Cheapest Cloud providers for self hosting reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EW_IO · 2023-12-09 10:20 I have always used Azure in my work, but azure is very expensive. I only want to host firefly3 and in the future bitwarden. A vps/VM that supports nested virtualization would better to have more flixebility in the future. What cloud providers that offer such requirements at a cheap price. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- arcadianarcadian · 2023-12-09 10:35 Hetzner Netcup ---------------------------------------------------------------------- violet-crayola · 2023-12-09 10:40 Racknerd/greencloud. Lowentalk - see ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ForeheadMeetScope · 2023-12-09 11:16 Cloud != Selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gaz_95 · 2023-12-09 11:34 I really wish people would stop with this bullshit. 1. It's not helpful to anyone saying this and could discourage people by making them feel like they are not good enough 2. Not everyone has the internet bandwidth or the hardware to run a machine at home 3. What would you call hosting something like bitwarden or firefly3 yourself on rented hardware then? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AhmedBarayez · 2023-12-09 11:35 OCI, i've used it for the past 1.5 years, and it's wonderful, very cheap but kinda complicated ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NotTryingToConYou · 2023-12-09 11:36 Selfhosting means hosting something yourself. Doesn't matter if you do it on a cloud or a homelab. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NotTryingToConYou · 2023-12-09 11:36 I like hetzner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PhilipLGriffiths88 · 2023-12-09 11:41 This. Same. Just make sure you log in every week or so and do backups. If you don't, they may nuke your VM. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dahaka88 · 2023-12-09 11:59 blackfriday lowendtalk I got a 7$/year 2cpu/2gb ram/60gb hdd. more than satisfied, easily runs over 20 containers including *arr suite. the catch: you share ip with multiple accounts and you have only a range of public ports available ---------------------------------------------------------------------- padamdam · 2023-12-09 12:11 Contabo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- red-avtovo · 2023-12-09 12:23 Kimsufi was a good option, but it is no longer available as a separate hosting. Try going to OVH and filter kimsufi instances Best bare metal offer you can ever find ---------------------------------------------------------------------- finlan101 · 2023-12-09 12:24 Linode is good, OCI has a good free tier, especially if you can go arm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rUbberDucky1984 · 2023-12-09 12:44 I run kubernetes on oracle cloud free tier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- malvim · 2023-12-09 12:44 Agreed. Cloud is DEFINITELY self hosted. Also, most of us deal with CGNAT at home and that has its own set of issues that makes homelabs that much harder to access from outside. Self hosting on someone else’s hardware is still self hosting, and valid as fuck. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- r3dk0w · 2023-12-09 12:48 If you're hosting only containers, have you thought about just running the container in the provider instead of a full VM/VPS? Just about all providers offer some kind of container hosting service, and the prices are much cheaper than a full VM. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TheDiaryofaSoyBean · 2023-12-09 12:57 Ionos is good, 4 core 8 gigs of ram for 15/month for the first 6 months then after I think it’s $25 a month ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NeoCGS · 2023-12-09 13:18 >may nuke your VM TF? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Inside-Imagination14 · 2023-12-09 13:20 Hostinger vps are a really good deal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nixblu · 2023-12-09 13:28 Take a look on lowendtalk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EquivalentBrief6600 · 2023-12-09 13:44 Ovh ---------------------------------------------------------------------- madpork · 2023-12-09 13:55 RackNerd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tidaaaakk · 2023-12-09 14:08 vultr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- traxo · 2023-12-09 14:09 I think that can only happen to VMs that you don't pay for because they're part of the free tier. Still annoying, though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- peacefulshrimp · 2023-12-09 14:29 Oracle Cloud free tier is good for most self hosting uses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- igoooor · 2023-12-09 14:34 This is what you are looking for. Free VM with 4core and 24gb of memory and 200Gb of storage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NeoCGS · 2023-12-09 14:39 Ah, that makes more sense. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sebampueromori · 2023-12-09 14:43 Oracle free tier arm version ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DayshareLP · 2023-12-09 14:54 Strato has a 1€ server. And of course at home. (At an specific scale) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Zealousideal-Fan-696 · 2023-12-09 15:13 Moi j’ai un vpn sur pulseheberg https://pulseheberg.com/cloud/vps-storage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1amTimon · 2023-12-09 15:34 >OCI Does this allow to install docker? currently I have Actual budget running in my laptop. Can this be used for it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- another-new-user · 2023-12-09 15:35 Greencloud ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sebampueromori · 2023-12-09 15:53 Yes why wouldn't it be allowed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- untilthewhale · 2023-12-09 16:00 If we use *arr suite with torrent without vpn, any chances of getting banned? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CAP_NET_ADMIN · 2023-12-09 16:05 Contabo, Hetzner, OVH, Netcup ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GenerousAccord · 2023-12-09 16:26 I use OCI as a PAYG user but zero costs because I use always free resources. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CaptainFluffyTail · 2023-12-09 16:37 If you fall below a certain usage threshold the resources may be reclaimed. Depends on how in-demand a particular data center is and if it is running our of resources. The threshold is something really low, like 5% a month or something if I recall. Basic maintenance passes the threshold. It really just cleans up zombie resources that people have likely forgotten about. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ency · 2023-12-09 16:43 Big fan of Hetzner. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NeoCGS · 2023-12-09 16:46 Hmm, okay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NetscapeNavigat0r · 2023-12-09 16:46 GCP lets you run a e2-micro for free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CaptainFluffyTail · 2023-12-09 16:48 I found the reference and added it as an edit. It isn't much of a restriction, just something to be aware of. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nonlogin · 2023-12-09 17:10 VPS AG, OVH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jeeverz · 2023-12-09 17:12 > OCI Overseas Citizenship of India? ^^^JustKidding ---------------------------------------------------------------------- flavius-as · 2023-12-09 17:19 Who doesn't. Predictable pricing, good performance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Global-Orange-8423 · 2023-12-09 17:41 Absolutely Netcup, but there is no AVX/AVX2 Support that you need for MongoDB for example. Hetzner does it without a problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- oriongr · 2023-12-09 17:42 Check out this [https://www.ionos.co.uk](https://www.ionos.co.uk) their VPS Linux XS is 1 euro/pound per month. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EW_IO · 2023-12-09 17:46 Just tried using Contabo, they held the provision until I pass a verification step (passport scan, ID, etc). Do all service providers ask for this?? Not so down to the idea of providing too much info to foreign company. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tenten8401 · 2023-12-09 17:53 I've been with Hetzner for 4-5 years and no issues :) Used to rent dedicated servers from their auctions too, amazing performance per dollar over there ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tenten8401 · 2023-12-09 17:55 I'd pass on Contabo, the performance was really unpredictable the last time I tried it but maybe they've improved since then. I was trying to host game servers but Hetzner ended up being a lot better ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tech_medic_five · 2023-12-09 18:04 Anyone using AWS lightsail besides me or apparently not a great option? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KervyN · 2023-12-09 18:17 You want the dollar store thing? noez.de Had that a couple years ago. I had worse experiences, but the price makes you accept some things, like customer support that requires some training by customers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Renkin42 · 2023-12-09 18:21 Holy crap! I’ve heard mention of their free tier but avoided it because…Oracle. But if they’re really offering that kind of horsepower for free I need to reconsider. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LidgChris · 2023-12-09 18:36 I’ve heard horror stories of folks randomly having their data/account purged with oracle. I only played with it briefly so i can’t speak much on it, so it’s all heresy. But it has been a lot of people I’ve heard about it happening to. I guess at the end of the day. Maybe you shouldn’t trust any critical data with a free service anyway, though i have nothing to support my thoughts on it outside of it feeling risky ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dahaka88 · 2023-12-09 18:44 that’s another topic, just saying *it works* with the low $ amount ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moquito64 · 2023-12-09 18:46 This happened to me. I had a teleport endpoint running on their free tier and my vm/account/data was just randomly wiped. I got one email stating that my account was legacy and would be purged with no real reason why. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KervyN · 2023-12-09 18:52 Hetzner is really good. And they keep their networks clean. You start spamming/scanning/illegal stuff? You get an email and your IPs are blocked. Then you have to talk to their support to get your case solved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rocsci · 2023-12-09 19:01 Apologize upfront for not answering your question, but wanted to say that I have bitwarden and few other services running in docker containers in my home dekstop. I installed tailscale on that machine and tailscale clients in my phone and other devices id like to access bitwarden from. Don't need any cloud hosting, not port forwarding. Your use case might be different. But wanted to throw this out there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LidgChris · 2023-12-09 19:09 Do they just put a time limit on the account? Hits a year or two and “well you have a legacy account so we are going to transition you into the not having an account tier effective immediately” ---------------------------------------------------------------------- caffeine947 · 2023-12-09 19:11 Yeah I hate oracle but the free tier is awesome. Not worth paying for any of their other services though ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DigitalWhitewater · 2023-12-09 19:12 Lightsail on AWS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nick_ian · 2023-12-09 19:46 I've used Digital Ocean for years, even for a mail server. It's been good. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cedum · 2023-12-09 19:52 Unfortunately, they’re quite unreliable even for personal projects. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AMGraduate564 · 2023-12-09 20:04 Give CIVO a look, it's cheap! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jimmygle · 2023-12-09 20:12 I got in on the RackNerd Black Friday deal. Have never seen a deal that good. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CompetitiveYam6697 · 2023-12-09 20:20 Yeah if only they fix their stupid payment verification and let people sign up ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AFatalErrror · 2023-12-09 20:28 Vultr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HoushouCoder · 2023-12-09 21:03 I was planning on moving to Contabo once my Azure credits run out, but this seems troublesome. Could you elaborate on this problem? Providing such personal information would be a deal-breaker for me as well. Is it country-specific? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- txmail · 2023-12-09 21:20 BuyVM if you want a paid product that is pretty good. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ISeekGirls · 2023-12-09 21:35 Vultr $2.50 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thecodeassassin · 2023-12-09 21:47 I thought I was alone here. Contabo has been so much worse than Hetzner for me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thecodeassassin · 2023-12-09 21:48 The only thing I don't like about Hetzner is their vSwitch. It has so much downtime, i had to open ports on my servers and use the public interface because it got real bad. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Varnish6588 · 2023-12-09 21:51 Try Akash network. they are disrupting the market at the moment, and it's very similar to Heroku but half of the price. I use a terraform provider to deploy in there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Varnish6588 · 2023-12-09 21:52 this is interesting. thanks for this suggestion. do you know if they are in Sydney region? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- finlan101 · 2023-12-09 21:54 Yep sure are ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Service-Kitchen · 2023-12-09 22:05 What is vswitch? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thecodeassassin · 2023-12-09 22:05 https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/vswitch/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- juanfdo82465 · 2023-12-09 22:07 This is the way ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok_Size1748 · 2023-12-09 22:12 Contabo VPS are oversuscribed and i/o starved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodebunny · 2023-12-09 22:27 wdym ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodebunny · 2023-12-09 22:31 Oracle Cloud. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodebunny · 2023-12-09 22:31 explalin to noobs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodebunny · 2023-12-09 22:34 which one do you recommend ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ClayGarth · 2023-12-09 22:38 Check out [ServerHunter](https://www.serverhunter.com/) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PirateParley · 2023-12-09 22:50 I tried few times and I gave up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jimmygle · 2023-12-09 22:54 Depends on your needs. I got the 2.5g ram plan for $25/yr on the sale. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr0id_ · 2023-12-09 22:55 DigitalOcean ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- icebalm · 2023-12-09 23:33 lowendbox.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DrewbaccaWins · 2023-12-10 00:09 > heresy hearsay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LidgChris · 2023-12-10 00:14 Must have missed the A and had Apple decide what i meant for me. Luckily, 100% of those who read it probably understood what it should have been. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SrIzan10 · 2023-12-10 00:47 I haven’t had any problems running a vpn server. cheap for what they offer but I should take a look at hetzner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SrIzan10 · 2023-12-10 00:48 linode is kinda expensive imho ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheerpython · 2023-12-10 01:04 I have had the worst experience with some netcup servers. Servers just simply lagging out and becoming unresponsive without anything really running on them. And when contacting the support the only thing we got is that they had nothing to do with it and it was a user issue. This sadly happend with multiple servers over multiple months. After that i switched to hetzner. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- magneticf · 2023-12-10 02:05 Oplink 2 AMD Ryzen vCores 4 GB Memory 250 GB NVMe Storage (Raid 10) 10Gbps port + 16TB data 1 IPv4 + 1 IPv6 Always On DDoS Protection $9.95 USD/m https://my.oplink.net/store/virtual-servers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Will-E-Coyote · 2023-12-10 02:10 OMG, I just thought they hate me. Trying to register for 3 years. Got at least 3 new bank accounts and 2 more credit cards since then. Finally I've contacted the support and they replied this: "Unfortunately, we are unable to resolve this or process the transaction. This is all the information we can provide." Thanks for nothin'. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Will-E-Coyote · 2023-12-10 02:16 Lol. This is not what you would expect from a big cloud provider. You go on a holiday and arrive home nothing works because some company deleted youtlr VMs. I have an instance at RackNerd and I only log in to make the yearly payment. Running only authoritative DNS and mail relay, but no problems so far. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fratm · 2023-12-10 03:03 They still offer the cheap $5 month instance.. How is that expensive? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- XdrummerXboy · 2023-12-10 03:22 Worked for me right now ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Shivkar2n3001 · 2023-12-10 04:03 Lol same. Ended up losing $4 and still got no response from their customer support. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- chaplin2 · 2023-12-10 04:18 It’s a solid option so long as the egress bandwidth meets your needs. It’s probably more trustworthy than others. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EW_IO · 2023-12-10 05:27 Thank you! At the end I used lightsail. It's the most reliable and hassle free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EW_IO · 2023-12-10 05:31 This is part of their email, not sure of it's country specific. I asked them for a refund, hopefully they answer. first of all, we would kindly ask you to send us the following information: First Name: Last Name: Address: City: ZIP Code: Country: Telephone Number: In addition to the above we require you to confirm relevant information with us by sending a document that proves the address. This could be: 1. A scan of your passport, driving license, or national identity card. 2. A scan of your telephone, electricity, or any other utility bill as long as it contains your name and your address. If possible, please send all scans as an attachment to your email and keep in mind that we can open only jpg, jpeg, png, gif, pdf, log, or txt files. The provisioning of your order is on hold for the time being. Once we have all needed data available, we will complete the verification process and we will continue the setup of your order right away. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Derekrollo · 2023-12-10 06:16 I use Vultr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EW_IO · 2023-12-10 06:17 Thank you! will consider tailscale. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _BoNgRiPPeR_420 · 2023-12-10 06:34 Best way to avoid this is to switch to a paid account. You are still entitled to free tier usage that way, but not subject to deletion. Most months I get a $0 bill. I was charged 3 cents once for going over the bandwidth limit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Digital_Voodoo · 2023-12-10 09:00 I've looked for such a deal on Let over Black Friday and Cyber Monday, to no avail. Just got a 1GB thing... Care to share your provider, in DM if you want? And how do you run the *arr suite with 60GB? Just 2 movies and 1 show? ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zqpmx · 2023-12-10 09:37 I used Vultr. I’m not sure if it’s the cheapest, but it was the cheapest with a site in Mexico, and I was able to install PFSense without doing a lot of hacks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dahaka88 · 2023-12-10 09:54 https://enzonix.com, the *arr suite works just as indexers and torrent-generator, the downloading happens on a different machine … you know piracy and stuff. alternatively, i can download via vpn & move files on completion over mounted locations and seed from there (i have a pretty complex/rules regarding this flow) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Digital_Voodoo · 2023-12-10 10:22 I have this exact setup, lol I only wanted a low spec VPS in a dmca-ignoring jurisdiction, solely for "Linux ISOs acquisition" ;) The real library is hosted elsewhere and things are moved via rclone and/or Syncthing. My acquisition machine has been rather unreliable lately, hence the hunt for a new one. I'll look at your suggestion, thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- blind_guardian23 · 2023-12-10 11:27 you could use wireguard instead. i went Co-lo though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- blind_guardian23 · 2023-12-10 11:28 If its free, no complaints possible when gone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wf1996 · 2023-12-10 11:42 Don’t know where you from. In Germany STRATO has a 2€ tier with 2vcores, 2G Ram and 30G Storage. It’s enough for some basic stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrHaxx1 · 2023-12-10 11:54 What the others told you is correct, but I have to point out that they'll send you several mails well in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrHaxx1 · 2023-12-10 11:55 Are we looking at the same plan, where it's 1 GB RAM, 1 CPU core and 25 GB SSD? I don't consider that particularly cheap for $5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NeoCGS · 2023-12-10 12:16 Yeye, thank you. It really wasn't as bad as it looked like lmao. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tech_medic_five · 2023-12-10 14:55 Yeah it’s super easy to deploy and for my uses it doesn’t cost a lot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Renkin42 · 2023-12-10 18:16 I’ll definitely keep that in mind. Probably my best bet is to go for an “infrastructure as code” approach so I can quickly jump ship to another provider as needed and treat all data there as ephemeral and backup to my homelab servers appropriately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fratm · 2023-12-10 18:34 It's not expensive either. And yes, that's the plan. What would you expect to pay for that? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LidgChris · 2023-12-10 21:50 Oh man, Hopefully you were still able to pay your mortgage when you went over bandwidth. (/s) Thats a solid idea, i didnt consider that youd still be entitled to free teir usage on a paid account, im going to do this for sure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cypressthatkid · 2023-12-11 00:13 We offer pretty good deals at https://exodushost.com, check it out and let me know if you need any help :) I’d be happy to give you a custom quote for a larger server if our advertised packages don’t fit your needs :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jeeverz · 2023-12-11 17:04 haha yes it was a joke, but apparently not too many found it as funny. :P ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nodebunny · 2023-12-11 17:34 bad jokes are bad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-12-13 03:30 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-12-29 06:15 [removed]