Is wanting to try an ARM server? reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- duckofdeath87 · 2023-12-25 16:35 That's a lot of power for 23w. I am really hoping for an ATX form factor I would love to know how many concurrent streams it can encode in hardware https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite- looks-like-the-windows-worlds-answer-to-apple-silicon/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mirokra · 2023-12-25 16:59 Windows world,... not really a hosting platform. If it arrives in miniPC supporting Linux, or embedded in mini-ITX boards, it will be interesting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rolyantrauts · 2023-12-25 17:07 That is dependent on the hardware encoder that is a seperate piece of silicon embedded into the Soc.The rk3588(s) have a decoder that can do x16 1080p concurrent but not sure what the max encode is, I guess will be less. What I am saying is that likely the snapdragon SoC will also have an encode / decode silicon that is vastly more efficient than the CPU.A docker swarm of lower end SBC using silicon encoders likely $/streams could be cheaper and also scalable. Where you don't have custom silicon solutions for say running LLMs in a similar way that apple does with its unified hardware at 23watt would be interesting, but as far as I know we still have not seen a price of any available hardware... RiscV also could be an interesting destination as the mobo price of the [https://forum.sophgo.com/t/about-the-sg2380-oasis- category/359](https://forum.sophgo.com/t/about-the-sg2380-oasis- category/359) is supposedly $120 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- duckofdeath87 · 2023-12-25 17:11 I'm really hoping for an itx or atx. I don't see why Linux wouldn't work on it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- duckofdeath87 · 2023-12-25 17:13 I'm very excited for RISC V. I keep thinking that it is too early, but i suppose the reality is looking like it will mature before we get ATX/ITX arm with enough PCIE slots to be useful ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rolyantrauts · 2023-12-25 17:32 We sort of have as Apple Arm silicon strangely for Apple isn't that badly priced as do you need wattage draining GPUs when its all part of a single unified hardware. The soldered on Ram & NVME is my most hated aspect of Apples current range. If it wasn't for that my usual aversion to Apple would be vanquished and likely make me a Mini owner. Strangely the best thing for RiscV has been the CHIPS act as China is going to be very cautious of any IP that can be used in a tradewar and likely is investing heavily already in opensource hardware. [https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/10/21/sophgo-sg2380-16-core- sifive-p670-risc-v-processor-20-tops-ai-accelerator/](https://www.cnx- software.com/2023/10/21/sophgo-sg2380-16-core-sifive-p670-risc-v- processor-20-tops-ai-accelerator/) is still some months off but for $120 my curiosity will likely take the plunge of an early adopter. Likely there are a lot of China fabless holding fire on further Arm designs and long term the CHIPS act likely will hurt Arm more than China. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Agile_Ad_2073 · 2023-12-25 17:40 Most of us are running arm servers already ;) I'm sure that it's not hard to port stuff to this processor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mirokra · 2023-12-25 18:47 Don't some/many/all(?) ARM SoCs need some special drivers or patched kernel? Or, something like that,...? I've never tried any ARM device, though. Only regular BIOS/UEFI motherboards and Arduino. However, I saw some threads about driver/compatibility issues about custom Android ROMs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- duckofdeath87 · 2023-12-25 18:48 You need a Linux distro that supports the hardware. Raspberry PIs are pretty common ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lidstah · 2023-12-25 20:22 From what I read about these SoCs (and from the qualcomm's benchmarks presentation which explicitly mentionned Linux benchmarks), they seem to be supported almost out of the box. I'd like to see standard form-factor motherboards with old fashioned sockets and a non-soldered CPU, like our good ol' x86 desktops - so we could at least upgrade only the CPU, reducing the waste, when we need more power... Right now - correct me if I'm wrong - but the only socketed ARM CPUs I can think of are Ampere Altra series, and they are clearly in another league (and budget!) than consumer grade ARM CPUs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mirokra · 2023-12-25 21:30 > old fashioned sockets and a non-soldered CPU, like our good ol' x86 desktops - so we could at least upgrade only the CPU, reducing the waste, when we need more power I've never upgraded CPU, because a new socket was released in the mean time, and new DDR version, too. However, I always like ability to compose according to needs - pick motherboard with features I need, and CPU with power I need. Though, if motherboard with embedded CPU would meet need for given system, it's okay too. However, relatability is worse - worth the risk only for low power and cheap systems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mirokra · 2023-12-25 21:35 Raspberry PI is not exactly designed as a server machine. It's great board for DIY devices and prototyping, but not for a server. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- duckofdeath87 · 2023-12-25 22:48 Linux works great on it though Really wish I could get that power efficiency with more IO and the performance Qualcomm is showing here in an ITX/ATX form factor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kmisterk · 2023-12-25 23:17 ## Post Removed Hey, duckofdeath87! Thanks for your submission on selfhosted. 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