From ts@uwasa.fi  Sat Sep 5 7:00:00 1992
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: /pc/pd2/post13.txt file description
To: ts@uwasa.fi  (Timo Salmi)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 99 6:46:16 EET
Status: RO

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
! This file is in mail format, so you can also read it with any !
! suitable Unix mail program such as elm: (elm -f post13.txt).  !
! On a PC /pc/mail/rmail*.zip is a convenient alternative       !
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

   This is the thirteenth file that contains my replies and comments
that I or others have made by email, or just written here instead of
posting to (mainly to) comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives, or postings
that I wanted to retain for your information.
   Note that the latest post??.zip is always being updated until it
contains 30 messages.  The files are located at the /pc/pd2
directory.
   For an index of all the post*.zip files please see
/pc/pd2/tspost00.zip.

1   Dec 31 To Timo Salmi      (31)   /pc/pd2/post13.txt file description
2   Feb 15 To Senthil Ramas K (41)   Re: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d ?? Meanin
3   Feb 13 To Clotscher@coh.f (40)   Re: Errorlevel support in 'STRINGS.E
4   Feb 13 To Bill Maggio     (70)   Re: a batch programming question
5   Feb 12 Timo Salmi         (103)  About "(administrative)" postings (W
6   Feb 10 To An uploader     (31)   Re: Do you want these?
7   Feb 8  To bob angell      (58)   Re: Utility to send escape codes to
8   Feb 8  Timo Salmi         (91)   Re: Motivation behind Garbo/Simtel
9   Feb 7  To Frank Freese    (40)   Re: Resclock
10  Feb 7  To The Great One   (80)   Re: Utils collection F, TSUTLF10.ZIP
11  Feb 6  To BEEZER@CC.UTAH. (160)  Re: Why Garbo/Oakland don't match SI
12  Feb 6  Timo Salmi         (40)   Re: Keyboard buffer extenders
13  Feb 5  To Eric J. DeVolde (45)   Re: comments on TS5DOS11
14  Feb 5  To A Garbo User    (30)   Re: educational software
15  Feb 4  Ron McConnell      (31)   ruler.bat
16  Feb 4  To Lars Fosdal     (50)   Re: Mailservers for Simtel, wuarchiv
17  Feb 4  To Dave Kipfer u   (40)   Re: McAfee 9.12V100 CLEAN
18  Jan 29 To Eyal Lebedinsky (61)   Re: A file on Garbo with Finnish nam
19  Jan 28 To GRANT STEVENS   (25)   Re: Moderator's time
20  Jan 26 To Don Costello    (46)   Re: Where are you geographically
21  Jan 26 Harri Valkama      (34)   Re: SIMTEL directory disappearance
22  Jan 26 Timo Salmi         (59)   Garbo vs SIMTEL20 specializations
23  Jan 26 To Rod Gamble      (51)   Re: cd-rom info on garbo.uwasa.fi
24  Jan 21 To emil@lamisun.ep (38)   Re: pkz204c.exe & encryption contest
25  Jan 20 To Nicklas Svensso (40)   Re: Long file names at Garbo
26  Jan 18 To Ian Taylor      (62)   Re: msdos announcements
27  Jan 15 Harri Valkama      (25)   Missing CD-ROM files ??
28  Jan 13 To Tom Koelman     (44)   Re: Apparent bug in TIMEPEST 1.0
29  Jan 13 To mike@seb.se     (31)   Re: Diffs of the CAM FAQ?
30  Jan 13 To Eric Tsui       (42)   Re: Procomm for OS2

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From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Jan 13 06:34:36 1993
Subject: Re: Procomm for OS2
To: eric@basser.cs.su.oz.au (Eric Tsui)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 06:34:36 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9301130135.AA06559@garbo.uwasa.fi> from "Eric Tsui" at Jan 13, 93 12:32:46 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> I read your files about using PROcomm to transfer files between two
> PCs (both running OS2 2.0). But where can I get the actual PROCOM
> software ? I know there is PRCM243.zip under MSDOS/termprog but I
> imagine that is for purely DOS environment or am I wrong ?

Hi,

I am pleased that you have been found my
 58571 May 29  1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tspfon29.zip
of interest.

Yes, Eric, it is for MsDos like all the programs in our /pc
directories.  In fact, I do not know if there is an OS/2 version.
There are so few applications for OS/2 compared to MsDos and
Windows, anyway.  Besides Garbo does not support OS/2.  Perhaps you
should pose your question in a UseNet os2 newsgroup.  There are some
goods ones out there.  Take a look at your .newsrc for the
newsgroups.

BTW, Procomm+ is a fully commercial product, while Procomm is
shareware, but I am sure you knew that.  (I know from advertisments
in the PC magazines that there is also a Windows Procomm+ version).
Anyway, that means that you might want to visit your computer store.
You can always run an application in an MsDos or Windows window.

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Jan 13 17:19:38 1993
Subject: Re: Diffs of the CAM FAQ?
To: mike@seb.se
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 17:19:38 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <01GTGNA78I02000D5I@seb022> from "mike@seb.se" at Jan 13, 93 07:31:31 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Might I suggest an improvement to your FAQ? Could you in the contents
> mark thoses items which have been updated this time, or the date of
> their latest update.

This is a very good suggestion Mike.  It is very unfortunate that I
don't think I can spare the extra effort it would require.  But
thanks for the tip.

There is, however, one way you can do this yourself.  Take two
consequtive FAQ versions and run them through any diff program.

> PS Thanks for your "gentle user" comments. As a relatively new News
>    user, I appreciate them.

I am very pleased to hear that.

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Jan 13 22:19:02 1993
Subject: Re: Apparent bug in TIMEPEST 1.0
To: tkoelman@cs.vu.nl (Tom Koelman)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 22:19:02 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To:  <9301121446.aa00634@jol08.cs.vu.nl> from "Tom" at Jan 12, 93 02:46:54 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Dear Timo,
>
> When I tried the TIMEPEST program, dated 10-Oct-92, ver 1.0, I
> discovered the following strange thing. I wanted to have the computer
> beep every 30 minutes, so I type "TIMEPEST 30 /d". The result was an
> error message, saying
>
> Parameter 30 out of range [1-1339]
>
> I found this very strange and started experimenting. Apperantly the
> program only accepts values between 1 and 22, whereas it says they can
> be between 1 and 1339...

Yes Tom, you are quite right.  This is a silly mistake in my code.
I will correct this in the next version so that the program will
work for intervals up to 1439 minutes.  Sorry for the bug, and thank
you for bringing this to my attention.  Always appreciated.

> I don't know what I'm doing wrong. If you have time could you please
> help me with this?

You are doing nothing wrong.  It is the unfortunate bug.

>                                         Much of greetings from
>                                         Tom Koelman

   All the best, Timo

>                                         tkoelman@cs.vu.nl

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From hv@garbo.uwasa.fi  Fri Jan 15 08:04:06 1993
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 08:04:43 +0200
From: hv@garbo.uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
To: NDB008@nov.hb.se
In-Reply-To: "Nicklas Svensson"'s message of 14 Jan 93 14:26:36 CET <MAILQUEUE-101.930114142635.384@nov.hb.se>
Subject: Missing CD-ROM files ??
Status: RO


   Hi
   I downloaded a filelist from you today from CD-ROM\gifs which
   contained a lot of different gif-files. However these files and
   directories seems to be missing or what ?

   Regards

   Nicklas Svensson/ndb008@nov.hb.se

Yes, they  are supposed to  be  missing,  too. This CD-ROM dir is only
mirror from Walnut Creek CDROM index files.

-harri-



From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Jan 18 14:44:07 1993
Subject: Re: msdos announcements
To: se_taylo@rcvie.co.at (Ian Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 14:44:07 +0200 (EET)
Cc: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
In-Reply-To: <9301181029.AA29251@rcsun1> from "Ian Taylor" at Jan 18, 93 11:29:43 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: RO

>
> Hello and first let me thank you for your wonderful support of the msdos
> world.

Thank you.  Appreciated.

> As the owner of an old 256K PC/XT I have found to my dissapointment that
> many simtel programs are beyond the capability of my machine :-(

That is so outmoded that you rather should upgrade.

> Perhaps this has been raised before, but how can I check this before I
> waste net resources copying the software.

I am afraid that you can't.

> It would be nice if announcements included minimum requirements, better
> still if simtel also gave this info in the index (I know it does sometimes)

Yes certainly.  But including such information is entirely up to the
uploaders.  The archive site maintainers cannot afford the extra
effort required.

> A standard formula like:
>
>   min ram/min hard disk/display adaptors/input devices/min dos version
>
> would be real nice, so I could grep software with a pattern like:
>
>   256K/0M/CGA/KEY/DOS5

That is, per se, a sensible suggestion for the uploaders, and I'll
forward this to the news.  But as far as the file lists are
concerned there is not enough room, and besides its far far too much
work for the maintainers.

> Best wishes,

All the best, Timo

> +-- I -------- fax +43 1 391452 --------------------- voice +43 1 391621 169 --+
> | T a y l o r  Alcatel Austria Research, Ruthnergasse 5, Vienna A-1210 Austria |
> +-- n ---- ian@rcvie.co.at --- PSI%023226191002::SE_TAYLOR --- 20731::ian -----+
>
>       Self referential, terse, profound yet witty disclaimer

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From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Jan 20 09:11:46 1993
Subject: Re: Long file names at Garbo
To: NDB008@nov.hb.se (Nicklas Svensson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 09:11:46 +0200 (EET)
Cc: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930119152331.448@nov.hb.se> from "Nicklas Svensson" at Jan 19, 93 03:23:31 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>
> Hi Timo, I've got one major problem when I download certain files.
> Some files has more than 3 charactors after the dot for example :
> .INDEX such files can not be downloaded to PC/MS-DOS system.
> Well then I tried to rename the file with the FTP command "rename"
> but this didn't work, I got the message "Permission denied" .
>
> So my question is how do I download such files ?
>
> -Nicklas-

Hello Nicklas,

.INDEX is not meant to be downloadable at all.  Its permissions are,
indeed, intended to prevent the users from downloading it.  It is
our own internal working file.  Download INDEX.ZIP (or INDEX)
instead.

But as for other potential, similar cases, with nonstandard
filenames, please let us know, because but for such intentional
exceptions I would like to avoid having such filenames which do not
conform to the MsDos 8+3 standard.

    All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Jan 21 06:51:00 1993
Subject: Re: pkz204c.exe & encryption contest
To: emil@lamisun.epfl.ch
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:51:00 +0200 (EET)
Cc: PKWARE.Inc@mixcom.com (PKWare Inc)
In-Reply-To: <9301202212.AA11155@lamisun3.epfl.ch> from "emil@lamisun3.epfl.ch" at Jan 21, 93 00:12:35 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>
> Speaking about pkzip... Do you happen to know anything
> about the contest that pkware organized last year concerning
> finding password. I know pkzip uses a new scheme for file
> encryption. Is it still compatible with the older one?
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Waiting for the war to begin...                      Emil
>

Hello Emil.

Nothing whatsoever.  I just made the contest information file
available.  It has not been followed up, which is not the best of
publicity.

 14433 Apr 3 1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcutil/pkcontst.zip

I don't know the answer to the latter question either.  Sorry.

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
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From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Jan 26 07:20:36 1993
Subject: Re: cd-rom info on garbo.uwasa.fi
To: rodg@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Rod Gamble)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:20:36 +0200 (EET)
Cc: rab@sprite.Berkeley.EDU (Robert A. Bruce), hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
In-Reply-To: <199301260410.AA09958@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> from "Rod Gamble" at Jan 26, 93 03:10:00 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Hi there Timo.

Hello Rod,

> I would like to know if garbo has or going to supply a cd-rom of
> garbo.uwasa.fi: /pc/* . Something similar to simtel-20 or cica.
>  I have been looking around but can't find it anywhere. If so where is
> it available in Australia (if known).

Garbo is already available on CD-ROM.  The information is readily
downloadable as
  12348 Jan 23 10:27 garbo.uwasa.fi:/CD-ROM.INF
The file is in the main directory, not our usual /pc directory, but
above it.  The information is also contained in my Frequently Asked
Questions collection
 107719 Jan 24 13:51 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq32.zip
It is very easy to find it in there because it is a separate file
CDROM.INF within the collection.

> ON the other hand is it a mirror of simtel.

No, most definitely not!  Garbo is not a mirror site of any archive
site.  We are an independent operation.

No, if there is a problem, it is rather that the last and only
release dates back to March 1992.  That is not up to us, but Walnut
Creek, the authors of the CD-ROM.

> Cheers and thanks in advance de Rod

   All the best, Timo

> --
> Rod Gamble (Vk2Day)                                 rodg@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
> Phone +61-2-396-2026                                vk2day@vk2day.ampr.org
> Fax   +61-2-396-2005

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From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Jan 26 08:13:38 EET 1993
Article: 749 of comp.archives.msdos.d
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Garbo vs SIMTEL20 specializations
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.061244.23837@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <C1E20D.8J@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> <1993Jan25.045335.5949@uwasa.fi> <1993Jan26.042955.5899@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:12:44 GMT
Lines: 45
Status: RO

In article <1993Jan26.042955.5899@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> jmukher@lonestar.utsa.edu (Joy . Mukherjee) writes:
>What can we the users do?  Its seems that Garbo is really the place to send
>source code, while Simtel is the place to send shareware/freeware type
>programs.  Is this a good rule to use, or should we send them to both?

No, it is far from that simple.  Rather it goes like this.  SIMTEL20
is a much more general repository than Garbo.  Garbo specializes in
some areas while leaving some others out.  Among Garbo's
specializations are
  - Quality MsDos utilities
  - Turbo Pascal programming
  - Education (we are a university)
  - Educational MsDos games
  - Mathematics and statistics (again the university in the background)
  - Astronomy related programs
  - Some special information (like my FAQs, ftp site lists, etc)
I think this gives you the drift of Garbo's direction.  It also is
to indicate that while we carry material for some other OSes (with
the exception of OS/2), our main lines are within the MsDos domain.

Not carried at all or of lesser interest to us
  - Recreational games (these are ulowell's specialization)
  - Recreational gifs
  - Non-English utilities
  - BBS systems related material
  - All religion related material (goes also for bible utilities)

There also are a few utilities which Garbo can carry, but SIMTEL20
can't because of management policies (please let's leave this at
that).

Please observe a wish of Keith's (and mine).  You are welcome to
query about Garbo policies, because I have a definite say in them,
even if in 99% of cases I have to discard the users' kind
suggestions because they would involve excessive work for me.
SIMTEL20 general policies are decided by the SIMTEL20 management and
should thus rather not be debated.

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From hv@garbo.uwasa.fi  Tue Jan 26 09:55:46 1993
From: hv@garbo.uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:56:32 +0200
Message-Id: <9301260756.AA01821@garbo.uwasa.fi>
To: OddGunnar.Dalen@eiklh.no
Cc: ts@garbo.uwasa.fi
In-Reply-To: (Odd Gunnar Dalen) od's message of Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:18:00 GMT <44282.od@postkontor.eiklh.no>
Subject: Re: SIMTEL directory disappearance
Status: RO


   Hello Timo, Harri, I have two questions for You;

   Sometimes the contents of the SIMTEL directory disapear, what does happen ?

Yes, because simtel dir  is only NFS mount from another workstation of
ours that has a CD-ROM station with Simtel September disc inside.

   I'm looking for a SCSI CD-ROM NLM for Novell 3.11, do You know about one ?

No. Sorry.

   Best regards.....

   Odd Gunnar Dalen, System supervisor

   Eik College of Education
   Postboks 10 Lofts-Eik, 3109 T\NSBERG, Norway

   Tlf: 033-68022

-harri-


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Jan 26 15:13:24 1993
Subject: Re: Where are you geographically
To: fazc016@hq.dla.mil (Don Costello)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:13:24 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9301261302.AA04107@hq.dla.mil> from "Don Costello" at Jan 26, 93 08:02:39 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>   BTW -- I was trying to figure out where you are in relation to the
>   rest of the planet.  I'm in Virginia.  I was about to ask if you ever

Take a look at these maps
  77606 Apr 16 1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/gif/euro01e.gif
  33430 Apr 16 1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/gif/euro01v.gif

Also of interest in this respect:
   5425 Aug 5 09:12 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/vaasa.inf
   8475 Aug 5 08:56 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/vaasa2.inf

>   sleep because I've gotten mail from you at "odd" hours in the past but

Sometimes I wonder even myself. :-)

>   my geography/history/woman-of-the-world fiance told me you're
>   somewhere near Europe.  I obviously don't know my geography too

In, not only near, in. :-)

>   well...
>
>   Thanks for the info.  See you on the net -- dcc

You bet. :-)

   All the best, Timo

> +------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
> | Don Costello, US Dept of Defense   |   TEL: (703) 274-7215     AV: 284-7215 |
> | Defense Logistics Agency           | email:   fazc016@hq.dla.mil            |
> | Cameron Station, Alexandria, VA    |        dcostello@hq.dla.mil            |

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From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Jan 28 06:43:13 1993
Subject: Re: Moderator's time
To: stevens_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (GRANT STEVENS)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:43:13 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <00967488.08911AE0.3838@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> from "GRANT STEVENS" at Jan 28, 93 11:30:11 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>
> Thanks for the information, does an FTP site require ALOT of time?
>

Yes Grant, it certainly does.  That is why I have the prerecorded
messages and the FAQs.  That is also why try to concentrate on
specialized areas only, like MsDos utilities and Turbo Pascal
programming, as my own interest have it.

   All the best, Timo

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Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Jan 29 21:50:40 1993
Subject: Re: A file on Garbo with Finnish names?
To: eyal@fir.canberra.edu.au (Eyal Lebedinsky)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 21:50:40 +0200 (EET)
Cc: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama), mt@uwasa.fi (Matti Taanonen)
In-Reply-To: <9301290216.AA25597@fir.canberra.edu.au> from "Eyal Lebedinsky" at Jan 29, 93 01:16:12 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Hi,
>
> Hope this is not too much of a bother. I am looking for a file with
> Finnish names to analyze (for soundex routines etc.). I wonder if there
> is such a file on garbo (I could not find a good reference, I have the
> CDROM).
>
> Second best will be ANY finnish text, the larger the better.
>
> Thanks.

Hello Eyal,

My most common response to emailed "looking for" questions is
sending the requester our prerecoded instructions which include
references to our file lists.  The reason is that I often cannot
take the time for individual tutoring off the news.  On the news it
is a bit different because the answer is (probably/hopefully) useful
to a number of users at one go (my whosale attitude to ratinalize
the moderator's work).  But your query somewhat an exception.  (I'll
also post this response, nevertheless)

Practically all Garbo files and programs have to be in English.  It
is our policy not to accept any other languages.  There is, however,
at least one exception, that is my exams for our students.  These
exams are in Finnish and they are stored in our /pc/exam directory.
The files are

 119996 Dec 16 15:47 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/exam/blprat41.zip
 159995 Dec 15 14:01 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/exam/blpten41.zip
  75799 Nov  5 14:25 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/exam/yitrat36.zip
  92470 Nov  5 12:02 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/exam/yitten36.zip

The first two concern Budgeting and Linear Programming.  The last
two concern Capital Investment and Financial decisions.  There also
is

  36245 Jan 21 15:21 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/exam/krlis005.zip

but this file is in English.  It is an annotated set of references
and brief abstracts for my M.Sc. (econ.) students' theses.  The
principal subject is Financial Statement Analysis which is my own
academic research specialization.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Feb  4 00:30:24 1993
Subject: Re: McAfee 9.12V100 CLEAN
To: kipf7064@mach1.wlu.ca (Dave Kipfer u)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 00:30:24 +0200 (EET)
Cc: mcafee@netcom.COM (Aryeh Goretsky McAfee Associates)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.05.9302031757.A2969-9100000@mach1.wlu.ca> from "Dave Kipfer u" at Feb 3, 93 05:20:57 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>       The file CLEAN.EXE in the archive I obtained from
> msdos/virus@garbo.uwasa.fi failed the authenticity test.  The CLEAN100.DOC
> file specifies a size of 134,347 bytes, and VALIDATE.COM returned with
> 134,337 bytes in length for the file.  The date, and both CRC checks were
> correct however.  It is claimed to be verified by McAfee themselves (the
> ZIP file), could this be a typo in the DOCs?
>
>       I just thought you would like to know.
>
>       Dave Kipfer (Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Ontario, Can.)

Hello Dave,

The DOCs are correct.  The reason for the discrepancy in the file
size results from the fact that all .zip files on Garbo are
routinely changed to have the following header.  That's all there is
to it.

FTP archives garbo.uwasa.fi, U of Vaasa, Finland, moderated by
Timo Salmi ts@uwasa.fi     Publicity, MsDos, selected MsDos uploads
Harri Valkama hv@uwasa.fi  MsDos, Win, Mac, Unix, uploads, garbo SysMgr
Hannu Hirvonen hh@uwasa.fi Unix, chyde SysMgr, postmaster

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Feb  4 11:12:43 1993
Subject: Re: Mailservers for Simtel, wuarchive & cica ?
To: lfosdal@falcon.no (Lars Fosdal)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 11:12:43 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <qiqFyB4w165w@falcon.no> from "Lars Fosdal" at Feb 4, 93 08:57:37 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Hello, Timo !
>
> First, I'd like to thank you for maintaining garbo,
> secondly, for your frequent postings in comp.lang.pascal and other groups,
> and third...(Sorry to burden you with this, but...)

Thank you.  Appreciated.

> I need instructions on (or pointers to such) retrieving files by mail
> from simtel20, wuarchive, and cica, or their mirror sites.

What I have on this is in
   6833 Jan 27 12:33 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder20.zip

> I'm not ftp-able, and so far my only source have been garbo.
> I see a lot of programming material going to simtel, and also
> some WinNT stuff at cica, but I can't reach it :-(

Cica might, or might not be a problem.  I only know of SIMTEL20 and
Garbo mail servers, but that does not prove anything.

> I know I'm adding to a probably overloaded mailbox, but I'd
> be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction.

That's ok.  I'll also post this, since this might be of general
interst.

All the best, Timo

> Lars F.
> --
> / Mr.Lars Fosdal              / Falcon AS            / lfosdal@falcon.no  /
> / Software Developer          / Stranden 1           / Tel. +47 22831310  /
> / Financial Analysis Systems  / N-0250 OSLO, Norway  / Fax. +47 22831290  /
> ----=* All opinions are personal and does not reflect company policy *=----

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From rcmcc@canis.bellcore.com  Thu Feb  4 19:55:58 1993
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 12:55:22 EST
From: rcmcc@canis.bellcore.com (Ron McConnell)
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: ruler.bat
Cc: rcmcc@canis.bellcore.com
Status: RO

Timo,

I downloaded your useful batch files package.
"ruler.bat" uses a little trick that I have also
used with one addition.  I've twiddled yours
to match by including a "tens" column.

Ron Mcconnell

@echo off

rem Ruler by Prof. Timo Salmi 9-Jul-91
rem This simple batch helps to pinpoint the columns of the screen by
rem displaying a ruler. The batch uses ansi escape sequences to avoid
rem excessive scrolling.

echo [2A
echo 0--------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7---------8
echo 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
echo [2A

echo on

From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Feb  5 02:46:00 1993
Subject: Re: educational software
To: A Garbo User
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 02:46:00 +0200 (EET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

>
> Dr. Salmi,

Hi!

Never mind, but that's not what I am formally called.  I'm Prof.
Salmi, but I strongly prefer being called Timo.

> Do you know of any algebra tutorial shareware?

I can't really say accurately.  What we have is in our /pc/education
and /pc/educgames directories.  Take a look at our file lists
/pc/INDEX.ZIP and /pc/INDEXTS.ZIP.

> T..

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Feb  5 21:01:14 1993
Subject: Re: comments on TS5DOS11
To: ejdevold@hwking.cca.cr.rockwell.com (Eric J. DeVolder)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 21:01:14 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9302051400.AA13990@tasha.cca.cr.rockwell.com> from "Eric J. DeVolder" at Feb 5, 93 08:00:30 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Timo,
>   I noticed the contents of your TS5DOS11 and thought that I would
>   drop you a comment.  The program named
>
>   DRIVEOFF.EXE    Disable/enable a drive
>
> caught my eye.  I too have written a program to do this.  If you want, check
> it out.  It has been on Simtel20 for about 2 years now.  I think it is in the
> DSKUTL directory under
>
>    RMDRIV20.ZIP
>
> Just thought you might want to look at it.
>
> --Eric DeVolder
>   ejdevold@pobox.cca.cr.rockwell.com
>   Rockwell, International -- Collins Commerical Avionics Group

Hello Eric,

Thank you for the tip on my
 22605 Feb 4 08:43 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/ts5dos11.zip

This is quite common.  That is that utilities are rewritten over and
over again.  The real story behind DRIVEOFF is that I wanted have a
source code of my own.  Quite a few of my utilities are side effects
of this habit of mine.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Feb  6 08:41:03 EET 1993
Article: 9536 of comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Keyboard buffer extenders
Message-ID: <1993Feb6.064044.21989@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <5FEB199315441679@zeus.tamu.edu>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1993 06:40:44 GMT
Lines: 25
Status: RO

In article <5FEB199315441679@zeus.tamu.edu> mgm2731@zeus.tamu.edu
(Mike 'Vogon' Margolis) writes:
>Does anyone know of a program that increases the Path length allowed by
>MS-DOS 5.0? I've tried increasing the environment size in config.sys, but that
>seems to have no effect on the 128 character maximum on for the path.

You can also circumevent this problem by using the substitute trick
explained in
  98246 Jan 30 22:20 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsbat41.zip

>While we're at it, are there any programs that increase the size of the
>type-ahead buffer? Thanks.

Take a look at garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/keyboard directory and our MsDos
index file /pc/INDEX.ZIP.  I would recommend for example starting
with either of the following two programs

   3841 Feb  2  1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/keyboard/256keys.zip
  13940 Jan 28 17:55 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/keyboard/keybuf10.zip

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Feb  6 10:24:20 1993
Subject: Re: Why Garbo/Oakland don't match SIMTEL20
To: BEEZER@CC.UTAH.EDU
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1993 10:24:20 +0200 (EET)
Cc: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen)
In-Reply-To: <3FA4B5F89C01342B@CC.UTAH.EDU> from "BEEZER@CC.UTAH.EDU" at Feb 6, 93 00:39:00 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O


Hello Andy,

> [ I have your FAQ file, please let me know if I missed the ]
> [ critical information to this question.                   ]

Which one, please.  I have several FAQs.

> I see folks upload to SIMTEL, and understand that GARBO and
> OAKLAND (among others) are supposed to be mirror sites.

Where exactly did you get such a notion from.  Garbo does not do any
mirroring.  Please help me in correcting the FAQ if it really gives
rise to such a misconception.  Please poinpoint the section that
lead you to this question.

Oakland, on the other hand is a mirror of SIMTEL20 (but not of
Garbo).

> Why is it that GARBO/OAKLAND often don't seem to have the
> uploaded files mentioned in comp.archives.msdos.announce
> within atleast a few days after upload ?

I'll redirect the Oakland question to Keith Petersen.  As for Garbo,
I repeat that it is NOT a SIMTEL20 mirror despite a close
cooperation between the two sites' moderators.

> On maybe another note, why does GARBO appear to be more of
> a 'master' site that receives uploads -- and the same many
> day delay to SIMTEL/OAKLAND appears to happen after the
> upload information is posted to CAMA ?

Garbo is neither a master nor a slave.  SIMTEL20 just paces the
announcements differently.  SIMTEL20 is a much broader repository in
scope than Garbo which speciazes.  Keith Petersen (SIMTEL20
moderator) and I have decided that we do not have the time to
coordinate our upload announcements if they happen to overlap.
Hence you may somtimes, or even often see the same or similar
announcements from both the sites.

> Sorry if I didn't read-up in the right place in the FAQs.

This feedback is welcome, since I wish to get the FAQ right in a
sense that it would not lead to misunderstandings.

>
> Andy
>
> [ By the way, your work is MOST appreciated.]

Thank you.  That is nice to hear.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1993 07:20:51 -0500 (EST)
-To: BEEZER@CC.UTAH.EDU
-Subject: Re: [QUESTION]:  WHY GARBO/OAKLAND DON'T MATCH SIMTEL20
-From: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen - MACA WSMR)

Andy you wrote:
> Why is it that GARBO/OAKLAND often don't seem to have the
> uploaded files mentioned in comp.archives.msdos.announce
> within at least a few days after upload ?

Andy, OAK.Oakland.Edu is a mirror of WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil, not of
garbo.  If I post an upload announcement that says a file is available
from WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil, it is also available from OAK *at the time
the announcement is posted*.  If you find cases where that is not true
please give me the file names and I will fix the problem.

> On maybe another note, why does GARBO appear to be more of
> a 'master' site that receives uploads -- and the same many
> day delay to SIMTEL/OAKLAND appears to happen after the
> upload information is posted to CAMA ?

Some authors seem partial to uploading to garbo.  I don't know why that
is, but I don't have time to chase after all the new garbo files to put
them on SIMTEL20.  I do get a few, and those are the ones which usually
appear several days after they have been announced on garbo.  If an
author wants to be sure that the file is available from both garbo and
SIMTEL20 he or she must upload it to both sites.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND



-From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Feb  7 08:16:34 1993
-Subject: Re: [QUESTION]:  WHY GARBO/OAKLAND DON'T MATCH SIMTEL20
-To: BEEZER@CC.UTAH.EDU
-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 08:16:34 +0200 (EET)
-Cc: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil (Keith Petersen), hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
-X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]

Hello Andy,

>Ah, ok - I don't think it was a lack of communication of either
>of you.  I was given a list of SIMTEL20 mirror sites, and garbo
>was included...

If it was an emailed personal note to you it does do any general
harm that Garbo was mistaken for a mirror.  But if it was on some
publicly distributed list, please give me the details.  I would like
to see if the information can be rectified.  Incidentally, note that
there _is_ a SIMTEL20 mirror in Finland.  It is called nic.funet.fi.
Perhaps that partly is the source of the occasional misconception.

>Since Timo is most visible in the announcement/discussions area - it
>appeared that he was the main moderator.  In that case, what/where
>should I get from GARBO to search it's indexs?

My greater visibility is only apparent if you pardon the pun, since
we have roughly organized this so that I maintain the FAQ and take
care of the guidance to keep the relevant newsgroups on track.
Keith is the principal moderator.  Keith handles the vast majority
of material that comes out both sites told.  The same goes in a
sense for Garbo.  Even if he seldom posts on the news, Harri Valkama
handled the majority of Garbo uploads until the late 1992.  At
present part of Garbo uploads pile up in our general queue until
Harri hopefully has the time to see to it.  I still handle select
MsDos uploads only.

I don't quite know what to answer to the second part.  To search the
Garbo indexes use any good file browser or editor.  If you need the
prerecorded general Garbo instructions (29Kb), just ask, and I'll
email them to you.  But they won't have anything quite on this,
provided I understood the question correctly.

>Most appreciated,
>
>   Andy Dalrymple

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Feb  7 09:44:00 1993
Subject: Re: Utils collection F, TSUTLF10.ZIP
To: stuce@csv.warwick.ac.uk (The Great One)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 09:44:00 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <28241.199302051714@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> from "The Great One" at Feb 5, 93 05:14:39 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

Hello Peter,

Thank you.  This kind of feedback is very welcome and useful.

> I downloaded tsutlf10.zip from garbo today and tried out the programs.
> While using strmemo.exe, I found out that it does not accept hex strings
> with the character E in them. And states that E is not a hexidecimal
> character. I think that this is a bug, am I correct?

You are quite right.  I'll have corrected this now, and will be
releasing an update soon.  The bug resulted from a trivial typing
error in the code.

> Also a suggestion for a future update to this program would be to allow
> out put to a file, I tried, strmemo $0000 $FFFF > file.txt , but file.txt
> was empty. Do I need to type something else, or is this feature not
> supported yet?

I cannot reproduce this error.  What happens if you try
  strmemo $0000 $FFFF
without the redirection.  If there are no strings in the range, then
the output file will be empty.  But the redirection feature is
supposed to be supported.  Try with a wider range like
  strmemo $00000 $1FFFF > file.txt
and see if the problem persists.

> Peter Weighill.

All the best, Timo

> -----------------===================***====================------------------
>    stuce@csv.warwick.ac.uk                                   The Great One
> -===========================================================================-

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

-From: The Great One <stuce@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
-Subject: Re: Utils collection F
-To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 93 13:10:25 GMT

Thanks for the reply you send me.

> I cannot reproduce this error.  What happens if you try
>   strmemo $0000 $FFFF
> without the redirection.  If there are no strings in the range, then
> the output file will be empty.  But the redirection feature is
> supposed to be supported.  Try with a wider range like
>   strmemo $00000 $1FFFF > file.txt
> and see if the problem persists.

I cannot reproduce the error either, I had tried redirecting the output
once and it did not work then later after I that mailed you I tried it
again and it worked! So I'm not sure what went wrong the first time.

> ..................................................................
> Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
> Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
> Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
> Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

Peter.


-----------------===================***====================------------------
   stuce@csv.warwick.ac.uk                                   The Great One
-===========================================================================-


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Feb  7 22:47:27 1993
Subject: Re: Resclock
To: Frank.Freese@p25.f604.n240.z2.fidonet.org (Frank Freese)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1993 22:47:27 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <729100393.F00001@fast> from "Frank Freese" at Feb 4, 93 12:00:00 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Dear Timo ,

Hello Frank,

> I downloaded your little utility RESCLOCK from nic.funet.fi . I enjoy
> this program very mach, and I think it's really useful.

I am pleased to hear that you have found RESCLOCK contained in
  55182 Jan  5 16:49 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tstsr15.zip
of use to you.

> I have one suggestion for RESCLOCK 2.0 :
>
> could you add two command-line-switches for line and row of the clock
> on the screen ?

Yours is a good suggestion.  Thanks.  I'll bear the idea in mind.

> Your's sincerly
>
> Frank Freese
> Internet: iffreese@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland



From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Feb  8 07:10:45 EET 1993
Article: 273 of uwasa.info
Newsgroups: uwasa.info
Path: uwasa.fi!ts
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Motivation behind Garbo/Simtel
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 05:08:07 GMT
Status: RO

In article <1993Feb8.020645.11603@cs.cornell.edu> of
comp.archives.msdos.d cwong@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Yoong-Meng
Wong) writes:
>Please spare some bandwidth for a question. Garbo and Simtel are both
>Internet legends, thanks to the efforts of Timo and Keith respectively. I
>know the "what" -- they are anonymous ftp sites with tons of goodies -- and
>"how" (to download); could someone tell me why? What is the motivation
>behind dedicating such time and hardware for a "free" service to the
>Internet? How are such efforts paid for? Just curious.

There is a huge amount of related information for Garbo in the
following files and material.  In brief, would you else know of a
remote country called Finland, a remote township with 55000
inhabitants called Vaasa, of our university, and of our faculty.
This is my way of rooting for the envisaged global electronic
village, and making us an integral part of it.  Besides
dissemination of knowledge is part of my own calling as a university
professor.  Hence also the many FAQs and my frequent "guidance" on
the net.

   5589 Aug 18 12:35 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/garbohis.zip
   5425 Aug  5  1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/vaasa.inf
   8475 Aug  5  1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/vaasa2.inf
   4059 Dec 27  1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/hist91.zip
   6673 Dec 30 09:28 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/hist92.zip
  77606 Apr 16  1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/gif/euro01e.gif  (where we are)
  33430 Apr 16  1989 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/gif/euro01v.gif
   9983 Oct 20 16:49 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post00.zip   (the index)
  16951 Apr 18  1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post01.zip
  22145 Oct 11 07:37 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post02.zip
  26619 Oct 11 07:37 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post03.zip
  24478 Oct 11 07:37 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post04.zip
  23837 Apr 18  1992 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post05.zip
  23546 Oct 11 07:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post06.zip
  26912 Oct 11 07:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post07.zip
  30114 Oct 11 07:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post08.zip
  38386 Oct 11 07:38 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post09.zip
  30237 Oct 11 07:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post10.zip
  30361 Nov 13 11:25 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post11.zip
  31552 Jan 13 18:17 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post12.zip
  15529 Feb  7 22:48 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/post13.zip

-Subject: How are you, what's the weather like
-From: 31743 Jan 22 10:54 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsans065.txt
-Date: Thu 28 Jan 00:00:19 1993

19. *****
 Q: I would like to ask you some personal questions and/or know more
about Finland and Vaasa.  What kind of weather do you have over
there?  What is your field?  How come you are interested in
programming?  What are the main fields of University of Vaasa, and
so on?

 A: It is very nice of you to ask.  I hope that you understand that
for practical reasons (moderator's email-load) it is difficult for
me reply individually to these questions.  Instead, I have to refer
you to some of the material available in the /pc/ts/ directory.  The
file /pc/ts/vaasa.inf will give you information about Finland,
Vaasa, the University of Vaasa, our faculty, and even me.  Also see
vaasa2.inf.  And the gif pictures /pc/gif/euro01e.gif and
euro01v.gif will show you where Vaasa is located.  As for my own
background, please first see the current /pc/ts/vaasa.inf, then
tsfcom.inf which is part of the /pc/ts/tsfcom*.zip package.  I have
also put in writing some of my thoughts on programming in tsgmeb.inf
in the /pc/ts/tsgmeb*.zip package.

 A2: If you wish to ask questions about Finland, the Finnish
language or the Finnish culture, please post your questions to
soc.culture.nordic.  Even if I very much like to communicate, and
try to be of help, I am usually far too pressed for time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Feb  8 10:36:39 1993
Subject: Re: Utility to send escape codes to a Printer
To: bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 10:36:39 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <9302080809.AA03532@cs.utah.edu> from "bob angell" at Feb 8, 93 01:09:56 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Timo,

Hi Bob!

> Greetings from Salt Lake City, Utah!  I am looking for a utility
> to, at the DOS commandline, send escape codes to the printer
> without using BASIC - in other words, a program that has already
> been compiled.  I knew that this sort of thing might be something
> that you have already written?  or might know of someone who has?

You don't necessarily need a program.  The simplest of batch files
will do equally well.  Try
  @echo ESC%1 > prn
where ESC naturally is the escape character.  That is all there is
to it! And you can easily put whatever additional task you wish to
perform into the batch file.

> I got on garbo this afternoon and extracted a couple of programs
> off your archive, but they have take up too much memory for them
> to be useful.  I have written an application in Paradox that prints
> reports and graphs to diskette and would like to print them in a
> collated manner ... but without the utility, I cannot.  So, before
> I sit down and crank something out in C/C++, I am looking to see
> if someone else has put something like this together.
>
> Keep up the good work .... your archives are definitely some of the
> worlds finest!!!!  and your help in the MSDOS world is invaluable.

Blushing! :-)

> thanks for your help.
>
> -Bob-

All the best, Timo

> Bob Angell                               | Data Integration (multi-platform)
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>
>       [ Standard Disclaimer: Speaking for the University of Utah, NOT! ]

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Feb 10 03:27:48 1993
Subject: Re: Do you want these?
To: An uploader
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 03:27:48 +0200 (EET)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: RO

[A potential uploader inquired about uploading BBS related material
to Garbo]

Hello,

Thank you for your kind offer.  I regret to inform that due to my
exponentially piling workload I cannot handle any more uploads or
giving customized uploading advice unless the potential uploads are
specificially in my own narrow interest area.  We currently have a
local crisis in the question of handling uploads, and the situation
is just about now getting completely out of hand.  I'll forward your
query to my fellow moderator Harri Valkama.  I also suggest that you
contact SIMTEL20 moderator Keith Petersen who will be getting a copy
as well.  I will have to ask a pause to Garbo uploads on the UseNet
news.

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Feb 12 07:45:58 EET 1993
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: About "(administrative)" postings (Was Re: CATCH, a batch ...)
Message-ID: <1993Feb12.054451.12257@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 05:44:51 GMT
Lines: 91
Status: RO

In article <1le63sINNq8d@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>
ph12hucg@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Carsten Grammes) writes:
> Where is Timo's obligatory (administrative...) reply that software
> shouldn't be posted to discussion newsgroups?
>
> Or have I been faster this time?  :-)

Yes, you have been faster.  I saw the posting but was too busy to do
anything about it.

Let me reflect a bit on the "(administrative)" postings.  They seem
to invoke two kinds of reactions.  Some users hate them, but on the
other hand a lot of users wish that it is done.  It is unavoidable
that when one is active on the news and moderates a conspicuous FTP
site one gets both complimentary and abusive feedback.  As we know
it is quite human that the users are quicker to flame than thank.
Nevertheless, since whenever there is a "row" about the
administrative postings the large majority of the feedback still is
for it, I must conclude that the majority of the users like thing
well organized.  The complaints are in a clear minority despite the
fact that there is a natural predilection to voice one's gripes so
much more readily than one's agreement.

Personally I try to avoid bothering the same individual repeatedly,
since I am not out to police but to inform.  That does not quite
work both ways, since I have had about two individuals who used to
jump on me whenever I posted anything they did not happen to fancy.
This problem, fortunately, has disappeared ever since I was pointed
to elm email filters which enable me to sort my incoming email
automatically even before I see it.  This, incidentally came in very
handly in quite an unrelated (benevolent) incident.  The mailer of
one of our gentle uploaders went out of control and kept sending me
the same uuencoded upload about every hour for almost two days.
When I realized what was happening, I instructed the filter to
select and delete these messages at arrival.  And, indeed, it turned
out that it was an embarrassed uploader's mailer that had run amok.
Such a filter is also very handy in case anyone over tried "mailbox
cramming".

What about users who get an administrative note like "where to post"
or "don't post binaries" to discussion newsgroups.  I am pleased to
say most users understand the spirit correctly.  In other words they
see it in the right light as information and prefer to have it.
There is, however, a small majority who upon getting an
administrative note either turn abusive, or harbor a grudge and jump
on me at the first opportunity.

In fact the creation the new CAM.announce and CAM.d newsgroups was
triggered by an angered Dutch visiting the USA.  I informed him
about the organization of the various CBIP newsgroups after he
posted a "looking for" question to CBIP.archives (or did someting
similar).  When I later announced the upload of the Finnish BBS list
in CBIP.archives he jumped me for posting the announcement.  I still
don't understand why.  Anyway, right after that there was an another
user who declared that he'll post all his "wanted" questions to
CAM.announce whatever the FTP site moderators say and think about
it.  That was the final straw for Keith and me.  We balked and
declined to post any more upload announcements to CBIP.archives, and
the creation of the specialized, moderated newsgroup CAM.announce
(comp.archives.msdos.announce) + CAM.d got under way.  We now know
afterwards that this was a very good decision, since the new groups
have worked excellently, and there have practically been no such
problems (off-topic postings) that infested CBIP.archives and still
are extremely commonplace in CBIP.d.

As for posting binaries to discussion newsgroup, the reasons why
that should not be done, and how instead to go about distributing
material, are listed in
 107719 Jan 24 13:51 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq32.zip
 Most if not all the users who make the mistake of posting binaries
to the discussion newsgroups mean no harm.  On the contrary they are
helpful persons, but just do not know all the ropes yet.  The
spirit, but not the method, is appreciated and commendable.

As for the "(administrative)" postings.  The designator is used
because the users who so which for some reason or other can then
easily avoid having to see them.  The user only has to put the
appropriate designator in his/her kill file, or put my name in
there, if s/he so prefers.  More information on kill files can be
obtained as

 killfile.zip    rn KILL file FAQ from Leanne Phillips
 4356 Dec 22 23:41 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/killfile.zip

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Feb 13 07:18:25 1993
Subject: Re: a batch programming question
To: bmaggio@dcs.bellcore.com (Bill Maggio)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1993 07:18:25 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <199302102102.AA04953@wort.dcs.bellcore.com> from "Bill Maggio" at Feb 10, 93 04:02:59 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Timo,

Hello Bill,

> I received your tsbat40 utilities from wuarchive and just to
> let you know, they are EXCELLENT!  I have used bits and pieces
> of them and have picked up quite a few techniques I never
> knew from them.

I am very pleased to hear this.  Incidentally, the current version
is
  98246 Jan 30 22:20 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsbat41.zip

> But, I have a question and cannot seem to find an answer to anywhere.
> Since I figured you are probably the premier Dos batch file
> hacker around, I thought I'd try asking you.
>
> Is there a way, using batch file tricks, that you know of
> to create a random number pattern.  The reason: I'm looking to come
> up with an 8 character random number pattern, store the random pattern
> to a variable and then use the variable to store a log file that needs to
> have a unique filename.  The variable would change each time the batch
> file is run.
>
> There may be some simple way that I'm overlooking, but I thought you'd
> probably know or not.

A good question.  It's not simple but it can be done.  Please study
the following example and expand on it
  @echo off
  echo 10 randomize(val(mid$(time$,7,2))) > tmp.bas
  echo 20 open "tmp2.bat" for output as #1 >> tmp.bas
  echo 30 x$ = mid$(str$(int(rnd*10000)),2) >> tmp.bas
  echo 40 print #1,"@set ramdom_=";x$ >> tmp.bas
  echo 50 close #2 >> tmp.bas
  echo 60 system >> tmp.bas
  gwbasic tmp.bas
  call tmp2
  del tmp.bas
  del tmp2.bat
  set

> Thankx for any info!

Since your welcome question might be of general interest I'll also
post this reply to comp.os.msdos.programmer.

> Bill Maggio

All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Feb 13 07:54:44 1993
Subject: Re: Errorlevel support in 'STRINGS.EXE'?
To: Clotscher@coh.fgg.eur.nl
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1993 07:54:44 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <MAILQUEUE-101.930210210453.448@hb1.fgg.eur.nl> from "Pim Clotscher" at Feb 10, 93 09:04:53 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: O

> Prof. Salmi,

Hello Pim,

> The program STRINGS.EXE is part of your collection named tsutlf11.zip
> I am looking for a utility that supports errorlevels as a result from
> a text-search in a file. For example if 'searchstring' in file
> 'data.txt' is found, then exit-code (errorlevel) =0, if not found
> then errorlevel =1 (other errorlevels on DOS-errors, etc.). It should
> be fully DOS-compatible (version 3.x & up), running under COMMAND.COM
>
> The DOS command 'FIND' does not support errorlevels in this way,
> neither does Norton's 'filefind' or 'superfind'. Does yours??
> With JP-Soft's 4DOS command interpreter version 4.01d I have a
> solution, but this is not a common use in our Medical faculty.

Yours is just the kind for feedback that is very welcome and
valuable.  Thank you for the tip.  It is a good idea.  No, at the
moment errorlevels are not supported.  I did not come to think of it
but I'll certainly be looking into the matter.

> I would be very pleased to hear from you,
> With best regards,

   All the best, Timo

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Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Feb 15 11:15:02 1993
Subject: Re: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d ?? Meaning = ?
To: SRK106@PSUVM.PSU.EDU (Senthil Ramas Kumar)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 11:15:02 +0200 (EET)
In-Reply-To: <199302150904.AA02761@santra> from "Senthil Ramas Kumar" at Feb 14, 93 05:03:00 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5]
Status: RO

>
> Hi Timo: I have been wondering for quite a while as to what that "d" stand
> for in the newsgroup name ? Could u please point me to a FAQ or some such
> thing ? thank you.
>
> Kumar
>

The .d stands for discussion.  Many moderated newsgroups (like
comp.binaries.ibm.pc) have a discussion newsgroup attached to them.
Another example is comp.archives.msdos.d which is the discussion
newsgroup of comp.archives.msdos.announce, which I co-moderate.  The
the subjects of the discussion newsgroups are closely related to the
the moderated parent group subjects or tasks as is the case also
with comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d.

Many newsgroups including comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d and
comp.archives.msdos.d have specialized charters which are
periodically posted to the parent newsgroup.  Moderator Brian
O'Neill posts the comp.binaries.ibm.pc subgroup charters every 15th
(I think).  I post those of comp.archives.msdos every Saturday.

Take a look at the Frequently Asked Questions
 107719 Jan 24 13:51 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tsfaq32.zip
You can find the charters in there together with a huge amount of
net lore.

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

