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An Onipa'a Software Production       Vol. 1, No. 2 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Internet Email........................................thelamp@delphi.com ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                             TABLE OF CONTENTS                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                             February 15, 1998OPENING PITCH     It May Be a MacWorld, But It's An Apple II Heart --------------- [OPN]A FUNNY THING HAPPENED                                                [FOR]     The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET]     Miscellanea                                                      [MSC]     Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR]     Public Postings                                                  [PUB]     Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB]A2Pro_DUCTIVITY     Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P]HARDWORKING HARDWARE     Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card ------------------------------ [HAR]WEB SLINGING 101     Telnetting To Delphi ------------------------------------------- [WEB]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         :                                                       :         :          Serenity is not freedom from the storm,      :         :               but peace amid the storm.               :         :                                                       :         :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GOLDFISCHE :::[EOA][OPN]------------------------------                     OPENING PITCH |-----------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                    [thelamp@delphi.com]             IT MAY BE A MACWORLD, BUT IT'S AN APPLE II HEART             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     I needed a vacation.  I wasn't burnt out at work, but I was set onhigh and ready to boil over, for sure.  So, I used a combination ofexcuses: reasonable airfare prices, wanting to see my good friends theSheppys (aka Sarah and Eric Shepherd), and MacWorld Expo in San Franciscoto get myself on a plane from the islands to the bay area on a Monday nightin early January and into the San Francisco International Airport so Icould have some fun and get myself to cool down enough to be ready to goback to the islands called Paradise and my personal adventure called work.     I'd been to computer trade shows before, at home, and KansasFest, ofcourse, but never something as huge or as hyped as MacWorld Expo.  Boothafter booth after booth of software and hardware--and much of the hardwarewas Apple II savvy as well--the latest and greatest in technology.  Fun itwas, yes indeed.     Even more fun was to see some of our old Apple II friends there.Besides myself and the Sheppys, Westcode Software--publisher of_Pointless_, among other Apple II titles--was there, with erstwhile BeagleBrother Rob Renstrom showing off their latest Mac software, and we ran intoBurger Bill Heineman, the legendary Apple II programmer, as well.     But the most fun I had in the bay area wasn't at MacWorld; it was onFriday night at Midwinter PizzaFest 1998.     There I didn't see bunches of booths or the latest and greatest incomputing technology; I didn't get free buttons or free bags or enter acontest to win a zillion dollars.  What I did see were four friends ofmine--Eric and Sarah Shepherd, Paul Parkhurst, and Joe Kohn--who knew meprimarily through the Apple II, and some warm pizza for a cool night.     We laughed and talked and reminisced and planned for the future, andafter the pizza and soda was gone we kept talking on for hours and hoursuntil it was past midnight.     I guess it just goes to show that sometimes it's not the latest andgreatest that makes a difference--it's the old reliable, what you've beendoing for years and years and years.     Times are different and things have changed from the world of 1986.As far as Apple Computer, Inc. is concerned, for instance, it's a MacWorldnow.     But for those of us who were raised on an Apple II, that doesn'tmatter.  Indeed, it is we who Think Different.  And Feel Different.     Even in a MacWorld, I still have an Apple II Heart.                                [*] [*] [*]     First month's response to _The Lamp!_ has been overwhelminglypositive, if underwhelmingly low in volume, which makes me wonder ifperhaps I haven't made it clear how to get in touch with us.     To reach _The Lamp!_ by Internet email, simply send email to:     thelamp@delphi.com     and it will automagically be forwarded to me.  If you like to cruisethe Internet, there's even a mail link off of our Home Page at:     http://www.sheppyware.ml.org/~rsuenaga     If you are unable to send email or for some other reason want tocommunicate with us through regular postal channels, you can send regularmail to:     Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.     Editor, The Lamp!     45-021 O'opuhue Place     Kane'ohe, HI  96744     However, don't expect a quick response going that route.  I may loveemail, but I hate writing letters.                                [*] [*] [*]     Next Verse, Same As The First, A Little Bit Louder And A Little BitWorse Department: at one point in time, there was a _GenieLamp A2Pro_, andboth before and after that, we had sections in _GenieLamp A2_ (and for thatmatter, _GEnieLamp A2_) covering the A2Pro RoundTable on Genie.  In thissecond issue of _The Lamp!_, we can welcome (or, if you choose, welcomeback) A2Pro_DUCTIVITY, where we'll feature the A2Pro Geek Gang as theyprove to the world that the Apple II is alive and well.                                [*] [*] [*]     I had hoped after my editorial last month I wouldn't have to coverthis again, but it seems I do.     This publication is only to be distributed via the _IIScribe_ Forum onDelphi (GO CUS 11) for the first thirty days after its publication.  Afterthat, it will be placed on its web page at the URL listed above.  Any otherdistribution without authorization is an infringement of copyright law.This includes downloading it from Delphi and emailing it to a friend, orputting it on a user group bulletin board, or posting it to Usenet.     Several Apple II supporters are authorized to distribute _The Lamp!_including:     Shareware Solutions II     Apple Blossom Publishing     Juiced.GS     Apple II Update     Alltech Electronics     If you are part of a legitimate Apple II business or supportingorganization such as a user group and are interested in distributing _TheLamp!_ at no cost, please contact me.  Remember, every time someoneillegally distributes this publication, or any other Apple II product, wecome closer to the time when no more support exists for the Apple II seriesof computers.  That would be a sad day indeed.                                [*] [*] [*]     Oh, and a quick reminder:     KansasFest 1998 registration is happening NOW!  See the message in the_A FUNNY THING HAPPENED_ section to find out how to be part of Apple IIhistory.     Keep thinking KFest '98.     And keep thinking Blatant Plug.     I'll see you all in Kansas City in July.Ryanthelamp@delphi.comASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA][OPN]------------------------------     A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . |-----------------------------------Checking out A2 on Delphi"""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                    [thelamp@delphi.com]       * The Heat Is On              * Miscellanea                     * Rumor Mill                            * Public Postings                                        * Best Of The Best                              THE HEAT IS ON                              """"""""""""""     [*] Off-Line Readers       ....... Even More Crock     [*] Entertainment Software ....... Wolf!  Wolf!  Wolf!     [*] The Apple II Legacy    ....... KansasFest Gets An Early Start     [*] Telecommunications     ....... SIS Wish List                                MISCELLANEA                                """""""""""APPLE'S APPLE II SOFTWARE, PART I   Does any body know if the software for"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   running the IIe Card in the Performasis still available and if it's public domain?I'm particularly needing the following.LC 475 Running system 7.01Looking for version 2.2, 32 Bit addressing, of IIe start up software forthe IIE Mac CardNick Heywood                                           _ --_|\IIGS 'What in the world do you want to do today?'     /       \Delivered By Spectrum 2.1, Crock O' Gold 2.1,        |   ___   |   aboutMarinetti TCP/IP                                      \_/   \_/  <-- here                          from an Apple IIGS.                       (NICKH, 9857, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Try ftp://ftp.apple.com/dts/aii/lc.iiecard/"""""   [Or other places with a license to copy that] Like other systemsoftware, it's copyright by Apple and not PD.Nathan Mates                       (NMATES, 9865, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   sorry for bringing bad news: There is *no* version of the IIe Setup"""""   (the IIe card driving software) compatible with 32 bit memaddressing. So, when you want to use the A2e card you can only use 8 MB memin your Mac :((. The latest version of the IIe Setup software is 2.2.1. Thecard should work in all Mac with a LC pds slot type (i.e. even in aPerforma 630 - aside the Dos compatible type of them).When you're trying that card, I'd be highly interested in exchangingexperiences especially on 2 points: the (virtual) SuperSerial card and the(virtual) Workstation card! Will you?Aside Nathan's suggestion where to find the card's software, you can alsotry any ftp.support.apple.com server (directory: pub/software/usa/appleIIor something like that). To drive Prodos on the Mac properly you'd alsoneed or the older (sys 7.1) ProDos FileSystem extension, or PCExchange(which comes with sys 7.5. and higher). Personally, I prefer the ProdosFileSystem extension (which works fine also with sys 7.6.1) because I'musing DOSMounter95 instead of PCEXchange.Please share your experiences :)Best regards, Ulrich[ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.0 ]                     (UHAUSMANN, 9870, GO COM A2 FOR)APPLE'S APPLE II SOFTWARE, PART II   Some (but not all) of Apple's disks""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   are online, including the SCSI utilsat (sorry for real long URL, looks like Apple thinks nobody'd ever want totype such a thing manually :)ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Apple_II/Apple_II_Supplemental/Apple_II_SCSI_Utilities.bxyNathan                       (NMATES, 9350, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Tony Ward, aka Conan The Librarian, has the final say on if this"""""   can be in the library.  Maybe on his next pass he can say if havingit here is okay or not.> Is there still a problem with Apple Corp on availability of those hard> drive utility disks?Nope.> If they are available, does anyone know where I can ftp or download them> from?  How about one of Apples own sites?Okay.ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Apple.Software.Updates/US/Apple_II/Apple_II_Supplemental/Apple_II_SCSI_Utilities.bxyAll on one line :)Why anyone needs this, though, I don't know.  Chinook SCSI Utils isfreeware, and available off of Alltech's home page (http://www.allelec.com)and does more than Apple's 8 bit utils, including working with both theApple Rev. C and AHS cards.  If you have a GS, ADU does more, but that'sreadily available :)RyanThink KFest '98!Delivered by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm                      (RSUENAGA, 9353, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   I'll have to check our license, so give me a day or two to find it"""""   (it's around here somewhere.) However, unless I'm mistaken it seemsthat the Chinook utilities would be a better choice anyway. ----------------------------------------------------- Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19] --                       (TONYW1, 9357, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   We are now licensed for everything that is available from the ftp"""""   sites (and a few other things besides. :)Gary R. Utter                       (UTTER, 9374, GO COM A2 FOR)IIGS TELECOMM SPEED FROM THE MASTERS   It may not be what he meant, but""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   running your serial connection at57600 is not a good idea unless you have a super slim and super fast IIGS,and even then I'd recommend against it.While the IIGS can handle it physically, in most cases IIGS software cannothandle data coming in that quickly.Many folks run a 57600 port speed, but either direct connect to another boxand use a paced protocol like XMODEM, or have the modem run at 28.8.Running 57600 port *AND* modem<-->modem speeds is simply asking fortrouble.Regards, Richard                     (RICHARD_B, 8934, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   To add to what Richard has said..."""""The golden rule is to set your baud rate to the maximum speed that yourmodem can give. If that speed is not available, then use the next higherspeed. Never go higher than that, as you will only give yourself trouble!The reason... Incoming data will stream in so fast that the interruptsystem may have problems dealing with it. This will be true, even if youhave actually made a connection at 2400 baud, as the data will arrive inbursts at the computer-modem speed not the modem-host speed.Now all this was OK when we only had 28.8K modems to consider. On anaccelerated IIgs, a computer-modem speed of 38400 baud worked fine. Nowthat we have 56K modems, you may find that a computer-modem speed of 57600baud is way over the edge. Whether it will work cleanly, without droppedcharacters, will depend on what you Inits have loaded on your IIgs, whatspeed your accelerator is running at, what comms program you are using,whether AppleTalk is active or not, etc. etc. Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                      (EWANNOP, 8960, GO COM A2 FOR)APPLEWORKS, RAMFAST, AND PRODOS 8   Ramfast users Beware! :)"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I had a problem using Appleworks 5.1 from finder in my system until Idisabled Ram5 volume.  Turns out, the actual culprit was far too manydevices per slot than P8 could ever handle.  De activating some non p8useful partitions restored my Appleworks to it's previous glorious state.Tim                       (TIM_K, 8904, GO COM A2 FOR)APPLEWORKS AND. . . GOATS?   I am working on (revamping) a data system for""""""""""""""""""""""""""   my goat herd, which requires severalAppleWorks database files to be loaded at once.  I seem to recall thatsomeone came up with a utility to batch load several AppleWorks files.Anyone know where I can get this, if it exists?Thanks! - Don (IronTooth)Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight!                     (DZAHNISER, 8980, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Uhm, yes."""""start >>  No. File Name             Type Address      YYMMDD Bytes   Access Lib----- ------------------------ - ------------ ------ ------- ------ ---25306 BATCH14.BXY              X R.FISCHER7   950713   43520     77  40      Desc: Batch Load for AW 4.0 to 5.1Number: 25306  Name: BATCH14.BXYAddress: R.FISCHER7                Date: 950713Approximate # of bytes: 43520Number of Accesses: 77  Library: 40Description:This version of Batch Loader is like the last one except that it workswith Appleworks 4.0 to 5.1 so you don't have to worry about the changein the dot commands that AW 5.1 brought in. Includes compiled versionsfor AW 4.x and 5.x. Includes Batch Editor of course. Also has a versionthat can be used as a task file (thus allowing you to "CALL" the macrofrom any special macro set you may have without returning to the defaultmacros. Other than that, it works the same.Packed with ShrinkIt 3.4.Keywords: Batch Loader,Batch.Loader,Appleworks,Autoload,Macro,Timeout<< endI'll see what I can do about ulding it here, if it isn't already.-- Mark Wade                       (MSWADE, 8984, GO COM A2 FOR)EVEN MORE APPLEWORKS   I'm wondering if anyone here has had experience,""""""""""""""""""""   preferably technically, with bar Code readers.The little I do know leads me to speculate that I can get AppleworksClassic to recognize and work with a Bar Code reader.The biggest problem I'm having is understanding how you generate the BarCodes themselves.If someone puts their hand up for this, just be prepared for a series offurther question, if that's ok.I am fairly clueless with this, but believe there is potential for this towork.Thanks.Nick.Oh P.S.  I am aware of ADB Bar Code Scanners and that's what I intend to bedealing with.Nick Heywood                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,                          Marinetti TCP/IP                         from an Apple IIGS.                       (NICKH, 9628, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   I purchased an Apple IIGS a few years ago that had been used with a"""""   bar code reader. He used it to scan into DB MAster Professional.Printing Bar codes might be a little trickier. Maybe Superfonts could doit? Possibly use a utility to convert a font to Superfonts format wouldwork.Brian Gillespie, Jaunt! Software                       (JAUNT, 9638, GO COM A2 FOR)<<<<<   The next step I need to get my thinking through is how the Bar"""""   Code's are issued to a particular item?For instance.......An item is presented without a Bar Code and is also the first of it's kindto be entered into a DataBase of items and so therefore there is no recordof it's existence.How is the BarCode to be issued?I have heard of Bar Coding standards/kinds, but how are they followed? andwhat is their formula for issuing codes, assuming there is a formula andit's not random?The next thing I would like to know is a little about how scanner works,Technically.  Does a scanner issue a carriage return once a code is read,believe it or not this is an important point.RegardsNick HeywoodSorry No SIG :)                       (NICKH, 9648, GO COM A2 FOR)<<<<<   As I mentioned to Nathan, I imagine I'll need to use SuperFonts to"""""   print them, coupled with some macro's.Pointless should be able to convert TT Font to a SuperFont format.  Ithink, off memory, Superfonts handles Standard Fonts that might be used insay an 8 bit program like PublishIt etc.  I think I had a fiddle with thissort of thing a few years ago.One thing that keeps recurring in my thoughts on this is the BubbleJetQuality factor.  Can a BubbleJet, using Bit Mp Fonts, produce higher enoughquality for a BarCode Reader?Nick Heywood                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,                          Marinetti TCP/IP                         from an Apple IIGS.                       (NICKH, 9651, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   I've located a couple of files in the Genie Library that may be"""""   assistance on the topic of bar codes.One is a bar code bitmap font, the other is an archive of AppleWorks files.I will upload these on my next pass through. Hope they're helpful.Genie's Library is awesome ... :-) Max Jones, Juiced.GS http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs Delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.2                      (JUICEDGS, 9681, GO COM A2 FOR)CONAN ON DELPHI DATABASE FILENAMES   I did notice a problem with""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   TODOLIST98.1.BXY. Notice anything oddabout that filename? It's got 16 characters, and that's one too many. Idon't mean to pick on Max (he uploaded this file) but I wanted to take thisopportunity to point out one of the rules of uploading files here:Make sure you use ProDOS-legal filenames and make sure the ShrinkItfilename matches the Binary II filename. Basically, this means keeping thefilenames to 15 alphanumeric characters or less, beginning with a letter,and containing no more than one period (that last one is a Delphilimitation.) If you have ShrinkIt add the Binary II for you, the filenameswill match. If you have your telecom program add it, just make sure youtype in the exact same name you used when you created the archive withShrinkIt, but use the .BXY suffix instead of .SHK.It may seem a bit nit picky, but by sticking to a standard format we reducethe chances of problems. - Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager                       (TONYW1, 8956, GO COM A2 FOR)SCREEN SHOTS, IIGS STYLE   While we're on Screen Shots etc........""""""""""""""""""""""""I had a Great little CDA that saved a SHR screen to a Dir you had to inputat the time of the save and it was great.  I used it to build the PMPfaxStack.  I can't find the thing:(.  I do have backups of my boot partitionbut not in the time I had that this CDA installed.  I have no idea where Igot this from either.  I fiddle with sec hand hard drives and went througha stage of downloading everything I found, so it could've come fromanywhere.Anybody familiar with this one or where you can get "Screenprint" asmentioned previously?                   Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1,                         Crock O' Gold 2.1,                          Marinetti TCP/IP                         from an Apple IIGS.                       (NICKH, 9064, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   I use SHR Variable Timed Save all the time. In fact, the latest"""""   version of it was updated by our own Tony Ward, A2 Database Poobah.As someone else mentioned, the trick is finding where the screen is saved.It should be in the last active folder. If you're shooting in Finder, itshould be in the root directory or System folder.Do a system search using one of the Find File NDAs on "Screen.A". Thatshould tell you where the booger has landed. Max Jones, Juiced.GS (http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs) Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1                      (JUICEDGS, 9068, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   And for that matter, I have a CDA that I wrote many years ago.  It"""""   simply asks you for a filename (you can give a full pathname if youwish) and saves the current SHR screen to disk.  I haven't really testedit, but it has always worked fine for me.If anybody is interested, I'm uploading it to the database.  Look forSHRSAVER.BXY when it is released.Later,Aaron                      (APULVER, 9071, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   ScreenPrint also uses a standard file dialog to let you pick the"""""   name and place for the file. I suspect I got it from Genie, but Ididn't keep records.  -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Via Crock O' Gold v2.1 Follow the Yellow Brick Road to KFest 10 - July 22-26, 1998 cknoblo@novia.net                      (CKNOBLO, 9074, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Unfortunately, that version (and the original) doesn't provide a"""""   user selectable save path. It just uses the current Standard Filedirectory, which is usually the last one you worked with.I have a completely new version just about finished. As soon as I get donewith the new Border Tracker I'll polish off SHR Snapshot and upload ithere. Among other things, it will let you select the save path andfilename. ----------------------------------------------------- Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19] -- Anyone could do it with manuals...                       (TONYW1, 9120, GO COM A2 FOR)SUGGESTIONS FOR SIS   I mentioned this awhile ago, but just wanted to"""""""""""""""""""   remind the good folks working on SIS of a rathersimple feature I'd like to see in the next version... automatic subjectfills on mailto links. Now, the reason I'd love to see this feature issimple. To anyone who's ever been to my web page with Netscape or IE knowsI have a simple BBS running, which relies on e-mail instead of a fancyscript/applet. If SIS supports auto-subjects in e-mail, I can bring the BBSto the SIS version of my site! And *that* would be cool. :)Any chance? Thanks!- Matt                        (MPORTUNE, 9055, GO COM A2)>>>>>   if/when I get around to a SIS upgrade, I'm sure that will be one of"""""   the first set of features added. I have known about this limitationof the mailto: URL shortly after SIS was released. The problem is thatthere is no official documentation how the syntax is implemented. It is alittle hard adding the feature and making sure that something else won'tget broken or something else won't get supported since this is aNetscape/Microsoft specific option.I am very open hearing about other features that SIS needs that wasn'timplemented in version 1.0.Geoff                        (SISGEOFF, 9078, GO COM A2)<<<<<   I have some more non-standard requests for you, Geoff. :) I was"""""   just double-checking the HTML generated by my BBS program, and itturns out there's another issue that SIS doesn't seem to support... a funky"To:" header. Here's an example. When someone comes to the board and clickson "Post a new message" it's actually a mailto tag with a funky "To:"header, like this...href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]""When the user clicks it, a mail window opens up, with the TO: field filledin exactly like this:"[Blue Monday:General]"("Blue Monday" is the name of the board, "General" is the name of themessage base, and the rest is my address)Let's say the user fills in "Test" as the subject, then proceeds to writeand send their message. After the message shows up on the board, andsomebody chooses to reply to it, the HTML for the "reply" mailto tag lookslike this:href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]"?Subject=Re: Test"And when the user clicks it, the mail window's TO: field (which is the sameas before) looks like:"[Blue Monday:General]"and the subject is already filled in as:Re: TestWhen I tried it under SIS, the TO: field was completely blank - not eventhe standard address. Apparently it didn't like any of it. :)I know those are some crazy mailto parameters, and I have no idea ifthey're documented or not, but I *do* know that the BBS works great inNetscape 3 & 4, as well as IE 3 & 4, so they must be following some rulessomewhere. (shocking, eh?)Is it possible to make SIS work with it as well?Feel free to look around the BBS for more code examples at my site,http://www.telerama.com/~mportune - under Blue Monday. Or if you prefer touse a non-frames browser, go straight tohttp://www.telerama.com/~mportune/bbs/bbs.htm - that's the main entrancepage to the BBS.I hope this is enough info, Geoff. Thanks for the hard work!- Matt                        (MPORTUNE, 9213, GO COM A2)>>>>>   They didn't invent View Document Source for no reason. Yes, it"""""   turns out from your example that SIS does not handle all variantsof the RFC822 email addresses and that is a real bug.> href="mailto:"[Blue%20Monday:General]""Heck, I don't even think the SIS.Email script handles all variants of validRFC822 email addresses either.Geoff                        (SISGEOFF, 9217, GO COM A2)GRABBING A2 FILES OFF THE 'NET 101   What is a good strategy for""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   downloading files on the Internet thatare in the Apple II format? I have an IBM PC that is my Internet connectionand an Apple IIGS that is not Net-connected. Fortunately, I have thecoveted CrossWorks cable/software file-transfer package from SoftSpoken.:-)Can I download Apple II files with the above configuration? If I wanted todownload files in Apple II DOS 3.3 could the file be usable? Quite a fewgames that were written for the Apple II were placed in DOS 3.3 format. Inmy experience DOS 3.3 programs, especially games, only work on 5.25" 143Kfloppy disk. Everytime I have tried to convert from 5.25" to 3.5" 800K I donot have success.Please send me some solutions to this challenge.Thank you in advance,Michael P. Owenowenmp@hotmail.comP.S. I have noticed something cool about my Apple IIGS and my IBM PC.Although my Apple IIGS runs at 2.8 MHz and my IBM PC runs at over 166 MHz,AppleWorks appears slightly faster than my Corel applications for my IBM.This is yet another demonstration that the Apple II is NOT obsolete. :-)                         (OWENMP, 9156, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Yes, you can download just fine via a PC and null modem them to the"""""   Apple II fine if you remember a few simple rules. First, for any.shk or .bxy file you must download in BINARY mode at every step. [Youdon't, you'll corrupt the files and have to redo the xfers] All of thelegitimate Apple II software sites use .shk, .bxy or .bsq (and the illegalones may not, though they won't tell you that), and so you can download forShrinkit fine. Shrinkit can write DOS 3.3 5.25" disks fine, so you don'thave to worry about that. [And expect no help for pirated cr*p]   This subject is covered in extensive detail in section 5 of thecomp.sys.apple2 FAQ at http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/csa2.html I'vegot a bunch of edits to make and after that, should have a delphi upload ofall my FAQs shortly.Nathan Mates                         (NMATES, 9157, GO COM A2)<<<<<   Thank you very much! Again Delphi has rescued me from another"""""   silicon and magnetic media crisis! :-)Actually, I do have another question. IF I can ever finish my Web Page, Iwill be posting quite a few word processing and spreadsheet files on thesite.  Currently, these documents are in AppleWorks 3.0 format. What wouldbe good formats to use when adding these files to the WWW for downloads? MyIBM PC has Corel WordPerfect Suite programs that apparently allow me tosave to a variety of formats. I want my Web Page to be accessible to IBM,Mac, and especially Apple users! :-)Thanks again,Michael P. Owenowenmp@hotmail.comowenmp@ior.com                         (OWENMP, 9181, GO COM A2)>>>>>   Then the format to post to the WWW is either ascii text or html."""""   Going with the content first and ditching fluff like graphics isthe best way to be accessible to all.Nathan Mates                         (NMATES, 9185, GO COM A2)DEALING WITH DELPHI BINARY EMAIL   Yes, it's me again...  Help!!!""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""::watches as everyone quickly presses their spacebar::   :)I received several emails/files yesterday, and this is a small part of thefirst segment:This file is in BINARY format, created by YERRI at 15-JAN-1998 18:39:07.4184 bytes.  Checksum = 5C2B XCRC = B781 CRC16 = 323B.[*BINARY*128]}~X}~``^PJFIF`^A^A^A`x`x``}~[`C`^P^K^L^N^L^J^P^N^M^N^R^Q^P^S^X(^Z^X^V^V^X1#%%^](.. and then it goes on for pages.She is sending these using Win-D, so the usual encoding options (GSHK)aren't possible for her. Before, when I was using Rainbow (please don'tthrow ripe tomatoes, I needed an OLR {g}) it would somehow detect thesefiles, dump them into my workspace, and then download them from there.Obviously, COG doesn't work that way, so instead of pictures, I get verylarge text files.  :)First, can these be converted back into something I can view, or if not, isthere something she can do on her end before resending them? I don't thinkshe has the option of encoding before sending... Wid-D just asks for afilename and goes on from there.Second, if not that, is there a way to tell Delphi to dump these into myworkspace so I can download them manually? If 'Bow can do it, I know theremust be a way for us to do it.  :)Thanks. Hugs, Goldfische Conference Manager, New Age Forum (go rel new) Web: {<http://www.delphi.com/newage> Newage} Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Renew ... The Earth Belongs To Our Children Sent by Spectrum 2.1 & COG 2.1--- Why do we elect people and then become afraid of them?                     (GOLDFISCHE, 9391, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   I don't recognize this being a "standard" header for 8-bit data."""""> She is sending these using Win-D, so the usual encoding> options (GSHK) aren't possible for her.GSHK is not what I consider an encoding method--it is used for archiving offiles.A relatively cross platform encoding standard is Binhex which is verycommon on the Mac, but many mainstream email applications support it.Spectrum can decode binhex once you save the message onto a disk on theIIgs. GSCII can handle messages that are UUencoded and that is alsorelatively cross platform (mainly UNIX though). Base64 is becoming theindustry standard for email since that is closely tied with typical MIMEattachments. There are several utilities which handle base64 for the IIgsnow--check out the Delphi library!Geoff                      (SISGEOFF, 9398, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   What you have here is Delphi Binary Mail - a proprietary scheme"""""   that Delphi uses to exchange files between users.  There is no waythat I know of to directly use them on the Apple IIGS.  However -You can manually convert these files as follows:1) Before going into mail, set /length=10 (or some similar low number)2) Enter mail (would probably be best to enter thru workspace)3) Type 'SEARCH [*BINARY' (without the quotes) and press <Return>. If youhave a binary file waiting, you should get a message that contains the text'PRESS RETURN'.  Otherwise, you will get 'NO MESSAGES'.4) If you have binary mail, type the command 'EXTRACT <filename>' and press<return>, where <filename> is the name that you want to have the file savedunder in workspace.  If you don't have binary mail, just process your mailin the normal way for you.5) Enter workspace and download the file.The above is derived from the way that OLRight! checks for and processesDelphi Binary mail as part of each mail session.  It takes a few moreseconds of online time, but downloads the files in the original format. Itshouldn't take much for an enterprising scripter to add this feature to COG(he says in all ignorance ;^)I adapted the above from a post by Tim Kellers, in which he described thisprocess.  THANKS, TIM!!!!!! - Don (IronTooth)Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight!                     (DZAHNISER, 9409, GO COM A2 FOR)                                RUMOR MILL                                """"""""""FINALLY. . . WOLFENSTEIN FOR THE IIGS   Wolfenstein 3D for the Apple IIgs"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   -- COMING VALENTINE'S DAY, 1998.What better way to celebrate the holiday of love and romance than byblowing away a thousand Nazis?The most anticipated game of recent Apple IIgs history will be availablefor download at http://www.sheppyware.ml.org beginning February 14, 1998.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                         (SHEPPY, 9750, GO COM A2)SSII'S SIRIUS ABOUT APPLE II SUPPORT   Blatant Plug Department...""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Come February 15th, some lucky current subscriber to Shareware Solutions IIwill become the proud owner of a brand new Sirius II RAM Card for the IIGSwith 8 Megs.I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly thank Tony Diaz and AlltechElectronics for their incredibly generous support of Shareware SolutionsII.Note to Cindy Adams - I hereby officially rescind my nomination of TonyDiaz as the Roastee at Kfest '98 ;-)Joe                      (JOE_KOHN, 9801, GO COM A2 FOR)                              PUBLIC POSTINGS                              """""""""""""""OFFICIAL KFEST '98 BLATANT PLUG #1""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""  ______      _____ (      )   (      )     ____________________________________________  |     |  /     /      (        _____________________________'98____)  |     | /     /        |      |  |     |/     /         |      |                         II Infinitum!!  |           /          |      |______  |     |\     \         |      _______) __________    ________   ________  |     | \     \        |      |       (     _____)  (     ___) (__    __)  |     |  \     \       |      |        |   |__       \    \       |   |  |     |   \     \      |      |        |    __)       \    \      |   |  |     |    \      \    |      |        |   |_____   ___\    \     |   | (______)    (________) (_______)       (__________) (_________)    |___|KFest is back!  With some of its most affordable prices ever!KFest '98 will again be held on the campus of Avila College in KansasCity, Missouri. It will take place from July 22 - July 26, 1998. If youregister before April 15, 1998, the cost is only $265, which -includesthe use of a double room in the Avila College dorms -and- meals!  Thereare also a limited number of single rooms available for $365.  (If youwish to stay at one of the many hotels or motels near the college thenthe cost is $215, but you would, of course, have to find and pay foryour own room and meals.)  But act now--prices go up on April 16, 1998.Check-in will be on Wedensday from 1-4 pm, and check-out from 11 am - 1pm on Sunday. Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday andFriday. Software and hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning,with a vendor fair slated for Saturday afternoon.Meals included in the registration price are Thursday breakfast throughSunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. All childrenunder 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian.++ Please Note++ Dinner on Wednesday and Saturday are NOT included thisyear. Attendees can dine on their own at one of the many finerestaurants near the Avila campus, or join the Kfest '98 group for theirannual treks to KC Masterpiece and Jess & Jim's Steak House. ***KFest this year is being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc..  You cansend your completed registration forms to:     KFest '98     c/o Intrec Software     3035 E. Topaz Circle     Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 * Please make checks payable to: InTrec Software, Inc. ***Credit Card registration is also available. Just call InTrec Software,Inc. with your VISA, MasterCard, Discovery, or American Express numberat (602) 992-1345, Mon-Fri 8:00AM-5:00PM Mountain Standard Time.  If youprefer, you can FAX your registration with credit card account number andexpiration date to: (602) 992-0232 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.If you prefer registering by Email, and are using a VISA, MasterCard,Discovery, or American Express for payment, you can send the completedregistration form via InterNet Email to:  proterm@intrec.com ***If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you canfind answers via the InterNet. Just send an email message tokfest-help@trenco.gno.org, or visit the World Wide Web page athttp://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.html ****** (cut here)******-   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -                    KFest '98 Registration FormName:Address:City, State, Zip:Phone  (h):                                 (w):Email address:Roommate preference (if any):Do you prefer a smoker or non-smoker?Howbout a collectible, soft and thrilling KFest '98 T-Shirt?Yes I want One (Many)!!!  [ ]T-shirts are $15.00 each and are available in Small, Medium, Large,X-Large.Please circle size(s)    Small     Medium    Large     X-LargeCheck here [] for additional X's on your X-Large T-shirt and indicate sizeneeded:   _________Send this completed registration form and fee to:     KFest '98     c/o Intrec Software     3035 E. Topaz Circle     Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 * Please make checks payable to:  InTrec SoftwareCredit Card registration is also available.   Just call InTrec Software,Inc. with your VISA, MasterCard, Discovery, or American Express number at(602) 992-1345, Mon-Fri 8:00AM-5:00PM Mountain Standard Time.  If youprefer, you can FAX your registration with credit card account number andexpiration date to: (602) 992-0232 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.If you prefer registering by Email, and are using a VISA, MasterCard,Discovery, or American Express for payment, you can send the completedregistration form via InterNet Email to:  proterm@intrec.comFor Credit Card registration please check:[] Visa    [] MasterCard  [] Discovery   [] American ExpressPlease charge my  account number:  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Expiration: _ _ / _ _                      (RSUENAGA, 9864, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Just in time to help get you excited about KFest 1998, another"""""   Kfest '97 is ready for your viewing pleasure. (Information about1998 registration will be ready soon.)According to the official Kfest Webmaster, David Kerwood, "The site isspecifically tailored for _all_ browsers, e.g., it looks great in gui, andalso looks great with lynx, and all the downloadables are in gif format soApple II users can view the images. All the thumbnails are jpegs, but thatwon't matter for the lynx users, since they're invisible to them anyway."The official KFest webpage is:        http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.htmlThe Big Cheese(aka Cindy, A2.MOM) Cindy Adams  --  cindyadams@delphi.com Posted by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5                     (CINDYADAMS, 9683, GO COM A2 FOR)>>>>>   Actually, lynx can grab the thumbs if you really want to see them"""""   (try the "*" command to turn on inline graphics link creation), butthere's really not much point. Either one would need to be downloaded andviewed anyway, so you might as well get the full size pics.I'm already counting the days 'til KFest 98! ----------------------------------------------------- Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.1b19] -- Fax me no questions and I'll fax you no lies.                       (TONYW1, 9689, GO COM A2 FOR)HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM SSII   Well, I made two New Year's resolution, and the""""""""""""""""""""""""   first and most important one is to get SharewareSolutions II back onto a timely release schedule. So, even though V3, #6 isvery, very, very late, I'm aiming to get V4, #1 out the door in recordtime....meaning, in less than two months. That shouldn't be that hard,considering all the leftover articles I have from V3, #6.As a reminder, there will be a drawing for a brand new Sirius II 8 meg IIGSRAM card on (note new date) February 15, 1998, and anyone whosesubscription is current as of that day will be eligible to win that RAMcard. So, get those renewals in.And the other resolution...I love to ski, and I didn't spend a single day in 1997 on the ski slopes.So, I intend to go skiing in 1998!Joe                        (JOE_KOHN, 9061, GO COM A2)SSII HOSTS MONDAY NIGHT CHAT   Thanks to Gina Saiken, Dan Krass and Ray""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   Merlin...Shareware Solutions II is pleased to announce that the first of many weeklychats is scheduled to kickoff on Monday night, January 26, 1998. Althoughthese chats are being held under the auspices of Syndicomm, they will besponsored and hosted by Shareware Solutions II.Unfortunately, I do not yet have the computer equipment here that willallow me to "broadcast" the chat to Genie. It has been ordered, and once itarrives, it may take me a little while to figure out exactly how to set itup and use it.So, it seems to me that we may as well get started here on Delphi, and thenonce the computer hardware has arrived, we will have the dual systemDelphi/Genie chats on each successive Monday night.Unless some earth shaking Apple II development happens in the next 10 days,that first chat should be very informal. So, polish up those Apple IIrelated jokes ;-)I hope to chat with ALL of you on January 26, 1998. Joe Kohn Publisher, Shareware Solutions II                        (JOE_KOHN, 9458, GO COM A2)GREAT NEWS FOR ANSITERM OWNERS!   Paul Parkhurst, the author of ANSITerm,"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the Apple IIgs specific telecommnicationsprogram, has recently given me the authority to provide updates for allregistered owners.  That's right, even those of using ANSITerm 1.0 can beupdated to the latest version of ANSITerm, 2.13.  This will allow you tostart using Don Zahniser's OLRight! off line reader for Delphi.In order to receive your update, please send a photocopy of the originaldisk along with $5 for shipping and handling in North America, $8elsewhere, to:Ryan M. Suenaga45-021 O'opuhue PlaceKane'ohe, HI  96744Inquiries via email can be sent to:thelamp@delphi.comMany thanks to Paul for providing this opportunity for the ANSITermfaithful.Apple II Forever!(This may be reproduced freely in user group newsletters, usenet, andother online servicesprovided that the text of the message including thisstatement is left unchanged)                      (RSUENAGA, 9431, GO COM A2 FOR)OLRIGHT! VERSION 3.0 FOR ANSITERM--A DELPHI OFFLINE READER""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""OLRight! v3.0 - An Off-Line Reader using ANSITerm on the Apple IIGSAre you put into cold sweats when you work online in 'real time'?  Havingtrouble remembering all those commands? Do you dread the bills for the timeyou spend on-line?  Do you have ANSITerm v2.1x and an Apple IIGS?  If youanswered 'yes' to any of these questions (especially the last), OLRight!may be for you!OLRight! is an off-line reader and user interface for Delphi, built withthe powerful scripting capabilities of ANSITerm, the telecommunicationsprogram from Parkhurst Micro Products.The heart of OLRight! is a menu system created with the ANSI emulationcapabilities that are the showpiece of ANSITerm.  From the simple menu bar,single key presses produce drop-down menus with a host of options:o Access Delphi via SprintNet, Direct Dial, Telnet from an ISP, telnet fromGenie, or via any path that can be put into a custom script or auto-learnmacro. Included is an option to let you automatically log on and performon-line activities at a specific time.o Define up to 32 Delphi Forums, 16 of which may be accessed in a singlesession.  A Forum Chooser menu is used for selecting any Forum orDatabase-related setup or off-line reading activity. Full support forCustom Forums.o Completely automated on-line sessions:  - Logon/Logoff banners captured for off-line viewing.  - Upload files to workspace.  - Send mail.  - Retrieve mail.  - Download Delphi Binary Mail.  - Forum message searches.  - Send Forum messages.  - Retrieve Forum messages.  - Search Databases.  - Submit (upload) files to Databases.  - Download Database files.  - Automatic execution of optional user script.  - Automated logoff.o On-Line (Manual) Activities:  - Option to skip retrieving Mail  - Between Forums - Skip next Forum, exit, or go to OLRight! menu.  - Conference (Chat) - See Below.  - Terminal Mode - Optional user script automatically executed.  - Lynx.  - Restart automated activities at any Forum.  - Manual logoff.  - Manual execution of user script(s).o Menu access to virtually all of ANSITerm's built-in features, including:  - View File utility.  - Editor.  - Scrollback.  - File Utilities.o Mail support:  - Composing letters for sending, either as new mail or reply.  - Sending Delphi Binary Mail (Send files to other Delphi users).  - Address book with up to 32 names/addresses.  - Mail reader menu with sender address and subject.  - Navigate forward and backward through mail without returning to menu.  - Print mail, either via editor or a fast text dump.  - Archive letters to new file or append to existing archive files.  - Reply to mail, either to original address or alternate address.  - Automatic capture of subject for reply; subject can be edited.  - Outgoing mail log - View status and Delete transmitted mail files.o Forum Message Support:  - Retrieve Forum topic list and view through menu selection.  - Add new messages (Start a new thread).  - Reply to a specific message number without reading it.  - Option to suppress sending or retrieving messages by Forum.  - Optional Forum-specific 'signatures' for all outgoing messages.  - Forum message menu - Messages to you are marked.  - Navigate through messages without returning to Forum menu.  - Forward, backward, proportional movement through messages.  - Progress through messages indicated as percentage.  - Individual messages have addressee highlighted.  - Reply to message author or other Delphi user.  - Print individual messages.  - Archive message to new file or append to existing archive files.  - Search by Author, Addressee, Message Number range, Dates, Subject.  - Set High Pointers to a message number or NEW for last 50.  - Ad Hoc, freeform search capability.  - Search/Read a single message number.o Database Support:  - Set up Searches - Narrow or Broaden search.  - Set up Uploads - View pending upload queue and descriptions.  - Set up Downloads.  - Transfer via Xmodem, Ymodem, Ymodem-Batch, Zmodem, Kermit.  - You can use different protocols for upload vs download.  - View log of DB activities from OLRight! menu.o Conference Support:  - Menu selection for visiting conferences - Scripted conference entry.  - Visit conference for any previously set up Forum.  - Optional Forum-specific 'nickname' for conferences.  - View capture log of conference session(s) - by Forum.o Documentation:  - Comprehensive documentation in a Teach file  - On-line Help menuOLRight! may be found in the A2 Forum Database, Telecommunications topic,file name OLRight30.BXY.  Once downloaded and unpacked with GSHK orBalloon, the Apple IIGS Installer is used to install scripts and datafolders. For help or further information, please reply to Message 3077 inthe A2 Forum. - Don (IronTooth)Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts...                       (DZAHNISER, 9192, GO COM A2)BERNIE WOOFS IT UP   Hello Delphians!""""""""""""""""""I'd like to announce herewith, not without overboarding enthusiasm, amailing list for Bernie ][ The Rescue, our pet project. This list featurestips & tricks, news from the doghouse, and bandwidth for discussing AppleII emulation, Bernie, or both.The list is open and unmoderated - everyone can join in, whether you'veregistered your copy or not. We're all really looking forward to meetingyou there and having some interesting communication.To learn more about the list, please turn tohttp://www.design.ncisc.org/~bernie/current/index.htmlThis site is an archive of all past messages. The first message gives youan short introduction to how to subscribe, post, behave :-), andunsubscribe.BTW, this list is free (of course) and has been kindly donated by long-timeApple II and Bernie user Joe Nowak.See you there,henrik                       (GUDATH, 9388, GO COM A2 FOR)                             BEST OF THE BEST                             """"""""""""""""9381 15-JAN 20:20 General Chatter     RE: Lounge - General Chatter (Re: Msg 4)     From: D_CUFF       To: ALLI like the A2 area on Delphi.  (Why would I be paying for a Delphi accountotherwise? :-)  But would you grant me leave to talk about Genie for amoment?  I'm not trying to persuade you to jump ships... honest!There seems to be an assumption--often unspoken--that A2 on Genie is dying.It just ain't true, folks.  (Yes, I am going to post something similar onGenie. :-)I didn't go near A2 on either Genie or Delphi for the first two weeks ofJanuary.  Then I logged on and collected all the messages that hadaccumulated in that period.On Delphi, there were 330K of messages.  (That's 23.5K a day on average.)On Genie, there were 280K of messages.  (20K a day.)Whether you use Genie or Delphi or both is none of my business.  Argue allyou want for the superiority of either; I won't be listening. :-) Neitheram I here to promote Genie, particularly not over Delphi.  I just thoughtI'd mention that things on Genie are still as healthy as they are here.Maybe that means things need to improve here; I wouldn't know.I just like to get these things straight. :-)Doug C.[EOA][A2P]------------------------------                   A2_ProDUCTIVITY |-----------------------------------Checking out A2PRO on Delphi""""""""""""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                    [thelamp@delphi.com]APPLE PROCESSING A2 FILE TYPE REQUESTS?   BTW, did you know that Apple is"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   still including there own AppleII File Type Request form on the Apple developer CDs (as of November/97)? Iwas just browsing through the CDs at work and stumbled upon this file thatstill listed Apple as the source for type assignments. I just found itodd/amusing that that was still on there. I wonder what would happen if youactually sent a request into that address. :-)-- Michael                       (SAR, 1221, GO COM A2PRO FOR)NOW YOU SEE IT, NOW YOU DON'T   I have a problem with the cursor showing in"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""   the ANSI display in Spectrum that has beenreported to me a couple of times. Basically, the ANSI display turns thecursor off at its Init, but does not turn it off again when it isre-opened. This leaves the cursor showing droppings on the display.I want to know where I can check to see if a cursor is currently active ornot. I can't find any suitable reference in the docs I have. If I can findthat byte, then I can check if the cursor is active before I close adisplay, then if necessary make sure it is turned off when I re-open.Richard could patch the ANSI display, but a more elegant solution is forSpectrum to handle this...Anybody know the answer? Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1225, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   There is indeed a flag in bank $E1, but I have no memory of where"""""   it is. You might like to check out the _ShowCursor code and seewhat its doing.Regards, Richard                    (RICHARD_B, 1226, GO COM A2PRO FOR)<<<<<   I was just trying to do this the easy way by asking the 'experts'"""""   here!The flag is in the Quickdraw zero page, and you can get it this way:    pha    pha    pea 0    pea 4    _GetWAP    pla    plx    phd    tcd    ldx #$100    lda $cc,x    pldThis returns $0000 if the cursor is showing and $FFFF if it is hidden... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1227, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Careful there! Don't count on absolute values. If the value is"""""   negative, the cursor is hidden, and otherwise it is visible. Inpractice, the value should never go above 0, but it can definitely go below-1.But otherwise, you've got it right!-- Michael                       (SAR, 1241, GO COM A2PRO FOR)<<<<<   Thanks for the clarification. In essence I am using a non-zero test"""""   to see if it is hidden, so I think I have covered what I need... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1246, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   It might be worth checking that assumption. I would assume that"""""   what you're reading is the flag used by HideCursor/ShowCursor. Ifso, negative values indicate a hidden cursor, and zero a visible one, withthe implication that positive values are accepted and also indicate avisible cursor. I suspect you should be looking solely at the mostsignificant bit.BTW, why won't HideCursor, ShowCursor and InitCursor do what you want?Mike Westerfield                    (BYTEWORKS, 1247, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Thanks for that Mike... That makes sense."""""The problem I had actually got solved from another direction. What Iwanted to know was if a display that Spectrum had no direct controlover, had turned the cursor off or not. That way I could make sure I didnot turn it on again when I restored control to it.                     (EWANNOP, 1248, GO COM A2PRO FOR)YET ANOTHER TEXTEDIT BUG?   I was investigating a problem with the Spectrum"""""""""""""""""""""""""   Find/Replace routine and I think I have foundyet another problem with the TextEdit Tool.If you do a large amount of Find/Replaces in the Editor, it either missedout large chunks of the file on a $1700 boundary, or simply hung.The same routine within Spectrum is used whether you are working on aScriptEditor Handle, or the displayed Editor window. Only when it isworking on the displayed Editor, that is a visible TextEdit Record in acontrol, that the problem shows. If working on an invisible TextEdit Recordthat is not a control, there is no problem.The problem arises when either I use _TEReplace, or _TEClear with _TEInsertwith the Record being a control and a selection has already been made. If Iset the start and end of the selection to the same point, all is well. Itis deleting the selection, and then getting the new start point wrong onexit!So we can chalk up another bug in TextEdit!BTW if anybody has a solution to this problem, I would love to know... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (WANNOP, 1276, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Hmm... That could explain why EGOed would crash sometimes on"""""   Find/Replaces that made a lot of changes. I thought it was just abug in EGOed, but since it seemed pretty solid otherwise, it wouldn'tsurprise me if it turned out to be a TextEdit bug instead.So how's that new super TextEdit replacement coming along? :-)Michael                       (SAR, 1278, GO COM A2PRO FOR)8 BIT SNOOD GROUP SESSION?   Who wants to be part of a project to port a""""""""""""""""""""""""""   SNOOD look-alike to the IIe? This is one ofthe few games that I've really enjoyed and I think it would be neat to haveit available to the Apple II world.I figure it could be written mostly in assembly using either the hi-res ordouble hi-res screens. I can do shape tables for hi-res, but I've neverdone any dhr stuff.Anybody interested?Charlie Hartley ... via ProTERM Mac and PTMM                    (CKHARTLEY, 1277, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Funny you should mention that, Charlie, I was just thinking to"""""   myself that I'd love to do a GS-port of it once I get a little....no quite a bit better, at toolbox programming.   I figured the basics haveto be included in Mike W.'s example brickout program. (Hmmm, but as I thinkof it, that wasn't a toolbox program, was it?)But I'm sure it could also be done in the 8-bit environment.Unfortunately, I wouldn't know how to get near assembly, but I sure hopeyou can find someone who can! _________   | homas Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and rushed to you by Crock O' Gold 2.0!                    (TCOMPTER, 1282, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Snood is the ultimate in Brick-out type games. You are armed with a"""""   swivel cannon in the centre of the screen that fires 'Snoods'. Youhave seven different types that appear more or less at random on yourcannon. The screen itself starts with various layouts of these Snoods. Whenyou fire a Snood, if it hits two or more of the same kind, they fall away.The object is to clear them all from the screen. You can bounce of the sidewalls to help your aim.However every time you fire, a thermometer rises a notch. If the levelreaches the top, the whole screen shifts down one layer, and if any of theSnoods touch the bottom, you die. However if any unsupported Snoods fallaway with others you have hit, the thermometer drops down a notch or two.The strategy is therefore to clear the screen without the thermometergetting to the top so you die.There are five levels of play from Easy to Evil, each with its own screen.There is also a Puzzle game that has 50 individual levels.It is the best Brick-out game I have ever seen. My current high score atPuzzle level is 190564, and Evil level is 22605. I usually run the Puzzlelevel from the first screen, and can get to around level 26 without dying.You can set it up to start anywhere, so I have been through all 50 levels,but you don't get as high a score that way as the score multiplies with thenumber of levels you can get through.It would be a relatively simple game to program, so would be very easy forsomeone to do on the //e or IIgs. After all, it is not much more advancedin what it does than the old Space Invader programs...So Cindy should manage to be able program it quite well... :) Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1312, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Hmmm, port of a game... sounds like fun.  I've done very little on"""""   DHR programming, and honestly, I don't have the time to learn tocode for DHR. The only routines I've completely successfully were for twoDHR demos I wrote for Christmas, and the routines were SLOW. :)  Hi-res isNO problem!Fill me in on the details, and I'm game! :-)Russ                     (RUSSELL, 1339, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   Hmmm, and from what I've seen of Snood and GS programming, it seems"""""   to me the 'logic' would be the easy part.  Maybe I'm missingsomething important :)> not to mention getting a hold of the screen layouts for all the levels.Welllll, we don't have to be THAT perfect in our flattery, do we? Aren'tthe snood levels sort of random anyway?  The levels I've played seem to be. _________   | homas Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and rushed to you by Crock O' Gold 2.0!                    (TCOMPTER, 1349, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   The screens are random for the main five levels of the game, but"""""   the 50 puzzle screens are the same every time. Once you haveregistered your copy of Snood, you can actually design your own screens aswell.The main problems in building the game would be working out the spritelogic for animating the Snoods. Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.1 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1352, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   I played Snood on the Mac... fun game.  As a programmer porting"""""   this game over to the hi-res of the IIe or IIc, the major problemswould be the graphics. Hi-Res is limited to 280x192 and 6 distinct colorsof which half cannot reside next to the other half with having colordistortion.  It'll take some graphic talent.. :)  Plus the sounds will besimple two-voice sounds, not digitized samples (too big to fit into 64k).I'll work on some sample screens to see if I can actually fit that manySnoods on the screen, etc...I'll let you know..Russ                     (RUSSELL, 1380, GO COM A2PRO FOR)SURVEY SAYS. . .   This was just passed along to me, and I don't think any""""""""""""""""   else posted it here, sooooo:Subject: Apple II SurveySent: 1/15/98 10:13 PMReceived: 1/15/98 11:23 PMFrom: MacTreasures Announcement List,MacTreasures-Announce@mail.pacific-Reply-To: announce-MacTreasures@MacTreasures.comTo: MacTreasures-Announce@MacTreasures.comWe need your input regarding Apple II, IIe, gs software. If you DO NOT usethis type of software, but know of someone who does, PLEASE forward thisemail on to them.MacTreasures has been approached by a MAJOR software developer regardinglicensing titles they no longer produce for the Apple II, IIe, IIgseducation market. We would produce these titles for distribution. We know,due to our queries, that there is a definite market for software for theseolder CPUs. As you know we already carry such titles on our site. We arenow talking about titles that are NO LONGER being reproduced for the AppleII, etc. market, but are being produced for the newer computers.Please respond to unusual@mactreasures.com and place APPLE II SURVEY in thesubject. Your responses will help us in our decision process. PLEASE DO NOTRESPOND JUST TO GIVE US AN ANSWER. WE NEED RESPONSES FROM APPLE II, IIe, gsUSERS AND POTENTIAL PURCHASERS OF THESE TITLES!Thank you for your help! It is GREATLY appreciated.MacTreasures******************Our question:1. List software titles and company (if known), you would like to againhave available for Apple II's, etc.2. Type of CPU (Apple II, IIe, gs)**********************************************Phone: (408) 226-6762 FAX: (408) 226-7303MacTreasures for hard-to-find Macintosh Software.http://www.mactreasures.com....Complete our survey and add your email toour Newsletter list. Think Different! Think Macintosh.Email: unusual@mactreasures.comSearching for Lost Ancestors?Check out Ancestor Trails at http://www.ancestor.comLarge selection of genealogy books and materials, PLUS rare andhard-to-find books.Email: ancestor@ancestor.comYou certainly can post your answers here for others to see, but make sureyou get your answer to the company, they won't see them here. --HangTimeB-)>                    (HANGTIME, 1314, GO COM A2PRO FOR)XCMD PERFORMANCE   Documentation for writing XCMDs was deliberately not""""""""""""""""   included with the release Spectrum. It is available onrequest, but we need to know from anyone interested the project they areconsidering, and what kind of projects they have already done.This is to allow SevenHills to control and constrain released XCMDs to onesthat will work, will be useful, and are not already in a pipelinesomewhere.In the early days of XCMDs, one or two XCMDs got through that caused havocwith Spectrum. We do not want that to happen again.If you could send me all the relevant details in email to'ewannop@btinternet.com' or  'ewannop@delphi.com', I will see what we cando. The two doc files are in plain text format. Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.1 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/                     (EWANNOP, 1370, GO COM A2PRO FOR)GSOFT CLOSES IN   Is GSBasic getting close to release, or have I missed an"""""""""""""""   important announcement?--Peter Watson-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?-- Impossible! ;-)                   (PETERWATSON, 1300, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   It does keep getting closer. Work on HyperLogo has slowed it down,"""""   but I do spend time on it.It handles tools now, but only normal tools. I still have to finish codinguser tools and GS/OS calls, then the software will be at a very early alphastage. Once the manual is in draft form, I'll start advertising for betatesters.Mike Westerfield                    (BYTEWORKS, 1307, GO COM A2PRO FOR)>>>>>   For the sake of clarity, it's actually GSoft BASIC, FWIW."""""And no, I hadn't even considered an upgrade from ORCA/Integer BASIC. Theyare so completely unrelated that the idea never occurred to me. I'llconsider it, but I doubt if it will happen.One thing I _have_ condsidered is licensing the source. Does anyone see theneed for a 65816 based BASIC for uses other than the Apple IIGS? (Besidesme, that is.)Mike Westerfield                    (BYTEWORKS, 1320, GO COM A2PRO FOR)[EOA][HWH]------------------------------              HARDWORKING HARDWARE |-----------------------------------THE SUPERDRIVE CARD"""""""""""""""""""by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                    [thelamp@delphi.com]                            THE SUPERDRIVE CARD                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~          Product Name:      Apple II 3.5 Drive Controller Card                             (aka The SuperDrive Card)          Distribution:      $59 plus shipping                             Shreve Systems                             1200 Marshall St.                             Shreveport, LA 71101                             phones: 318-424-7987 (technical support)                                     800-227-3971 (orders only)                                fax: 318-424-9771          Requirements:      Apple //e or IIgs; any free slot other than                             slot three; Apple IIgs System Software 5.0.4                             or later or Apple II System Disk 3.2 or later;                             Apple 3.5 Drive, UniDisk 3.5, or SuperDrive                             or equivalent (preferred).     Apple Computer, Inc. has always been an innovator, and while someinnovations were more successful than others, they continue striving to bedifferent from the rest of the computing world.     One of the most successful innovations they incorporated into theircomputers was the 3.5 inch floppy disk drive.  While they did not inventit, they were the first to use it in a mainstream computer, the Macintosh.And of course, after its debut on the Mac, it was only a matter of timeuntil it showed up on the Apple II.  The Apple II's first 3.5 inch floppydisk drive incarnation, the UniDisk 3.5, was designed for use with theApple //e and the Apple //c.  It, like the Macintosh, offered storage of800K on a single Double Sided Double Density (DSDD) floppy diskette.  Withthe introduction of the Apple IIgs came the Apple 3.5 Drive, compatiblewith the media and formatting of the earlier UniDisk 3.5, but faster andcompatible with both the IIgs and Macintosh.     Of course, Apple's competitors in the Intel world didn't stand still,and they had 3.5 inch floppy disk drives of their own, using a differentscheme for storing data on their diskettes.  Instead of Apple's Group CodeRecording (GCR) format, they used the Modified Frequency Modulation (MFM)format, and their drives stored either 720k on those same DSDD floppies, ortwice as much (1.44 megabytes) on Double Sided High Density (DSHD)floppies.     Realizing that easy exchange of data was critical to their continuedsuccess, Apple Computer, Inc. introduced what they called the "SuperDrive"or "FDHD" (say "fudd-hudd") floppy drive, which could handle the 800K GCRformat as well as the 720K and 1.44 meg MFM format for their Macintosh lineof computers.  With appropriate software, these could handle reading andwriting MSDOS formatted disks as well as the Macintosh's nativeHierarchical File System (HFS) disks.     Very late in the lifespan of the Apple II (at least as far as AppleComputer, Inc. was concerned), the Apple II faithful were presented withone of the last peripherals Apple Computer, Inc. would make for the AppleII--called "The Apple II 3.5 Drive Controller Card", just as itspredecessor was, this card was actually the "SuperDrive Card."  When pairedwith a SuperDrive floppy drive, it acted exactly like the old Apple 3.5Drive--except it added the ability to use those 3.5 inch MFM formattedfloppies!  However, very few of these appeared to make it out of Apple'sfactories into the hands of the public, and the SuperDrive Card seemeddestined to be one of those rare pieces of Apple II hardware that many hadheard of, few had seen, and virtually no one owned.     But as it has so many times before, fate smiled upon the Apple II.Somehow, somewhere, Shreve Systems has acquired a number of the SuperDriveCards and is selling them for $59 apiece!  When they were thought rare,they often fetched over $100 per card.  Given this opportunity, I orderedtwo for my own use, and to share with you here.     The SuperDrive Card comes in typical Apple late-model packaging--browncardboard with black lettering.  It came with a rather sparse manual, adisk of utilities, and the card itself.  To install it in my Apple IIgs, Isimply turned off power to the computer, found an appropriate free slot(any but slot three should work), inserted the card, attached the header tothe IIgs's case, plugged in my SuperDrive equivalent drive (an AppliedEngineering High Density Drive), switched the setting in the Control Panelfor slot six to "Your Card", and booted up.     In operation, it appeared nothing had changed, except that I could nowuse MFM formatted floppies in my 3.5 disk drive!  With a fresh batch ofDSHD disks and System 6.0.1 installed with the HFS and MSDOS File SystemTranslators (FST's) and _MUG!_ (see Volume 1, Number 1's _MUG!_ review)active, I quickly experimented with a number of diskettes, easily reading,writing, and formatting Macintosh and IBM formatted diskettes, as well as1.44 megabyte ProDOS diskettes.  Everything I could throw at it worked likea champ!  My Apple IIgs was able to read files from and copy files onto aMSDOS formatted disk that I formatted with the 486 I have next to it--theMSDOS "dir" command also showed the files fine and dandy.  Same went forreading and writing a Macintosh diskette--not a problem.  Formatting HFSand ProDOS diskettes was a breeze, and formatting or writing to MSDOSdiskettes was almost as easy with the _MUG!_ package.  In the best Apple IItradition, the SuperDrive Card worked its magic without fanfare--it simplyworked.     The biggest problem that users may face with the SuperDrive Card isfinding a drive to use it with.  I happened to have picked up an AppliedEngineering floppy drive that was SuperDrive compatible a few months beforeat a user group swap meet--these are out of production, as are theApple-branded SuperDrives.  It's quite possible to take an Apple SuperDrivemechanism and put it into the typical IIgs's 3.5 Drive enclosure withrelative ease, but this may be cost prohibitive.  Power users who have longhad all of their slots filled may have a difficult time finding a free slotto place the card into.  There have also been reports of difficulty dealingwith 720K diskettes with this combination--I had no problems with these,and I come across these diskettes so infrequently now this may not be muchof a concern.  And the combined price of a SuperDrive and SuperDrive Cardmay be prohibitive compared to the alternative methods to achievecompatibility with MFM diskettes--the BlueDisk Card and generic Intel-style3.5 inch floppy drive from //SHH Systeme in Germany or the Floptical Drivesformerly marketed by Tulin Technology.  The SuperDrive Card will certainlydrive conventional Apple 3.5 Drives that use 800K GCR formatted diskettes,but it is only at its best with a true SuperDrive.     Still, the SuperDrive Card is a real find.  In typical Apple II style,it does its job with function and little fanfare--it plain works, and workswell.  If you need to use 3.5 inch diskettes from MSDOS or Windowsmachines, and you have or can easily locate an appropriate 3.5 inch diskdrive mechanism, the SuperDrive Card may well be the answer you have beenwaiting for.  Thank you, Shreve Systems.[EOA][WEB]------------------------------                  WEB SLINGING 101 |-----------------------------------Variations On A Theme~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W.                    [thelamp@delphi.com]                    Telnet And The Delphi Content Plan                    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     One of the most useful things you can do with an Internet account isto telnet.  Telnet allows you to communicate with a remote host just as ifyou were directly linked to them.  Several online services, includingDelphi, permit telnet access.  In fact, Delphi's Content Plan allowsunlimited access to Delphi via telnet for $35 a year.  If you combine thatwith an account on an Internet Service Provider that allows unlimitedaccess, you have a very economical way to get onto Delphi.     Once you have your Content account set up with Delphi, you can attemptto telnet into Delphi many ways.  If you have a standard shell account onan Internet Service Provider, you can easily use the telnet command to getonto Delphi.  Here's an example.     From the main prompt of an Internet Service Provider, which lookslike:[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------[rsuenaga@butch rsuenaga]$[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------     I then enter the telnet command by typing in:telnet delphi.com     and press return.  I then get the following:[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------Trying 199.93.4.67...Connected to delphi.comEscape character is ^].Username:[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------     Let's take a look at this.  Notice that the first thing it says is:Trying 199.93.4.67...     The numbers 199.93.4.67 are an Internet Protocol Address, commonlyreferred to as an IP Address.  Every Internet site has this numeric IPAddress.  If you'd like, you can telnet using this address rather than thealphanumeric domain name (delphi.com).  Those of you who use _Marinetti_ onthe IIgs are surely familiar with this.  Simply substitute one for theother.  In this case, instead of typing:telnet delphi.com     you can type:telnet 199.93.4.67     and get the same results.     At this point, to log onto Delphi, simply enter your username, as inthe following example:[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------Trying 199.93.4.67...Connected to delphi.comEscape character is ^].Username: RSUENAGA[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------     and press return.  You will then get thePassword:     prompt.  To compete the sign in, type in your password and pressreturn.[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------Trying 199.93.4.67...Connected to delphi.comEscape character is ^].Username: RSUENAGAPassword: samplepassword[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------     and then you will get the initial Delphi logon screen:[BEGINNING OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------Hello RSUENAGAWelcome to DELPHICopyright (c) 1995,1996,1997,1998Delphi Internet ServicesLogon at   : 10-JAN-1998 17:56:02Last Logon : 10-JAN-1998 16:37:55There were no tortoises in the US Postal Service's annual race for "MostPopular Stamp," so the Hare won this year. Get detail, and find out why themethodology may be flawed, in Stamps, Coins & Postal: GO HOBby STAmpsSpecial Holiday Recipes!  In Southern States forum - read the threadstarting at Message 13580.  GO TRA SOU.OPERATIONS REPORT - 1/9/98 10:20am EST - Delphi will be down briefly oneearly morning next week to complete a software upgrade. Exact time andday to be announced ASAP. The outage will affect text-Delphi and POPmail access.MAIN Menu:Auditorium                  MailArts and Entertainment      Member DirectoryBusiness and Finance        News, Weather, and SportsComputing and Technology    Reference/Health/EducationConference                  Relationships and SupportCurrent Affairs             ShoppingCustom Forums               Travel and CulturesDelphinian                  Using DelphiGames                       WorkspaceHobbies and Crafts          HELPHome and Family             EXITInternet ServicesMAIN>What do you want to do?[END OF SCREEN EXAMPLE ]------------------------------------------     Several Apple II users who telnet in like this have problemstransferring files from the Database via the XModem, YModem, or ZModemprotocol.  That is likely due to not all ISP's supporting Telnet equally.Many times, they only support 7-bit telnet, which is not capable ofhandling these types of protocols.  If you are having downloading problems,here are some things to try.     Instead of simply typing:telnet delphi.com     you can try one of the following variations:telnet -8 -E delphi.com     -or-telnet -8 -E -L delphi.com     -or-telnet delphi.com,T     If those don't work for you, try just entering:telnet     then pressing return.  You will likely get a prompt that looks likethis:telnet>     at this prompt, try enteringtoggle binary     and pressing return.  Hopefully it will say:Negotiating binary mode with remote host.     and give you another telnet> prompt.  There you can enter:open delphi.com     and hit return again.  Then you can log in as above.     If none of these allow you to do file transfers, you may be stuckusing the Kermit protocol to transfer files.  Several Apple II telecommprograms support Kermit (the latest versions of _ANSITerm_, _Spectrum_, and_ProTERM_ all support Kermit).  While it is a slow protocol in practice, itis very reliable, and will let you transfer files where you otherwise wouldnot be able to.     There are several other options for telnetting into Delphi.  If youhave _Marinetti_ up and running, you can telnet in with the simple _Telnet_application Richard Bennett includes with Marinetti or with _Spectrum 2.1_and the _TopCat_ XCMD.  If you access under TCP/IP with another computer,you can use a telnet client--such as _ProTERM Mac_ on the Macintosh.  Oryou can try to use your World Wide Web browser to telnet.  If you enter:telnet://delphi.comwith, for instance, _Microsoft Internet Explorer_ or _Netscape Navigator_it will try to pull up a "helper application" to telnet to Delphi.Unfortunately, the _Spectrum Internet Suite_ does not support thistelnet:// tag, but _Lynx_ does.  Not all ISP's installations of _Lynx_ willsupport it, of course, but many do.  One of the more interesting uses ofthis for me is when I visit the local public libraries, which allow accessto _Lynx_ via their online catalogs.  If I feel like taking a break fromreading, I simply go to the card catalog and check my email or chat withfriends!     This small primer will assist you in getting going with telnetting toDelphi on your Apple II or other computer.  We will continue to look atdifferent ways to use the Internet to get the most out of your Apple IIcomputer.         :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         :                                                       :         :       I tried OS/2 once, but I didn't inhale.         :         :                                                       :         ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 ::::[EOA][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in"""""""""""""""   the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi onlineservice (GO CUS 11).     * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 1998 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W.  All       rights reserved.     * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to       thelamp@delphi.com.     * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on       Delphi as well as The Lamp! 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