From ts@uwasa.fi  Sun Mar 21 19:15:00 1993
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: /pc/pd2/tspost16.zip file description
To: ts@uwasa.fi  (Timo Salmi)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 99 6:46:16 EET
Status: RO

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
! This file is in mail format, so you can also read it with any !
! suitable Unix mail program such as elm: (elm -f post16.txt).  !
! On a PC /pc/mail/rmail*.zip is a convenient alternative       !
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

   This is the sixteenth file that contains my replies and comments
that I or others have made by email, or just written here instead of
posting to (mainly to) comp.archives.msdos.d, or postings that I
wanted to retain for your information. 
   Note that the latest tspost??.zip is always being updated until
it contains 30 messages.  The files are located at the /pc/pd2
directory. 
   For an index of all the post*.zip files please see
/pc/pd2/tspost00.zip.

1   Dec 31 To Timo Salmi      (31)   /pc/pd2/post16.txt file description
2   Oct 4  To Roy Johnson     (31)   Re: Image uploading policies?
3   Oct 4  To marcs@alive.ers (48)   Re: OS/2 virus utils...
4   Oct 3  To Jacob C Kesinge (29)   Re: TS Index?
5   Oct 1  To B.J. Herbison   (70)   Re: Suggestion for dirw
6   Sep 29 To Kevin Jameson   (50)   Re: simibm.zip for uwasa
7   Sep 29 To John Kennedy    (38)   Re: The Quality On GARBO
8   Sep 20 Brian 'Doc' O'Neil (38)   CBIP moderator looking for replaceme
9   Sep 15 Keith Petersen     (51)   SIMTEL20 collection to be frozen on
10  Sep 13 To Garbo uploader  (67)   Re: How and what to upload to Garbo
11  Sep 5  To tsu@luna.att.co (50)   Re: Runtime error with LEDS
12  Sep 3  To Klaus Troja     (53)   Re: CHOOSE default characters.
13  Aug 30 To Klaus Troja     (58)   Re: TSTSR17.ZIP NOBREAK
14  Aug 29 Mark Rogers        (33)   Re: Dos Errorlevel
15  Aug 25 Alan Bridle        (26)   Thank you for the TP FAQ
16  Aug 25 To Eric Huppertz   (99)   Re: Listing of files at garbo?
17  Aug 24 To Jon Arnold      (82)   Re: Can't locate a file at Garbo
18  Aug 24 Timo Salmi         (167)  Re: Changes made in uploaded files??
19  Aug 14 To Anthony Naggs   (46)   Re: old version of FProt on Garbo
20  Jul 27 dongho@whipple     (36)   Thank You for your TP FAQ!
21  Jul 22 Keith Petersen - M (37)   Re: Mail servers and file sizes
22  Jul 23 To Klaus Troja     (103)  Re: Your TPU-Unit TSUNTENV for TP 6
23  Jul 20 Dan Lewis          (28)   E-Mail discussion group for TLBMM
24  Jul 19 Ari Hovila         (53)   Re: List of News Groups, MAC version
25  Jul 15 Nancy McGough      (31)   Re: creating a signature
26  Jul 8  To monat@grads.adm (133)  Re: bestp25b.zip
27  Jun 29 Jim Oliver         (23)   TSFCOM24.ZIP
28  Jun 17 To Dennis Sacks    (34)   Re: garbo mirror in US
29  Jun 16 Keith Petersen - M (26)   Re: Byte Magazine Source Code.
30  Jun 13 Mike Lawrie        (79)   getdrv.bat

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP  archives  128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi   BBS +(358)-61-3170972; FIN-65101,  Finland



From ccml@hippo.ru.ac.za  Sun Jun 13 23:09:47 1993
From: ccml@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mike Lawrie)
Message-Id: <9306132009.AA28904@hippo.ru.ac.za>
Subject: getdrv.bat
To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 22:09:41 +0200 (EET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20]
Status: RO

Timo

A .BAT file for your collection, if you want it. It gets the current
disk drive into an environment variable. This seems to be missing from
your great collection of BAT goodies.

I'm it's author, although the stimulus comes from your collection. Do
with it what you will.

Regards, Mike
--
Mike Lawrie                                    <ccml@hippo.ru.ac.za>
Director, Computing Services                   ph +27 461 22023 x 279
Rhodes University, Drostdy Rd                  fx +27 461 25049
Grahamstown 6140, South Africa


getdrv.bat
----------

@echo off
rem -------------------------------------------------------------
rem     getdrv.bat -- Stores the current drive in %drive%
rem
rem  Author: Mike Lawrie (ccml@hippo.ru.ac.za). June 1993
rem
rem  Creates/destroys a file DIRECTOR.BAT in the current directory
rem  as well as the files %tmp%\junk and %tmp%\go.bat
rem
rem  Based on ideas by Timo Salmi, and uses his ASKENV.EXE program.
rem -------------------------------------------------------------

rem -------------------------------------------------------------
rem  Point %getdrv1% to the file GETDRV1.BAT
rem -------------------------------------------------------------
set getdrv1=c:\bin\getdrv1.bat

rem -------------------------------------------------------------
rem  Find the current drive, store in %drive%
rem -------------------------------------------------------------
copy %getdrv1% director.bat > nul
dir | find "Directory" > %tmp%\go.bat
call %tmp%\go.bat
askenv anytext < %tmp%\junk > nul
set drive=%askenv%
set askenv=
set getdrv1=
if exist director.bat del director.bat
if exist %TMP%\go.bat del %TMP%\go.bat
if exist %TMP%\junk del %TMP%\junk
echo The current disk drive is %drive%
rem -------------------------------------------------------------



getdrv1.bat
-----------

@echo off
rem -----------------------------------------------------------
rem  getdrv1.bat
rem  Executed as DIRECTOR.BAT. Prepares the file "%tmp%\junk with
rem  the first line equal to the current drive.
rem -----------------------------------------------------------
if exist %tmp%\junk del %tmp%\junk
for %%d in (/%2) do echo %%d: >> %tmp%\junk
rem -----------------------------------------------------------



From w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil  Wed Jun 16 19:57:09 1993
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 12:57:04 -0400 (EDT)
To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Cc: ppk@saathi.ncst.ernet.in
Subject: Re: Byte Magazine Source Code.
In-Reply-To: <9306161642.AA12324@uwasa.fi> from "Timo Salmi" at Jun 16, 93 07:42:09 pm
From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR)
Message-Id: <9306161257.955.w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil>
Status: RO

> > Can you please let me know where I can get
> > June 1992 Byte Source Code?
> >
> > The sites I have checked have only very old
> > issues.

That is because Byte stopped releasing their monthly files to the
public.  They are now offering diskettes for sale by mail.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND

From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Jun 17 06:50:36 1993
Subject: Re: garbo mirror in US
To: dsacks@panther.mot.com (Dennis Sacks)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 06:50:36 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley),
        w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
In-Reply-To: <9306162002.AA00607@lx8.panther.mot.com> from "Dennis Sacks" at Jun 16, 93 01:02:51 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> I know there is a garbo mirror on wuarchive.wustle.edu, but it is down
> for maintenance currently. Are there any other mirrors of garbo that you
> know about in the US of A?

As far as I know, wuarchive is the only one in the states. There is
one in Australia and another one in Taiwan.  For details please see

 8057 Jun 3 23:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder25.zip
 moder25.zip  A list of MsDos FTP sites and moderators 3-Jun-93

   All the best, Timo

> ---
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dennis Sacks              "Hubby redfaced after bizarre weight loss ritual."-GT
> dsacks@panther.mot.com    "No one twisting his arm." - GT/LF
> Info Enterprises          standard_disclaimer :include

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland

From jim.oliver@stargate.actrix.gen.nz Tue Jun 29 23:06:47 EET DST 1993
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 18:53:00 -1200
From: jim.oliver@stargate.actrix.gen.nz (Jim Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: TSFCOM24.ZIP
Status: RO

I would like to say here that the files inside the ZIP file as subject
above are   m a r v e l l o u s. I have been using PCs from around the
time of the dinosaurs (i.e CP/M) and I have yet to find a set of more
useful, more user friendly files as found herein.

Recently I d/l this file from "my local" BBS and have been using
FILEPRNT.EXE in particular. It is really very easy to use by all the
users of our network, we have many different types of printers and
requirements, some of the users are very PC green and find this file
really easy to use and friendly.

Many, many thanks Timo.

Regards   -  James A Oliver <jim.oliver@stargate.actrix.gen.nz>


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Jul  8 08:20:33 1993
Subject: Re: bestp25b.zip
To: monat@grads.admin.uottawa.ca
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 08:20:33 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen), ajh@uwasa.fi (Ari Hovila)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930707134606.249@grads.admin.uottawa.ca> from "Paul Massue-Monat" at Jul 7, 93 01:46:06 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: O

Hello Paul,

>I would like to comment on the contents of the file 'bestp25b.zip'
>(I'm sure that I'm not the only one to comment since such opinions
>are often very personal).

Your message is very welcome, and you are making some good points.
In fact this is so interesting that I'll store this publicly in
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post16.zip.

>1. A real improvement to dc106f is 'df460.zip'. It works exactly as

This was a very good tip.  I got it from SIMTEL20 and took a look.
I fully agree that is is very much worth getting.

>dc (which works as the original dr) but it reads inside archived file
>in which it can also read. [For example: df list the directory
>c:\download in which you see the file new.zip - Press enter and see

To me the best addition would seem to be the ability to add and
remove file addtributes.  DF does that very neatly.  The archive
viewing feature is nice, but not as useful, as there is a still
clarly better option for that, that is SHEZ.  Besides, I did not
quite like the required auxiliary files of DF for archive viewing,
and the support for example for ARC archives is missing.

>the content of new.zip in which you see file readme.doc - Press enter
>again and see the content of the read.me file.]. You also can
>configure DF to your heart's content. (I added various file viewers to
>see inside graphs files, .wk? files, wordperfect files, etc.)

Again a good tip from you.  Yes, the configurability of Directory
Freedom is really good and useful.  One can factually write one's
own shells with it.

>2. Some of the files listed are not the latest incarnation. To find

I thought they all were pretty current, but I always can be
mistaken.

>that out, I use the batch file LOOK.BAT which says:
>
>   fgrep -sx %1 c:\simtel\simibm.idx | c:\simtel\simcvt | list /s/m
>
>fgrep is fgrep172.zip
>simibm.idx is the standard .idx file from simtel20
>simcvt.zip is in filedocs on simtel20
>list (it's on my path) is LIST77A.ZIP

Nice points.

>Maybe this batch file useage should be publicized a bit more. I
>learned about it a few years back when I started joining the Internet
>and I read the aaareadme files in simtel20.

Yes, why not.  It is only a posting away :-).  You are most welcome
to post the tip on comp.archives.msdos.d.

>3. I'm not an expert in archiving methods but it's seems to me that
>for smaller people (not an archive site like wasa and simtel20), a
>utility like LHA213.EXE is the best. It's free, fast, and gives a

Archivers are like editors.  Every one for his/her own choice.  In
this one I have disagree with you rather heavily.  The only
advantage LHA (actually lha255b) has over (PK)ZIP is its
self-extraction, and even that can be marginal if one uses the right
junior options for PKZIP.  The disadvantages are many.  No support,
unreachable author, bad documentation, missing date stamping, a lame
Unix version with eg no eoln handling, to mention a few.  It simply
is not on for the strict demands of FTP archive maintenance.

>small output. Of course, everyone needs an unzipper because .zip is
>the standard but if people just want to archive something they should
>(IMHO) not only use LHA but make an .exe file. An exe file adds a
>few thousand bytes but then it uncompresses itself automatically which
>is a real time saver.
>
>In fact, I would prefer to see archive sites storing their files in
>self-extracting files. It's easier for people. But I guess that 2,000
>bytes (added) multiplied by thousands of files is too much for an
>archive site.

It is not just a question of the added storage size.  In fact we do
not even accept self-extracting archives because of the problems
they pose.  One is virus checking.  The other is the date stamping.
The third is the lack of a good Unix version.

>4. I'm really surprised about this one: you actually recommend
>McAffee's antivirus program over F-PROT which is free and finds out
>more viruses than McAffee. In terms of quality, normally Dr.Solomon
>is number one (but far from free), F-PROT is number two (and FREE)
>and McAffee is number three (if not a distant third). In any case,
>it's always good practice to have two scanners readily available and
>not to rely only on scanners.

Then I have expressed myself a bit badly, because most of all I am
using each program as an example of its category.  I am not
downgrading the excellent FPROT in any way.  However, SCANV has some
advangates, like the possibilty of given better support activies.
Not that there is anything wrong with Skulason's.  Both are fine
products, and not even the only fine products in virus protection.
It is a close call between these products.

>                   -----------
>
>I use the occasion to thank you for everything you're doing for the
>Internet and Dos communities!
>
>Because of you, I will download a few more utilities to my hard disk!

It is very nice of you to say so, and I much appreciate it.

>Thanks.
>
>   Paul M.-Monat   monat@grads.admin.uottawa.ca   613-564-6895
>         Faculty of Administration - University of Ottawa

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland



From nancym@stein2.u.washington.edu Fri Jul 16 06:22:57 EET DST 1993
Article: 13041 of news.newusers.questions
From: nancym@stein2.u.washington.edu (Nancy McGough)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: creating a signature
Date: 15 Jul 93 19:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Status: RO

sarin@umiacs.umd.edu (Philip Sarin) writes:
>I'm using rn to read Usenet news on a Sun, and I'm very new to the whole
>thing.  Is there a way for me to create a simple signature file?

1] To get to your home directory type:  cd
2] To create a .signature file type:  pico .signature
   (Replace pico with your favorite editor. Note that on many
   systems the sig file must be 4 lines or less.)
3] To give it the right permission type:  chmod 644 .signature
4] To check the permission type:  ls -l .signature
   (It should say -rw-r--r--)
5] To give the directory the right permission type: chmod 755 .
6] To check the permission type:  ls -ld .
   (It should say drwxr-xr-x)

Note that the .signature file can also be used by other tools
like elm, pine, and nn.

Hope this helps,
Nancy

-Date: 18 Jan 1994 11:55:53 -0800
-From: Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>
-Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,comp.mail.misc,comp.unix.questions,alt.internet.services
-Subject: Signature and Finger FAQ


THE SIGNATURE AND FINGER FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
===================================================

Your signature and finger files are two ways you can tell people more
about yourself.  This article describes how to set these up on Unix
systems.  The following topics are covered:

      *  Automatic Signature on Mail and News
      *  Troubleshooting Signature Problems
      *  Changing Your Default Finger Info: chfn
      *  Adding More to Your Finger Info: .plan & .project



-Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
-From: Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>
-Subject: Automatic Signature on Mail and News

Q: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my news articles
   and mail messages?

A: The answer depends on your newsreader and mailer but the following
   procedure works for most Unix newsreaders and mailers.


Type...                 In order to...
-------                 --------------
cd                      Go to your home directory.

pico .signature         Use the pico editor to create a .signature file.
                        Note that most systems require your sig to be <= 4
                        lines.  (Replace "pico" with your favorite editor.)

chmod 644 .signature    Make .signature readable by all.

ls -l .signature        Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r--.

chmod +x .              Make home directory searchable by all.

ls -ld .                Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x.
                        The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each.

ls -la                  Check permission of files in home dir.  If any are
                        world writable (????????w?) you'll probably want
                        to change this by doing a "chmod o-w FileName".
                        For more info on changing permissions see chmod
                        man pages.



-Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
-From: Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>
-Subject: Troublshooting Signature Problems

If the procedure above doesn't work, read the man pages for your newsreader,
news poster, or mailer and search for the string "signature".  There may be a
variable you need to set in order for the .signature to be appended.

Type...                 In order to...
-------                 --------------
man CommandName |less   Open man pages for CommandName (elm, pine, nn, tin
                        trn, Pnews, etc.) and pipe through less.  If your
                        system doesn't have less replace it with "more".

/signature              Search for first occurrence of "signature".

n                       Search for next occurrence of "signature".
                        Repeat the search until you find the appropriate
                        section of the manual.

u                       Page up half a screen. (This only works in less)



-Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
-From: Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>
-Subject: Changing Your Default Finger Info: chfn

People around the world can find out more about you by "fingering"
you.  From a command line this is done by typing:

   finger YourEmailAddress

On many Unix systems you can change some of your default information,
such as your name, by typing the following at your Unix prompt:

   chfn

If chfn is not available you can try "passwd -f".  For more information
see the chfn, passwd, and finger man pages.



-Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
-From: Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>
-Subject: Adding More to Your Finger Info: .plan & .project

The .project and .plan files, if they exist, are displayed when you
are fingered.  Setting these up is essentially the same as setting
up a .signature file (described above).

Type...                 In order to...
-------                 --------------
cd                      Go to your home directory.

pico .plan              Use the pico editor to create a .plan file.
                        (Replace "pico" with your favorite editor.)

chmod 644 .plan         Make .plan readable by all.

ls -l .plan             Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r--.

chmod +x .              Make home directory searchable by all.

ls -ld .                Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x.
                        The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each.

ls -la                  Check permission of files in home dir.  If any are
                        world writable (????????w?) you'll probably want
                        to change this by doing a "chmod o-w FileName".
                        For more info on changing permissions see chmod
                        man pages.


If you want a .project file follow the same procedure.  Note that
the .project can be only one line.

--
Nancy McGough <nancym@ii.com>                                     **  **
Infinite Ink, Seattle, Washington, USA                           *  **  *
Anon FTP site: coming soon                                        **  **


-Date: 6 Aug 94 03:36:35 GMT
-From: tierna@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Britt Klein)
-Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
-Subject: FAQ on making and using a .signature file

Last updated: 27 June 1994

(This was excerpted in the June issue of _Internet_World_ magazine.  If
you saw it there and felt it incomplete, don't blame me, I didn't find out
about it until two months after publication!)

What follows are the bare basics on how to create a .signature file and get
it to append to your news posts and email.  It *should* work for most users.

I'm going to try and pop this thing off every 4 days or so, just to keep
it in people's faces and possibly eliminate the constant-request syndrome.

Anything in quotes is a prompt-line command and should work verbatim.
(Also, the terminology herein is quite near the lowest level of enduser.
This is on purpose, as the last thing new users need is to be confused by
too much technicalese.)

This is formulated for *nix-based systems, outside of that realm I'm
out of my level of expertise big-time.  I never claimed to know everything,
just enough to get around.

Yes, DO email for clarification or further information or advice.  I'm
perfectly willing to help people if they ask.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Get thee to thy home directory and therein edit thyself a file.  Name it
`.signature'.  Remember that inews and other news systems (the ones that
make up the majority of the news software on Usenet, actually) will cut
off everything after the fourth line, so it's good to stay below that limit.
If you've never used an editor, I suggest pico, as it's infinitely
user-friendly. ("pico .signature")
Make sure the .signature file is world readable ("chmod 744 .signature").

Now, your news posting software _should_ look for and automatically append
it to your posts.  If you're using Elm or mh for email, they ought to do same.
Some versions of mail and mailx will, also.

If you are using Elm and it doesn't automatically read on the end of your
messages, go to your .elm directory ("cd .elm") and edit your elmrc to get
the pointers looking for a .signature file (often the problem is that line
is commented out with a #, delete it).  This assumes your Elm, as mine,
supplies a .elm directory and elmrc file when invoked.  If not, the following
section should be the answer:
--
1. If you do not yet have a .elm/elmrc file, create one with the
   following steps:
   elm    (start elm)
   o      (options)
   >      (save)
   q      (quit elm)

2. Edit the .elm/elmrc file with your favorite text editor (newer
versions create a .elm directory and put the file `elmrc' into it.
If that doesn't happen, you'll need to create it at this point, then
edit), and insert the two lines
   localsignature = $HOME/.signature
   remotesignature = $HOME/.signature
according to the comment lines in that file
(Remember, to have those lines read, take out the #'s at the beginning.)
--
Torsten Dreier kindly supplied the information on getting things working
in Pine:
In your home directory you should have a file called '.pinerc'. Check
with 'ls -alg'. This file is the pine configuration. Edit it and search for
the section 'feature list'. To this section add the command
'signature-at-bottom' which will move the signature in replies to the end
of the original (quoted) text. As far as I know this only works for mail
not for newsgroups.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
NOTE:  Newsposting software normally does *not* show your .signature when
it asks about sending.  The only sure way to know is to post to a TEST
newsgroup to see.  Don't append manually thinking it's not there until you
know for certain.
And remember, to test your .signature, send email to yourself or a friend,
and send your posts to alt.test or misc.test with the Subject: ignore,
so you don't clutter up areas not meant for such things.  That way you'll
not get floods of email chiding you for improper newsgroup use.
Worldwide test groups send automatic replies to posts unless you include
the words "ignore" or "no reply" in the body of the message.

(Recommended reading: Professor Timo Salmi's FAQ on test posts periodically
posted to news.newusers.questions.)

- Britt

--
   ___
  /   \   tierna@agora.rdrop.com       tierna@tf.tcp.com
  \___/                       tierna@psg.com




From ajh@uwasa.fi  Mon Jul 19 10:27:37 1993
From: ajh@uwasa.fi (Ari Hovila)
Subject: Re: List of News Groups, MAC version
To: E.D.Brown@loughborough.ac.uk (Ed Brown)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 10:27:36 +0300 (EET DST)
Status: RO


> > >  65772 May 1 08:31 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/newsgrps.zip
> > >  newsgrps.zip List of Active Newsgroups, Gene Spafford & al.
> > >
> > How do I go about getting a mac version of the list of active newsgroups?
> > Thanks.
>
> There is no "mac version".  Actually, the list is not that platform
> dependent.  It is the same for Unix and MsDos at least.  So if you
> have unzip on Mac, then this file is it.  But I have no knowledge
> whether unzip is available on MAC.  In fact I have never even used a
> MAC.
>
>    All the best, Timo
>
> ..................................................................
> Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
> Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
> Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
> Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland

Hi Ed,

Well, Timo said it all: there is a unzip on mac and I verified this
with our mac specialist (Tuomas Eerola) So what you need to do is:

just download the file newsgrps.zip to your mac using binary
transfer mode. Then you need a Mac program capable of handling zip-
files. There is at least one I am aware of: unzip version 201. This
program can handle the EOLns of text files correctly, so you can
extract MsDos-text files.

You can get the most recent version of unzip by ftp from e.g.
sumex-aim.stanford.edu which has quite a collection of PD/SW
mac-software.

Hope this helps!

Ari

................................................................
Ari Hovila, ajh@uwasa.fi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Computer Centre, University of Vaasa, Box 700, FI-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Jul 23 02:18:26 1993
Subject: Re: Your TPU-Unit TSUNTENV for TP 6
To: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de (Klaus Troja)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 02:18:26 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930719182924.480@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de> from "Klaus Troja" at Jul 19, 93 06:29:24 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: O

> Dear Mr Salmi!
> I must set several environment variables in our net to set the type
> of computer, graphics, IP.. . So I am looking for a program to
> manipulate the environment. I can not execute a batch file from
> inside the login procedure! It must be a .com or .exe file! The
> computers are identified by their ethernet adress. This is a 12 digit
> hex number. Everything would be very simple if DOS allows 12
> characters for the filename: I can easily set up a different file for
> each computer.
> But so I must use another method. I found your TPU-Units to change
> the master environment. I can call a programm with the ethernet
> adress as parameter and set all the environment inside of this
> program. This works fine for one parameter but does not work for
> more.
> If I am doing the following:
>
> SETENV ('MYIP=134.169.70.193', status);
> SETENV ('NAME=PC-1', status);
> SETENV ('GRAPH=VGA', status);
> SETENV ('TYPE=386', status);
>
> Only the last setting is changed. It does not matter whether the
> variale is already set before executing. status is always 0 after
> each single calling. How is it possible to change more settings than
> only one. I can call the programm more times but this is not very
> good and takes a longer time. Any help would be appreciated. Or
> should I better post my question to USENET?
> Thanks for any answer.
>
> Klaus Troja
>
>
> ======================================================================
>     Klaus Troja                            Sprachenzentrum
>    Systembetreuer                        der TU Braunschweig
>                                             Postfach 3329
>                                         D-38023 Braunschweig
>                                                Germany
>
>        E-Mail:                                  Telefon:
>                                        ++49  531 391-5084/5086
>  Internet: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de      Fax:     -4577
> ======================================================================
>

Hello Klaus,

Here is a solution suggestion concerning TSUNTENV from
 108634 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3260.zip
 tspa3260.zip Turbo Pascal 6.0 units for (real:-) programmers
I hope it solves your problem.  Thank you for bringing this problem
to my anttention.  (I'll also post this to comp.lang.pascal).

(* Test setting several values at one go.
   This is quite complicated, since you have to trick the program
   by inserting the previous new values for the duration of the
   unit's external shell.  Here is how it goes:
(* Don't run these tests from within the IDE *)
procedure TEST4;
const n = 2;
var newset : array [1..n] of string;
    i      : integer;
    status : byte;
begin
  newset[1] := 'TEST1=TESTVALUE1';
  newset[2] := 'TEST2=TESTVALUE2';
  for i := 1 to n do
    begin
     if newset[i] <> '' then
       begin
         {... Carefully note this trick to allow more than one set ...}
         if i > 1 then
           SETENVSH (Copy(newset[i-1],1,5), Copy(newset[i-1],7,255));
         {}
         SETENV (newset[i], status);
           case status of
             0 : writeln ('No errors detected');
             1 : writeln ('Syntax error (Usage: variable=value)', #7);
             2 : writeln ('Out of environment space', #7);
             3 : writeln ('Missed the variable or the environment', #7);
           end;
       end
     else
       writeln ('Usage: TSUNTENV.EXE name=value');
    end;  {for}
end;  (* test4 *)

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil  Fri Jul 23 06:09:45 1993
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 23:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
To: ebutai@ebu.ericsson.se (Paul Tai)
Cc: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Mail servers and file sizes
In-Reply-To: <no.id> from "Paul Tai" at Jul 22, 93 11:23:14 pm
From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR)
Status: RO

Paul Tai wrote:
> When I download simtel20 file from a trickle server, the size of the
> decoded file (.ZIP) is usually anywhere from 30 to 100 bytes more than
> that shown on the index (simibm.lst).  However, I do not have this
> problem with downloads from garbo, i.e. the file size matches what is on
> the index.  Can anyone tell me why please?

Paul, the TRICKLE servers are not run by SIMTEL20.  We have no connection
with them.

TRICKLE questions and problem reports should be sent to:

                          Internet                  BITNET
"TRICKLE Maintainers" <RED-BUG@EGE.EDU.TR>      <RED-BUG@TREARN>

Are the extra bytes causing errors in your downloads?  Most ARC and ZIP
programs ignore extra bytes on the end of an archive file.  The files
are slightly larger because the VM operating system used by TRICKLE hosts
adds a bit of padding on the end of the file when it is fetched with FTP
from SIMTEL20.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND

From dan.lewis@ksp.com  Wed Jul 21 09:31:56 1993
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: E-Mail discussion group for TLBMM
From: dan.lewis@ksp.com (Dan Lewis)
Message-Id: <6c.891.4.0C449305@ksp.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 23:09:00 -0800
Organization: Key Software Products BBS, 415-364-9847 Mon-Fri 5pm-8am PST
Status: RO

Timo,

I just changed my UUCP software from uuPCB to PCBUUCP.  The latter
provides some additional features that were not available in uuPCB.
As a consequence, I've now implemented an e-mail discussion group
for The Last Byte Memory Manager as indicated below.


'Hope this helps!  Dan

..................................................................
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Key Software Products:      "Home of The Last Byte Memory Manager"
..................................................................
Subscribe to the TLBMM discussion group!  Send a one-line message
to listserv@ksp.com containing: "SUB TLBMM-L <your-name>".  Then
send your questions and comments to the group at tlbmm-l@ksp.com


From dongho%whipple.cs.wisc.edu@cs.wisc.edu  Tue Jul 27 21:01:20 1993
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 13:01:18 -0500
From: dongho%whipple@cs.wisc.edu
Message-Id: <9307271801.AA29454@snake12.cs.wisc.edu>
Received: by snake12.cs.wisc.edu; Tue, 27 Jul 93 13:01:18 -0500
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: Thank You for your TP FAQ!
Status: RO

Hello,

Today I FTPed your FAQs for Pascal.  I found them to be very
helpfull and I wanted to express my apreciation to you.  From the
FAQs (and the various other TPUs, etc) that you've released, I've
learned to program with a style that they do not teach us in comp.
sci. here.

In particular your TSUNTF.TPU really helped me out.  I was having
endless problems trying to design a decent text entry system (I am
still a novice Pascal programer) and your TPU saved my program.

Also, I read the comp.languages.pascal newsgroup and your postings
have always been informative and diplomatic.  I enjoy reading them
and almost always learn something from them (and as I progress in my
learning of Pascal, I'm sure I'll learn/understand even more).

I'm sure you get many pieces of mail everyday praising your
contribution to garbo.uwasa.fi and, indeed, the entire Pascal
programming community.  However, I felt compelled to let you know
how highly I think of your work.

Once again, thank you.

        - Matt


From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Aug 14 07:55:45 1993
Subject: Re: old version of FProt on Garbo
To: amn@ubik.demon.co.uk (Anthony Naggs)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 07:55:45 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <3784@ubik.demon.co.uk> from "Anthony Naggs" at Aug 13, 93 11:00:51 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>Hi,

Hello Anthony,

>I have just been looking at your pc/INDEX file, and noticed that you
>have a very old version of Fridrik Skulason's FProt a-v package still
>available, (pc/goldies/fprot116.zip).  I humbly suggest that such an old
>version of the software is not of great benefit to your users.

As for F-PROT you are probably right.  In more general terms the
idea of our /pc/goldies directory is preserve old version most often
because

1) The original user interface has been radically changed (and not
always for the better!).  A very good example of this is the Ample
Notice calendar utility.

2) The functionality of the later versions has been deliberately
somehow curtailed or crippled.  A good example of this is DSZ
Zmodem.

3) The newer version of the program does not work properly.  (Most
often, however, the new version will not be kept at all).  An
example of this is PC-Magazine's buggy Test Bench version 7.0.

   All the best, Timo

>Anthony Naggs                 Email:                  Paper mail:
> Software/Electronics Engineer amn@ubik.demon.co.uk    P O Box 1080, Peacehaven
> & Computer Virus Researcher                           East Sussex  BN10 8PZ
> Phone: +44 273 589701                                 Great Britain

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Aug 24 05:24:46 EET DST 1993
Article: 3530 of comp.archives.msdos.d
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Changes made in uploaded files??
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 02:13:05 GMT
Status: RO

-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 15:43:44 +0300 (EET DST)
-From: ts@uwasa.fi
-To: A Valued Garbo Contributor
-Subject: Re: Changes made in uploaded files ??

> Gentlemen:
>
> I downloaded the file /pc/xxxxxx/xxxxxx.zip, of which I am the author
> and which I uploaded to /pc/incoming a .... or so ago.  I was surprised
> to see that the zip comment had been removed, and a Garbo identifier put
> in its place.  The zip comment that was in the file when I uploaded it
> contained imnportant information, including a copyright notice and the
> Internet address for reporting errors.  I was not happy to see this
> information removed.
>
> Is this standard Garbo practice?

I can understand your dismay.  However, it is a standard Garbo
practice since at least two years now.  We always do that, for each
and every .zip file on Garbo.

In general putting important information into the .zip header is an
untenable practice for any author, since many if not most BBSes do
this.  In fact many BBS upload handling programs do that
automatically as a routine.  So do the Garbo scripts.  The rule of
thumb is never to trust the permanence of the .zip file comment.

It came as a surprise to me that you did not know of this very
common practice.  Sorry.  I should obviously have forewarned you
long since.

> Regards,

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 12:29:49 +0300 (EET DST)
-From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
-To: Another Garbo User
-Subject: Re: Changes made in uploaded files at Garbo ??

>Timo Salmi wrote:
>>this.  In fact many BBS upload handling programs do that
>>automatically as a routine.  So do the Garbo scripts.  The rule of
>>thumb is never to trust the permanence of the .zip file comment.
>
>Why do you do this?

To give the information where the file was last downloaded from, and
to impose the information about the main fields of the various Garbo
modertors so that the user queries would usually go to the right
places directly.

>Yes, I know many BBS'es do it too, and I would like to ask them the
>same question.
>
>It causes extra trouble for downloaders who want the .ZIP file comment
>to contain useful information about what's there instead of advertising
>for the particular BBS from where the file happened to be downloaded.
>
>As a standard practice, I remove all such comments from .ZIP files
>I get from Garbo and other places.  First I check if the .ZIP comment
>is meaningful (on some BBS'es it is!), if so I keep it. If the comment
>is only advertising and tells nothing about the ZIP file content,
>I replace it first with an empty comment, to later be replaced by a
>meaningful comment (which has to be phrased after reading the read.me
>file or anything similar within the archive).
>
>It seems counterproductive that e.g. Garbo first removes meaningful
>.ZIP file comments with "advertising", and the user who downloads the
>file later will have to remove this "advertising" and replace it with
>a meaningful comment....

Candidly, I am much more worried about extra work to the archive
site maintainers than to the downloaders.  This is not even for
selfish reasons.  We don't have the time to assess whether the .zip
comment is the original or a later plug-in.  We either would discard
it altogether as you say you do, or substitute ours.  I understand
your view, but our valued uploaders and downloaders will have to
understand the sheer volume of material we handle.  We must have
standard, preset routines.  If we did not, we would not be able to
cope and bring you these ***FREE*** services.  It is sometimes quite
difficult even as it is now.

There is an additional detail.  The .zip comments at Garbo must have
a uniform number of lines, in order that contents files like
/pc/turbopas/0turbopa.zip can be made.  They are not possible
otherwise.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 15:15:38 +0300 (EET DST)
-From: ts@uwasa.fi
-To: c9219517@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Scott Howard)
-Subject: Re: Changes made in uploaded files at Garbo ??

>In article <1993Aug26.040312.3717@uwasa.fi> you wrote:
>: In article <9323812.6129@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> icd@gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU
(Ian_Cornell DONALDSON) writes:
>: >Is it possible that the changing of the ZIP comment is causing those
>: >ZIP files with auethticity packages to give the warning "This file may
>: >have been tampered with" ? Occaisonly I have had this message, even
>: >though all files in the ZIP have checked out "-AV" okay.
>
>: As far as I know, in a word no.  The -AV label test the individual
>: files within the .zip.

> Right and wrong.  I believe the  -AV  bit does actually test the file
> itself, but the message at the end of the file uses more than this - it
> seems to actually use a checksum of the entire file, and thus changing
> comments on files _should_ cause this to err.

Hi Scott,

Well...  I have never encountered a .zip file where the changing of
the header would have an effect on the -AV results.

A recent example if you wish to test this the case is given by

 234783 Aug 2 06:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/virus/tbav604.zip
 tbav604.zip  Thunderbyte Anti-Virus complete package

It has the -AV labels, we've changed the .zip comments, and the
package still checks perfectly OK.  No, the reported problems are
due to users' errors in transferring the files, or selection of the
pkunzip version.

Note that what I say is not based on internal knowledge of the PKZIP
code, but just on practical experience.  The only unambiguous answer
would require looking at the source code, and we do not have access
to that.  But before I even ask PKWare, I need at least one example
.zip package where changing the .zip comment truly has an effect.  I
am not saying that it is impossible, but I would be quite surprised
if someone can point me to such an example.  (But then, I've been
wrong before.)

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Aug 24 05:43:53 1993
Subject: Re: Can't locate a file at Garbo
To: jarnold@tixel.MV.COM (Jon Arnold)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 05:43:53 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>
> Timo,
>  > In article <1993Aug23.131922.5856@uwasa.fi> you write:
>  >
>  > In article <ts9308230331.6030@chyde.uwasa.fi> root@garbo.uwasa.fi (The root of >  all evil) writes:
>  > >ftp statistics for node garbo (computed Mon Aug 23 00:23:01 EET DST 1993)
>  > >100 most active files by number of retrievals
>  >
>  > Some users have been asking for an annotated list.  Here is a
>  > preliminary one of the MsDos files in the top 100, but in an
>  > alphabetical order.
>  >
>  > arc602.exe      SEA's un/packing system for .arc files (self-extr.)
>  > arj241a.exe     Arj file archiver by Robert Jung
>  > authwn02.zip    Email addresses of Windows shareware and PD authors
>      etc
>  > rmail41.zip     PC ReadMail news&email&msg, J.Schipper (excellent)
>  >   etc

> It sounds as if the rmail41.zip program might be exactly what I
> need.  However, in doing an ftp to garbo.uwasa.fi I was unable
> to find this archive that supposedly exists there?  Looking for

The file to get first is /pc/INDEX.ZIP

> it with archie did not seem to find it either.

Archie is not nearly as useful as often thought.  It is often out of
date, and there are no guarantees that data bases are complete at
all archie sites.

> Whatever advice or suggestions you could offer would certainly
> be appreciated.

A sample session:
> ftp garbo.uwasa.fi
Connected to garbo.uwasa.fi.
220 garbo.uwasa.fi FTP server (Version 5.80 Fri Apr 2 13:55:48 EET DST 1993) ready.
Name (garbo.uwasa.fi:ts): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
Password: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd /pc/mail
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls -CF
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
backmail.txt    fd202.zip       metamail.zip    pktsec.zip
bkmail11.zip    ge_100.zip      nfsm22.zip      rmail41.zip
cmail24d.zoo    gnews111.zip    offli140.zip    smailbin.zip
emkit200.zip    mail.zip        pcelm301.zip    view9206.zip
226 Transfer complete.
remote: -CF
198 bytes received in 0.12 seconds (1.6 Kbytes/s)
ftp> binary
200 Type set to I.
ftp> mget rmail*
mget rmail41.zip? y
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for rmail41.zip (78201 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
local: rmail41.zip remote: rmail41.zip
78201 bytes received in 0.4 seconds (1.9e+02 Kbytes/s)
ftp> close
221 Goodbye.
ftp> quit

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Aug 25 10:56:04 1993
Subject: Re: Listing of files at garbo?
To: ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 10:56:04 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <9308242329.AA10623@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Eric Huppertz" at Aug 24, 93 06:29:27 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: O

> Hi Timo!
>
> Thanks again for a great service.
>
> I was wondering if there was a file I could download that contains abstracts
> of the files available at Garbo, specifically windows apps but I would like
> them all.  I'm sure it will take me 4.4 days to get through it but I'd like
> it anyway :-).
>
> Thanks, and best to you.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> -  ()()    ()()  ()  ()()()    Eric J. Huppertz             ejhupper@ilstu.edu
>  ()()()  ()         ()         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> ()      ()     ()  ()              "Oh, that's just my brain. It's always
> ()()   ()     ()  ()()()              falling out."  --Stimpson J. Cat


Hello Eric,

Thank you for the Garbo compliment.  Appreciated.

I do not maintain the Windows material, but here is the answer for
the MsDos material.  (The answer for the Windows material is far far
more scanty.  Only the index, actually).

The Garbo annotated Msdos file list is
 81879 Aug 23 16:36 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEX.ZIP
 INDEX.ZIP The list of garbo.uwasa.fi MsDos files zipped
these give one line file definitions.

Additionally, there is
 17045 Aug 18 15:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP
 INDEXTS.ZIP Details of the contents of each TS-package in zipped form

If you want some kind of abstracts here are the files to see

 7551 Jul 3 05:53 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/bestp25b.zip
 bestp25b.zip Timo's choice of 25 best MsDos SW and PD programs

 30953 Jun 9 22:40 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/review12.zip
 review12.zip Users' MsDos program reviews from the UseNet news

 23968 Jun 4 01:49 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/filelist/useful27.zip
 useful27.zip The Most Useful MSDOS Programs at Simtel and Garbo, S.Ko

 3752 Jun 4 23:44 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/MSDOSANN.ZIP
 MSDOSANN.ZIP Information on the joint SIMTEL20 & Garbo mailing list

News absrtacts about selected programs at Garbo ar given in

 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news-pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news89.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news90.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news91a.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news91b.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news92a.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news92b.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/news93a.pd2
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/0news-ts
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/0news89.ts
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/0news90.ts
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/0news91.ts
 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/0news92.ts

 news-pd2     News about the uploads in the /pc (the MsDos) directories
 news89.pd2   The news announcements of 1989 on /pc/pd2 directory
 news90.pd2   The news announcements of 1990 on /pc/pd2 directory
 news91a.pd2  News about files in /pc directories, 1-Jan to 31-Apr-91
 news91b.pd2  News about files in /pc directories, 1-May to 31-Dec-91
 news92a.pd2  News about files in /pc directories, 1-Jan to 30-Jun-92
 news92b.pd2  News about files in /pc directories, 1-Jul to 31-Dec-92
 news93a.pd2  News about files in /pc directories, 1-Jan to 30-Jun-93

 0news-ts     Latest news about the files in /pc/ts directory
 0news89.ts   The news announcements of 1989 on ts-programs
 0news90.ts   The news announcements of 1990 on ts-programs
 0news91.ts   The news announcements of 1991 on ts-programs
 0news92.ts   The news announcements of 1992 on ts-programs

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From abridle@polaris.cv.nrao.edu  Thu Aug 26 00:09:35 1993
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 17:09:08 -0400
From: abridle@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Alan Bridle)
Message-Id: <9308252109.AA24080@polaris.cv.nrao.edu>
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: Thank you for the TP FAQ
Status: RO

>52590 Aug 18 14:53 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaqp15.zip
>tsfaqp15.zip Common Turbo Pascal Questions and Timo's answers

Dear Prof. Salmi,

Just to thank you for the excellent FAQ text you maintain
for Turbo Pascal.  As an "occasional" TP programmer and
former teacher, I appreciate the trouble you have gone
to in putting this together.  It is a great help to
someone like myself, and I recognize how much work lies
behind it.

With best regards,

Alan Bridle
abridle@nrao.edu


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Aug 30 11:00:58 1993
Subject: Re: TSTSR17.ZIP NOBREAK
To: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de (Klaus Troja)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 11:00:58 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930829215049.368@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de> from "Klaus Troja" at Aug 29, 93 09:50:49 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: O

>Hello Timo!

Hi Klaus,

What you describe below sounds like a typical problem of the order
the programs are loaded in.  Some programs have break handlers of
their own which they superimpose.  I do not really know enough to be
able to circumvent this problem in my own programs.  TSRs are such a
difficult territory.

I'll include this information in the Garbo feedback files.

   All the best, Timo

>Nobreak has the same problem like some other programs I tried before.
>If you load a keyboard driver after such a program (disable, nobreak,
>..) Ctrl C and Ctrl Break work again fine. This is really a problem
>because I try to setup a secure network where the students cannot
>escape from the menus and batch files.
>And I must load the German keyboard driver. With DOS 6.0 you can
>installhigh in config.sys and load nobreak after the keyboard driver.
>This works but cannot be used with older versions.
>I tried also BREAK.SYS from SIMTEL and CADEL.ZIP from SIMTEL.
>Break.sys works fine, uses only 400 bytes, is a device driver but is
>also disabled by the keyboard driver.
>CADEL disables Ctrl-Alt-Del Ctrl-C and Ctrl-Break. This works also if
>you load a keyboard driver after it. But if you try these key often
>the computer crashes. (It does not really crash but all the
>characters entered get as ^character to the command line).
>Perhaps you should mention the problems with keyboard drivers loaded
>after your utilities in the docs.
>
>======================================================================
>    Klaus Troja                            Sprachenzentrum
>   Systembetreuer                        der TU Braunschweig
>                                            Postfach 3329
>                                        D-38023 Braunschweig
>                                               Germany
>
>       E-Mail:                                  Telefon:
>                                       ++49  531 391-5084/5086
> Internet: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de      Fax:     -4577
>======================================================================

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From mcr@holly.demon.co.uk Tue Aug 31 06:49:28 EET DST 1993
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: mcr@holly.demon.co.uk (Mark Rogers)
Subject: Re: Dos Errorlevel
Lines: 24
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 17:06:30 +0000
Status: O

In article <1993Aug28.165320.14934@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
> In article <52040001@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com> mohdisa@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Izauddin MOHD ISA) writes:
> >Is there a way to know what errorlevel a program return when it
> >exit or finished running.
>
> See "LEVEL.BAT Testbench for program errorlevel" in /pc/ts/tsbat43.zip

I can recommend this one - no programmer should be without it! Of-course,
it's easy enough to write one yourself:

rem call the program...
%1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9

rem check errorlevel
if errorlevel 0 if not errorlevel 1 echo Errorlevel 1
if errorlevel 1 if not errorlevel 2 echo Errorlevel 2

.etc. But the other batch files in Timo's collection are all sources of
inspiration.

Mark.
--
mcr@holly.demon.co.uk          "I'm an egg in the teeth of a shark" (Squeeze)



From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Sep  3 15:52:40 1993
Subject: Re: CHOOSE default characters.
To: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de (Klaus Troja)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 15:52:40 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Hello Timo!

Hi Klaus,

> I want to use the newest version of choose because I cannot use
> choice.com with DOS < 4.0. But the default letters in German are not
> Y,N but J,N. Can you just tell me where I can patch it or perhaps
> recompile a version with default J,N.
> It is not only the message (that should be no problem) but also the
> allowed characters.

Thank you for your welcome question on
 46394 Aug 15 06:30 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutlf13.zip
 tsutlf13.zip Timo's 6th utility set (advdate,choose,strings,strmemo)

The intended language of my programs is English all along, and thus
I do not encourage patching, rather vice versa.  If fact some of my
program have an anti-patching selftest.  But why not use CHOOSE (or
the MsDos CHOICE) giving the letter list.  It is very
straighforward.  That is what I would do in a Finnish environment,
myself.

> Thanks for your great work.

I appreciate the compliment.

> Klaus
> ======================================================================
>     Klaus Troja                            Sprachenzentrum
>    Systembetreuer                        der TU Braunschweig
>                                             Postfach 3329
>                                         D-38023 Braunschweig
>                                                Germany
>
>        E-Mail:                                  Telefon:
>                                        ++49  531 391-5084/5086
>  Internet: KLAUS@mail.sz.etc.tu-bs.de      Fax:     -4577
> ======================================================================

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep  5 22:31:21 1993
Subject: Re: Runtime error with LEDS
To: tsu@luna.att.com
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 22:31:21 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <9309051853.AA29037@uwasa.fi> from "tsu@luna.att.com" at Sep 2, 93 01:03:00 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: O

>       Professor Salmi:
>
>       In case this is not encountered by others, I want to report a
>       "Runtime error 202 at 0000:01BA" when I tried out the LEDS
>       program.
>
>       The program will load fine and function as advertised. When I
>       tried, however, to execute some memory map programs such as
>       LOADHI from QEMM, MEM from DR DOS or even a plain ond CHKDSK,
>       I'd get the runtime error and the system would freeze and an
>       manual reset was in order.
>
>       This would have been a useful program for me.
>
>
>       Thanks,
>       Tim Su
>       tsu@luna.ATT.COM

Hello Tim,

Thank you for the feedback on my LEDS.EXE from /pc/ts/tstsr17.zip.
I am sorry that you are experiencing problems.  I can't reproduce
the error on an MsDos system.  If this only takes place under DR DOS
there is nothing I can do about it.  Contrary to the frequent
assurances DR DOS, 4DOS and other MsDos and/or command.com
replacements are _not_ 100% compatible, and TSR programs use quite
complicated system level calls.  This is not even the first time I
have come across obviously DR DOS based problems in both my own
programs and those of other programmers.

Can you make this error appear on a plain vanilla MsDos under any
circumstances?

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi  Mon Sep 13 07:06:06 1993
Subject: Re: How and what to upload to Garbo (fwd)
To: Garbo uploader
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 07:06:06 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

(For general information, this is an exchange with valued Garbo
uploader after an unannounced upload from him, and after sending him
our upload instructions.)

> Jesus Christ!

Hello ....,

> Is that a yes or a no to you placing my files on your site?

It is neither.  I sent the Garbo uploading instructions to you to
inform you what it takes to get a submission considered.  Some sites
like ours do not welcome uploads without contacting the moderators.
The valued uploaders should read the following files prior to
uploading to Garbo

 11914 Sep 10 16:22 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/UPLOAD.INF
 UPLOAD.INF Instructions for uploading to Garbo archives

 4628 Sep 10 16:22 3066 Jan 19 1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/UPTEXT.INF
 UPTEXT.INF The recommended formula for your Garbo upload announcements

> To tell you the truth, I rather pound sand in my own ass than
> read that whole thing...

Most of our valued uploaders see things in a different light than
you seem to do, and use uploading instructions.  But if you feel it
is too cumbersome let's just forget it.  At a quick glance your
uploads would seem to have probably been outside Garbo categories,
anyway.

> Thanks anyway...

No harm done, but it would save both the valued uploaders' and our
own time if the valued uploaders would first find out what a
submission to the particular FTP site takes.

> I'll find another site.

There are plenty listed in
 12844 Sep 12 15:22 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder30a.zip
 moder30a.zip A list of MsDos FTP sites and moderators

You'll probably find it worth your while to contact a moderator, or
find out in some other way, if there are any pre-requirements or a
quality control at the target site _before_ uploading.  The system
varies videly from site to site.

> ....

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland



From w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil Thu Sep 16 20:58:18 EET DST 1993
From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce
Subject: SIMTEL20 collection to be frozen on Friday September 17
Summary: Repost to correct the date
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 19:22:27 GMT
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Status: RO

A SIMTEL20 user wrote:
> Until what date are you accepting uploads?

The SIMTEL20 collection will be frozen at close of business on Friday
September 17.  After that date uploads will not be accepted because I
will be on vacation through September 30, the date that SIMTEL20 is
scheduled to be shut down.

Later this week or early next week I will be announcing the new site
where I will be doing the origination of the MS-DOS collection.  New
upload instructions will be available after I return from vacation.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND


-Date: 25 Sep 1993 00:09:26 GMT
-From: emv@garnet.msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
-Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
-Subject: Re: Replacement for SIMTEL20 known yet?

Janet Brittle Shea (shea@oasys.dt.navy.mil) wrote:

: I would interpret this to mean that he planned to post something between
: Sept. 16 and now.  I would guess that either negotiations did not progress
: as he had hoped or that his schedule got too hectic just before vacation.
: In the same message, he said that he would be on vacation through Sept.
: 30.  We will have to wait until October to learn of the new site.

I have it on good authority that the efforts to move SIMTEL20 are
proceeding as planned, and I can't say anything more at this time.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562 (fax: 998 4563)


-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:49:56 GMT
-From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
-Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce
-Subject: Re: New MS-DOS site replacing SIMTEL20?

A SIMTEL20 user wrote:
> I must have missed your announcement of the new site where you are
> originating the MS-DOS collection. Could you post it + the mirror sites
> where people can obtain the programs in the collection?

You did not miss the announcement.  We are still in the process of
configuring the new origination site.  An announcement will be posted
to the net in a few days when this has been completed.

OAK.Oakland.Edu will continue to be the primary mirror site.  Since
all the other mirror sites were mirroring OAK, not SIMTEL20, they will
continue as well.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND



From oneill@cs.uml.edu Tue Sep 21 06:29:27 EET DST 1993
Article: 19107 of comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
From: oneill@cs.uml.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: CBIP moderator looking for replacement
Date: 20 Sep 1993 18:44:16 GMT
Organization: UMass-Lowell Computer Science
Lines: 23
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27ktm0$2sf@ulowell.uml.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.uml.edu
Status: RO

As my time is becoming more and more limited due to teaching several courses
(and actually developing a social life again... :^), I am interested in
standing down as moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc by the end of the year.
Anyone willing to put in the time as moderator, which means sorting through
postings, packaging them up properly, scanning them, and testing them should
contact me so we can figure out a good way to switch over without messing up
CBIP...

I have enjoyed the two years acting as moderator, with only one "incident"
to speak of (I was reading my log of that, and it was most amusing...), but
since my interests in the DOS world have dwindled, and other considerations
I find I no longer have the time to maintain CBIP (although, for the first
time since I became moderator, the queue end is within site - if I worked
hard on it, I could probably post everything in a week).

I will continue to maintain the Games Archive on ftp.uml.edu, which has been
seriously neglected as of late due to the same pressures, but only having to
worry about one of them will make it easier...

=======================================================================
Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science        (508) 934-3645
University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Internet: oneill@cs.uml.edu             Moderator, comp.binaries.ibm.pc


From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Sep 29 06:10:10 1993
Subject: Re: The Quality On GARBO
To: jkennedy@netcon.smc.edu (John Kennedy)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 06:10:11 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9309290241.AA06582@netcon.smc.edu> from "John Kennedy" at Sep 28, 93 07:41:38 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Timo,
> .
> I am relatively new to the Internet but I wanted to let you know I
> think the material on garbo is truly outstanding.  I am an avid Turbo
> Pascal user.  I agree with your sentiments that quality should take
> precedence over quantity.  In any event, you and your staff are performing
> a wonderful service and the quality on garbo is a direct reflection of
> your philosophy and efforts.  A job well done indeed!
> .
> Also, if you are interested in matrices and haven't seen the program
> MATRIX.EXE that is in pc/math/jkmath10.zip you might find this program
> worth looking at.
> .
> Thanks again for your efforts.

Dear Garbo User,

Much appreciated.  I'll take the liberty of sharing your nice
compliment and your tip (hence the full quoting of your message).

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Sep 29 07:15:14 1993
Subject: Re: simibm.zip for uwasa
To: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 07:15:14 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <m0ohhq0-000y2pC@isacal> from "Kevin Jameson" at Sep 28, 93 10:23:00 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Timo, is there an database index of the programs on uwasa, like the
> simibm.idx file for the simtel20 mirror sites?  If so, would you please
> pass along the appropriate information to me?
>
> Thanks

Not directly, but there is a program that can make such an index for
you:

 7340 Mar 26 1993 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/filelist/garboidx.zip
 garboidx.zip Create a simtel SIMIBM.IDX-compatible Garbo index file

Also of interest:

 3754 Apr 27 10:36 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/ts/gfind
 gfind A convenient script for Garbo index searches

> PS. I appreciate the work that you do for the msdos archives.  It seems
> like a lot.  And I no idea that so many calls were made to the archives
> every day (judging by the statistics that you post).  People certainly
> are using the archive!

Yes, I have to admit that it does take a lot of work.  Much of it
invisible and done by my fellow moderator Ari Hovila whose coming to
Garbo has really been God sent.

Seeing the results in the form of usage statistics enhances the
motivation of doing this despite the time and effort it unavoidably
takes.  But I like to do this as long as I am not abused for my
various activities and fortunately that has not happened since last
spring.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Oct  1 22:04:35 1993
Subject: Re: Suggestion for dirw
To: bj@herbison.com (B.J. Herbison)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 22:04:35 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <2caaa803.herbison@herbison.com> from "B.J. Herbison" at Sep 30, 93 05:33:53 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>Timo
>
>I recently pulled over your first group of utilities (tsutil.zip)
>and I'm glad I did -- I found the sysinfo especially interesting.

Thank you.  I am pleased to hear that you liked /pc/ts/tsutil39.zip.
It is originally one of my first packages for the PC.

>However, it didn't serve the purpose for which I originally
>copied the file.  I was looking for a du utility (since one
>isn't present in the gnuish msdos collection) and your announcement
>mentioned that DIRW /T/S/Q provided `du information'.  It
>does cover total disk usage, but when I use du I usually also
>want the totals for subdirectories as well -- it would be nice
>if there were a way to obtain that.

We have to bear in mind that DIRW is primarily a directory listing
tool rather than a specialized du (disk usage) program even if it
has some features of the latter.  But you can, inf fact, get the
total disk usage of a subdirectory and its children simply by
referring to it like this

   DIRW c:\mysub /s /t /q

>I would also appreciate it if there were a way to reduce the
>size of the header that is displayed when your programs are
>run.  DIRW/s/q/t produces six lines of output when one would

Ah, but having the headers forced on you is effectively the only
price the users pay :-). It is quite deliberate from my part.

>suffice.  At work, when I use 68 line windows plus the ability
>to scroll backward I wouldn't mind, but on a 24 line screen
>with no history it is nice to have concise command output.

That is not a problem. There are excellent screen buffer programs in
circulation. My recommendation is Charles Aitkens's shareware
 43298 May 30 01:07 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/screen/scrlit17.zip
 scrlit17.zip SCROLLit, Advanced Screen ScrollBack Buffer
Even if you would not want it specifically for this purpose, it is a
very good acquisition.

>Thank you for your utilities, I will be looking at the other
>packages when I get some more free time.

Enjoy.

   All the best, Timo

>                                       B.J.
>--
>B.J. Herbison           Herbison Consulting         Another Asylum
>bj@herbison.com         +1 508 534-1050             18 Drummer Lane
>                        42 29 30 N / 071 44 10 W    Leominster, MA  01453  USA

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Oct  3 06:04:29 1993
Subject: Re: TS Index?
To: n9146070@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Jacob C Kesinger)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 06:04:29 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9310030032.AA28997@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu> from "Jacob C Kesinger" at Oct 2, 93 05:32:45 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Is there an index for the stuff in /pc/ts?  I couldn't find
> one.
>
> --Jake (who just got tsfaqp15.zip)
>
> --
> Jake Kesinger             n9146070@henson.cc.wwu.edu
> "What could possibly go wrong?"

 17094 Sep 20 04:14 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP
 INDEXTS.ZIP Details of the contents of each TS-package

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Oct  4 10:05 EET 1993
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: OS/2 virus utils...
To: marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:05:15 +0200 (EET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> aryeh@mcafee.com (McAfee Associates) writes:
>
> > Garbo and the late SIMTEL20 do not accept uploads of OS/2 programs.  You
> > can, however, download them by anonymous ftp from the mcafee.com site.
>
> Is there anyway that you could make an exception to your no-OS/2
> programs policy regarding OS/2 anti-virus programs?  There are a fair
> number of people who can NOT FTP to anywhere they want, but can get to a
> mirror of garbo; such as me.

Hello Marc,

I understand, and it is a fair question.  But I do not want to take
this step.  I wish Garbo to specialize, and there are pressures as
it is without going into the OS/2 direction.  More importantly,
accepting OS/2 material would mean us having to set up one OS/2
machine to do program checking, and conduct the cheacks.  We cannot
afford the time required by such added activities.  Furthermore, I
can't afford to get involved with the comp.os2 news hierarchy.  I
have my hands full enough with comp.archives.msdos.* as it is.
Sorry.

Try using email servers to sites that carry OS/2 material.

   All the best, Timo


-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:00:15 -0400 (EDT)
-From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
-To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
-Cc: marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
-Subject: Re: OS/2 virus utils...

This is also the reason why SIMTEL20 did not support OS/2.  There was no
way to test the programs and no archivist to review and catalog them.

The official OS/2 archive site on the internet is os2.cdrom.com.  Please
contact them about how to access the collection via e-mail servers.  I
do not know the address of the archivist, but a note to postmaster
should suffice.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce and the MSDOS-Ann mailing list
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND


> --
> ===========================================================================
>         Marc Slemko        | marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  |
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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
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From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Oct  4 21:18:16 1993
Subject: Re: Image uploading policies?
To: rjohnson@shell.com (Roy Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:18:16 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9310041728.AA10937@conus.xxx.shell.com> from "Roy Johnson" at Oct 4, 93 12:28:31 pm
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Status: RO

>
> What are your policies about uploading and downloading images at
> your site?
>

Very strict.  The images must have a clear scientific and/or
educational flavor or be direcectly linked to our environement in
order to be even considered.  The space probe images in
/pc/gif-astro may give an indication of what I mean.  We also have
images showing our location on the map, and one set for relaxation
of Greta Garbo as an execption for reasons that should be obvious.

As for downloading, you are free to download whatever images we have
:-) :-).

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FIN-65101,  Finland


