From ts@uwasa.fi  Sun Mar 21 19:15:00 1993
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: /pc/pd2/tspost15.zip file description
To: ts@uwasa.fi  (Timo Salmi)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 99 6:46:16 EET
Status: RO

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
! This file is in mail format, so you can also read it with any !
! suitable Unix mail program such as elm: (elm -f post15.txt).  !
! On a PC /pc/mail/rmail*.zip is a convenient alternative       !
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

   This is the fifteenth file that contains my replies and comments
that I or others have made by email, or just written here instead of
posting to (mainly to) comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives, or postings
that I wanted to retain for your information.
   Note that the latest tspost??.zip is always being updated until
it contains 30 messages.  The files are located at the /pc/pd2
directory.
   For an index of all the post*.zip files please see
/pc/pd2/tspost00.zip.

1   Dec 31 To Timo Salmi      (31)   /pc/pd2/post15.txt file description
2   Jun 8  To Combined SIMTEL (59)   Re: Uploads to Garbo by Email ?
3   Jun 8  To Carl Robinson   (29)   Re: You, Timo Salmi
4   Jun 2  Timo Salmi         (34)   Monthly Garbo statistics discontinue
5   Jun 2  To Keith Petersen  (54)   New Garbo personnel
6   May 27 To Ian Pleasance   (52)   Re: Need source code for TSUNTI
7   May 25 To kohzadi@ccu.UMa (49)   Re: ts2st22.zip Statistics: Multiple
8   May 19 To Andrew B. Park  (63)   Re: Garbo background
9   May 18 To Edward R. Gofor (72)   Re: Writing program evaluations
10  May 18 Sven Guckes        (39)   Re: Kibo's Summer Bandwidth Shrink?
11  May 12 To Roma Dimov      (43)   Re: TS-units for protected mode.
12  Apr 29 Roy Coates         (30)   Puns et al
13  Apr 28 Timo Salmi         (128)  Garbo MsDos backlog
14  Apr 26 To Ivo Sir         (50)   Re: Including TP drivers in the .exe
15  Apr 19 Hannu Hirvonen     (26)   Re: ftp statistics for node garbo
16  Apr 19 Bart Bartholomew   (18)   FTP-ing files & typeahead
17  Apr 18 David_Conrad@MTS.c (90)   Useful batch files, deleting with MD
18  Apr 13 To Carl Baron      (53)   Re: How to adavance the date?
19  Apr 12 To Iain Sillars    (53)   Re: MODER22.ZIP and other problems
20  Apr 11 To Daniel L Evans  (37)   Re: garboidx.zip
21  Apr 2  To Richard Gardner (54)   Re: What happens to Garbo uploads?
22  Apr 2  To charles aitkens (73)   Re: SCROLLit Scrollback buffer
23  Apr 1  To Keith Petersen  (43)   Re: ZIP 2.x files and Garbo
24  Mar 30 To chris@chrism.de (60)   Re: Are Windows uploads accepted?
25  Mar 28 Keith Petersen - M (34)   Re: old msdos-announce
26  Mar 28 To FTP Site Modera (101)  An example of network harassment
27  Mar 27 To david reimer f  (57)   Re: Plea for help!
28  Mar 23 To David Weisberge (90)   Re: Getting zip to act like compress
29  Mar 22 Robert Kastigar    (52)   Best wishes
30  Mar 22 To darrylo@hpmwtd. (37)   Re: CAM.announce and CAM.d FAQ (Freq

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP  archives  128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi   BBS +(358)-61-3170972; FIN-65101,  Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Mar 22 21:04:33 1993
Subject: Re: CAM.announce and CAM.d FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
To: darrylo@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 21:04:33 +0200 (EET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Hi,

Hello Darryl,

>      How about posting this to news.answers, also?  I'm automatically
> archiving news.answers, and it would be very nice if your FAQ lists were
> automatically archived.

Thank you for this frequent tip.  My FAQ lists already are
automatically archived as
 9409 Mar 20 08:22 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/camfaq.zip
 camfaq.zip comp.archives.msdos.(d/announce) Frequently Asked Questions
and
 100833 Mar 22 07:30 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq33.zip
 tsfaq33.zip  Questions from UseNet and Timo's answers

>      -- Darryl Okahata
>       darrylo@sr.hp.com
>
> P.S. -- Keep up the good work!

Thank you.  Appreciated.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu  Mon Mar 22 21:44:36 1993
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 13:43:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Robert Kastigar <urkastig@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Subject: Best wishes
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Message-Id: <Pine.3.05.9303221319.A6144-b100000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Status: RO

Per your very clear instructions, I have upload a program to
garbo!  Thank you for the opportunity to 'put' instead of 'get'
for a change.

On another matter, some time ago there was an exchange in
the newsgroup involving you and some ding-a-ling detractor.  Let
me compliment you on how gracefully you handled the situation,
which appeared to me to be the stupidest thing I've seen in a
long time.

I often thought about writing, but figured the net was probably
already overburdened with this drivel, so I would stay out of it.
Now that it seems to have exhausted itself, and I'm uploading a
file anyway, let me offer you my sincere appreciation for all
that you have written on the net, and encourage you to continue
to do so.

I received an account only a few months ago, and have been
struggling to learn UNIX, the system, and everything else!  It is
indeed a struggle for a newcomer.  Soon, names started to become
familiar - yours being one of them.  I started to read some of what
you wrote - but understood little of it.  Soon I found myself
enjoying your writing.  Even if I didn't know what you were talking
about, I thought I would perhaps learn something anyway.

Today, I still don't understand very much.  However, it's slightly
more than before, but not much.  What little understanding I've
gotten, however, is due in large part to your writings, and to
your advice to others.

By all means, let me encourage you to continue.  My ignorance
may linger, but at least I've got a better chance with people like
you and your postings in the various newsgroups.

Please don't bother to respond to this.  I'm quite sure your mailbox
must be stuffed with notes of encouragement from others around the
world with thoughts similar to mine.  If you respond to each one,
you won't have much time left to make public postings which are
much for valuable to all of us.

Thank you again, Timo, for all you have done.



From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Mar 23 07:45:50 1993
Subject: Re: Getting zip to act like compress
To: djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu (David Weisberger)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 07:45:50 +0200 (EET)
Cc: hh@uwasa.fi (Hannu Hirvonen)
In-Reply-To: <199303230506.AA24619@amhux3.amherst.edu> from "David Weisberger" at Mar 23, 93 00:06:07 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO


> Timo,

Hi David,

> Thank you for the script.  It seems to work, no problems with it yet.
> But I did figure out how to do what I wanted with 'find -exec zip' ,
> and gzip yields even smaller files.

Just for the sake of interest, I updated just a bit this morning:

 1212 Mar 23 06:37 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/ts/zipper
 zipper A script to use zip as a compress replacement

 1106 Mar 23 06:31 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/ts/unzipper
 unzipper A script to use unzip as an uncompress replacement

> Thanks again,
>   David
>
> P.S.  A couple of years on the Net, and I've finally corresponded with
> Timo Salmi.

That is a very nice thing to say.  Thank you.  The pleasure is mine.

   All the best, Timo

> --
> David Weisberger   | Q: Mr. President, do you care to say any more about the
>                    |    operational details of the airlift?
> djweisbe           | THE PRESIDENT:  No.
> @unix.amherst.edu  | Q: How about explaining to the American people why it's
>                    |    an important issue for the United States to undertake?
>                    | THE PRESIDENT:  What?

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


-From: djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu (David Weisberger)
-Subject: Re: Getting zip to act like compress
-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 05:26:25 GMT

I (djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
: I am using UNIX, with the lates version of zip, and find and such
: available.  How can I get zip to stick each file in a directory into
: its own zip file, like 'compress *' work?
:

I did figure out finally how to use 'find' to do what I wanted, but
I'm not quite happy with how it works and would mainly like to thank
the people who followed up:

* Timo's 'zipper' script seems to work just fine.
* gzip is set up to do just what I want, and compresses even smaller
than 'zip -9'.

The advantage of the two above methods is that they skip already
compressed files.  As opposed to my simple solution, which I
include just for the record:

find -exec zip -9 '{}.zip' {} \;

Originally I couldn't figure out what to quote or escape.

So there it is.

Thanks,
 David

--
David Weisberger   | Q: Mr. President, do you care to say any more about the
                   |    operational details of the airlift?
djweisbe           | THE PRESIDENT:  No.
@unix.amherst.edu  | Q: How about explaining to the American people why it's
                   |    an important issue for the United States to undertake?
                   | THE PRESIDENT:  What?


From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Mar 27 08:30:41 1993
Subject: Re: Plea for help!
To: dreimer@mach1.wlu.ca (david reimer f)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 08:30:41 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9303261704.AA19004@mach1.wlu.ca> from "david reimer f" at Mar 26, 93 12:04:44 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Greetings, Timo:

Hello David,

> I'm sorry to bother you with this; you have been kind enough to help
> before, and so I turn to you again.
>
> I put a question on cam.d about where software reviews were stored. I
> have tried all the techniques I know to find what I'm looking for, and
> think this is something that you keep a hand in. The thing I'm
> searching for is the set of fairly detailed reviews of shareware
> spellcheckers that came out on the net in the past year or so. (I
> think the author was based in Oxford, and he included reviews of your
> utility as well.) If you can point me to where I might find the reviews,
> or the address of the reviewer, I would once again be in your debt.

Yes I think I know what you are looking for:
 32169 Jan 9 12:41 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/review11.zip
 review11.zip Users' program reviews from cbip.archives

I only wish that the gentle users would resume writing these
reviews, since as you see from the file date, the going has been
sluggish in CAM.d in this respect.

> Our thaw from several winter storms has finally begun. I hope you are
> already enjoying spring!

Not quite yet, but we soon will.

> Many thanks,

Glad that for I probably could help in a matter of this nature.  Let
me also commend you for your thoughfulness in first taking the
ordinary steps in the search before asking me to locate material.

   All the best, Timo

> David.
> --
> David J. Reimer, Religion & Culture                  Fax: (519) 886-9351
> Wilfrid Laurier University                   Phone: (519) 884-1970 x2680
> Waterloo, ON, Canada N2L 3C5              Internet: dreimer@mach1.wlu.ca

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Mar 28 10:04:20 1993
Subject: An example of network harassment
To: null2@uwasa.fi (FTP Site Moderators)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 10:04:20 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:31 Garbo_is_a_piece_of_garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:23 Peter_Van_Epp_rules_SFU!!!!_and fucks_TIMO!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:32 TIMO_SHOULD_NOT_APPEAR_ON_C.A.M.D!!!_FUCK HIM!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:22 Timo_is_GAY!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:31 Timo_loves_to_make_love_with_Keith!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:32 Victor_rules!!!/
>drwxr-xr-x  512 Mar 28 05:22 fuck_you_Timo!!!!!!!!/

This is an elucidating example from the 28th of March about the
quality of the "culture" on the network.

As the Vaasa University program library ("Garbo") maintainer and as
the chairman of the Board of the Vaasa University Computer Centre I
have grown quite used to being abused, just like I am used to my
democratically given local and netnews position being challenged.
What is above, is a current example of a hate campaign every person
may have to face, who is prominently active on the network news and / or
is in a position of administrative authority.  This obviously is an
unavoidable consequence of the global nature of the news network and
the readiness for anonymous harassment of known netnews
personalities or individuals otherwise put in a position of
authority.  A very common feature of the network is that there
always seem to be users who consider themselves above the mutually
and democratically accepted rules.  Over the years I have come to
note that often (but not quite always) the abuse comes in a form
requiring at least some special technical skills.  In the USA (don't
generalize, don't read anything extra in this!) it sometimes has
been observed by my oversees colleagues that the CS (computer
science) students there are particularly prone to these antics.

Altogether all this is an interesting, new social phenomenon,
because historically there is no actual precedent to such everyman's
instant access to global communication as is experienced today.  Oh
yes, one has been "technically" able to send hate letters or even
excrement parcels to unpopular authority figures by the
oldfashioned, ordinary mail.  But compared to electronic abuse it is
very, very uncommon because it takes so much more effort and
preparation, and because of the time and feedback lag.  It is very
interesting to observe how the new electronic media and the almost
instant network communication create subcultures of its own.  It is
obvious that one form it takes is a new wave of defiance against
anything seen as authority, because it is so easy to do.  The means
are there and the threshold for it has become extremely low!

Also an interesting sideline, if you come to think about it, is that
propagating computer viruses is a kind of a format of the same
disturbed behavior, although they are directed at the fellow
computer users at large, not against single individuals.  The
underlying motivations and the pattern of special skills required
just might remotely have something in common with the phenomenon of
anonymous network harassment.

If I were less experienced in network and administrative affairs, I
probably would be personally aggravated by these attacks.
Fortunately, I have available both the experience and the technical
skills to make these harassment tactics uneffective.  It really is
not worth bothering to try to influence me by these kinds of
campaigns.  They make no difference, and most certainly achieve
nothing.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 17:26:29 -0800
-From: mcafee@netcom.com (McAfee Associates)
-To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
-Subject: Re: An example of net harassment

Timo,

You will know when you're REALLY famous when they'll start writing
viruses with your name in them! :-)

Regards,

Aryeh
(It hasn't happened to me yet, but there are at least a dozen with messages
to John McAfee in them)

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From w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil  Sun Mar 28 10:06:52 1993
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 02:06:46 -0500 (EST)
To: fpiwarsk@europa.union.indiana.edu (Frank Piwarski)
Cc: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: old msdos-announce
In-Reply-To: <9303280743.AA04322@europa.> from "Frank Piwarski" at Mar 28, 93 01:43:35 am
From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR)
Status: RO

Frank Piwarski wrote:
> I wish to build a database of all old msdos-announce articles.  I need
> the short descriptive text the authors and reviewers (like yourself)
> publish.

Old MSDOS-Ann articles are like "yesterday's newspaper".  They rapidly
become obsolete as new versions of programs are uploaded.  Some of the
files announced as uploaded are no longer available for various reasons
such as withdrawal by the author, bugs, or new versions which have
different names than the originals because the author renamed the entire
package.  For these reasons there is no official archive of back issues.
I do keep some of the announcements for my own reference, however.

Most of the announcements are based on the first part of the doc file in
each package, so you could get the information you seek in that manner.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce and the MSDOS-Ann mailing list
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND



From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Mar 30 14:01:38 1993
Subject: Re: Are Windows uploads accepted?
To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1993 14:01:38 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
In-Reply-To: <350@chrism.demon.co.uk> from "Chris Marriott" at Mar 30, 93 09:33:33 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Dear Timo,
>
> At the start of February I uploaded to Garbo my Windows astronomy program
> "SkyMap".  The files were called "SKYMAP11.ZIP" and "SKYMAP1D.ZIP".
> Nearly two months have passed, and I notice that the files have still not
> appeared on Garbo.
>
> Can you tell me, please, whether you accept Windows uploads, or should I
> stick to "CICA" and "SIMTEL20" only?  The reason I uploaded the files to
> Garbo was to make the files available in Europe.  As a fellow european I
> am very conscious of the importance of minimizing trans-atlantic Internet
> traffic!
>
> I look forward to hearing from you,
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Chris Marriott                          | chris@chrism.demon.co.uk |
> |                                         | BIX: cmarriott           |
> | Save the whales. Collect the whole set. | Compuserve: 100113,1140  |
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Chris,

Yes, Windows uploads are accepted, but I have nothing whatsoever to
do with them.  They are taken care of by Harri Valkama hv@uwasa.fi.
However, his queue is currently extremely long.  At worst it has
been over three months.

I, too, am having problems with dealing the part of the MsDos
traffic I handle.  For example for about one week I have hardly had
time to see to any uploads.  Among other things, my time has been
heavily occupied with an administrative emergency at the our
computer centre.  I'll try to find some time today, but the workload
situation at Garbo is looking bleak, I am afraid that there is
nothing any helpful person outside our own university could do in
this matter.

On top of this, I'll be on vacation and electronically unreachable
(what a relief :-) for at least a week starting the 3th of April.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Apr  1 22:27:23 1993
Subject: Re: ZIP 2.x files and Garbo
To: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 22:27:23 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: PECKHAM@alexandria-emh2.army.mil
In-Reply-To: <9304010040.16180.w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil> from "Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR" at Apr 1, 93 00:40:06 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> PECKHAM@alexandria-emh2.army.mil (Don Peckham) wrote:
> > Do you happen to recall Timo Salmi's 11 Mar 92, Subj: Accepting the 2.04g .zip
> > compatable..., in MSDOSANN, #93-45 ?  Effect: all NEW files accepted by Garbo
> > (a/o 11 Mar 93) MUST be in PKZIP 2.04g-format.
>
> Don, Timo said he would accept PKZIP 2.04g format uploads effective 11
> Mar 93.  I don't think he intended to say it was *required*.  He did say
> that he would probably convert non-2.x format files to 2.x format.

That is correct.  The format is now accepted at Garbo, not required.
I have converted some our central information files to the new
format, but I have no plans to convert the bulk of the material
available at Garbo.  I just expect the conversion to take please by
itself as new versions of the packages gradually become available.

> > NOTE:  Because of this, files originating at/transfered from Garbo CANNOT be
> > unarchived by UNZ50P1 -- I THINK (though, to be frank, I haven't tried it).
>
> Don't get upset over nothing.  UNZ50P1 will handle PKZIP 2.04g format files.

Seconded.

> Keith Petersen
> Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
> Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
> Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Apr  2 11:26:48 1993
Subject: Re: SCROLLit Scrollback buffer
To: 71054.3051@CompuServe.COM (charles aitkens)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 11:26:48 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <930402022536_71054.3051_CHJ35-1@CompuServe.COM> from "charles aitkens" at Apr 1, 93 09:25:37 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>Timo

Hello Charles,

>I recently came across an interesting file with your '25 most useful
>MsDos PD & Shareware utility programs', dated 20-Feb-93.
>
>Although I am certainly biased, I'd like to suggest that my shareware
>program, SCROLLit, usually archived as SCRLIT.ZIP or SCRLIT16.ZIP (for
>the latest version 1.6), is a better screen scrollback utility than
>Buffit. Here are a few of the differences.
>
>    Buffit only captures DOS scrolling, whereas SCROLLit captures both
>    DOS and BIOS scrolling. Most communications software, for example,
>    uses the BIOS to scroll the screen rather than the slower DOS
>    functions. I use SCROLLit to provide a better scrollback than what
>    is built into Telix. Buffit cannot capture Telix scrolling.
>
>    SCROLLit captures color attributes.
>
>    SCROLLit takes 9k of conventional memory and stores the scrollback
>    buffer in EMS, XMS or conventional memory, while Buffit can only
>    store the buffer in valuable conventional memory. Both programs can
>    be loaded into upper memory.
>
>    SCROLLit further reduces memory requirements with a fast compression
>    technique that more than doubles the number of lines of scrollback
>    that can be saved in the available buffer space.
>
>    Buffit's scrollback buffer is limited to a maximum of 500 lines,
>    while SCROLLit's buffer size is limited only by the amount of
>    EMS/XMS memory.
>
>    SCROLLit adds searching (both forward and backward), block-writing
>    (send a block of lines to a file or to the printer) and DesqView
>    support.
>
>SCROLLit has been available in the Simtel archives for a few months now,
>and I have already received registrations and positive feedback from
>Internet users around the world. I would appreciate it if you would take
>a look at SCROLLit. I think you will like it ... perhaps enough to
>mention it in the next edition of your useful 'best of' report.

   I'll tell you what.  I'll be pleased to include your report and
this in garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post15.txt feedback file (hence the
long quoting).
   Both are fine products, and my point is more having this type of
a program than making a judgement between the two.  Besides, by the
nature of this list, one cannot quite make submissions to it.

>Thanks
>
>Charles Aitkens
>Bromfield Software Products

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Apr  2 19:38:20 1993
Subject: Re: What happens to Garbo uploads?
To: rgardner@charon.MIT.EDU (Richard Gardner)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 19:38:20 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen), hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

Hi Richard,

>Thanks for the clarifying instructions about uploading
>to your site.  I will be sending Harri Valkama a Cc:
>when corresponding with you.

Good!  Thanks.

>My next question is, what happens next (to my software)?

Most uploads languish in our standard queue until my fellow modertor
Harri Valkama has had the time to process them.  The queue is very
long at the moment, so please be patient.

>Does it go to simtel20 and a number of other mirror
>sites?  Is some kind of announcement made about it?

It goes to SIMTEL20 only if you upload it there yourself.  Please
contact w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen) for the SIMTEL20
uploading instructions.

As for the mirror sites, that happens automatically.  But mind you.
SIMTEL20 is not a mirror site, but the largest independent MsDos FTP
site around.  (Garbo specializes much more).  You can see the list
of mirrors if you take a look at garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder22.zip.

As for the upload announcements.  That depends.  Lately, Harri has
been too overloaded to post any announcements.  I have, but I handle
a very narrow selection of uploads I pick myself from the queue.
(One cannot choose between the Garbo moderators).

>And, have you actually seen it an tried it on your PC?

With the number of uploads coming to Garbo, and with huge amount of
email that I get, I am afraid that I have no way of knowing which
particular program this question might concern.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Apr 11 09:47:40 1993
Subject: Re: garboidx.zip
To: evans@ihlpm.att.com (Daniel L Evans +1 708 979 7637)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 09:47:40 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <9304051554.AA23038@uwasa.fi> from "Daniel L Evans +1 708 979 7637" at Apr 5, 93 10:48:00 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Timo,
>
> Saw the announcement for garboidx.zip but I didn't see if you were going to
> offer a garbo.idx file anytime soon.  I use the ftp e-mail servers so
> trying to grab all your index files would a pain at best.
>
> Dan

Hi Dan,

No, I am afraid I do not intend to offer a garbo.idx file.  All the
extra processing will have to be done at the users' end.  I really
cannot assume a single bit of additional Garbo workload.  Sorry.
Your best bet still will thus be to use
 77145 Apr 11 08:44 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEX.ZIP
 INDEX.ZIP    The list of garbo.uwasa.fi MsDos files zipped
and scripts like
 3498 Mar 17 13:08 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/ts/gfind
 gfind A convenient script for Garbo index searches

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Apr 12 22:42:33 1993
Subject: Re: MODER22.ZIP and other problems
To: sillarsi@logica.co.uk (Iain Sillars)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 22:42:33 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <0096AAA4.AFF92E60.28990@logica.co.uk> from "Iain Sillars" at Apr 7, 93 08:11:19 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> 1     I have used you PESTIKID program successfully, but when I tried
> PESTIKID 000 /C
> the computer would not release without being switched off.  I suggest a test
> to reject this in a future edition.

Thanks Iain!  Now consequently:
 73533 Apr 12 15:16 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutle22.zip

> 2     I used your DIRINFO program on a machine with a 32 MByte partition on
> a 130 MBYte hard card.  The program seemed to enter a loop from which it could
> not escape.  I had to Ctrl-Alt-Del it.  Any suggestions?

There is little I can do, since I have no way of duplicating the
problem.

> 3     I have down loaded the MODER22.ZIP file, but cannot unpack it with
>  Vn 1.1 of PKUNZIP.  The utility FV gives the results as shown below.

Wrong version of PKUNZIP.

 40062 Jan 18 11:06 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/unz50p1.exe
 unz50p1.exe  Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (pkzip 2.04 compatible)

 114486 Aug 28 1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/zip19p1x.zip
 zip19p1x.zip Info-ZIP's free MsDos zipper (pkzip 2.04 compatible)

 202574 Feb 1 02:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe
 pkz204g.exe  PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip

 299288 Jan 15 08:42 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/unz50p1.tar.Z
 unz50p1.tar.Z Info-ZIP's portable unzipper (Unix,VMS,..), 2.04 compatible

 244565 Nov 23 11:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/arcers/zip19p1.tar.Z
 zip19p1.tar.Z Info-ZIP's portable zipper (Unix,VMS,..), 2.04 compatible

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Apr 13 06:57:55 1993
Subject: Re: How to adavance the date?
To: cwbaron@well.sf.ca.us (Carl Baron)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 06:57:55 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <199304090341.AA19280@well.sf.ca.us> from "Carl Baron" at Apr 8, 93 08:41:42 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> GREETINGS, Prof. Salmi-

Hello Carl,

> I downloaded your wonderful collection of batch files for MSDOS and have
> found them quite useful. Thank you so much.

I am pleased to hear that you like
 100713 Mar 2 06:58 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsbat42.zip
 tsbat42.zip  A collection of useful batch files and tricks.

> There is a problem which I have been trying long to surmount, perhaps you
> might have some suggestion. The challenge involves updating a laptop's date
> (which is always used in RESUME mode, which does not update), to advance the
> system date each day incrementally by running the batch file daily.
>
> --Could your DAILY.BAT possibly be modified to do this?

I do not think so.  Rather this task requires a small program.

> I would be grateful for any help at all.

It is a good idea.  I'll see if I can write such a program in the
near future and then add it to my TSUTLF collection.  If and when I
do, I'll announce it in comp.archives.msdos.announce.

> Sincere thanks.
>
> Carl Baron
> cwbaron@well.sf.ca.us

   All the best, Timo

Epilogue: I wrote ADVDATE.EXE "Advance system clock's date" which is
available in
 37168 Apr 16 06:36 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutlf12.zip
 tsutlf12.zip Timo's 6th utility set (advdate, strings, strmemo)

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From David_Conrad@MTS.cc.Wayne.edu  Sun Apr 18 12:38:55 1993
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 05:38:44 EDT
From: David_Conrad@MTS.cc.Wayne.edu
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Message-Id: <632510@MTS.cc.Wayne.edu>
Subject: Useful batch files, deleting with MDEL and VDEL
Status: RO

Timo,

      After trying many times to delete multiple files by DEL fil1 fil2
and getting the "too many parameters" error message, I wrote the following
short batch files.  Simple but handy, and you may feel free to include them
in or adapt them for your collection of batch utilities.

      MDEL is Multiple DELete (think of mget) and VDEL is Verify DELete.
They invoke DEL or DEL /P to get the work done.  (If you know of a way to
make both into one batch, I would love to hear about it.  Something that
would allow 'MDEL file1 /p file2' and prompt for confirmation of all files.
But this requires examining all the parameters twice.)

-=-=- MDEL.BAT -=-=-
@echo off
if "%1" == "/?" goto help
:loop
if "%1" == "" goto end
del %1
shift
goto loop
:help
echo Deletes one or more sets of files.
echo.
echo MDEL files1 files2 files3 ...
echo.
echo   Accepts wildcards (*?) in the specification of the files to be
echo   deleted.  Does NOT prompt before deleting -- use VDEL if
echo   confirmation is desired.  See also DEL, VDEL.
:end
echo.
-=-=- MDEL.BAT -=-=-

-=-=- VDEL.BAT -=-=-
@echo off
if "%1" == "/?" goto help
:loop
if "%1" == "" goto end
del %1 /p
shift
goto loop
:help
echo Deletes one or more sets of files with confirmation.
echo.
echo VDEL files1 files2 files3 ...
echo.
echo   Accepts wildcards (*?) in the specification of the files to be
echo   deleted.  Prompts before deleting like DEL /P -- use MDEL if
echo   confirmation is not desired.  See also DEL, MDEL.
:end
echo.
-=-=- VDEL.BAT -=-=-

Regards,
David R. Conrad
David_Conrad@mts.cc.wayne.edu


Here is Timo's reply to Dave:

I'll be pleased to include this material into /pc/pd2/post15.zip.

Incidentally have you noted M.BAT in tsbat42.zip.  It allows
commands like
 M del *.zip - del *.txt
Not quite the same as yours, but very much in common in
functionality.

Another nearby program.  Have you seen TDEL.EXE in
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsutle22.zip.  It has exactly the feature I
think you are looking for.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From hh@macavity.uwasa.fi  Mon Apr 19 11:46:15 1993
From: hh@macavity.uwasa.fi (Hannu Hirvonen)
Message-Id: <9304190846.AA01833@macavity.uwasa.fi>
Subject: Re: ftp statistics for node garbo
To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 11:46:14 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com, hh@uwasa.fi, hv@uwasa.fi
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO


> > We are using wu-ftpd-2.0 which produces a nice log of activity.  Are
> > your scripts available that give this type of report?  We are looking
> > for a way to provide this type of information.  Many thanks.

onee version of our script (such as it is), is available from garbo as
unix/networking/ftpd/ftpd-5.tar.Z (see the file README.uwasa in the
tar-file). the script is just a bunch of short awk-programs that scan
the syslog-file where only the ftp-daemons send their log-info.

--
    hh@uwasa.fi  --  Hannu Hirvonen, Computer Centre, U of Vaasa
    "Yo Mama -- core dumped" (The household robot)



From hcbarth@afterlife.ncsc.mil  Mon Apr 19 09:07:26 1993
From: hcbarth@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bart Bartholomew)
Subject: FTP-ing files & typeahead
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 02:07:22 EDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

Timo, a minor note you may wish to share about ftp-ing files:
FTP has a typeahead buffer (at least on Suns) that will store
commands until needed.  In particular, you can give the bye/quit
command while downloading a file.  When the d/l completes, the
connection is released right away, allowing others to get in.
This should save some network time also.
        BartB



From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Apr 26 22:40:51 1993
Subject: Re: Including TP drivers in the .exe
To: VO@sb.vse.cs (Ivo Sir)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 22:40:51 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930426100630.480@sb.vse.cs> from "Ivo" at Apr 26, 93 10:06:30 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Dear Timo,
> I have found Your pack of software called TSDEMO15.ZIP on some local
> Public Domain Server here at our school. It looks really very very
> good, getting out of a standard borders, which have every programmes
> written in Turbo Pascal ;-). I would like to ask You about how to do
> some things in TP. I didn't find a solving of these problems enywhere
> (maybe I was seeking bad). If You have a few seconds, tell me, please,
> how do You join a graphics driver (and character set) into a final
> EXE file ? You are the first man that i have seen, which is able to
> use this fint in reality.
> Thank You.
> Goodbye, live in peace.
> I.S.
>
>
>                                          =============================
>                                          Ivo Sir      e-mail:VO@VSE.CS
>                                             University of Economy
>                                             W.Churchilla 4. Prague
>                                                 Czech Republic
>                                          =============================
>

Hello Ivo,

The inclusion of the drivers to a Turbo Pascal .exe is explained
step by step in
 100833 Mar 22 07:30 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq33.zip
 tsfaq33.zip  Questions from UseNet and Timo's answers, 22-Mar-92.

This is a recurring question, so I'll post a copy of this reply to
comp.lang.pascal and also make this available in my feedback file
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post15.zip.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Apr 28 22:46:49 EET DST 1993
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Garbo MsDos backlog
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 19:44:29 GMT
Status: RO

Dear Valued Uploaders and Garbo Users,

After some thinking, please let me lay the situation rather bluntly
on the line.  The score is this.  We have two moderators at Garbo,
Harri Valkama and yours truly.  My self-imposed lot is to decide on
Garbo policies and take care of select MsDos uploads, that is
uploads that happen to interest me personally.  I am also taking
care of Garbo publicity.

Harri has assiduously been doing all the rest.  But he has been
overworked and overbooked for almost half a year now in this
respect.  At the same time we have become more and more of a general
repository directly against my own strategy instead of a more
specialized one.  (I don't complain, but here we are now).  My
feeling is that without any additional manpower, this situation is
finally becoming at a dead end.  We have to find new local
arrangements and we will also have to start taking the Garbo
specialization even more seriously.

At the present rate and range of uploads there is no way out.  What
will happen is that the backlog situation will worsen, and only
those MsDos uploads which happen to interest me personally will
regularly make it to Garbo.  For most of the rest, the efforts of
the uploaders may well go more or less wasted.

Thus (perhaps with the exception of updates of already available
programs) I cannot at the moment give any guarantees whatsoever that
the following type of Garbo uploads to /pc/incoming will become
available or even looked at:

 - Files that require special equipment like soundboard, midi,
   coprocessor, 386+, beyond VGA, etc
 - Heavily nagging or crippled material
 - Demos
 - Other than .zip files (a change in the earlier policy!)
 - BBS related programs
 - Lan related programs
 - Protected mode programs
 - 4dos & other "non-command.com" programs
 - Desqview utilities
 - In general, overly complicated programs

Also recall Timo's 10 minute rule: "If an experienced user who is
not familiar with the particular program is still practically stuck
after the first ten minutes, the user interface of a PD or a
shareware program is unacceptable, however good and useful the
application may otherwise be".

Well, then, what are my own foremost interests?  Material going to
the following directories:

pd2 :           Reviews, information etc on files and garbo
ts :            Programs by Prof. Timo Salmi
filelist :      File lists and statistics

turbopas :      Turbo Pascal programming language
arcers :        MsDos archiving (compression) programs
arcutil :       Utilities for archiving programs
execomp :       Executable (.exe and .com) compression utilities
educgames :     Educational games

Of course there are other categories that also interest me like

dirutil :       Directory maintenance related utilities
diskcopy :      Utilities for copying entire disks
diskutil :      Disk maintenance related utilities
filecopy :      File copying utilities
filefind :      Finding files
fileutil :      File maintenance and handling related utilities
sysinfo :       PC system information utilities
sysutil :       MsDos system related utilities

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



-From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
-Subject: Re: Garbo MsDos backlog
-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1993 05:28:59 GMT

While we are on the subject please bear with me and let me inform
you of more new Garbo practices (again limitations, I am afraid).

Some gentle uploaders upload a description to /pc/incoming rather
than send their MsDos upload announcements by email as per
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/UPLOAD.INF.  This practice is not on, because it
is more cumbersome for us.  Our methods are geared to a certain
routines and with the current workload any deviations from them will
just lead to a certainty of bypassing the kind user's upload.

Another similar point is that we can't take the time with uploads
with no accompanying (emailed!) announcement.  We don't have the
time to start from scratch to find out what an upload is about, if
we are not told about it.

A third point (which I already made, but wish to repeat).  Until now
we have also accepted non-zip uploads.  We have changed our policy.
Only zippped contributions will be accepted (with the natural
exception of self-extracting archivers).  This is again because our
routines are best geared to .zipped files.

I hope that you understand that we can't help this and have to be
increasingly "callous" in respects like this.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From roysan@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk  Thu Apr 29 12:28:48 1993
From: roysan@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk (Roy Coates)
Message-Id: <22378.9304290925@uxb.liv.ac.uk>
Subject: Puns et al
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 10:25:41 BST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: RO


Dear Timo,
         I just downloaded your puns file /pc/ts/tspun12.zip -
thanks for that, I needed a good chuckle!! It's nice to see a
professor who still has a sense of humour.

How about:-  If I hold a Unix shell to my ear - will I hear the 'C' ??


Long live Turbo Pascal, and a short life to object orientated nonsense.

Roy.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Roy Coates
    Dept of Mech Eng.                 Phone: 051-794-4862
    Liverpool University                Fax: 051-794-4848
    P.O. Box 147
    Liverpool L69 3BX                E-Mail: roysan@liverpool.ac.uk
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From ts@uwasa.fi Wed May 12 06:41:58 1993
Subject: Re: TS-units for protected mode.
To: roma@mark.udmurtia.su (Roma Dimov)
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 06:41:58 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <AAgyqxhGs4@mark.udmurtia.su> from "Roma Dimov" at May 11, 93 12:00:58 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Thanks, i know about ftp, but where can i find Your utils in *.tpp
>files for protected mode ?
>
>
>
> --
>       Roma Dimov
>                               MARK, Ltd.
>  phones: +7-3412-250149, 250040, 250057, 258413   fax: 250157 FIDO: 2:5050/3

Hello Roma,

I am afraid you can't.  I do not support the protected mode, not at
least yet, and I have no plans for it at the moment.  So all I have
at the moment, if you mean my Turbo Pascal units, are

 103975 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3240.zip
 106464 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3250.zip
 108465 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3255.zip
 108634 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3260.zip
 109097 Feb 24 23:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspa3270.zip
 tspa3240.zip Turbo Pascal 4.0 units for (real:-) programmers.
 tspa3250.zip Turbo Pascal 5.0 units for (real:-) programmers.
 tspa3255.zip Turbo Pascal 5.5 units for (real:-) programmers.
 tspa3260.zip Turbo Pascal 6.0 units for (real:-) programmers.
 tspa3270.zip Turbo Pascal 7.0 real mode units for (real:-) programmers.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; FI-65101, Finland


From @leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de:guckes@medusa.math.fu-berlin.de  Tue May 18 02:02:10 1993
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 01:02 MET DST
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: Re: Kibo's Summer Bandwidth Shrink?
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: Sven Guckes <guckes@math.fu-berlin.de>
X-Mail-Reader: Elm 2.4 PL21
X-News-Reader: NN 6.4.13 #13
Status: RO

In news.newusers.questions you write:

>In article <C6xHtM.H3A@aaahq05.aaa.com> alton@aaahq05.aaa.com writes:
>>In article 16791@pinus.slu.se, erikm@pinus.slu.se (Erik Magnet) writes:
>>->
>>->Come on! Tell me! Who is this Kibo guy?
>>->
>>
>>Erik, I thought everybody knew by now: Kibo is the eldest son of Santa Claus.
>
>My apologies.  I just can't resist it.
>
>Come on! Tell me! Who is this Santa Claus guy?  :-)
>
>   All the best, Timo
>
>..................................................................
>Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
>Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi  anonymous  FTP archives 128.214.87.1
>Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
>Internet: ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet: salmi@finfun  ; FI-65101,   Finland

Definitely a collector's item!

All the best
Sven :)



From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 18 06:39:23 1993
Subject: Re: Writing program evaluations
To: egoforth@cs.wm.edu (Edward R. Goforth)
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 06:39:23 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <9305172338.AA02853@cs.wm.edu> from "Edward R. Goforth" at May 17, 93 07:38:02 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>In article <1993May17.212730.11323@uwasa.fi> you write:
>>To come back to an old subject.  The gentle users would be very
>>welcome to do program evaluations and reviews of the announced
>>programs!  We once got an auspicious start, but it withered.  Could
>>we have better luck now that we are much more established?
>>
>>   All the best, Timo
>>
>>..................................................................
>>Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
>>Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
>>Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
>>Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland

>Prof. Salmi,

Hello Ed,

>As I am a user of many of the announced programs, I would be
>more than glad to participate in such an undertaking.  In fact,
>the majority of my usage of software is merely to evaluate, to
>determine if it meets my needs any better than what I currently
>have.  Are you proposing that such evaluations and reviews be
>posted here to comp.archives.msdos.d or were you interested in
>collecting them?

I am proposing posting directly to comp.archives.msdos.d without any
handling by me.  If an items seems general and interesting enough
I'll capture the posting and put it in
 32169 Jan 9 12:41 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/review11.zip
 review11.zip Users' program reviews from cbip.archives
But the only way one can "submit" to this collection is to post
the program reviews.

>I also want to take the opportunity to thank you for your
>seemingly tireless efforts.  There has been more than one
>time where you addressed questions that I had in your responding
>to posts on one of the newsgroups.

Thank you.  Appreciated.

BTW, since other users might have the same question, I'll also post
this.

>Sincerely,
>
>Ed...

   All the best, Timo

>Edward R. Goforth - egoforth@cs.wm.edu
>Graduate Student
>Department of Computer Science
>The College of William and Mary
>Williamsburg, Virginia, U.S.A.

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Wed May 19 06:52:32 1993
Subject: Re: Garbo background
To: apark@cs.tufts.edu (Andrew B. Park)
Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 06:52:32 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <9305190101.AA27847@apex.cs.tufts.edu> from "Andrew B. Park" at May 18, 93 09:01:56 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Timo,,

Hello Andrew,

> My name is Andrew Park, and I am a junior at Tufts University.  I was
> wondering if you could answer a couple of questions on your ftp services
> at the University of Vaasa.
>
> In trying to get acquainted with all of the services that the Internet
> has to offer, I stumbled upon your University's anonymous ftp service.
> Why do you offer such a service?  Don't get me wrong, I find your MS-DOS
> archives a great help... But how are you being funded?  Why and how did
> you get such an immense collection of software?  Are you in some way
> affliated with SIMTEL-20?  What is the situation with SIMTEL (i.e. how
> are they being funded and why?)

These are good, and familiar questions.  Please let me refer you to
two files

 5589 Aug 18 1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/garbohis.zip
 garbohis.zip A popularized history of Garbo archives by Timo Salmi

 12004 Mar 21 19:23 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post00.zip
 post00.zip   Index for Information email & postings

The former is self-exlanatory.  The latter is the subject index for
/pc/pd2/post01.zip - post14.zip (post15.zip is being built up,
available, but not in the index yet).

> Just curious,

The question was welcome.  Since it is fairly common, I'll also
store this to post15.zip and post an edited version of my reply.

A general note.  It is ok with me to ask and discuss Garbo policies
to a reasonable degree because I am in the fortunate postition to be
involved in making them since I hold a dual postition of a moderator
and the chairman of the board of our computer centre (among my many
administrative duties).  Please observe, however, Keith's wish
avoiding SIMTEL20 policy discussions, because the decision making
setup at SIMTEL20 is different from ours.

   All the best, Timo

> Andrew Park
> Tufts University, Medford MA, USA
> apark@cs.tufts.edu

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 25 07:24:26 1993
Subject: Re: ts2st22.zip Statistics: Multiple (OLS) regression analysis
To: kohzadi@ccu.UManitoba.CA
Date: Tue, 25 May 1993 07:24:26 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: sjp@uwasa.fi (Seppo Pynnonen)
In-Reply-To: <9305242218.AA19442@sturgeon.cc.umanitoba.ca> from "kohzadi@ccu.UManitoba.CA" at May 24, 93 05:18:27 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

>Dear prof. Salmi:
>
>May I ask whether the above programs have speciall features which
>packages such as Shazam do not have?

This relates to these two recently announced packages of mine.

 75132 May 20 11:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/ts2st22.zip
 ts2st22.zip  Statistics: Multiple (OLS) regression analysis.

 78571 May 20 11:37 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/ts5st15.zip
 ts5st15.zip  Least absolute deviation (LAD) multiple regression.

The major difference is that these programs have an interactive
interface and interactive help making using them very easy
especially for a beginner.  This is the main "attraction" of these
programs, which in other respects repeat what the other packages
certainly are able of doing, often much more extensively.  In other
respects, the former has nothing special in comparison to Shazam of
the other extensive, fully commercial packages.  Or perhaps one
should bring up that these packages are small in comparison, which
is a definite advantage in some cases where one does not want to use
up one's disk space, like in a class-room situation, etc.

But the latter (the LAD estimation program) is able to do the
estimation is some chronic cases where for example Shazam fails or
even crashes.  If you wish to discuss that aspect, you might wish
contact sjp@uwasa.fi (Seppo Pynnonen) with whom I am writing a small
paper on this.  I am the computer coding and linear programming (LP)
techniques party in this.  Seppo is the statistician.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu May 27 20:54:46 1993
Subject: Re: Need source code for TSUNTI
To: tspigp@rbkc.demon.co.uk (Ian Pleasance)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 20:54:46 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <455@rbkc.demon.co.uk> from "Ian Pleasance" at May 27, 93 12:08:21 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> Hi Timo,

Hello Ian,

> I am very interested in the .EXE "branding" techniques you use in
> your TSUNTI unit. I need to do this sort of thing, but using Microsoft
> Pascal instead of Turbo Pascal.

I am pleased to hear that you have found my garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/
tspa32*.zip Turbo Pascal units of interest.

> Would it be possible to get hold of the source code for that unit, as
> it would save me from having to re-invent the wheel.

No, I don't want to distribute my source code.  Besides it would be
less useful to you than you may think because interally my programs
are in Finnish, comments, variable and procedure names, and all.
But I can hopefully help you by giving a reference to a similar
code.  Please see Ohlsen, Chris & Gary Stoker, Turbo Pascal Advanced
Techniques, Que, 1989, p. 420.

> I will understand if you dont want to send out the source code.

I hope that the above reference covers your needs.

> Cheers,
>
> Ian

All the best, Timo

>
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
> ! Ian Pleasance, Systems Programmer,                                   !
> ! The Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea, (44) 71 937 5464 x2034    !
> ! tspigp@rbkc.demon.co.uk (Preferably) or rbkc@cix.compulink.co.uk     !
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Jun  2 07:26:00 1993
Subject: New Garbo personnel
To: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 07:26:00 +0300 (EET DST)
Cc: mt@uwasa.fi (Matti Taanonen), hh@uwasa.fi (Hannu Hirvonen),
        hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama), hs@uwasa.fi (Harry Seppala),
        ajh@uwasa.fi (Ari Hovila), te@uwasa.fi (Tuomas Eerola)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

Hello Keith,

We are going to have some personnel arrangements at Garbo taking
gradually place during the summer.  Harri Valkama is going to be on
a full time leave of absence starting from Septermber and we will
have to commence making some arrangements already now.  I would like
to introduce three persons to you.

Harry Seppala hs@uwasa.fi.  Garbo will be physically moved in due
time to Harry's office, and he will be the principal system manager.
He also may join in some MsDos and Windows moderation, but that part
is still somewhat open, and I'll have to discuss it with Harry.
Moving Garbo will also mean that its IP number will change.

Ari Hovila ajh@uwasa.fi.  Ari will be a co-system manager of Garbo.
He already manages Garbo's BBS system.  He will be managing our mail
server, take care the Windows department, and join me in moderating
MsDos.  He has my authority to post to comp.archives.msdos.announce.
Ari and I have worked together before, and we have even a common
program.  Ari is interested among other things in BBS material and C
programming, which opens new possibilities, since these have been
outside my own scope.

Tuomas Eerola te@uwasa.fi.  Tuomas will be taking care of our Mac
side and also he can system manage Garbo, if need be.  Also Tuomas
and I have worked together on programs, and one of my statistical
packages includes a program from Tuomas.

I will continue as before being responsible for deciding the Garbo
policies together with the head of our comptuter centre Matti
Taanonen mt@uwasa.fi.  I will naturally continue taking care of our
publicity.  I will also continue MsDos moderation, but hopefully
with reduced volumes if Ari and maybe Harri will carry part of that
load.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From chyde.uwasa.fi!ts Wed Jun  2 20:07:18 EET DST 1993
Article: 1469 of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.announce
Path: uwasa.fi!chyde.uwasa.fi!ts
From: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Monthly Garbo statistics discontinued
Message-ID: <ts9306021651.20281@chyde.uwasa.fi>
Followup-To: comp.archives.msdos.d
Sender: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 16:51:31 GMT
Approved: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi
Lines: 17
Status: RO

Wed 2-Jun-93: I am afraid I have to cease publishing the annotated
monthly Garbo download statistics. It was based on approximate
sampling at 20 minute intervals. The Garbo activities have become
about five-fold since the introduction of the counter script. The
script cannot keep up with this development any more. The results
are too much off the true figures to be of interest. Hence the
discontinuation.
   The weekly Gorbo download statistics will naturally continue. It
is based on the FTP log, and that is accurate.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Jun  8 08:02:30 1993
Subject: Re: Uploads to Garbo by Email ?
To: msdos-ann@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Combined SIMTEL20 & Garbo announcements)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 08:02:30 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

-Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 07:57:52 +0300 (EET DST)
-From: ts
-To: A potential Garbo uploader
-Cc: ajh@uwasa.fi (Ari Hovila), hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
-Subject: Re: Uploads to Garbo by Email ?

(.... is asking to whom submit an upload uuencoded by email)

> OK.  When I want to do an upload, I'll put in a notice in the upload
> description which tell you that it is an email upload, and that I'll
> await an upload address.
>
> Should I mail you the description directly, or should I use the respective
> addresses (pc-up@uwasa.fi and so forth...) ?

Hello ....,

Please send a description of your intended upload in advance to
pc-up@uwasa.fi clearly stating that you would like to upload this
and this program, and ask for an upload address for this intended
upload.  Then we'll decide among ourselves to whom you should upload
(provided that your package fits Garbo categories) and I'll inform
you about it.

After that you send the material uuencoded by email to the assigned
person (quite probably me, but we'll see).  At that stage you should
also send the same assigned Garbo moderator a new, separate upload
announcement for example in the format given in /pc/UPTEXT.INF.

This is how it goes when you wish to submit material uuencoded when
no FTP is available for you.

   All the best, Timo

PS  It is no secret who are currently on the pc-up@uwasa.fi mailing
list.  They are
  Harri Valkama
  Ari Hovila
  Timo Salmi

The alias is there so that the uploaders will not have to worry
about carbon copies any more, and so that we can flexibly make any
changes to the list locally.  (This is of general interest, so I'll
also be posting this reply).

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Jun  8 07:41:16 1993
Subject: Re: You, Timo Salmi
To: carlr@netcom.com (Carl Robinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 07:41:16 +0300 (EET DST)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.05.9306071912.A4116-8100000@netcom> from "Carl Robinson" at Jun 7, 93 07:39:12 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21]
Status: RO

> I downloaded your .GIFs.  Thought you'd be a little older.  :-{)
> I still think you must  have one of the best jobs on Earth.

Hi Carl,

Gee, that is nice.  At 47 I feel old enough, though.  As for my job,
yes I like it.  In fact even if maintaining the Garbo archives gets
much of my attention, what I like most about my job lies elsewhere.
My number one professional interest is guiding our doctoral students
in accounting and business finance in general, and in financial
statement analysis in particular.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating  at  garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet:  ts@uwasa.fi  Bitnet:  salmi@finfun; FI-65101,   Finland


