II computer. We just never knew exactly when the changeswould take place. But just the other day, we were informed that the end wasnear.I was hoping that we'd be able to get in one final Monday nightmulti-system chat before the Appuse forum was no longer accessible to thosewith an Apple II, and to that end, I urged 100 Apple II users on CompuServeto show up tonight in order to "send a message" to the 'powers that be' atCompuServe.As it turns out, that last little bit of Apple II rabble rousing may havebeen fun, but when I tried logging onto Appuse this morning, I found outthat we won't be able to show the CompuServe big-wigs that we take our"Apple II Forever" slogan seriously. They went ahead and shut the Appuseforum.There is, however, a little justice in the world.The Apple II area on CompuServe now resides within the Mac Hardware forum,and as an early-riser, I was able to snag the first Apple II message onthat new area. Using my Apple II "PowerBot" peripheral, I made sure thatthe welcoming message stated the obvious..."Apple II Forever!"Oh well. It was fun while it lasted, but it looks like our multi-systemchat is now down to just Delphi and Genie.Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 20016, GO COM A2)>>>>> Hi all,"""""I wasn't sure where to put this; I hope it isn't too evil of me to start anew thread. This news is a few days old but I didn't see it mentioned inthe message base here, so...As of Monday, the Apple II User Forum on CompuServe - GO APPUSER - is nolonger accessible via ASCII. In fact, the forum itself no longer exists.All that remains is message Section 14/Apple II and file Library 16/AppleII in the Macintosh Hardware Forum, GO MACHW.A few years ago CompuServe started switching from the 36-bit computers usedto run ASCII forums as APPUSER, to new 32-bit systems running NISA (NewInformation System Architecture, I think). Both systems could be accessedby a program that employed HMI (Human Micro Interface?), CompuServe'sproprietary data protocol; but in order to trim costs and also to make roomfor new WebView forums, the new machines no longer have ASCII support.Forums for which ASCII support was integral to their subject material, suchas APPUSER, have been maintained, but it is now reported that these forumsare not Y2K-compliant; and rather than upgrade them, all remaining ASCIIforums are now either being switched to NISA, or are being absorbed by NISAforums (as was the case with APPUSER).The chance of an HMI-capable program ever existing for the Apple II iszilch. CompuServe refuses to release the programming specs.Macintosh users can use MacCIM or MacNav - these are two of a handful ofMac HMI programs.Apple II users can still logon to CompuServe's ASCII side and accesswhatever is still available through that format: email, Executive NewsService, Grolier's Encyclopedia, etc. CIS can also be used as an ISP withMarinetti.The updates to ShiftyList, WebWorks, and Bernie should be available inMACHW later this week. (KEN_GAGNE, 20081, GO COM A2)>>>>> An interesting sidenote: When I got the "your software isn't""""" compatible with the forum" message on CIS Monday morning, I calledCIS to cancel my account. I was informed by the nice lady I talked to thatsince I had been a CIS subscriber since 1986, they could offer me a specialstatus: I no longer will have to pay a minimum monthly charge for having aCIS account. I can let this account sit dormant for years into the futurewith no problems, and should I decide to log on, I'll only be charged$1.95/hr. and I can upgrade my account status at any time.She then asked why I was going to cancel (I did take the new acct. status,BTW), and I told her that CIS was of little use to me with the Apple IIarea turned off. Not ony was she unaware that there HAD been an Apple IIsection on the system she was a cust.ser rep for, it turns out that sheowns an Apple //e, and is interested in getting it back up and running andon the net. I pointed her to the A2 Motherboard, and Delphi, and I thinkshe may join here. Score one for the Apple //. :)later............Howard (HKATZ, 20085, GO COM A2)>>>>> The passing (well, for the most part, passing) of the Apple II""""" areas on CSi is indeed sad news, but to be honest, for the mostpart they were already a part of Apple II history.Just as Genie made an effort years ago to take in the refugees from AOLwhen they dropped Apple II support, I'd like to invite anyone who is a CSirefugee (well, actually, I guess they're AOL refugees too :) to come onover to Delphi.The future of the Apple II is in our hands.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20105, GO COM A2)WHICH 8-BIT II? Shame on you! An enhanced IIe with additional cards will""""""""""""""" knock the spots of any IIC and you can easily add a harddrive; try that with a IIC. Admittedly a IIC looks cute, but the keyboardis only good for small fingers, memory is very limited; even with a 1 megcard; and the regular monitor is very small. 3.5" drives are easy to attachto a IIe, but only certain ones work with a IIC. Hope I have made my point.TTFN,Tee CashmorePS: I have lots of software that will run on either. (TEEC, 20190, GO COM A2)>>>>> Well, I generally agree with you that a //e is far more expandable,""""" more easily, than a //c or //c+, but let's not sell those short. :)I have a //c+ here which is the most used 8-bit II I have. Granted, it's arather hot-rodded //c+, but hey, what else would you expect from me :) Ihave five //e's on the shelf, and one in the closet (that is working, andwill, someday, be a BBS computer).- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20208, GO COM A2)SHELL GAMES WITH ISPS Well, there are actually two kinds of shell""""""""""""""""""""" accounts:1) The dial up shell;and2) The telnet only shell.If you have the former type, it's something in your dialing. For instance,several of the ISP's I have dealt with have you put a P before yourusername when logging into them via dial up to indicate a PPP connect;without the P, it would be a dial up shell.Telnet only shells mean that once you have a PPP connect, you open up atelnet session to their shell. You'll have to check with your provider tosee which you have.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20212, GO COM A2)>>>>> Each ISP is a little bit different, but it's almost always done by""""" varying your username at the "login:" prompt. The better ISPs helpyou out by displaying instructions at login time, but many do not. My ISPdoes it by adding a character to the start of your username:username : PPPPusername : Force dynamic IP PPP loginSusername : SLIPCusername : CSLIPRusername : Rlogin AdamNusername : Rlogin NathanAdam and Nathan are the names of two shell machines. Since usernames arealways lowercase, those uppercase characters come in handy for this sort ofthing.You will have to contact your ISP to see how they have it setup. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Mon Feb 08, 1999 2:21:53 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- Never drink whisky on an empty ulcer! (TONYW1, 20243, GO COM A2)CARL ON APPLIED ENGINEERING HIGH DENSITY FLOPPIES I have one of the AE HD""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" drives. It came with adriver to do 1.6M using the GS floppy port, but I bought it with an Apple3.5" drive controller, alias the Apple Superdrive controller. When usedwith the Superdrive controller, it uses the 3.5 driver supplied with System6.0.1, which supports the 1.44M format. You can have 1.6M or 1.44M, but notboth at the same time. I chose the more standard, and interchangeable,1.44M format.Also, the AE driver, used on the floppy port, will not read MSDOS disksfrom your Wintel machine, or write MSDOS disks that can be read on yourWintel machine. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 8:30:30 pm cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest Posted with delays off. (CKNOBLO, 20413, GO COM A2)THE FORMER FAST EDDIE NARROWS THE GAP ON GUS Many of you know that I've"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" been a Gus fan for years.Some of you know why: Gus is faster.Well, I've just finished some benchmarks on Gus and Bernie 2.0, and thoughtyou might like to see the results. Running on a 300MHz PowerMac G3, a fullcompile of GSoft BASIC takes:Gus 66 secondsBernie 2.0 72 secondsIn the past, Gus was about twice as fast as Bernie. Getting within 8% ofGus pretty much makes them equivalent. When you consider how many morefeatures Bernie has, and how much better the support is, I'd say Bernie isstarting to stack up pretty darn well. If I were paying money, and had topick one, I think I'd pick Bernie. And since you can't buy Gus at anyprice...Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20276, GO COM A2)<<<<< With a 9MHz (geeze that sounds slow these days) Zip accelerator,""""" the time for a full compile is...(I'm waiting for the compile...)(I'm still waiting...)(...still waiting...)(...tap, tap, tap, tap... still waiting...)OK, it's 12:33, or 753 seconds.Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20522, GO COM A2)>>>>> I've been following this discussion, and I'm glad Mike found Bernie""""" a worthwhile substitute for GUS. I've noticed that a number ofpeople have started comparing performance of Gus & Bernie, and whilepersonally I believe that it's pointless comparing two emulators that arerepresentatives of the same MHz class, my programmer's ego wants me tocomment on the various figures given earlier.SpeedTest, a GUI benchmarking program, is considered a real-worldperformance test. I will let the figures speak for themselves.256 colors thousandsGUS d3 240 282Bernie 210 209256 colors test done at forced 60Hz. Thousands of colors test done at 15Hzwhich GUS seems to use by default. Host machine G3/300/1MbL2@150Mhz. (GUDATH, 20327, GO COM A2)<<<<< That's an interesting benchmark, too. It also points out that when""""" speed is a concern you have to test a computer doing tasks that aretypical of what you generally do on the computer. While this is animportant benchmark for many people, it doesn't mean a lot to me--but thespeed of development tools processing my programs obviously means a greatdeal to me. :)Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 20343, GO COM A2)>>>>> I consider the benchmark important, but by no means a good""""" comparison (the only thing it proved was that Bernie handled smallsection of graphics redraw better than GUS at 16-bit color mode). Fullscreen redraw tests can use Task Force and Rastan. Other comparisons areneeded like compiling a program as Mike said (this is one of the mostpopular methods of comparing systems). Also, performing several commontasks with AppleWorks GS such as sorting a database, finding text in adocument, spell checking, etc. File I/O such as booting and loading severalcommon programs would be needed as well. 8-bit application comparison wouldbe interesting, but IMO not important.But since GUS isn't publicly available, I'm not sure if it is worth goingthrough all that.Geoff (SISGEOFF, 20344, GO COM A2)>>>>> For me, the best benchmark was the WolfyMark test."""""On my 9 MHz IIgs, it takes 1 hour, 45 minutes to do a full compile of Wolf3D in ORCA/C.On a Power Mac 8100, in Bernie, it took 45 minutes to do a full build ofWolf 3D in ORCA/C.On a Power Mac G3/266, in Bernie, it takes 1 minute, 45 seconds.On a Power Mac G3/266, in Gus, it takes 1 minute, 32 seconds.On a Power Mac 8500 with two 180 MHz PowerPC 604e processors, in Sweet16 onBeOS, it takes 1 minute, 22 seconds.On the same Power Mac 8500, two processors, running Bernie in theSheepShaver Mac OS environment for BeOS, it takes 1 minute, 12 seconds.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20355, GO COM A2)TRACKING CRASHES TO EDITMENUICONS? Within the past week or two, there was"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" some discussion about the init'EditMenuIcons'. I said that I had deleted it from my system because I hadproblems with it, but couldn't remember what they were. Well, I decided tore-install it because I do really like the icons in the Edit menu.However...For those with EditMenuIcons installed, here's an experiment you can try,if you like. I would be interested to hear if others get the same responseas I do.1) Launch WWPro, SnowTerm, or QuickClickCalc. This experiment doesn'tproduce the same result with GraphicWriter III v2.1.2) Open IRNDA 2.0, and load an NDA. Try ASCIIHelper, GSCII+, ShowMe!, orMightyUnits. It didn't work when I loaded MemoryMonitor.3) Close the NDA you opened and the IRNDA 2.0 window.4) Move your mouse cursor to the File menu, click and hold, and drag overto the Edit menu, and see what happens. **** My system immediately crashes ****I have SysFail Plus 2.3 installed, and it displays the same error message,resource ID and call information no matter which of the above programs I amin or which DA I am trying to load. My system also crashes with the sameerror if I try to load one of the above NDAs with Accessory Chooser, FontDA2.0, and one other DA loader NDA that I tried.If I deactivate EditMenuIcons, the errors go away.One variant that I have seen is that within LaunchBox, which normally has adimmed Edit menu, the dimmed icons and Command-keystrokes are displayed,but the words Cut, Paste, and Copy are missing. Otherwise, no problem,except I launched a program and was able to crash my system by justselecting File and dragging over to the Edit menu in the launched program. (DZAHNISER, 20296, GO COM A2)>>>>> Very interesting, Don. Following your steps I crashed just like you""""" did, and removing EditMenuIcons cured the problem. Normally I blamethis sort of Resource error on an application (or NDA) not keeping track ofthe resource path, but the one program which normally exhibits this sort oferror for me, Wings, doesn't crash at all.WWPro and QuickClickCalc are the only two programs I've found so far thatcause this crash, and I don't use either one very often. I also don't oftenperform the exact sequence of steps that causes the crash so it's no wonderI've never noticed it. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Feb 11, 1999 12:12:41 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold] -- 1991 - The Year of the Palindrome (TONYW1, 20310, GO COM A2)<<<<< AWGS is another program that, following the steps I indicated,""""" keeps the icons and Command-Key equivalents, but loses the names ofthe common Edit menu functions - At least it did in the WP module when Itried it. (DZAHNISER, 20321, GO COM A2)>>>>> This and QuickClickCalc are what I was using when I noticed""""" problems with EditMenuIcons. That's when I removed it from mysystem.Jeff Carr Thu, 11 Feb 99 @ 8:26:47Cruising the 'rainbow' path provided by:Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v2.6 This is as useful as underarm deodorant for snakes. (LUMITECH, 20357, GO COM A2)>>>>> I don't have an NDA loader installed, but I have had some""""" "interesting" crashes, and other strange effects recently. I mayjust inactivate EditMenuIcons for a while, to see if these things go away.Before EditMenuIcons was installed, I had a very stable system. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat 13 Feb 99 9:14:55 pm cknoblo@novia.net - Via Spectrum v2.2 & Crock O' Gold v2.6 KansasFest 11, July 21-25, 1999 - 158 days till KFest Posted with delays off. (CKNOBLO, 20415, GO COM A2)TONY AND HAROLD SERVE UP OLD SIDER The Siders (that boot into DOS 3.3,"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" which sounds like what you have) aresetup to boot in whatever slot they were formatted/installed in. There is aslot change program on the drive. Normally people used them in slot 7, insome cases, slot 5. Could possibly be slot 6 in your case.There is a 4 byte patch in the DOS 3.3 RWTS that hooks into the Sider I/Ofirmware. Thus, INITializing a disk with the slot set to a particular slotwill also allow access to a Sider from a certain slot.Old stuff.. While I do remember some other locations in DOS 3.3 RWTS, theSider I/O, I do not.The default format was a little of each partition type, DOS 3.3, ProDOS,Pascal and CP/M. You could mix the sizes but you had to have some of eachunless you did the drive by hand, that is, running 'BRUN INSTALL.PT4' andright after hitting return hit either E or R, so that it's the next keywaiting in the buffer. If it's the right key you will get a menu thatallows you to bypass all the glitzy gory graphics and questions of theSider/Xebec Trustor software and get right to the partitioning. It's notfor the faint at heart. You need to figure the drive geometry and break itdown into sectors/tracks.Tony (T_DIAZ, 20406, GO COM A2)>>>>> SASI was the precursor of SCSI. At the hardware level it is almost""""" identical to SCSI, but at the command level there are somedifferences. (SASI = Shugart Associates System Interface, SCSI = SmallComputer System Interface)-HaroldHdwrNut on EFNet and AIMPosted by ProTERM Mac MessengerThe most damaging phrase in the language is: "It's always been done thatway." (HAROLD_H, 20423, GO COM A2)THE APPLESOFTAHOLIC ON NEW PRINT SHOP Several months ago I posted on csa2""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" an answer to a question aboutcopying New Print Shop from 5.25" discs onto 3.5" discs. I am also postingthe message here, in case anybody missed it on csa2.Last summer a question was posted about transferring the New Print Shopprogram from 5.25" discs onto a 3.5" disc. I have been experimenting withthis problem, and have successfully done such a transfer. Here is how I didit.First, format the 3.5" disc and name it NPS. Then, create 2 subdirectorieson the disc, whose names should be PS and PSL.DATA3. The PS subdirectorywill be for the program files, and the PSL.DATA3 subdirectory will be forthe graphics, fonts and borders. Now, set the prefix to PSL.DATA3, andcreate 4 new subdirectories under PSL.DATA3. These 4 new subdirectorieswill be named GRAPHICS, FONTS, BORDERS and USER.Now you need to copy the program files from the 5.25" discs onto the 3.5"disc. The program files are on the disc labelled PROGRAM DISC, and are onboth sides of the disc. Copy the files PRODOS and PS.SYSTEM onto the 3.5"disc under the root directory. Copy all the files from both sides of thedisc, with the exception of PRODOS, onto the 3.5" disc under thesubdirectory PS. There will be some duplicates of files on side A and sideB.Now you need to fix a few bytes in the PS.SYSTEM program. Since thisprogram was copied into 2 different places on the 3.5" disc, be sure to fixit in both places. It is easiest to do the fix using a block editor, suchas ZAP in ProSel. However, you could also BLOAD the program, POKE in thecorrect values, then BSAVE it back onto disc. Here are the bytes to befixed:$06 & 07 - change to $01$20 through 27 - change to $07 2F 4E 50 53 2F 50The first change tells New Print Shop that it does not have to ask you toflip the disc over for side A or side B to load program modules. The secondchange tells New Print Shop that program modules are in the subdirectory/NPS/PS.Now you have to put all the New Print Shop graphics, fonts and borders ontothe 3.5" disc. These will all go under the subdirectory DATA DISC 2. Copyall the files found in the GRAPHICS subdirectories of both sides of bothdiscs into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/GRAPHICS subdirectory on the 3.5" disc. Copyall the files from the FONTS directory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 intothe /NPS/PSL.DATA3/FONTS subdirectory. Copy all the files from the BORDERSsubdirectory on both sides of DATA DISC 1 into the /NPS/PSL.DATA3/BORDERSsubdirectory. The New Print Shop program has now been transferred from the5.25" disc to the 3.5" disc.Gerry Wright (the Applesoft-aholic)gerrywright@delphi.com (GERRYWRIGHT, 20338, GO COM A2)BALLOON BUG LOCATED IN NEW ENGLAND I just found a serious bug in Balloon.""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""When extracting a file that already exists in the destination, it will popup the usual "Rename/Skip/Overwrite" box. I clicked Skip, and the file wasnot extracted - but the existing file with that name was deleted.I had a directory and an archive of that directory. I thought the archivehad a few extra files so I extracted everything, clicking Skip on thosefiles that already existed. In the end I had an empty directory.-Ken (KEN_GAGNE, 20365, GO COM A2)>>>>> I found that one years ago. Diz was aware of it while he was still""""" on Genie. If it wasn't fixed then, and it wasn't, it is veryunlikely to be fixed now. :( (CKNOBLO, 20416, GO COM A2)RYAN ON APPLE BRAND SCSI CARDS There are basically only two Apple branded"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SCSI cards for the II:1) The Apple High Speed SCSI Card, and2) The Apple II SCSI Card, which is more commonly referred to as the Rev. C.Now, while there can be a Rev. A or Rev. B Apple II SCSI Card, the onlydifference is in the ROM chip, which could be updated for free by Applesome time ago. The last few times I've inquired, though, they insist theycan't do it anymore. Whatever.Both will work fine and dandy with an enhanced //e or IIgs (provided it'snot a Rev. A or Rev. B) and work well with SCSI hard drives. I haven'ttried CDROMs with them, but with appropriate drivers, there's no reasonthey shouldn't work. . .- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 20482, GO COM A2)MUG! AUTHOR ON AHS SCSI ISSUES I too have a Zip and AHS SCSI card. I"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" haven't yet upgraded to the Tulin drivers,although some day I must get around to it. There are a few comments worthmaking here.1. It is not so much the card that is the problem, but the GS/OS driversfor it. (Not too surprising when it can be fixed with new drivers!)2. In ProDOS 8, as far as I can tell there isn't a problem at all becausethe card is using the ROM drivers on the card itself. This is a very goodthing when I'm downloading files in ProTerm!3. Again as far as I can tell, the problem with the GS/OS driver is verysimple. The SCSI time-out value set by the driver (1/4 second?) is too low.(In fact, I've had cause to regret the low value on other occasions in thepast.) When the drive "wakes up", the first SCSI call has to wait while thedrive spins up, and the time-out value is exceeded. I had a brief look onetime but I never did find the location in the driver where the time-out isset.The really frustrating part is that a timeout error doesn't seem to behandled all that well by GS/OS. The system "sort-of" knows it got an error,but somehow "isn't sure", so that all sorts of weirdness can happen. Forexample, GS/OS may decide that the root directory has been damaged, when infact a reboot shows that nothing is wrong. OTOH, I *have* lost a rootdirectory on some occasions. :-(One rule of thumb I have is to eject and reinsert the disk if I have comeback from ProDOS 8, or if I think the disk has gone to sleep under GS/OS.The workarounds have pretty much become automatic for me, but I really mustget the Tulin drivers one day...--Peter Watson-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?-- Impossible! ;-) (PETERWATSON, 20788, GO COM A2)THE VALUE OF SHAREWARE This evening I had a really fun time with my"""""""""""""""""""""" 9-year-old. Ian's class is starting anintroduction to astronomy (stars, planets, the moon, etc.). It justhappened that the current issue of Discover magazine, in the regular columnabout stargazing, has a very good description of viewing the planets in theearly evening sky at this time of year. I was driving home this eveningwith Lady Technophobe, and saw the planets lined up as described in thearticle. I took Ian out and showed him how Jupiter was aligned with Venuson the horizon, and then...We went inside and I fired up Tonight's Sky. I showed him how the programcould display what we'd seen in the western sky, and how the planets wouldmove with time. We then opened the article, and changed the dates inTonight's Sky to match those in the text. I was able to display and printwestern sky views that corresponded with the descriptions in the text.Two years ago, there was a conjunction of the planets. I used Tonight'sSky to show the kids how they were coming 'closer' every night.Last year, one of my boys had a Physics lab to do, in which he had to gooutside every two hours and plot where the stars were. Problem was, itwas total overcast for about a week! I fired up Tonight's Sky, changed thetimes and printed the results. There was enough detail in the printouts topick out 'clusters' of stars, and to plot their movement. He was the onlykid in the class with anything to show for that lab. (OTOH - he failedPhysics miserably last year. Did well this year, tho')It's amazing what the author has packed into this program, and how accurateit is. It's one of those programs that I feel is worth every cent of theShareware fee I paid... (DZAHNISER, 20702, GO COM A2)WORKING ON THE IMAGEWRITER II To run self-test:""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 1) Hold down the FormFeed button, then, while holding it, turn it on. 2) After it has finished its little resetting, release the FormFeed. 3) It will automatically run the self-test (continuously)To adjust print darkness: 1) Before printing anything, and with the printer ON. 2) Press the SELECT button. The green light will go out. 3) The PRINT QUALITY light is actually two lights. It defaults to fast. 4) Pressing PRINT QUALITY once will be for a slower and more dense printing. 5) Pressing it again will not only slow further, but make a double pass. 6) After setting the PRINT QUALITY, press SELECT to put the printer back online.You can also increase the density of the printing by using Bold Face, if itis available, in your program.CHunk_SYour A2 Forum Host (go com a2) Visit us at: Delivered by OLRight! (v4.0) scripts for ANSITerm for the Apple IIgs (CHUNK_S, 20848, GO COM A2) RUMOR MILL """"""""""IMPROVING ON THE PAST: ANOTHER APPLE II CD ROM? In brief, what I was""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" referring to wasunnecessary duplication of files.If you're telling me that you think that the Apple II community has tochoose between getting it finished, and getting it done right, I won'targue. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.I recommend you read my reply to Udo, answering the question, "What waswrong with the AUGE CD anyway?" The answer is: "Not much"... but it hadbeen my hope that a Genie-based CD would avoid the pitfalls of earlier CDs,rather than charging ahead and making them all over again.A collection, to my mind, is more than just a dump of everything one has onhand. One has to keep in mind the cumulative effect--how will it look tothe new arrival who has never seen the collection before, and doesn'trealize it was accumulated over time?- Some may say that Genie is already mostly pre-vetted anyway. I agree, butwould like to see it quickly re-vetted if possible.- Some may say that they want all released versions--that they don't wantjust v1.0 and v3.1, they want all the versions in between as well. Iagree; I just don't want two copies of v2.2.- Some may argue that they want it "warts and all". I understand thatpoint of view too, but feel it could be balanced with "tidying" as opposedto "editing".My point was, and is, a good CD would be more than just a dump of all thefiles in the Genie library. Anthologies need editors. Editors needassistants. I was pleading to be one of the assistants--but I'll withdrawthat plea if it's going to sink the project. Doug ("They don't want it good; they want it Thursday.") C. (D_CUFF, 20670, GO COM A2)<<<<< I thought the AUGE CD was a fine amateur effort, and recommend its""""" purchase--if anyone can find one for sale second-hand. But thenature of that CD was bound to create some problems. (For those readingthat don't know the CD, the AUGE CD was a collection of "disk of themonth"s.)My biggest problem with the AUGE CD is that the disk GS.Utilities.03 (Disk062) simply does not appear on the CD. The files that appear in thatdirectory are a duplicate copy of one of the Pictures disks--GS.Pics.05(Disk 067). Quality control would have prevented such an error.An inevitable problem with the CD is duplication: CDA.ADB on GS.CDAs.01 andGS.CDAs.02; PACMAN on GS.NDAs.03 and GS.NDAs.04; SPELLBINDER 1.00 onGS.Games.02 and GS.Games.16. These are just the duplications I've noticedwhen using the disk; I haven't checked it systematically. There's alsoquite a lot of duplication in the collections of sound files, and someduplication in the collections of picture files, but I can't quote youchapter and verse here.Of course, some of this is inevitable since the disks were compiled over along time. And the CD has to be this way if it is to accurately representthe AUGE collection. I understand that. But it does point up the factthat the AUGE CD was an amateur effort.I don't want to do without amateur efforts--I'm very very pleased that AUGEmade copies of their collection for their members to buy, and then let therest of us buy too. All I'm saying is that the AUGE CD can be frustratingto use sometimes, because it could have been an appreciably better CD if ithad been possible to eliminate the duplication.That wasn't possible in the case of the AUGE CD for historical reasons.Fair enough. But let's learn from the mistakes of previous CDs, please,before another one is released? Doug C. (D_CUFF, 20671, GO COM A2)WHEN IS ANIMASIA 3D SHOWING UP ON DELPHI? A3D will be uploaded to Delphi,""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" eventually. It will also beavailable on Tony Diaz's apple2.org Web site in the near future.Two things are delaying this: 1) I have trouble uploading/downloading toDelphi. My 8-bit connection through Genie is very slow, and the A3D filesare very big (four of them at no less than 460K each). 2) I was intendingto wait until the manual/documentation files are also ready to go throughthe process. A3D isn't particularly useful, at least not for any projects,without the docs.That said, I promise to get the A3D archives uploaded here very soon. Theyare already available on Genie, and have been for several weeks. Myconnection there is faster and more reliable.I believe the manual archives will be reconstructed soon. An Apple IIcolleague of mine, Gareth Jones, has been working on alternative methodsfor presenting the manuals. (How does a collection of !Help! files sound?)But this is a big job, and takes some time.You will definitely have fun playing with this program. I hope to get sometime to learn more about it (and write an in-depth review) in a few months. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 20430, GO COM A2) PUBLIC POSTINGS """""""""""""""KANSASFEST 1999--YOUR MOMENT OF TRUTH""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ______ _____( ) ( ) ____________________________________________ | | / / ( _____________________________'99____) | | / / | | | |/ / | | II Infinitum!! | / | |______ | |\ \ | _______) __________ ________ ________ | | \ \ | | ( _____) ( ___) (__ __) | | \ \ | | | |__ \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | __) \ \ | | | | \ \ | | | |_____ ___\ \ | |(______) (________) (_______) (__________) (_________) |___|Experience The Magic!! When: July 21-25, 1999 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri+++KFest is back ... and it's never been more affordable!Check out these rates, which include room and meals from Wednesday evening(dinner) on July 21, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 25.(Saturday evening dinner not included. That's Kfesters' Night Out On TheTown!)+++ Early Bird rates (good if you register BEFORE April 15) +++ Double room: $225 Single room: $275 Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $175 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $175+++ Regular Attendee rates (if you register AFTER April 15) +++ Double room: $275 Single room: $325 Spouse rate (in case you want to bring that special person along): $225 Registration only (no dorm room or meals): $225Those cool Kfest T-shirts will also be available again this year for $15,but ONLY if you order in advance. (See registration form below.)+++ Special Early Arrivals rate +++For the very first time, Kfest will start early for those who'd like toarrive a little sooner. Avila dorms will be available for occupancy onTuesday night for a small extra fee. No formal activities will be planned,although the day may include the annual trek to KC Masterpiece Restaurantfor some of that world-famous Kansas City barbecue!The rate for early arrivals (Tuesday night dorm room only): Double room: $25 Single room: $33For attendees planning to arrive at the normal time on Wednesday, check-inwill be on from 1-4 pm. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday.Current plans call for formal Kfest sessions to begin with dinner in theAvila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed bythe traditional opening event, the Kfest Keynote Address. We've got somegreat plans for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software andhardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fairslated for Saturday afternoon.Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinnerthrough Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner.On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many finerestaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of Kfesters at Jess &Jim's Steak House or other local favorites.All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legalguardian. ***KFest this year is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makersof ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you canfind answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:kfest-help@kfest.org.. or visit the Kfest World Wide Web page at:http://www.kfest.orgIf you're thinking about attending Kfest '99, please join the Kfestinternet e-mail chat:To subscribe to the Kfest Information Mailing List, send email tomajordomo@kfest.org. In the BODY of the message, place the following text: subscribe kfestYou will receive a confirmation email. In order to be signed up for thelist, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructionsdictate. You will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list. ---[ The Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---KFest '99 Registration FormView and print this document using 9-point Monaco font (ProTERM default)or any other monospaced font such as Courier, CoPilot or Spectrum. Register for Kfest '99 By phone, fax or email: Credit card number <> Complete this form and select one option: Send this form via email to: Call the InTrec sales office: 602/992-5515 Fax this form: 602/992-0232 <> By postal mail: Credit card, check or money order. Print, fill out, and mail this form with payment. Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds. Registration Cost Check Applicable ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Early Bird rates (before April 15) Double $225 [ ] Single $275 [ ] Spouse only $175 [ ] Off campus $175 [ ]Regular rates (after April 15 and at the door) Double room $275 [ ] Single room $325 [ ] Spouse only $225 [ ] Conference only $225 [ ]Early Arrival rates Double $25 [ ] Single $33 [ ] T-Shirts $15 ea May we send your Kfest registration confirmation via email? [ ]Yes [ ]No If NO, how can we contact you forconfirmation?:____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Roommate preference:_____________________________________________________ Prefer a smoker/non-smoker. Check one: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke Kfest Softwear: Order a memorable collectible Kfest '99 T-Shirt? $15 ea Quantity: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] Size: SML MED LRG XLRG 2XLRG 3XLRG Today's Date: ________/_________/_________ 1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... ______________ 2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... ______________ 3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ............. ______________ 4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... ______________ 5- Arizona residents only add .068% tax: . ........... ______________ 6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. ______________ Discover, Visa, Mastercard or American Express accepted. Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US bank. _______________________________ ____________________________________ First Name Last Name ______________________________________________________________________ Organization (if applicable to Kfest) ______________________________________________________________________ Shipping Address ______________________________________________________________________ City _______________________________________________ _____________________ State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code _______/_______________________ _______/_____________________________ Day Phone Eve Phone [______________________________________________________________________ Internet Mail Address [ ] [ / ] Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discovery-Amex) Expiration Date ______________________________________________________________________ Name on Card (please print clearly) ______________________________________________________________________ Authorized Signature (If printed, and mailed or faxed.) If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure, considering mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice. Sponsored by: InTrec Software, Inc. 3035 E Topaz Circle Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 Voc:602/992-1345 Fax:602/992-0232 ---[ End of Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]---------[ Print Clearly ]--- (JUICEDGS, 20589, GO COM A2)>>>>> Thanks for posting the KFest registration information. I hope that""""" everyone shares this with their local users group or anyone elsethat might be interested in attending KFest '99.A few notes:We are able to check into the dorm on Tuesday, but there will be noofficial KFest activities until Wednesday evening.The "spouse rate" is for people that will be staying in the dorm and eatingthe wonderful Avila cafeteria food, but not attending any sessions. (Thisis good for parents of minors too.)There is also a reduced rate for locals, or people that prefer staying in amotel, but will be attending sessions. The only meal on this plan is theFriday night roast.The Big Cheese (CINDYADAMS, 20659, GO COM A2)NEW UPDATES FROM SHEPPY Two new software updates in the SheppyWare Apple""""""""""""""""""""""" IIgs collection!Shifty List 2.0.2-----------------This update provides a revised installer that (finally) works correctlyeven if there's a badly-installed Shifty List already in place, or ifShifty List was partially blown away by a system software reinstall. Youcan download the update, or get more information, by visiting.WebWorks GS 1.2.1-----------------This update fixes a memory leak that would cause you to lose a large blockof memory every time you quit WebWorks GS after using the HTML previewfeature. You can get more information about WebWorks GS, and download theupdate, by visiting .Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 20079, GO COM A2)GSAIM 1.0 RELEASED Get Connected On Your Apple IIgs!"""""""""""""""""" gsAIM 1.0 Now AvailablegsAIM, the Apple IIgs AOL Instant Messenger-compatible NDA, has beenreleased! This $10 shareware desk accessory lets you carry on up to 20one-on-one conversations with friends or colleagues, right on your AppleIIgs desktop. All you need is an AOL account, a free AIM account, System6.0.1, and Marinetti 2.0 (with a working connection to an ISP, of course).You can try a limited version of gsAIM -- without support for saving buddylists or your preferences -- by visiting. After you've tried it, justfill out the included registration form and mail it in, or visit my onlineordering page at to pay the fee by credit cardonline.Note to users that have already registered the software: your currentregistration code SHOULD still work; if it doesn't, email your old code tome, along with your gsAIM serial number (as displayed in the gsAIM 1.0"Please Register" window, and I'll email your new code to you). Please readthe documentation; your current preference files need to be moved to a newlocation, or you'll lose your settings and your buddy list.If you have questions about gsAIM, don't hesitate to email me:sheppy@sheppyware.net.(I'll be uploading gsAIM 1.0 to Delphi shortly)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20783, GO COM A2)<<<<< I need to correct that release slightly:"""""It implies that you need both a real AOL account and an AOL InstantMessenger account. That's not the case. You need one OR the other. You canget an AIM account (that you can use with gsAIM) for free atwww.aim.aol.com.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 20797, GO COM A2)JUICED.GS EXPLODES INTO 1999 GreetinGS!""""""""""""""""""""""""""""In about one month, Juiced.GS, the galaxy's premier IIgs-specific printedpublication, will begin its fourth year of service to the Apple II world.Do not doubt that 1999 will be another great year for the IIgs community,and for Juiced.GS.As so many of our subscribers tell us, Juiced.GS just keeps getting betterand better.How so, you ask?Judge for yourself. Here are some highlights of the past year:-- Juiced.GS ... enlisted the able assistance of Apple II experts BretVictor and Dave Tribby to teach users more about making music on theirIIgses.-- ... introduced the Apple II community to the work of Louis Cornelio, aSan Diego educator who keeps the IIgs spirit alive in his high schoolclassroom, and maintains an impressive presence on the World Wide Web.-- ... attended Kfest '98 and was the fist printed publication to offer acomplete, firsthand report of news and dramatic product unveilings thatoccurred there.-- ... was the first to publish in-depth reviews of new products such asSuperConvert 4.0, NiftySpell, WebWorks GS, GraphicWriter III 2.1, DiskAccess II, and GSoft BASIC.-- ... launched a quarterly telecommunications column by Tony Ward to helpusers of all levels get more productivity and enjoyment from their onlinetime and effort.-- ... introduced an ongoing series of articles/tutorials by Eric Shepherdabout GSoft BASIC that serves the needs of both novice and advanced users.That series will continue well into 1999.-- ... in conjunction with Mike Westerfield and the Byte Works, placed acopy of "GSoft BASIC: The Free Version" into the hands of each and everysubscriber (275 of them), so they could follow along with Shepherd's GSoftarticles and learn more about this cool new programming language.-- ... played a key role in working with Michael Lutynski to reclassify thedynamic program Animasia 3-D as shareware and make it available to the IIgscommunity.-- ... continued to offer inexpensive disk compilations for special orderfrom readers so that everyone can have access to such fabulous new softwareas Babelfish, Wolfenstein 3D, GShisen, Animasia 3-D, Fontpimp, DesktopAlarm, Marinetti and Twilight II 2.0.Indeed, Juiced.GS had a great year. (See samples of last year's product onour Web site. The URL is listed below.) And in case you missed it, The Lamp(the cool digital newsletter centered on Delphi) named our magazine thebest Apple II publication of the year!We certainly appreciate such recognition, but don't expect us to rest onour laurels. We're hard at work to make sure 1999 will be just as good, oreven better!In 1999, you will read more from Eric Shepherd about GSoft BASIC; be wowedby a stunning hardware discovery from Geoff Weiss; and learn more about therich and colorful of history of AppleWorks Classic from Gareth Jones.What's more, Juiced.GS will strive in 1999 to become the ultimate authorityand news source on the rapidly expanding area of IIgs emulation. Look foran introductory article from Ryan Suenaga on the meteoric rise of the"Virtual GS" in the upcoming issue -- Volume 4, Issue 1 -- due out in midMarch.Juiced.GS will, of course, be in Kansas City for Kfest '99. And as newproducts and upgrades are released throughout the year, you can count on usbeing right there to report the news and present reviews.Renewals have been coming in since the final issue of 1998 was published,and we're getting a number of new subscribers as well. But if you haven'tyet renewed, or have been putting off subscribing, now is the time to moveahead and become part of the Juiced.GS gang.A 1999 subscription is $14 in the U.S., Canada and Mexico; $20 elsewhere inthe world.As a special promotion, new 1999 subscribers will get the final issue of1998 FREE. (That issue contains the first GSoft BASIC tutorial/article anda copy of GSoft BASIC: The FREE Version.)To subscribe or renew, send $14 ($20 overseas) in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882We're working hard to keep the Apple II community alive and well. Pleasejoin us. And when you do, we believe you'll find that with us ..."Apple II Forever!".. is more than just a slogan. Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 20390, GO COM A2)MARINETTI AUTHOR ON THE MOVE Over the next month or so, I'll be moving"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" house, so apart from spending even less timeonline than I have been the past few months, that means my address willalso be changing.If you have an address for me, then please email me the address you have.I'll email you the new one.If you have my P.O. box address, then that's OK, because it won't bechanging.Thanks, Richard (RICHARD_B, 20649, GO COM A2)SIS 1.1 FEATURES ON THE WEB The SevenHills Web Site has been updated to""""""""""""""""""""""""""" provide the new features and improvements inSIS 1.1. The URL for this information is:http://www.sevenhills.com/applesoftware/iigs/sis/sisv11.htm (SISGEOFF, 20738, GO COM A2) BEST OF THE BEST """"""""""""""""20477 16-FEB 00:44 Telecommunications RE: Modem cable (Re: Msg 20476) From: JBLAKENEY To: UDOHUTHI continue to use communications programs on my IIgs because I much preferto use my IIgs to using my Windows machine. It is much more pleasurableand less stress inducing.Secondly, and probably more importantly, it is more convenient for me to doso. It is much nicer to download/upload files directly to/from my IIgs.It saves me having to null-modem stuff to my Pentium II before/after thetransfer.It also makes more sense to me to deal with Apple II related messages usingmy Apple II. Keep in mind that most of my online activities revolve aroundthe Apple II. My Pentium II is used for work and for those 3D shoot-em-upgames. My IIgs is also used for some work and games as well as pretty mucheverything else I do.Why do I use my IIgs for so much when I have a much faster machine sittingbeside it? Because I already own and know how to use the programs that Ihave on my IIgs and they get the job done for me. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro ** HyperCard IIgs Course now in session! **[EOA][A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY |-----------------------------------Checking out A2PRO on Delphi""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net]MORE ON FOUNDATION SOURCE As I recall, Marc released source to Genie,""""""""""""""""""""""""" though I don't think anything ever came of it.Do you know whether the source may be uploaded to Delphi? And do you knowsomeone who has a copy?YoursSoenke (SBEHRENS, 2454, GO COM A2)>>>>> I have the source. It's incomplete and mostly useless as it stands""""" because key low-level portions of the code were never released. Itried for two years to get the rest of the code but never could. It's veryunfortunate.Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2455, GO COM A2)<<<<< too bad. Foundation could have been a really nice thing ... oh""""" well. Was a reason given for not releasing the entire code?YoursSoenke (SBEHRENS, 2456, GO COM A2)>>>>> Marc Wolfgram released the code he had. Jim Murphy had the rest of""""" it, and he never got around to uploading it anywhere.Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2459, GO COM A2)BERNIE AUTHOR PATCHES TOOLBOX, FILM AT 11 I'm having big trouble with a""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" toolbox patch.I have installed a toolbox patch (successfully...and yes, the address isone less :), but what I see on the stack does not correspond to what I'mexpecting. here's the situation:the toolbox call (input parms) has the form:return parameter (long)input parameter (word, =0)When I do a tsc stal brk right at the very beginning of my function to seewhere the stack pointer is, I take that value and check the memory whichreturns:03 2D 01 FE 9E 9B 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00I can't explain that the first four bytes are. I would expect that thestack pointer was pointing at the 9E 9B 0B instead which is the rtladdress. The six zeroes afterwards match the input and return values.I have looked at the stack diagram in Appendix A Toolbox Ref 2, and itclearly states that the stack pointer is pointing at the rtl address whenmy toolbox function is called. Looking at the stack, I can't confirm this.What am I missing?Thanks a lot!!- henrik (GUDATH, 2461, GO COM A2)>>>>> Keep in mind that there are TWO return addresses on the stack when""""" your toolbox function is called, not one. That's because theToolbox provides that auxiliary entry point that provides for a call to adispatch subroutine. Very few people use DISPATCH2 ($E1/0004), but it'sthere. Because of that, DISPATCH ($E1/0000) adds a second return address tothe stack, so the stack is consistent regardless of which dispatch vectorwas used.Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2464, GO COM A2)LOCALTALK TO ETHERNET SOLUTIONS? My latest MacWarehouse (UK) catalogue"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" shows a new product from Asante. It iscalled AsanteTalk (Part #99-00505-03), and connects Ethernet to up to 8AppleTalk machines or printers.It also says it includes all necessary cables, which presumably means thatit is acting as a form of hub for the 8 AppleTalk devices.They are primarily promoting it that it can connect an iMac to other Macsetc., but presumably we could use it to the IIgs AppleTalk port.Whether this is any answer to our IIgs Ethernet problem, I don't know...The cost in the UK is GBP85, so I would expect it to be around $100 in theStates. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 9 Feb 1999 - 162 days till KFest '99 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 2.6 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing on a PowerMac 8200/120 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 2472, GO COM A2)>>>>> I found it more cost effective to get a $30 SE/30 from Goodwill and""""" an Ethernet Card I had lying around, then using Apple's LocalTalkBridge to get it working. . . problem is that the software isn't easy tofind, and neither is a good deal on a compact Mac with Ethernet card.- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 2473, GO COM A2)>>>>> I'll point out that MacIP does not work across LocalTalk Bridge, so""""" if you want to do Internet across LocalTalk to an Ethernet, youhave to use a hardware solution.Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2476, GO COM A2)>>>>> Last I checked, Vicom didn't provide a LocalTalk to Ethernet""""" bridge (I could be wrong). But it's a $300 or more piece ofsoftware too. You can get an EtherWave adapter for way less than that (evenat retail pricing, you can get it for $150 or less), and it doesn't drainresources from a server that's bridging the networks.LocalTalk Bridge works great for AppleShare and printing, just not forMacIP. If you don't need MacIP support, it's a really good way to go(especially since it's free :).Eric "Sheppy" ShepherdMacintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 2479, GO COM A2)>>>>> Farallon has (or had, last I looked) LocalTalk Bridge available for""""" download free on their web site. Apple no longer supports it, andin fact it's slightly broken on Mac OS 8.5 (if you switch from Printer Portto Ethernet in AppleTalk control panel with LTB active, the system willcrash). But it still works otherwise.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherdsheppy@sheppyware.nethttp://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2485, GO COM A2)GNO PROGRAMMING ALLOWED The first general release of the GNO Base""""""""""""""""""""""" Distribution since GNO 2.0.4 is now available.See http://www.gno.org/~gno for details.While there are still many things left to be done for the GNO BaseDistribution, this is the first publicly available version of GNO 2.0.6that is fully runnable.Note that the 15 February 1999 release does not include networking support.You assistance in making GNO better would be appreciated. Even if you arenot a programmer, your feedback is valuable. Problems and recommendationsshould be made via the GNO Bugs database athttp://www.gno.org/~gno/bugs.html. Discussion should, as usual, take placeon either the USENET newsgroup comp.sys.apple2.gnoor the Delphi Programmers' Forum at http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=a2proNow that the mechanisms are in place for automated builds, you can expectGNO updates on a more regular basis.My thanks goes out to the GNO-Devel team and everyone else who haveprovided assistance and feedback.Devin Reade15 February 1999 (GLYNREADE, 2489, GO COM A2)MIKE WESTERFIELD TO TEACH GSOFT COURSE ON DELPHI Take control of your"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Apple IIGS with GSoftBASIC!You've heard the old-timers talking about how they got started on ApplesoftBASIC, grabbing control of their machine and teaching it to work their way.Now you can learn how to take control of your Apple IIGS using a modern,supported version of BASIC that has all the features the early Apple IIprogrammers only dreamed about!Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC starts right here on Delphi on March 1st inthe A2Pro chat area. You'll learn GSoft BASIC from the author of the mostwidely used programming tools on the Apple IIGS, then and now, MikeWesterfield. He's also the author of the text for the course, a newself-paced tutorial book called Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC.The course is divided into fourteen lessons, which cover the entireAdvanced Placement Computer Science curriculum. You'll learn the BASICprogramming language and the essential programming skills you need to writereal programs--skills like sorting, searching, managing stacks, andmanipulating trees.Each week we'll meet in the Delphi chat room to discuss any problems you'rehaving, expand on the materials in the book, and cover any questions youhave that the book doesn't deal with. We'll cover one lesson a week, butyou're free to work ahead, and you can keep coming if you fall a bitbehind, too.Prerequisites: None.Workload: Expect to spend 2 to 6 hours per week on the course, depending on your background. Check on www.delphi.com, A2Pro chat area, on February 22nd for the first week's assignment.Cost: None. (But there is a required text. See Text, below.)Hardware and software requirements: 1. Apple IIGS with 1.125M of RAM and a 3.5" floppy disk drive. A hard drive and 4M of RAM are nice, but not actually necessary. 2. A printer is nice, but not required. 3. A color display is nice, but not required. 4. System 6.0.1. 5. GSoft BASIC. You can buy the commercial version or download the free one; either will work for this course. Visit http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for either version. You can also purchase the commercial version directly from the Byte Works, Inc. Contact information appears at the end of this letter.Text: Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC, available from the Byte Works, Inc.Cost: $50; $40 to those signed up for the Delphi course. Shipping is $5 in the US and Canada. Contact the publisher for shipping charges to other locations.Contents: 240 page self-paced tutorial with problems, solution disk. Chapters: Getting Started Variables and Loops Input, Loops and Conditions Subroutines Arrays Types and Constants Files Pointers and Lists Miscellaneous Useful Stuff Scanning Text Recursion Sorts Searches and TreesYou can purchase Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC from the Byte Works, Inc.The expected ship date is February 15th, 1999.If you have questions about the Delphi course, GSoft BASIC, or Learn toProgram in GSoft BASIC, contact the Byte Works, Inc. Byte Works, Inc. 8000 Wagon Mound Dr. NW Albuquerque, NM 87120 Voice: (505) 898-8183 FAX: (505) 898-4092 E-mail: MikeW50@aol.com Web Site: http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks (JBLAKENEY, 2491, GO COM A2)>>>>> Due to a problem with printing the course text, I'm bumping the""""" starting date to March 8th rather than March 1st.The course text should be back from the printer sometime this week. Ifyou'd like to order your copy now, feel free--we're taking orders, and willmail them as soon as we get the books back.When you order, be sure to let us know if you're using the free version orthe commercial version. If you're registered, we'll figure out that you ownthe commercial version, but if you're not registered, we need to get thatstraightened out. We'll be sending free updates out with each order for thecourse. If you've never bought the course and don't have GSoft BASIC, theFREE Version!, we'll send you a copy of the free version automatically.Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2498, GO COM A2)>>>>> Check out http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks for lots of details""""" about the course, GSoft BASIC, and support materials. You'll findinformation about:1. The course text, Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC.2. GSoft BASIC, both the commercial and free versions.3. ORCA/Debugger, which you might find useful while working through the course.4. Details on how to order products like the course text from us. Drop me a note or post here if you have questions.Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2499, GO COM A2)GSOFT 1.2 RELEASED Version 1.2 of GSoft BASIC, the newest Apple IIGS"""""""""""""""""" language from the Byte Works, is now available.Version 1.2 fixes several bugs and adds a few new features to GSoft BASIC1.1.The new features include a HEX$ command for converting numbers tohexadecimal format; two new pragmas for blocking CTRL-C interrupts while aprogram runs, and blocking tool errors when a program completes; supportfor named labels instead of just line numbers; the ability to jump out of astructured statement; support for type characters in tool interface files;and optional parameters for the RENUMBER command.Registered owners of GSoft BASIC can get the upgrade free when they orderany other product from the Byte Works, Inc. If you are not ordering anotherproduct, you can still get the upgrade worldwide for a $5 shipping andhandling charge.GSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! has also been updated. You can downloadGSoft BASIC, The FREE Version! Version 1.2 from the Byte Works web site.Check out all the details, including the upcoming GSoft BASIC course onDelphi, on our web site at http://www.hypermall.com/byteworks. (BYTEWORKS, 2502, GO COM A2)[EOA][TVT]------------------------------ THE VIRTUAL ][ |-----------------------------------Sheppy's ImageMaker Boosts Bernie's Bones~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] IMAGEMAKER MAKES SETTING UP BERNIE A BREEZE FOR CURRENT IIGS USERS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the December issue of _The Lamp!_, we took a look at how to moveyour IIgs hard drives over to your Power Macintosh running a copy of_Bernie ][ The Rescue_ using Zip Drives or other removable large storagemedia. Since then, one of the most prolific Apple II programmers of recenttimes, Eric Shepherd, aka Sheppy, has released a new program that makesthis older method obsolete and requires nothing in the way of additionalhardware. His new program, _ImageMaker_, can take RAMdisks, floppy disks,or hard disks attached to your IIgs and turn them into usable images forBernie to bone up with. _ImageMaker_ is a $5 IIgs shareware product. With it, you can createtwo types of images: DiskCopy 4.2, which is a standard disk image intendedfor floppy diskettes on the Macintosh (these images are limited by theDiskCopy format to 800k and 1440k disks), and Universal Disk Image, whichis a disk image format that has become popular with Apple II emulators,including _Bernie_. Neither of these formats are compressed, so you canfigure an image of an 800k diskette actually taking up a slight bit morespace than 800k, for instance. The advantage of using DiskCopy images is that they can actually beread by your Macintosh as disks and written back to real disks. The majordisadvantage would be that only 800k and 1440k sizes are officiallysupported. While the Universal Disk Image format cannot be read by yourMac (or other computer) as if it were a real disk nor written back to areal disk, it can be used with several different emulators and can handleany size of disk, making it ideal for hard drives. To use it most efficiently, you need to set up an AppleTalk networkbetween your IIgs and Power Mac. There have been many other articleswritten about this subject so we will not cover it here. Once your networkhas been set up and you have logged on with your IIgs to your Mac (makingsure you have sufficient hard disk space for disk images of your IIgsvolumes), simply start _ImageMaker_. The interface is extremely simple tofollow: just choose which disk you wish to make an image of, which of thetwo formats you want the image to be in, then save it to your mounted MacAppleshare volume. Once _ImageMaker_ is done doing its thing, you willhave a disk image (regardless of whether you choose DiskCopy or UniversalDisk Image format) that _Bernie_ will be able to mount through its "MountDisk" option. _Much_ simpler than the Zip Drive method discussed inDecember! So, for you die-hard Apple II fans who are putting _Bernie_ on yournew Power Macs, the $5 shareware fee is well worth it. This is thesimplest method yet to get your Virtual II up and running. Get_ImageMaker_ as soon as you possibly can! :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : If this were an actual wisecrack, it would be funny. : : : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH ::::::[EOA][INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in""""""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi onlineservice (GO CUS 11).This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computersusing Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1999 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.net.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do notnecessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services,Syndicomm, Inc., or Ryan M. Suenaga. Forum messages are reprintedverbatim and are included in this publication with permission from theindividual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Ryan M.Suenaga do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any informationincluded herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy.Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without theexpressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer usergroups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties maywrite the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[EOF] .