From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Mar  8 06:46:17 1991
From: Timo Salmi <ts@uwasa.fi>
Subject: The /pc/pd2/post04.txt file description
To: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 99 6:46:16 EET
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
! This file is in mail format, so you can also read it with any !
! suitable Unix mail program such as elm: (elm -f post04.txt).  !
! Or try /pc/mail/rmail##.zip to read on a PC                   !
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

   This is the fourth file that contains my replies and comments
that I or others have made by email, or just written here instead of
posting to (mainly to) comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives, or postings
that I wanted to retain for your information.
   Note that the latest post##.txt is always being updated until it
contains 30 messages.  The files are located at the /pc/pd2
directory.

1   Dec 31 Timo Salmi         (33)   The /pc/pd2/post04.txt file descript
2   Oct 9  Bill T. Jurczyn    (54)   Re: integer programming software
3   Oct 8  Hannu Hirvonen     (41)   Re: JANET & garbo
4   Oct 8  To JAMES TURNER 70 (31)   Re: THANKS FOR PSK.EXE
5   Oct 4  Hannu Hirvonen     (32)   Re: host name problems
6   Oct 4  To Martin Taylor ( (52)   Re: TYPEVADE game
7   Oct 2  To Marek Repinski  (50)   Re: tschek14 again
8   Oct 1  To Marek Repinski  (74)   Re: tscheck14
9   Sep 29 To CBIP readers    (57)   CBIP newsgroups charter
10  Sep 27 To garbo questions (27)   Harri, not Timo, is garbo system man
11  Sep 22 To hardy@lucid.com (42)   Re: Your spell.exe program
12  Sep 17 Keith Petersen     (29)   SIMTEL20 task terminated
13  Sep 15 To Henk P Penning  (60)   Re: Quick login with anon-ftp
14  Sep 10 To DLEWIS@SCUACC.S (59)   Re: Converting text formats
15  Sep 9  To M. J. Saltzman  (55)   Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing sy
16  Sep 9  To MCNAMARA@TURING (53)   Re: Chen's mail server closed
17  Sep 9  To M. J. Saltzman  (24)   Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing sy
18  Sep 9  To Matthew Saltzma (37)   Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing sy
19  Sep 8  Timo Salmi         (51)   Re: TP v6.0 single key hits
20  Sep 3  To chen@deakin.OZ. (47)   Re: SM13A.ZIP now also at garbo
21  Sep 2  Kevin Twidle       (41)   Re: Automated FTP
22  Sep 1  To BEZEAU@unb.ca   (44)   Re: Your flag game (My daughters mad
23  Aug 18 To dave@sharkey.cc (130)  Re: Spell checking
24  Aug 16 Keith Petersen     (59)   Ordering SIMTEL20 files via e-mail
25  Aug 16 Timo Salmi         (36)   On garbo upload acceptance (Was Re:
26  Aug 16 To Fred Christians (36)   Re: file date verification
27  Aug 10 To Todd C. Gleason (43)   Re: Of backups (Was Re: how format 3
28  Aug 8  To rick clark      (73)   Re: suggestion for typing tutor game
29  Aug 7  Wm E. Davidsen Jr  (36)   cbip submission address
30  Aug 6  Timo Salmi         (37)   MsDos 5.0 and my sysinfo.exe program

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP  archives  128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi   BBS +(358)-61-3170972; FIN-65101,  Finland


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Aug  6 07:54:27 EET 1991
Article: 488 of comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Path: uwasa.fi!ts
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: MsDos 5.0 and my sysinfo.exe program
Message-ID: <1991Aug6.045233.23209@uwasa.fi>
Sender: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 04:52:33 GMT
Status: OR

Tue 6-Aug-91: The introduction of the new MsDos version 5.0 will be
causing some archive related work.  It might be useful to know which
shareware and PD programs will not work, and have to be rewritten by
the authors to make them still work.
   I must obviously go over my own programs as well at some juncture
and test whether they still work under MsDos 5.0.  The first suspect
programs are probably those which make use of the so-called
undocumented interrupts.  I have at least one such program, that is
sysinfo.exe in /pc/ts/tsutil33.arc.  It stops dead on page 3, and I
already know where in the code.
   It will also be interesting to see whether an abundance MsDos 5.0
specific PD and shareware utilities will emerge, and whether we will
thus need a special directory for them.  Time will show.
   P.S.  Note carefully, that this must not be turned into a
discussion of MsDos 5.0 itself.  That interesting discussion belongs
to other newsgroups.  The focus of here is the programs that are
available on the archives, and how MsDos 5.0 might affect them.

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From ts@uwasa.fi Thu Aug  8 08:06:05 1991
Subject: Re: suggestion for typing tutor game
To: rclark@concour.cs.concordia.ca (rick clark)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 91 8:06:05 EET DST
In-Reply-To:  <9108072232.aa19139@concour.cs.concordia.ca>; from "rick clark" at Aug 7, 91 10:31 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

>
>     Hi,
>
>     I would like to give you some feedback on your game "typevade" ver 1.2.
>
>     I think a good modification to the game would be to add a lower level(s) -
>     I'm thinking of making it useful for much younger children. On that
>     level, only upper case letters would be displayed, and unshifted keystrokes
>     would be accepted. I think this would be good for young children, those who
>     are just learning the alphabet.  That way, the symbol on the keys would
>     correspond exactly to the symbol shown on the screen.  The current lowest
>     level displays only lower case letters, but of course a lower case 'a'
>     doesn't look like an upper case 'A' which is on the keyboard. I was also
>     thinking that instead of several rows of characters, for the lowest level
>     you could have a very small number of rows (1, 2, or 3).  That way it would
>     be easier for the child to focus on a single letter to hit, and we could
>     say the letter together when it came up on the screen, then get him to hit
>    the key.
>
>     My nephew (3 years old) really likes the ending sounds and graphics, but I
>     wonder if the sound and graphics should be better when he gets the key
>     right, rather than when the game ends.  Perhaps you could add some special
>     graphics and sounds for attaining certain levels of performance (each 10
>     points for the lowest level?).
>
>     He loves to see the letters moving across the screen, and he enjoys being
>     able to fully use the keyboard.  He doesn't know the alphabet, but I'm
>     trying to get him to recognize the letters by using your game, and to get
>     him used to a computer.  He's having a hard time even at the lowest level,
>     but nonetheless I think it's an excellent learning tool, and he will
>     eventually grow into it.  You don't think I'm pressing him, do you?
>
>     I realize that the game was probably not intended for someone so young, but
>     I thought that if I could give you some feedback that would broaden the
>     range of children that could play it, it would benefit others (provided you
>     think the changes I suggest are worthwhile).
>
>     thanks
>
>     rick clark (rclark@concour.cs.concordia.ca)
>

Hello Rick,
   First my apologies for repeating all of your message above (not a
habit I would recommend to others).  The repeat is because this
message will go to /pc/pd2/post04.txt file of useful feedback.
(Incidentally, the result of the quoting also demonstrates the
advisability of having the right margin at somewhere around 70.  I
use 68 myself).
   Yes, thank you for your suggestion.  It is a good one.  I'll
seriously consider adding such a a toddler level to my TYPEVADE.EXE
from /pc/ts/tsgmeb14.arc.
   All the best, Timo

Epilogue: Soon after this I added an infant level to my TYPEVADE
game-like typing tutor, and released a new version
/pc/ts/tsgmeb15.arc for general download.

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From sixhub!davidsen@crdgw1.ge.com Thu Aug  8 02:23:19 1991
Return-Path: <sixhub!davidsen@crdgw1.ge.com>
Organization: *IX Upstate NY UNIX Users Group
Reply-To: sixhub!davidsen@crdgw1.ge.com
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 91 18:23:50 EDT
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (6.5 4/17/89)
From: sixhub!davidsen@crdgw1.ge.com (Wm E. Davidsen Jr)
To: S087891@umrvma.umr.edu
Subject: cbip submission address
Cc: ts@uwasa.fi
Status: OR

[Mike Castle inquired the submission address of the binary postings
to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. This is Bill's reply]

Mike

  The submission address for cbip is ibmbin@crdos1.crd.ge.com, which
forwards mail to the machine on which I unpack submissions. They are
then tested and posted on other machines.

--
bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen)
    sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX
    moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list
"Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me

From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Aug 10 08:12:06 1991
Subject: Re: Of backups (Was Re: how format 360K's (DS/DD) on a 1.2MB drive?)
To: gleasont@LONEX.RL.AF.MIL (Todd C. Gleason)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 91 8:12:06 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9108091514.AA08091@lonex.rl.af.mil>; from "Todd C. Gleason" at Aug 9, 91 11:14 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

> While I'm on archiving (BTW, I think you mentioned you use archives for your
> backups too.  I mean, why back up to the same amount of space, right?  If
> I'm wrong, sorry.), do you know of any kind of database type program for
> cataloging files?  I have a text file (long!) which I am willing to retype

   I use .zip archiving for backups, but I use the following system
and don't need a seraprate database program.  My backups are on
floppies, and each directory from harddisk goes to an archive of its
own.  Each floppy has a unique put.bat to take care of the .zip
backup easily and of the relevant directories.  I have handwritten
sticker labels on the flopies to show what is in where.  I also have
a get.bat to restore the files, if the need ever arises.  The
database I have is of the harddisk and I make it my a simple
recursive directory sweep to a textfile.  I use my own dirw (instead
of MsDos dir/w) program for this, since it can recurse all
directories.
   To reply to your question.  Sorry, I don't know offhand of a
suitable database.  Sometimes using databases may even be an
overkill.  One example.  I don't use any of the many reminder
programs to keep my schedules.  I tried once, but quickly went back
to using the old trustworthy pocket calendar with handwritten notes.

> Thanx immensely,
> --Todd Gleason--

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun



From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Aug 16 08:20:00 1991
Subject: Re: file date verification
To: fredch@phx.mcd.mot.com (Fred Christiansen)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 91 08:20:00
Status: OR

> I recently downloaded your tsgme???.zip packages from a Simtel20 mirror site.
> I unarchived them on my Unix box, then wrote them to a DOS-format floppy
> from the Unix box.  Took the floppy home and tried to execute typevade.exe
> et all off the floppy.  Each refused to run, citing a file data verification
> issue.  Any suggestions on how to get around this?  THx.
> --
> Fred Christiansen     |  Email:  fredch@phx.mcd.mot.com
> Motorola TSD (DW278)  |     or:  uunet!phx.mcd.mot.com!fredch
> 2900 S. Diablo Way    |  Voice:  602-438-3464
> Tempe, AZ  85282      |    Fax:  602-438-3836

   Well Fred, what can I say.  There has to be something wrong with
your data transfer procedure in general or your Unix to MsDos
conversion in particular.  As the first step you could try
transferring the .zips instead of the individual files and perform
the unarchiving on your MsDos, not on your Unix machine.
   As an additional point please note that if your procedure in any
way tampers with the datestamp, size or the checksum of the games
within the packages most of my games won't run.  This is
intentional.  Since they are games I have added such checks against
viruses and other tampering.

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Aug 16 23:24:28 EET 1991
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: On garbo upload acceptance (Was Re: Grapher.zip is uploaded to Garbo)
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 91 12:56:25 GMT
Status: OR

In article <1991Aug16.020132.19217@wpi.WPI.EDU> kamal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Kamal Z Zamli) writes:
>Freeware X and Y plotting program is uploaded to Garbo.  Source code
:
[Yes this is true, and thank you very much for the upload, Kamal.
But I have not processed your upload quite yet, so downloaders
please stand by if you don't find the package right away on garbo.]

On a general note to our kind uploaders announcing their
contributions to garbo of their own accord.  You are most welcome to
do it also yourself, but then also be aware of the following
potential complications.  Announcing the uploads before they are
processed here might lead to embarrassing situations, not only
because the file may not yet be available, but since we do not
accept automatically all the uploads.  (This one will pass, though,
in all probability).  The most common reasons for rejection are that
either the package does not fit within our specializations (happens
often to games and demos, and BBS facilities, almost invariably to
gifs, and always to religious and alike material), or that the
quality of the program is unacceptable.  Fortunately the latter does
not happen very often.  Sometimes a resubmission is required, most
often because of a missing (or non-English) documentation.

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From  w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Sat Aug 17 08:40:53 EET 1991
From: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL (Keith Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Subject: Ordering SIMTEL20 files via e-mail
Date: 16 Aug 91 20:38:29 GMT
Status: OR

If you do not have FTP access to SIMTEL20, files may be ordered by
e-mail from LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU or LISTSERV@VM.ECS.RPI.EDU.

           If you are on BITNET: LISTSERV@NDSUVM1
                                 LISTSERV@RPIECS

   If your mailer knows domains: listserv@vm1.nodak.edu
                                 listserv@vm.ecs.rpi.edu

If your mailer wants bang paths: uunet!vm1.nodak.edu!listserv
                                 uunet!vm.ecs.rpi.edu!listserv

If you use bang paths, substitute your nearest neighbor which is also
on the Internet for uunet in the examples above.  Some examples are:
ames, decvax, decwrl, gatech, harvard, hplabs, nosc, rutgers, sharkey,
sun, ucbvax, ucsd, udel, uw-beaver, wuarchive.

Send this command to the server to get its help file:

GET PDGET HELP

Sample command (which gets our catalog of MS-DOS files):

/PDGET MAIL PD:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>SIMLIST.ARC UUENCODE

These commands should be sent as the body of a regular email message.
Do not include a signature because it confuses the server.  If you
have xxdecode, you may wish to specify XXENCODE instead of UUENCODE to
avoid character translation problems.

Comments, questions, and suggestions should be directed to the LISTSERV
manager at one of these addresses, depending on which server you normally
use:

                    Internet                  BITNET

  "John Fisher" <FISHER@VM.ECS.RPI.EDU>   <FISHER@RPIECS>
  "Marty Hoag"  <INFO@VM1.NODAK.EDU>      <INFO@NDSUVM1>

Please do NOT send your comment or question about the servers to SIMTEL20.
However, if you wish to report a program bug or to request information
on how to upload files to SIMTEL20, you may send e-mail to me at one
of the addresses below.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil    or     w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Uucp: uunet!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz              BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Aug 18 20:48:05 1991
Subject: Re: Spell checking
To: tygra!dave@sharkey.cc.umich.edu
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 91 20:48:05 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9108161031.AA00321@sharkey.cc.umich.edu>; from "dave@sharkey.cc.umich.edu" at Aug 16, 91 5:20 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

>From: tygra!dave@sharkey.cc.umich.edu (David R. Conrad)
>Subject: Spell checking
>To: ts@uwasa.fi
>Date: Fri Aug 16 05:20:17 1991

Hello David,
   I'll make this reply publicly available on garbo.  Therefore I'll
first explain that this concerns my Unix-like spelling checker
/pc/ts/tschek12.arc.  The feedback you gave be was very useful.  (I
have also made corrections to my dictionary in accordance to the
list you kindly gave me.  I will not record that part of your
discussion).

>Perhaps you should design the checker so that it can take two word
>lists: a main dictionary, and then a user-supplied supplemental
>dictionary of jargon and proper names.

>>The idea of a double standard dictionary is novel, and not a bad one
>>at that.  In fact it is possible to device a batch that does exactly
>>that with the current version my tschek12.arc spelling checker.
>>First one uses a normal dictionary, pipes the results and then uses
>>the second dictionary.  I think I will write out such a batch
>>explicitly for the net.
>
>While I'd like to take credit for the idea, I think many word processors
>do this.  One big standard dictionary, and then a small supplemental
>dictionary for words the user has added.  WordPerfect 5.1 does this.
>
>I like your idea for implementing two dictionaries, and I've created a
>batch file, supplied here for your perusal:
>
>@echo off
>if "%1" == "" goto empty
>if "%1" == "/f" goto empty
>if exist %1 goto found
>echo File %1 not found.
>goto end
>:empty
>spell' d:\util\words.dic con /b | spell' d:\util\words.sup con %1 /b
>goto end
>:found
>spell' d:\util\words.dic %1 /b | spell' d:\util\words.sup con %2 %3 /b
>:end
>@echo on
>
>Note that I've renamed your program spell' so that I can use spell as the
>name of the batch file, and also that it requires DOS >= 3.3 as written.
>
>Note also the special handling for an empty command line or one with just
>the /f switch.  Most importantly, note how incorrect file names are
>handled.  If you let the first instance of spell generate a "Textfile
><file> not found." message, then the user won't see it.  Instead, the
>second spell will try to check the error message against the supplemental
>dictionary.  Also, the /b switch is required on the first instantiation,
>but I'm sure you knew that.  It would be more general-purpose if the last
>/b were replaced with %4 so that the user could choose it optionally.

A good solution.  There is also a simple alternative that does the
work adequately enough:
  @echo off
  spell c:\words\spelled3.dny %1 r:\tmp$$$ /f
  spell c:\words\short.dny r:\tmp$$$ | list /s
  del r:\tmp$$$
If %1 does not exist what one gets is a warning of R:\TMP$$$ not
existing.

The short.dny dictionary is a solution to the second dilemma you
pointed out.  It contains what you suggest below:

> "you'd don't I'm doesn't"
>
> it'll complain about:
>
> d don t m doesn

>My solution to this one was to add the necessary entry to the main
>dictionary (which I renamed words.dic) so that these would not be
>caught.  I also added all single letters so that it doesn't complain
>about acronyms (if they have periods, e.g. U.S.) or middle initials.
>Then I added entries like:
>
>aren
>couldn
>didn
:
>And along with t, s, and m, which were added as single letters, and
>re and o which are words in their own right, this has essentially solved
>the problem.

That's now what I consequently put in short.dny.

>I've also been adding words to the words.dic (by spell checking various
>text files and looking for common words not found).  Do you have any idea
>how far I can go before I "bump my head"?  I know you can't give me an
>exact answer, but very roughly speaking, about how many words do you think
>your program can handle, given say 500k of memory?  Also, how long does
>it take?  O(n)?  O(n^2)?  O(n log n)?  (where n is the number of words.)
>I've noticed a slowdown, but it's hard to say how much since I'm also
>now running the program twice for every file I spell check.  That could
>account for the entire difference in time.

My spelling checker bumps it head when the number of _different_
words in the text file exceeds 3000.  (That condition in actual,
written text is rare indeed).  Other than that there should be no
technical limitation to the size of the text file you are checking,
nor the dictionary you are using.  But in accordance to my own
experience waiting for an over 200K textfile to be checked gets
boring.

>David R. Conrad, dave@michigan.com

   All the best, Timo

Epilogue: I soon updated to /pc/ts/tschek13.arc after David's
feedback.

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep  1 08:37:01 1991
Subject: Re: Your flag game (My daughters made me do this!)
To: BEZEAU%unb.ca@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 91 8:37:01 EET DST
Cc: Garbo infolist
In-Reply-To:  <ID5827.D910831.T203522.BEZEAU@unb.ca>; from "BEZEAU%unb.ca@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca" at Aug 31, 91 8:35 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

>      I obtained your flag game from the SIMTEL20 server in the
> United States.  My two daughters, ages four and six, have spent
> many enjoyable hours playing the game and I'm sure that they have
> learned a lot as well.  They have difficulty reading the names of
> the countries but frequently ask me to tell them the names once
> they appear.  The game has increased their knowldege of and
> interest in the world.  In response to their questions about
> where you're from, I have told them what little I know about
> Finland.  They do have one request, that you increase the number
> of different flags in the game.  Being from Canada they would
> especially like to see the Canadian flag included.
>      Let me express my gratitude and theirs for the considerable
> work that you have obviously put into this game and for your
> generosity in sharing it with others.
>          Larry Bezeau (father of Dominica and Jessica)
>          Fredericton, Canada             BEZEAU@UNB.CA
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Hello Dominica and Jessica, and also father Larry who was made to do
this :-).  I am very pleased to hear that you have found the game
both enjoyable and educational.  The very purpose of my games is to
develop skills and make people interested in learning.  Looks like
they served their purpose here.  As to the Canadian flag.  The
reason why it is missing is simply that it is quite difficult to
draw with the computer program I am using.  It is not an oversight
of Canada.  Sorry for the disappointment in this respect.

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From kpt@doc.ic.ac.uk Mon Sep  2 21:33:16 EET 1991
From: kpt@doc.ic.ac.uk (Kevin Twidle)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
Subject: Re: Automated FTP
Date: 2 Sep 91 13:02:24 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing, Imperial College, London, England
Status: OR

In comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives, ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
[about /unix/ftp/autoftp3.zoo and /unix/ftp/bathcftp102.tar.Z]

    They are rather similar except that batchftp can be used to handle
    any site, and it has a generic command mode as an option.  Having
    used both I have opted for batchftp.  (In fact they are based on the
    same source code if I am not mistaken).

    Incidentally, I have often recommended using automated ftp to cut
    down the connection times.  The only danger is that automated FTP
    may increase indiscriminate downloading.  We can only hope that the
    users are sensible in this respect.

There is a perl package on src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.3.7) in
/archiving/mirror.shar which uses ftp to mirror a remote archive site.
It is very configurable and allows you to get files only if the date
or size has changed, time stamps local files to that of the remote
ones, gets files only if they are younger than so many days and many
other things.

It is really for archive maintainers but if you want to keep some
complete directories it can be very useful and will not pull files
needlessly. It only caters for remote Unix sites at the moment but
will have options for VMS "Real Soon Now".

Kevin
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 Email: kpt@doc.ic.ac.uk, kpt%uk.ac.ic.doc@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk, ..!ukc!icdoc!kpt
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From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Sep  3 12:45:53 1991
Subject: Re: SM13A.ZIP now also at garbo
To: chen@deakin.OZ.AU
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 91 12:45:53 EET DST
Cc: hv (Harri Valkama), w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen)
Status: OR

>
> thank you. Three text files COMMENT1.TXT, COMMENT2.TXT, and COMMENT3.TXT are
> ready now. Can you add them into SM13A.ZIP ? Sorry to trouble you again.
>
> -------------Cut here, COMMENT1.TXT ------------------
>
>       SymbMath 1.3B can solve the following problems #0 to #5, but cannot
> solve #6 (not output).

Hello,
   Thank you for the material.  I regret to have to tell you that I
don't want to do this quite the way you are asking.  Please let me
explain why.

1) Once we have a package at our site we don't want it altered
without a corresponding change in the package name like SM13A1.ZIP
or SM13B.ZIP.  Having significantly different versions with the same
name in circulation would just cause endless confusion.

2) I don't want to do the "pacthing" myself.  It is much better if
the author does it.  That way there won't be errors from my part.
Eg in this case I would have to decide on behalf of the author what
eolns to choose (Unix or PC), what datestamps would be suitable for
the new files, etc etc.

3) Building the packages anew always requires extra work, and help
as I would like, I have to ration my moderating time.  So someone
else has to do the package building.

I thus look forward to receiving an updated, renamed SM package for
general distribution.

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep  8 22:36:17 1991
Return-Path: <ts@uwasa.fi>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 91 22:36:17 +0300
From: Timo Salmi <ts@uwasa.fi>
To: ts
Subject: Re: TP v6.0 single key hits
Newsgroups: comp.lang.pascal
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Status: OR

In article <1531@ub.d.umn.edu> you write:
>
>   Hi, I am pretty much a beginner in terms of turbo pascal... (I have posted
>   quite a few other articles here...)  but how do you use ReadKey and
>   Keypressed (?)  to read in single keys without waiting for a return (I
>   want to write a game...)  Please email me some source code examples or
>   something around those lines...

Here is the basic principle as an example written on the fly (=
untested):

var key : char;
    out : boolean;
:
out := false;
repeat
  key := ReadKey;
  case key of
    #65 : WhatEverYouWantToDoWhenAisPressed;
    #66 : WhatEverYouWantToDoWhenBisPressed;
    #27 : out := true;  {Esc pressed}
    #0  : if KeyPressed then  {take care of the function keys}
            begin
              key := ReadKey;
              case key of
                #71 : YourRoutineWhenHomeIsPressed;
              end; {case}
            end; {if}
   end; {case}
until out;

You don't wait for "return".  Enter is just another key (ascii 13)
for the ReadKey function.

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Sep  9 10:00:00 1991
Subject: Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing system update at garbo.uwasa.fi
To: mjs@clemson.edu (Matthew Saltzman)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 91 10:00:00 EET DST
Status: OR

> In article <1991Sep8.063133.23535@uwasa.fi> you write:
> >Sun 8-Sep-91: Updated my graphical drawing system for linear
> >[deleted]
> >   The drawing program requires at least a CGA graphics adapter but
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> How about Hercules?
>
> >other than that there are no special requirements. The size of the
> >drawing program executable is about 90K.
> [deleted]
> >...................................................................
> >Prof. Timo Salmi
>
> Thanks
>
>               Matthew Saltzman
>               mjs@clemson.edu

Hello Matthew,
   I've never tested the program on a Hercules to see what actually
happens, but as far as I can tell my code in /pc/ts/tsdraw14.arc
will refuse to run in that case.

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Sep  9 18:57:01 1991
Subject: Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing system update at garbo.uwasa.fi
To: mjs@hubcap.clemson.edu (M. J. Saltzman)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 18:57:01 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9109091316.AA14918@hubcap.clemson.edu>; from "M. J. Saltzman" at Sep 9, 91 9:16 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

> Out of curiosity, what is this code written in?  Thanks.
>
>               mjs

Hello Matthew,
   As all my programs (except for the bacthes, of course) it is
written in Turbo Pascal 5.0.
   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Sep  9 19:23:01 1991
Subject: Re: Chen's mail server closed
To: MCNAMARA@TURING.SDC.TASC.COM
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 19:23:01 EET DST
Cc: rjc@math.princeton.edu (Raymond Chen)
Status: OR

> Prof. Salmi--
>
> I received the following message from Raymond Chen:
>
> >From: Raymond Chen <rjc@math.Princeton.EDU>
> >To: MCNAMARA@turing.sdc.tasc.com
> >Subject: the mail server is no longer operational
> >
> >has not been for quite some time.  Please inform whoever
> >gave you this address.  (And please CC: the mail to me
> >so I can add it to my records.)
>
> When I queried a defunct server listed in one of your help files.
> Extract follows; please make any corrections necessary.  Thank you.
>
> >From: ts@uwasa.fi
> >Subject: Looking for particular programs
> >Date: Thu 20 Jun 00:00:14 1991
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Please note the date.

> >
> >14. *****
> > Q: I am interested to know if there exists a program for such and
> >such purpose....
> >A3: To save you the trouble of downloading all of those files if all
> >you want is to search for one or two programs, you can use an index
> >SERVER MAINTAINED BY RAYMOND CHEN (RJC@MATH.PRINCETON.EDU)....
>
> --Jim McNamara

Hello Jim,
  Thank you for your feedback.  It is always welcome and solicited.
It seems to me that you have an old version of my help files.  If
you got it from /pc/pd2 directory then the version at the present is
pd2ans041.txt, and the reference to Raymond's former server is no
longer there.  The help files are updated rather frequently, and
thus it is advisable always to get an up-to-date version.
   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Sep  9 19:57:33 1991
Subject: Re: TSDRAW14.ARC graphics drawing system update at garbo.uwasa.fi
To: mjs@hubcap.clemson.edu (M. J. Saltzman)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 19:57:33 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9109091639.AA26173@hubcap.clemson.edu>; from "M. J. Saltzman" at Sep 9, 91 12:39 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

> Prof. Salmi:
>
> I don't wish to be a pest, but my next question would be: How do you

No problem, Matthew.  This interests me too, and your questions are
welcome.

> support the BGI interface?  In Turbo C, you can either supply the BGI
> files separately or link them into your code.  If you link them in,

I always link them into the executable.  That way no separate files
are needed to run my graphics programs.

> you could potentially support Hercules cards, as there *is* a BGI file

This is quite true.  What I have chosen to do is only to link the
cga .bgi driver into DRAWLINE.EXE to keep the program smaller.
There is noting in principle that would technically prevent
including a hercules driver since Turbo Pascal seems to include a
herc.bgi.

> for them (and if not, you could just distribute all the BGI files).
> I don't know how the colors would work out, but in this case it seems
> that as long as lines show up as light or bold on a dark background,
> that would be enough.

I am afraid that much preprogramming would be necessary, the code
would grow, and it would require a PC with Hercules handy for
testing.  The way I see this is that on the modern PC scene one can
assume at least an EGA, and all my later graphics programs actually
need at least a color EGA.  Thus I have decided not to support a
Hercules, and in my later graphics programs not even a CGA.

> Thanks again, and sorry to keep taking your time....

As I said, this was welcome.

>                       M. Saltzman

All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Sep 10 08:26:57 1991
Subject: Re: Converting text formats
To: DLEWIS@SCUACC.SCU.EDU
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 8:26:57 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <2BAEFEE660001A82@SCU.BITNET>; from "DLEWIS@SCUACC.SCU.EDU" at Sep 9, 91 12:46 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

> Timo,
>
> I have a friend who has a lot of word processing files that were created
> with an old word processor called Easy Writer.  He's looking for a program
> to convert these files to his new PFS Professional Write processor.  Although
> the latter has an "import" utility, it doesn't support Easy Writer formats.
> I've looked everywhere trying to find a conversion program that can read
> Easy Writer formats, but with no success.  Do you know of one?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan Lewis

Hello Dan,
   I don't have an outright answer, since I am not familiar with the
Easy Writer format.  But the FILGEN.EXE program might (or might not)
be of some help here.  If this does not help, the next step for him
is to scan the garbo.uwasa.fi and SIMTEL20 file lists and/or pose
the question to comp.editors.

/pc/ts/tsfltb14.arc    Build your own filters, T.Salmi
Filename        Comment                             Date      Time
--------        --------------------------------    ----      ----
DEMOTXT.XLT     How to build a translation table  08-04-91  11:04:16
FILBIN.EXE      General filter for binary files   08-05-89  11:55:32
FILGEN.EXE      Generalized filter for any file   08-06-91  11:28:40
FILTXT.EXE      General filter for text files     08-05-89  12:01:28
LOWER.XLT       To lowercase, also foreign chars  03-25-89  15:52:24
NOEOF.XLT       Enables reading text past eof     08-04-91  11:05:06
PC2UNIX.XLT     PC newlines to Unix newlines      08-04-91  11:01:44
SIMUL8.XLT      8-bit to look-alike 7-bit chars   07-04-89  23:55:02
STRIP.XLT       Strip the high bit of 8bit chars  07-04-89  21:21:02
TOASC.XLT       Scandinavian IBM to ASCII         03-23-89  18:39:22
TOIBM.XLT       Scandinavian ASCII to IBM         03-23-89  18:41:34
TSFLTB.INF      Document                          08-07-91  11:36:50
TSFLTB.NWS      News accouncements about tsfltb   08-07-91  11:42:24
TSPROG.INF      List of programs from T.Salmi     07-30-91  23:11:54
UNIX2PC.XLT     Unix newlines to PC newlines      08-04-91  11:01:40
UPPER.XLT       To uppercase, also foreign chars  03-25-89  15:45:46
VAASA.INF       Info: Finland, Vaasa, U of Vaasa  02-02-90  11:52:54
----            ------             ------  -----
0017            105922              73052   32%

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep 15 08:47:46 1991
Subject: Re: Quick login with anon-ftp
To: henkp@cs.ruu.nl (Henk P Penning)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 91 8:47:46 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9109142333.AA17941@alchemy.cs.ruu.nl>; from "Henk P Penning" at Sep 15, 91 1:33 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

> >Have you considered using automated FTP /unix/ftp/batchftp102.tar.Z.
> >It is convenient anyway.  Diminishes both the load and the users
> >aggravation once one gets it installed.
>
>   I just ftp'ed the stuff.
>
>   No 'Makefile', no 'README', no 'batchftp.man'.
>   Not portable to hp/ux.
>   So, not very convenient to install.
>
>   Thanks for the reference anyway.            ===  HenkP  ===
>
> --
> Henk P. Penning, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University.
> Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands.
> Telephone: +31-30-534106
> e-mail   : henkp@cs.ruu.nl (uucp to hp4nl!ruuinf!henkp)

Hello Henk,
   The make is not really a problem.  Besides the package does
contain a batchftp.doc.  It does not always have to be called README
or *.man.  But you are right.  The portability issue naturally is a
bad problem.  I should have mentionioned this.  However, that really
is the author's dilemma.  There is nothing I can do about it.  But
why not try to contact the author directly about that if his name
can be found in the docs.  It would be very worthwhile to have it
properly portable outside BSD.  (P.S. Did you try to compile it on
hp/ux?)
   Anyway here is how to process batchftp on BSD Unix:

uncompress batcftp102.tar
tar -xvf batchftp102.tar

and directly from the batchftp.doc if one cares to take a look:

 III. COMPILATION

 Batchftp consists of a single C program, and it
 does not need to linked with additional libraries.  The
 name of the executable file does not matter. An example
 would be:
   cc batchftp.c -o batchftp

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu Wed Sep 17 21:41:15 1991
Article: 439 of comp.archives.admin
From: w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.archives.admin
Subject: SIMTEL20 task terminated
Date: 17 Sep 91 21:41:15 GMT
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Status: OR

My task of maintaining the WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL archives will be
terminated effective September 30, 1991 because there is no funding
for it in the fiscal year 1992 budget which begins on October 1st.
There will be no one to catalog the MS-DOS, CP/M and MISC repositories
or to accept and review new files.  My last work day was yesterday
because I am on vacation until the end of the month.

I am now actively seeking new permanent employment.

Questions about the SIMTEL20 archives or problems with FTP should be
directed to Action@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL.

Keith
--
Keith Petersen
Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20]
Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil    or     w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                          BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND


From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep 22 20:58:37 1991
Subject: Re: Your spell.exe program
To: hardy@lucid.com
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 91 20:58:37 EET DST
In-Reply-To: <9109221558.AA05985@challenger>; from "Bob Hardy" at Sep 22, 91 8:58 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

[Bob sent me words to add to my spelled3.dny dictionary for my spell.exe]
> Great!  I'm glad you find it useful.  If I might make a suggestion for
> future releases... one thing that makes it harder to expand the
> dictionary is the way the program breaks when the sort is bad.  I
> don't expect you to try to fix the problems inherent in sorting large
> files under DOS, but how about having SPELL.EXE include in its output
> the point in the dictionary file where it found breakage in the sort
> order?  Something along the lines of "clamdip -- dictionary file order
> invalid at or near this word".  Then a mis-sorted dictionary file
> would be much easier to fix, with Epsilon or VEDIT, or some other
> editor that permits BIG files.  The program already knows when it hits
> a bad sort, it just doesn't report where it was when that happened,
> making correction much more difficult.

Hello Bob,
   This is a good suggestion, and I'll be looking into it.  The way
to solve this problem is that I have to write a separate program for
finding the offending breakage point.  Since my spell.exe in
/pc/ts/tschek13.arc goes trough the dictionary with a binary sort
algorithm, it is better to have it just to announce that there is an
error, and say that to find where the error is please use the
separate order checking program.  I'll just have to come up with a
suitable name for it (the hard part of the exercise :-).  The rest
should be trivial.  Yes, thanks for the idea.
   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun



From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Sep 27 09:01:49 EET 1991
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
To: garbo questions
Subject: Harri, not Timo, is garbo system manager
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 91 05:58:49 GMT
Status: OR

Our gentle users often confuse archive maintenance and system
management of garbo.uwasa.fi.  Therefore, please note the following.
Queries on connectivity problems that you might experience in using
garbo.uwawsa.fi archives are best directed to my fellow moderator
Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi.  My function at garbo is archive
moderation.  Mainly that means selecting programs for our MsDos
archives, and taking care of our international publicity.  I do not
system manage garbo, the computer.  Harri does that part.  He also
moderates the other sections of our archives.  (The MsDos section is
moderated jointly by us).

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun



From ts@uwasa.fi Sun Sep 29 22:56:05 1991
Subject: CBIP newsgroups charter
To: CBIP readers
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 91 22:56:05 EET
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

This is the charter of the comp.binaries.ibm.pc discussion
subgroups.  The charter took effect the 23rd of July, 1991, and is
edited from Bob Sloane's original posting on the cbip
reorganization.  Please contact your system manager if you are not
getting the new subgroups.

comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
  The existing comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d is to be used for discussions about
  the actual programs posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc, such as bug reports
  (but not articles about missing parts) or requests about how to use the
  programs.

comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted:
  This group is to be used to post requests/replies concerning where to
  find ibm pc or compatible programs.  Topics would include requests for
  missing parts of binaries posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc and requests
  for specific programs.

comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives:
  This group is to be used to post announcements related to archive sites
  for ibm pc and compatible binary files.  Appropriate articles would
  include such topics as announcements of new binaries available,
  connectivity problems with archive sites, and bug/problem reports
  concerning programs from archive sites. Requests concerning where
  particular programs are available would not be appropriate, and should
  be posted to the c.b.i.p.wanted group instead.

------------- Further directions from Timo ------------------------
If your subject is not covered at all in the cbip discussion
subgroups then you should search for a suitable alternative
newsgroup.  It is not possible to give fool-proof all-round advice
on the alternatives, but it would seem that fairly often one of the
groups below might turn out to be suitable:
  comp.os.msdos.apps
  comp.os.msdos.misc
  comp.os.msdos.programmer
  comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
  comp.editors
  comp.graphics
  comp.sources.wanted
  comp.windows.mics
  news.newusers.questions
  misc.books.technical
-------------------------------------------------------------------
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Prof. Timo Salmi
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School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Oct  1 13:17:18 1991
Subject: Re: tscheck14
To: Marek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se (Marek Repinski)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 91 13:17:18 EET
In-Reply-To: <9110010930.AA20808@eos.ericsson.se>; from "Marek Repinski" at Oct 1, 91 10:30 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

> Hi Timo.

Hello Marek,

> First I like to give you a compliment for your work on GARBO.
> Great work. I and many of my users are greatful for easy access to
> GARBO's many PD programs.

The great majority seem to like it, and often give a word of thanks
like you do.  I very much appreciate this.  But of course there
always has to be also a few of misfits with no pespective who just
complain about my activies in the net without ever contributing
anything themselves.

> I was looking for a swedish spellchecker. But all I've found had problems
> our 3 special characters. They ignored ascii characters over 127.
> The I found yours (?) tschek14. It looked as it worked. But when I tried
> with my "big" swedish dictionary (45.000 word) I got this message :
>
>  FATAL ERROR IN DICTIONARY "dictionary name"
>  CHECK ITS ALPHABETICAL ORDER NEAR "word"
>
> Is it the same problem as in the passed spellcheckers ?
> Or is the dictionary to big ? (The word it complain about is about line 700)

The answer is yes on both accounts.  The nonregistered version of my
spell in garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/ts/tschek14.arc is limited to a 20000
word dictionary.  But this is not the actual problem for you.  The
problem is that my spell only supports the English alphabet.  This
is intentional, since including the other languages would complicate
the program quite a lot.  This is because the sorting algorithms
would have to be rewritten to be compatible with non-English
characters.  Besides the work, it would slow the program.  There is
also the further problem of inflections, since in Finnish and
Swedish one would have to account for them to keep the program
useful.  In Swedish (jag talar ocksa svenska, men inte so bra som
engelska) the problem is not as bad in Finnish.  In Finnish it would
be really complicated.

> That is the max size of dictionary in tscheck14 ?

For the non-registered version 20000 words.  Registered version has
no limit except that with a very big dictionary the checking takes
longer and longer.  The only limitation is that the file to be
checked is not allowed to have more than 8000 _different_ words.
Other than that the size of the file to be checked is not limited,
but checking a file of over 100K begins to take patience with slower
computers.  (This is true for all spelling checkers).

> Do you know any swedish spellcheckers ?

No.  To come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard of
non-commercial Swedish (nor Finnish) spelling checkers.

>  Thanks in advance
>  Marek
>
>   Marek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Wed Oct  2 20:28:59 1991
Subject: Re: tschek14 again
To: Marek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se (Marek Repinski)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 91 20:28:59 EET
In-Reply-To: <9110021020.AA08038@eos.ericsson.se>; from "Marek Repinski" at Oct 2, 91 11:20 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

> Hello again !
>
> I'am the one who asked you some questions about tscheck14 and Swedish
> characters.
>
> I have one more :
> If your program can't ascii characters over 127, I thought "why not make
> a filter that convert the Swedish characters to ascii 91,92,93 and
> 123,124,125". But tschek14 ignored those charcters aswell.

This is a good idea.

> My question is :
> Can you (if you have the source code and if it's not too much trouble)
> change the code to accept these characters, recompile and send spell.exe
> to me. (I understand that you can't send me the source code to me because
> tschek14 is a shareware).

Sorry.  I do not operate quite this way.  If I decide to write a
special (Swedish or any other) version based on your good
suggestion, I'll make the version publicly available in the usual
way.  When and if anyone wants me to tailor a program as an
individual customized version, I would consider that a consultation
assignment, and would charge accordingly.

> I understand if you don't have the time for this kind of thing.

As I said, it a suggestion well worth considering.  I won't promise
anything, but I'll keep it in mind.

> But please reply anyway.
>
>  /Marek
>  Marek.Repinski@eos.ericsson.se

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From ts@uwasa.fi Fri Oct  4 12:14:00 1991
Subject: Re: TYPEVADE game
To: olympia!martin@geovision.gvc.com (Martin Taylor (C))
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 12:14:00 EET
In-Reply-To: <9110031814.AA37619@olympia.alb.gvc.com>; from "Martin Taylor (C)" at Oct 3, 91 2:14 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>
> Prof. Timo,

Hi Martin,

> I recently downloaded your TYPEVADE typing game from SIMTEL20
> via uunet!vm1.nodak.edu!listserv and have been having a little trouble
> running it.  I have a PC/XT clone with a Hercules Monographics compatible
> video card.  When run, TYPEVADE says that it needs CGA, so I ran the
> TSR CGA simulator (SIMCGA).  This works for most CGA programs but
> I think there is a problem since TYPEVADE uses direct video access.

You are exactly right.

> The visual result is that the letters appear in the left column of
> the display and never move to the right as I understand they are supposed
> to do.  Eventually the game ends with the decreasing boxes but the
> player has no way of telling how far the letters have got.
>
> Since this is a text only program I see no reason for the CGA requirement.
> Do you have any other version of this program available that uses
> monochrome text or supports Hercules graphics?  My two children (ages
> 9 and 11) are both keyboard skills at school and I think this program
> would be a good way to let them practice at home.

The problem naturally stems from my code, but unfortunately it is
very difficult to do anything about it.  For one thing this results
from the fact that I only test by programs with a machine with a VGA
adapter.  In fact my later games, and graphics programs require that
the user must have at least an EGA.  Sorry.

> Thank you for your assistance,
> --
> Martin Taylor
> mtaylor@olympia.alb.gvc.com     | As a contractor, only *I* own my opinions.
> uunet!geovision!olympia!mtaylor | However, anyone can rent them for a fee.

   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

From hh@macavity.uwasa.fi Fri Oct  4 12:41:28 1991
From: Hannu Hirvonen <hh@macavity.uwasa.fi>
Subject: Re: host name problems
To: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 91 10:41:27 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9]
Status: OR


> First, when I log on as 'anonymous' I receive this message about my
> host name being unknown.  How do I fix the problem? What IS the
> problem? My hostIP is 129.59.100.53 and the prompt I see when logged
> on is "jem@cee1".  Is cee1 the host name? If not, is there a simple
> way to find out what it is? If that IS my host name, is telling you
> this enough or need I do something else to ensure continued access
> to your system? I normally log in from a remote PC with an Internet
> address of 129.59.100.122.  I don't know if that is significant or
> not.

The message means that your host (129.59.100.122) is not known to
any internet nameserver, and therefore our server is unable to
register your call.  (i just confirmed this, and saw, that your
domain is registered (Vanderbilt.Edu), but i can resolve neither of
your numeric addresses.  the hostnames and their addresses must be
registerd with the nameserver of your domain (net.....) if you want
this to be donw, ask Xxxxxx Xxxxx (xxxxxx@net......) -- he is listed
as your domain contact.

--
    Hannu Hirvonen, Computer Centre, U of Vaasa  !  P.O. BOX 297
    hh@uwasa.fi, HIRVONEN@FINFUN.bitnet          !  SF-65101 Vaasa, Finland

From ts@uwasa.fi Tue Oct  8 06:06:11 1991
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR PSK.EXE
To: TURNERJ@CPVA.SAIC.COM (JAMES TURNER 703-821-4622)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 6:06:11 EET
In-Reply-To: <911007154634.23a00ed5@CPVA.SAIC.COM>; from "JAMES TURNER, 703-821-4622" at Oct 7, 91 3:46 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>
> Timo Salmi -
>
> Just a brief note to thank you for showing me a way around my printscreen
> hassle.  PSK.EXE does the trick.
>
> Bye -
>
> James T.
> TRUNERJ@CPVA.SAIC.COM

Hello James,
   Thank you for your note.  I am always pleased to hear from users
who have found my utilities of use.  User feedback is part of the
motivation in my the role of garbo.uwasa.fi archive moderation.
   All the best, Timo

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.87.1
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun


From hh@macavity.uwasa.fi Tue Oct  8 13:25:04 1991
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From: Hannu Hirvonen <hh@macavity.uwasa.fi>
Message-Id: <9110081123.AA10631@macavity.uwasa.fi>
Subject: Re: JANET & garbo
To: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 91 11:23:47 GMT
Cc: cs89rdb@brunel.ac.uk, hv@chyde.uwasa.fi, hh@chyde.uwasa.fi
In-Reply-To: <9110081115.AA25002@uwasa.fi>; from "Timo Salmi" at Oct 8, 91 1:15 pm
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> > I don't know if you know, but JANET (the UK academic network) has just been
> > connected to the internet and as such we now have worldwide access.  I don't
> > know how exactly it is done, but it is via an X.25 server in London.

congratulations ! how good is the response time ? can you run ping to
obtain some statistics ?

> > I tried to connect to garbo and got the following message:

> > 220-We cannot map your network address to a hostname, if this
> > 220 isn't fixed soon, access from your host will be unavailable.

it seems that either your network is not (yet) registered with any
known nameserver, or your dedicated nameserver is not known or
accessible from here. this is something for the higher powers to see
to. you and me, we just get to watch the fun. don't be overly alarmed
by garbo not being able to resolve your address, it happens every now
and then between regular internet hosts also. can you access any
nameservers from your computer ?

--
    Hannu Hirvonen, Computer Centre, U of Vaasa  !  P.O. BOX 297
    hh@uwasa.fi, HIRVONEN@FINFUN.bitnet          !  SF-65101 Vaasa, Finland

From bjurczyn@lonestar.utsa.edu Wed Oct  9 08:56:49 1991
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From: bjurczyn@lonestar.utsa.edu (Bill T. Jurczyn)
Message-Id: <9110090658.AA15477@lonestar.utsa.edu>
To: ts@uwasa.fi
Subject: Re: integer programming software
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
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Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Status: OR

Timo,

    I've seen numerous postings come up recently on mathematical
software.  Surely, eveybody and their brother writes some these
days, but in doing a search of sources I found that the University
of Kent maintains an exhaustive archive in this field.  Their forte
is distribution of mathematical software by electronic mail.  I
obtained operating instructions and a quick summary of their
top-level index with the following message:

        (address line, to:)         netlib@ukc.ac.uk
        (message body)              help

Their netlib software was originally devised and implemented at the
Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois, and at AT&T Bell
Laboratories, Murry Hill, New Jersey.  Presently, its maintained at
Kent by Dr.  Tim Hopkins and Maggie Bowman.  It belongs to the
class: trickle mail servers.

The information for this search came from Massachusetts Institute of
Technology (MIT).  (re postings: 423 of alt.sources.wanted and 1791
of comp.sources.wanted)

Kent supports ni-ftp, though I can't readily find their IP number in
Jon Granroses' FTP list.

I'm sure this probably rings a familiar bell.  But, I'm sending this
message along in case you're keeping a scrap book of tidbits and
snippets of information that are worth passing on every once in a
while.

Bill T. Jurczyn
University of Texas at San Antonio
bjurczyn@lonestar.utsa.edu

