What radicalized you? For me it was Spore. reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Livid_Bee_5150 · 2023-11-22 19:42 Some people get into self hosting just because they're interested in the mechanics of it, but many people I think got inducted by the fact that for example, Facebook or snapchat make it so difficult to save your own pictures or migrate to another service, or the possibility that Google is reading all of your emails, etc. Others may have been radicalized by a specific event, such as a service provider closing up business and therefore you lose your data. For me, it was Spore com. I loved Spore, from the time I got it for my 10th birthday to maybe the age of 16 or 17 I poured hundreds or probably thousands of hours into this game. As I got older I became less invested in the gameplay and more invested in the creative aspect of it. I designed some badass creatures and spaceships that I was really proud of. I had a whole line of Spaceships that all served different roles in my head cannon, with different races of aliens following different themes. EA/Maxis/whoever runs Spore now purged all of them from spore.com, and now they're gone. Years of my childhood essentially put into a locked box and the key thrown away. For me it was like losing a scrapbook in a fire. What right did they have? So I ask, What radicalized you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zn448sk39 · 2023-11-22 19:54 Animal agriculture ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Toutanus · 2023-11-22 19:58 The end of google play music. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ExperimentalLain · 2023-11-22 19:59 Porn, heh… I found that my favourite videos and channels on Pornhub kept getting removed, so I decided to download my porn. But I needed to organize the collection, so I found a little app called Stash, which allows you to self-host a private porn site with all the bells and whistles! I then decided to download Jellyfin and do something similar for movies and TV shows. I wanted to have my media collection available on-demand from all my devices, so I got a little HP mini-PC and a Synology NAS which are running my services 24/7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Diligent_Ad_9060 · 2023-11-22 20:02 I wanted to learn how things work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_want_pudim · 2023-11-22 20:06 I'm about to go over Google photos limit, and I already pay for it, next tier is more than double what I pay now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wideboi_420 · 2023-11-22 20:11 Unsung hero ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gotkube · 2023-11-22 20:12 Poor/Inexistent documentation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-22 20:13 It's hard to say exactly what motivated me, I knew there was a few things I wanted, and self hosted options kept popping up, so I went that route. 1. Gitea, I wanted GitHub like interface, but didn't want my stuff uploaded to open internet, like gitlab. I use Gitea to backup thingiverse models, especially when they seem to 404 randomly over time. 2. Inventree, inventory management for stuff I use in electronic or 3d printed projects. 3. Jellyfin media streaming along with books 4. OpenHAB, honestly this stuff seems way over my head, I wanted to use this for a few things, but I know I wanted to log power consumption of my smart plugs I have for my 3d printers. Idk if it's actually working, I think I am using something java related to save the stuff, but I gotta go through the stuff again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FeZzko_ · 2023-11-22 20:23 It all started with my father, who dreamed of re-watching films from his childhood. As it was difficult (impossible) to find them in the shops, I used the alternative method. It all started with collecting old films from his era. For my part, ever since I was a child, I've had this "little voice in my head" telling me "what would happen if one day the suppliers of music, films, books... disappeared (because of politics, war, the end of sales... or whatever). Since then, I've digitally preserved everything I can (I only keep things that are hard to find, useful or that I like). And... mainly because I love technology and discovering all the things people can build with their keyboards. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Livid_Bee_5150 · 2023-11-22 20:25 Doing the Lord's work ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mrblonde91 · 2023-11-22 20:26 The number of different subscriptions for not hugely complex services plus I don't need to pay for hosting services when I'm working on hobby projects. Had played with Raspberry pis over the years but picked up a mini pc a year ago and has largely been online and doing various different things ever since. The ease of being able to access services when I'm not at home is great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- stefaniststefan · 2023-11-22 20:30 Running out of harddrive space ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nestramutat- · 2023-11-22 20:31 I forget which show it was, but it was pulled from Netflix while I was watching it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cmmmota · 2023-11-22 20:35 - The overall *enshittification* of online digital services. - The fact that I was at the mercy of multiple companies and my ISP to turn on/off my smart devices connected to my LOCAL network - The fact that I was paying for spotify just to play the same few hundred songs, most of which I'd already purchased in the past. Same thing for Disney+ and the kids shows my nephews watch. - The company that provided the password manager I used got hacked - I was using a digital assistant with an always-on microphone as a glorified timer. That's just off the top of my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CactusBoyScout · 2023-11-22 20:37 I first tried out Plex like a decade ago because The Simpsons weren't available online in any way and I hated having to change DVDs all the time. I loved that it remembered where I'd left off. I was using it to track which episodes I'd rewatched as I prepared for a Simpsons trivia competition. My team ended up taking second place! We won a case of donuts. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ponox · 2023-11-22 20:38 Self-hosting was the logical progression of using Linux as my primary computing environment for 10+ years. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- spanky34 · 2023-11-22 20:41 Dial up internet I think was the real reason but my first real dive into self hosting was XBMC on the original Xbox. I started softmodding Xboxes as a teenager. The idea of being able to just rip stuff to my xbox and then keep it all there was awesome. I never wanted to have to stream anything because it was impossible. Even after the 360 came out, the OG got enlisted into just playing music and movies. It'd sit there in the corner just dutifully playing streaming content from a media server. I don't even remember what was out in those days but there was something akin to plex that could stream and would attempt to transcode video. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ice-h2o · 2023-11-22 20:41 It all started with a raspberry pi… i wanted to host game servers for me and my friends without having to pay for them. This expanded to plex for movies and bookstack for dnd notes. Now I have so many services that I have to look it up to give you a full list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mrkesu · 2023-11-22 20:45 Almost off topic: You can self host Spore? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- viviolay · 2023-11-22 20:45 The cumulative cost of all these individual file services (iCloud, OneDrive, google drive). I realized I was paying for them all and still running out of space…eventually, I figured there had to be a better way. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 4LAc · 2023-11-22 20:47 A tp-link wifi plug that wouldn't work if the internet went down. Zigbee plugs and HA all the way after that! And I avoid tp-link products with a passion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tamdelay · 2023-11-22 20:52 Accidentally bought a very cheap old Synology thinking it was a dual bay USB hard drive enclosure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vkapadia · 2023-11-22 20:53 "enshittification" is such a good word for it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ForeverWinter · 2023-11-22 20:54 Interesting. Can you explain how you use Gitea to backup Thingiverse models? Do you somehow scrape the website? Or are you manually loading .stl's into a repo? I also like the sounds on Inventree. I'll definitely be looking into that. Have you looked into Home Assistant instead of OpenHAB? There's lots of good tutorials out there to set it up with InfluxDB and Grafana for trending things like power consumption etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fifteengetsyoutwenty · 2023-11-22 20:56 For music? Napster/Metallica. They seemed to out of touch and hateful towards a technology. For movies? Netflix dvds via the mail made it so easy to rip and store I couldn’t help myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrHaxx1 · 2023-11-22 21:05 Sure, me too, but what's that got to do with selfhosting? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sirgius10 · 2023-11-22 21:07 TOTALLY AGREED HAHAHAHHAHA HELLO VEGAN LINUX & SELFHOSTING FRIENDS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wideace99 · 2023-11-22 21:07 Can you be born radicalized ? Born & raised in a communist dictatorship country, were even a joke could make you disappear (aka torture/dead) followed by a bloody revolution as a teenager followed by a simulacrum of democracy combined with very high corruption in form an idiocracy. I did not need any vendor lock-in or software lock-in to open my eyes... I just don't trust by default :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moorederodeo · 2023-11-22 21:10 It's funny how wide the term radicalize has spread. I didn't think this was /r/selfhosted at first lol. That said, I feel like I've seen so many sites die in my relatively short lifetime, it's crazy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Uhhhhh55 · 2023-11-22 21:12 🗿 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- d4nowar · 2023-11-22 21:19 I don't *say* this is the reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ludocode · 2023-11-22 21:24 Films from your *father's childhood*. It is outrageous that these are not in the public domain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zn448sk39 · 2023-11-22 21:28 Do you not see the connection between our points of radicalization? You can't limit ideology to a single "thing" like self-hosting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gryd3 · 2023-11-22 21:32 Fuppes or Tversity? I did the same as you my friend. Would swap a 250GB hdd into the og xbox and replace the dash with XBMC. Would also run it with a component cable to play my media in HD\* . Got an IR remote and used it as the Media computer for many years... Even after the DVDDrive failed, it still did it's duty. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-22 21:35 I know there was a reason why I didn't go home assistant route, if I have to make an account on a website to use something that's suppose to be self hosted, it's a deal breaker. So that might be why, if it's not that, it was something cause I remember looking at it as an option. As for Gitea, I have an thingiverse API key, and I coded a telegram bot, so I send a thingiverse link, that can take 3 formats. The full link, "thing:12345" or "12345" to the bot. It will then download all the models, pictures, the description, I still need to implement on saving Json response that provides alot of info that I can code for later. Then I can view it online, has 3d model viewer like github. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l00lol00l · 2023-11-22 21:37 gen x.I grew up owning applications and media.The move to cloud and rent everything is not something im a fan of.The one exception is streaming shows. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Alcudring · 2023-11-22 21:46 You don't have to register on any website for home assistant. You can for more comfort. Running home assistant to without any registration. Just self hosted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mortsdeer · 2023-11-22 21:47 No need to sign up with Nabu Casa to use Home Assistant. There are plenty of us who use it only for local control things, and provide our own remote access. If you bought power monitor plugs that aren't local control, that's not HA's fault. :) I'm looking at setting up a local git service: either gitea or locally hosted gitlab: mostly for the automation/flows, I saw someone talk about automating their docker image creation so that they do not depend on the usual repos to build/rebuild everything. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- compost · 2023-11-22 21:55 ["enshittification"](https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms- cory-doctorow/) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- balthisar · 2023-11-22 21:58 For me it's simply being GenX. We used to _have to_ roll our own, and when companies wanted to finally cloud-this or -that, it was natural simply to resist. I'm not a Luddite; I'll use the cloud when it's convenient, but I always have backup options and other ways of doing things. I _am_ frugal, though, and I won't pay for shit just because it's convenient. I pay for Netflix, but view its content alternatively. Same for Disney. But I won't pay for Apple Music or whatever Amazon keeps asking me to upgrade to. I won't pay for some stupid telephone app to sync my data. I will pay for USENET access, though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- drfusterenstein · 2023-11-22 21:59 The fact that Spotify, soundcloud and bandcamp tracks can just disappear overnight and at any time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrSlaw · 2023-11-22 22:01 > Films from your father's childhood. It is outrageous that these are not in the public domain I mean, depending on how old OP/their dad is, that could be as recent as like 1990 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- spanky34 · 2023-11-22 22:03 Tversity was it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GilletteSRK · 2023-11-22 22:04 - Netflix dropping a bunch of shows I subscribed to it for and raising their prices. I'll just have my media locally kthxbye. - Similar to the OP's Spore story, losing a bunch of in-progress game saves to DRM verification servers that went offline permanently and left my saved games unusable. Thanks EA! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FrozenLogger · 2023-11-22 22:05 Quickbooks and to a lesser degree Windows. This is around 2000 or so: Quickbooks was keeping customer data, requiring you to keep their service forever. They also got in trouble later on for selling customer data. I noticed that Quickbooks did nothing but make an accountants job easier, so why didnt the accountant pay for it? In any case, the biggest issue was I hated quickbooks (Intuit) as a company, AND they required a license for each machine it was installed on, requiring either additional licenses or getting people to enter data on the same machine. I ran a small business, so I learned Linux, built out an accounting tool myself, and then served it as a web page and an X forwarded app to clients anywhere in the field. I started hosting my own website, running my own email, and it just grew from there. TL;DR: Intuit can suck it. Vendor lock in and vendor rules make me choose to make my own rules. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Livid_Bee_5150 · 2023-11-22 22:15 Well I wasn't really trying to make that point exactly, although I'm sure one could conceivably create some sort of self hosted sporepedia alternative. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Factual_Signage · 2023-11-22 22:18 I'm old nerd. It was always this way and no matter how many corpos want to try to take it from us we will just create new spaces. Growing up with this technology and the freedom of expression/tinkering that old tech gave us, its impossible to let it go back to the old ways. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wanze · 2023-11-22 22:22 Some of them could be in public domain, but the production company doesn't have much incentive to facilitate distribution, so they may still be hard to come by. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_Arman · 2023-11-22 22:23 A bunch of little things for me, little steps down the road to hell: - Google print worked, and then it died, with no replacement. So, I built a print server. - Google music was awesome, I could upload my whole library and stream it anywhere. It was easily accessible through any Google device. Then it died and became Yahoo music, and... I can't stream it anywhere. I can barely find it. - Netflix went from "Share your password!" to "You need a premium account to stream above SD quality lol". It's awful trying to find shows these days. The last five movies I wanted to stream, I would have needed five different streaming services. I did the math, and realized it was cheaper for me to physically purchase the DVDs and rip them than to stream them. Jellyfin it is! - I started with Vivint for smart house stuff, realized it was hella expensive and switched to Wink and Alarm. com, then realized it was still expensive and super limited, so I switched to OpenHAB. That last one was probably the biggest eye-opener. There are so many paid services that are *objectively worse* than basic free self-hosted services. Wink was ok, but I can do so much more without it. And none of this was *hard*. I spent hours setting up Jellyfin, but it took less time than for me to work to pay for 6 streaming services. Sure, it doesn't have the latest whatever, but so what? At least I know where to find where Stargate: SG1 is streaming! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gooseberryfalls · 2023-11-22 22:42 >people can build with their keyboards I love this because I'm not entirely sure if you mean software or the mechanical keyboards build build from the different (3D printed) parts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FeZzko_ · 2023-11-22 22:45 It was deliberate :p And I was referring to both! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GenerlAce · 2023-11-22 22:47 This. I’ve tried to convince a few friends that WiFi-smart devices are not worth it and to go zigbee. I got a great deal on second hand Aqara wall switches and then found a bunch of Aqara sensors on aliexpress. Cheap and efficient. Have been working perfectly on my home assistant with capability to also work on my Apple home. Love it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ModerateBiscuit · 2023-11-22 22:51 I've had a homelab for many years. The drive for me to move to full self hosting everything was icloud photos. Had to reinstall my Mac, and as part of that I wanted to take a full backup of my photo library. Clicked "download originals"... Failed. Tried again, downloaded 2 and failed. Contacted support and was told it would be investigated. 6 weeks later I finally had access to my photos. I said to my wife "no company should be able to stop us accessing our own stuff, there's going to be changes". Beyond email (as I hate running mail servers), 3 years later I use zero cloud services for data. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- d4rk3 · 2023-11-22 22:53 If I really look back it all started with my own cable modem and router to save $10 a month on my Comcast bill. This led to DD-WRT and eventually OpenWRT on my routers throughout the years. Then I spun up a media server for all my movies, shows, stand-up comedy specials, music, pictures, etc. Had to have a hypervisor for virtual machines... Next came my NVR camera system and VPN because FUCK having my footage ever leave my house. ...to name a few lol. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vkapadia · 2023-11-22 22:59 Thanks, that was a good read ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-22 23:00 The smart plugs are ESP8266 or variant so I can flash tasmota on them. OpenHAB is receiving the data from the smart plugs via MQTT, I believe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sublimesinister · 2023-11-22 23:01 It’s just that now I finally _can_. Between Tailscale and NixOS, its now fun and easy to set up reproducibly and available from anywhere ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bayyo · 2023-11-22 23:06 Works perfectly fine with Home Assistant. Also the community is probably the biggest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Goaliedude3919 · 2023-11-22 23:07 For me it was the story about a dad who got his entire Google account shut down because a picture got flagged as CP. The dad took Google to court and it was proven that the pictures were taken to send to the pediatrician and were objectively not CP. Google refused to reinstate the account even after he was proven innocent. After recently having a daughter of my own, I don't want to run the risk of losing all my photos and everything I have in Google, all because Google can't admit they were wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Blachummingbird · 2023-11-22 23:11 I've been shopping around lately and some of the SONOFF diy smart switches have support for control over LAN which is absolutely a win in my eyes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- keera-lalala · 2023-11-22 23:11 Google+, Mega, Google Cloud, Google Play Music... Basically Google. And why pay for things when they can be free? Also I had so many childhood games I spent hours on that are just non existent now too, I completely understand. Rip Family Barn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Levero634 · 2023-11-22 23:12 We exist :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NelsonMinar · 2023-11-22 23:15 If you haven't read it, this is Cory Doctorow's essay that entered the term into public consciousness. https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ForeverWinter · 2023-11-22 23:18 Wow. That sounds really slick. Probably not something I'll be able to figure out any time soon, but thanks for the insight into how you're doing that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ed-carlos · 2023-11-22 23:29 This! Milenial here, if I bought something it is mine and I can do whatever I want with it. You can't just take it away, or keep changing me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Discommodian · 2023-11-22 23:29 This reminded me of something… my wife has a little online shop where she will make a design, slap it on something, and put it up for sale. She used a “quote” from Ernest Hemingway and it got pulled for copyright. Just something the man said sometime… how the fuck can someone have the right to own something like a phrase? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- johimself · 2023-11-22 23:32 I was using TVersity and XBMC back in the early days. Sounds like we had similar youths, although I was probably about 20. I got an email the other day, telling me that the £10 I paid for MCEbuddy wouldn't cover future updates anymore. I forgot what the app did, or even that it existed, but I must have used and replaced loads of cool software over the years. I have fond memories of Windows Home Server OS and GrabIt newsreader ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rechuchatumare · 2023-11-22 23:34 in my country was easy to rent porn DVD's in the local video-store (no matter you were minor (but without school uniform) anime was scarce an difficult... so for me.. was.. gundam seed, i had to learn how to download the torrent,, search for the subtitles, then stream it to the big tv in the living room etc.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Livid_Bee_5150 · 2023-11-22 23:37 What's your current password manager solution? I just use bitwarden because I read it is open source ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trash-Alt-Account · 2023-11-22 23:38 I have nothing to add except that I love bitwarden with my whole heart it's soooo nice in every way ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LawfulMuffin · 2023-11-22 23:40 Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable timeframe to go in public domain to me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- root-node · 2023-11-22 23:43 Have you seen: http://rarefilmm.com/film-index/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arin_Horain · 2023-11-22 23:49 Would've been a great idea 10 years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- primalbluewolf · 2023-11-22 23:51 They don't. Quoting someone is typically valid "Fair Use". Hemingway's stuff is all public domain anyway, I though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tai9ch · 2023-11-22 23:51 But I found Linux, the free / open source software community, and the pirate community in the 90's. Since then it's been pretty obvious to me that every computer has an administrator and that I'd prefer if the administrator is me. Stuff like "the cloud" and "apps" isn't going to distract me from that point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- primalbluewolf · 2023-11-22 23:52 You can make those tplink plugs work off-line if you stick some time into it. The zigbee is probably more worthwhile. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nibdev · 2023-11-22 23:54 For 4) maybe try HomeAssistant instead, its better in any way then OpenHAB (personal opinion of course..) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lev400 · 2023-11-22 23:54 I have a bunch of Wi-Fi switch’s but know I need to embrace zigbee at some point. Any suggestions for a plug and zigbee hub ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hot_Bottle_9900 · 2023-11-22 23:55 \[Luddites Show Us The Politics Of Technology | Brian Merchant | The Majority Report\](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvIfuzfD1r0) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Someoneoldbutnew · 2023-11-23 00:02 internet user in the 90s, freedom was your responsibility. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmoothBrainSavant · 2023-11-23 00:07 Subscriptions toEverything ---------------------------------------------------------------------- oldkale · 2023-11-23 00:22 > spotify This is the one that got me to realize even if I *was* paying, I was still the product. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cmmmota · 2023-11-23 00:26 Self-hosted Vaultwarden. An open-source back-end compatible with the official Bitwarden clients. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MercyKees · 2023-11-23 00:32 This is the way ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pm_something_u_love · 2023-11-23 00:38 It was actually the noise all the drives in my desktop PC made. That prompted me to build a NAS to put them in that I could put in the cupboard. The obsession with self hosting just grew out of having that headless Linux machine running all the time and not doing a whole lot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- user01401 · 2023-11-23 00:46 Spore can join the wall of shame of companies I have seen personally either pull a bait-and-switch, shutdown services unexpectedly, or paywall features unexpectedly to force a mandatory (sometimes huge) price increase: dmarcian Rentec Direct gmelius ECI Mark Systems odoo SignNow Intuit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- user01401 · 2023-11-23 00:52 KeePass on desktop KeePass2Android on mobile Aegis Authenticator on mobile ---------------------------------------------------------------------- amca01 · 2023-11-23 01:00 Two things really: Dropbox as an automatic solution for file syncing and sharing; I needed to pay for an upgrade so I switched first to Onecloud and then Nextcloud. The second was due to my work: I was an academic, teaching mathematics, and we were experimenting with online assessment systems. Most publishers provide one of their own, but then you have issues with contracts, student access etc. For example, a student could get access for one year. But many of our students were part-time, and took 18 months or more. This meant repeated calls to the publishers to issue new access codes. Since I already had a VPS, I put an open source mathematics assessment system on it and we ran it happily for a few years. I didn't mind paying for it myself at the start, considering it experimental, but when the university refused to host it themselves I gave up on it. It was good while it lasted, though. I now need a decent photo management system (Immich sounds good) and start weaning myself away from Google. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- billyalt · 2023-11-23 01:02 As I got older it seemed to me like all the various streaming services like Netflix and Spotify and Stadia (and its failed predecessors) were efforts at the eradication of the very concept of ownership. The shows and movies on Netflix don't offer residuals to the actors or other production workers. Spotify doesn't pay shit for the musicians on the platform. The whole situation just looks bleak for everyone (except for the MBAs and shareholders) but especially the people producing the content. I'm happy to buy digital media if I can download and it keep it offline DRM-free. I will pay money for that kind of product because I get to keep it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UnsuspiciousCat4118 · 2023-11-23 01:03 Everything going SaaS. You want me to pay for the service AND sell my data. That’s a no from me dawg. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StatisticianNo8331 · 2023-11-23 01:03 I'm going to get burned for having this opinion in this subreddit but Spotify is the one service where I don't mind having my usage data tracked. I have discovered so much more new music as a result of this and one of my favourite things to do is to listen to the Radio of a song I like which gives me a great new playlist. I'm also enjoying spotify's new AI DJ which always gives me new things to listen to. They also introduced Audiobooks without any additional cost (If you don't count inflation) so I'm listening to Arnold's new book. I also don't think any self-hosted tool provides a better service than spotify. The genre's of music I like is so broad that collecting all the songs would be far too labourious and spotify also gives me the opportunity to listen to songs and artists I never would have sort out myself. I promise i'm not a corporate shill. All other streamining services be damned but music is a huge part of my life and Spotify is a subscription I happily pay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- user01401 · 2023-11-23 01:05 HA community is not the most pleasant to engage, to say it politely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- augmented-garage · 2023-11-23 01:17 In the early days of Google Drive a few of my files disappeared. I also had a scare where I was temporarily locked out of my account and realized there is no recourse to customer support. Installed OwnCloud soon after. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BlackHazeRus · 2023-11-23 01:17 Spore is such an amazing game. To be fair, I think it was the only game that allowed sharing your creations with other people just by sending them a JPEG file. But I get the point, I’m on the same plate here. It is a fucking BS! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A_Sexy_Little_Otter · 2023-11-23 01:20 the passing of the DMCA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- oldkale · 2023-11-23 01:22 To clarify, I agree and was prepared for that compromise. It's the selling of it to other entities that I take real issue with. A separate issue, but aligning with your point, I'm especially concerned for podcast listeners. A lot can be surmised about someone if one knew exactly what figures they choose to listen to. Especially with modern tools. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- illegalsmolcat · 2023-11-23 01:25 lol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lexcilius · 2023-11-23 01:29 Wait…Spore is gone? I got that game forever ago, and due to life haven’t played in probably 15 years….are you telling me I can never play it again? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- abenitoc · 2023-11-23 01:31 This is the way. Take a look into KeePass XC, same base benefits but it has much better integrations with Browsers and other goodies. You can save the database in a shared folder or cloud drive to use it on several decices. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ashooner · 2023-11-23 01:31 I don't really see it as radical, I think it's conservative. For ~80 years people kept their own media, and they loved it (photo books, slide shows, album collections). Relatively recently subscription capitalism has tried to disrupt that, and people generally hate it. It certainly doesn't seem to make them feel good, anyway. I just think we can return to the normal, better way, so I do. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- apbt-dad · 2023-11-23 01:51 What do you use instead? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trustworthy_Fartzzz · 2023-11-23 01:55 This is the way. HA is what really got me thinking about self-hosting more seriously — I realized Google and Amazon likely knew what room I was in and when I was in it. That was enough to go down the rabbit hole. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trustworthy_Fartzzz · 2023-11-23 01:57 I was pretty deep into self-hosting before spinning up the much vaunted *arr stack — because I saw YouTube TV had gone up to $83/mo. 🏴‍☠️ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sarinkhan · 2023-11-23 01:58 I started self hosting around 2003-2005. I had a dsl modem that could be switched to a router by doing some hack. I did it, then wrote a how to. Then wanted to host the site. I had to use the hack I made to host the site about the hack. Then a few years back (5, at most 10) I discovered docker stuff on my open mediavault Nas. Started self host lot of stuff. Last straw is recently, when I rebuilt my homelab. I discovered services like twingate, so I could access my Lan stuff securely from anywhere. Once I watched Plex from outside easily I think I became a lost cause for many services. I now feel like I can do almost anything I want myself. I got fiber 2 years ago perhaps, with gig symmetrical, so it also made many stuff possible. Bthe internet can be my Lan. I can now have my stuff working as I want, and access it anywhere. And if I can't have a reliable mobile connection outside, I can still have stuff replicating on my laptop or whatever. I'd say what made me a full on self hosting fan is the combination of amazing technologies available to us. Deploying a stack with docker- copose up -d is insanely cool. Also many self hosted apps are so cool, I don't know if there is even a paid equivalent. Data helps me become better :manage groceries with grocy. Manage money with firefly iii. Write structured docs with bookstack. Organize stuff with Kannan. Do loads with nextcloud. Those stuff help me manage my life. Even relationships, old friends I forget to call, there is Monica to manage stuff like that. Those apps are developed by real people, that want to address a need. Unlike most commercial apps, that want to create one and make you pay for stuff monthly, have you watch ads all the time, etc... I really love those self hosted apps. Home assistant, man... It was a game changer. Say a life changer. It made me develop domotics products. It grew my skills. Now I use it to get my energy consumption in check. It kept my aquariums alive at some point. All of this... All of this is the good stuff. And also, I feel a sense of belonging. Those people, they are my people. All of you guys and gals, I love y'all :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GlowHurtHuman · 2023-11-23 02:00 I like that, too. I wonder if there is a way to take data from what we listen to and create something like that within our own server. I'm completely new to this so I'm just thinking out loud. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shitty_user · 2023-11-23 02:06 What? No way, the 90s were only… Fuck ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 02:09 I think I see the reason, I went through home assistant setup, and at the time of wanting to use home assistant, when I selected linux all the options were virtual machines, and dockers, my "server" is CLI, and I didnt want to go through the frustration of learning docker while trying to get it to work. I didn't have any extra SBC (I do now, but they're orange pi's) and I wanted it on my server. But now I will scribble this into my sticky notes app to reconsider in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 02:12 No problem! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 02:13 Yeah I think that's why I went with that decision is because I originally was going to use home assistant, but one thing lead to another and went a different route at that time, however, I will be reconsidering it in the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Runaway42 · 2023-11-23 02:14 And for anyone who'd prefer something to listen to, Corey gave a great presentation at Def Con on how to fight back against enshittification. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rimtaSgGz\_4](https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=rimtaSgGz_4) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LienniTa · 2023-11-23 02:30 dropbox deleted my files xD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- git · 2023-11-23 02:41 Apple's near-adoption of NeuralHash. For years I was comfortable with using big tech companies that had strong tech credentials and a level of trust in the community for implementing things well, securely, and in a way that preserves privacy and respect for the user. Closed systems provided by them were therefore trustworthy to me, having faith that the world-class security professionals and software developers and product owners were all implementing things well, even though I had only limited direct visibility of that. Apple in particular had a reputation for having the most respect for users and their privacy. Then NeuralHash broke the spell for me. I had an epiphany, a sudden realisation that the untrustworthiness I knew existed in other companies existed in these ones too. I switched to a firm belief that if it's *possible* for a company to do something naughty with your data, then on a long enough timeline it's inevitable that they will. I resolved then to avoid big tech wherever I can, and where I can't I try to implement things in a way such that it isn't ever possible for them to do nasty things with my stuff. I've de-Googled, de-Appled, and de-Amazoned, and returned to having a strong emphasis on managing my privacy and taking ownership of as much of what I use as I can. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Initial-Repeat9146 · 2023-11-23 02:46 I was never radicalized myself. I've always self-hosted. I spent time in centralized ecosystems like most here, but ultimately I still self-host because I like to have some level of control ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kizaing · 2023-11-23 03:00 The thing that did me in was 2 things - Google music shut down - Netflix pulled Danger 5 I now had nowhere to upload my own music, and Danger 5 at the time was literally unobtainable legally unless you bought super expensive used region locked DVDs I had enough and spun up a plex server and now here we are ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gmaclean · 2023-11-23 03:26 I had some plugs that I discovered I could flash custom firmware to. It taught me a few skills that I’m still a novice in level in, but I understand much more than when I started as well. I started out with Tasmota and eventually moved over to ESPHome. I’ve taken quite a few products out of the cloud over the years with it including some for friends. Those devices, plus HomeKits as well as Zigbee as you mentioned are all great and all a central part in my Home Automation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EnricoSuavePallazzo · 2023-11-23 03:46 I was born this way. I ran a BBS as a kid in the 80s, way before the internet. (TBBS on a TRS-80). In mid 2000s, I setup a phpBB on some webhost for my hotrod/drag racing friends. I think I finally started hosting it from my house in 2015. My regular Windows 7 desktop running a no-ip DDNS client, with Ubuntu Linux in a VirtualBox VM, port 80 port-forwarded to it. Good times. But Radicalized -- it was the events after Jan 6, where AWS/Apple/Google shutdown Parler and some other right-leaning sites. For all the other truly horrible shit that exists on the internet, the speed/way they colluded to shut that shit down was scary. At that point it was crystal clear that the bigs can/will shut you down on a whim and it was imperative to control your own data/infrastructure and having multiple options for connectivity and key service providers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StatisticianNo8331 · 2023-11-23 04:07 > A separate issue, but aligning with your point, I'm especially concerned for podcast listeners. A lot can be surmised about someone if one knew exactly which figures they choose to listen to. Especially with modern tools. Especially in the global political climate of ~5 years from now. This is a fantastic point and has made me rethink the non-music content I listen to on Spotify. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StatisticianNo8331 · 2023-11-23 04:08 Something like Google Takeout? That would be awesome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pcs3rd · 2023-11-23 04:37 Yea. I use Spotify for discovery, but since I found *arr, I couldn't even tell you what streaming service the content I watch came from. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nairou · 2023-11-23 04:42 The big thing that always stops me from going the Jellyfin route is storage space for movie rips. Granted it's been a long time since I last tried, but one movie was something like 8gb of space. How do you deal with either the constant need for more space, or just not being able to store all of your movies? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BrooklynSwimmer · 2023-11-23 04:44 M my understating is TPL now works with HA and local app access ? Says platinum on the docs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SnooPets20 · 2023-11-23 04:45 It's so ironic that the website has been so enshittified that a banner taking 3/4ths of the screen is the first thing I see. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tgkad · 2023-11-23 04:55 Because I want to stream things to my TV and watch while my family eats. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quiet-Syllabub · 2023-11-23 04:56 I just pay the $5 a year for bitwarden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MalcolmY · 2023-11-23 04:58 Pihole. Because ads are my personal enemy since I was young seeing the fucking BS ads interrupting and cutting into my TV time. I don't remember exactly how, but eventually I found my way into docker and the idea of containerization made perfect sense to a noob like me. It just made everything easy to try, host, play with. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- user01401 · 2023-11-23 04:59 Intuit just did it again by increasing qb desktop pricing over 500% or pay a subscription for the desktop. Stop paying and it stops working. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- swiftb3 · 2023-11-23 05:03 So much better than lastpass even before they made it crappy and got hacked multiple times. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- swiftb3 · 2023-11-23 05:11 > At least I know where to find where Stargate: SG1 is streaming! haha, many gigabytes are filled with Stargate. Also, the only way to stream the streamlined Mythbusters, which is a million times better than the original. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cybasura · 2023-11-23 05:15 I'm Asian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- D0ublek1ll · 2023-11-23 05:16 For my homelab it was the fact that the movies and shows streaming marketed splintered into tens of different services, so basically based on a cost benefit analysis. But years before that I also got a trigger from my Minecraft server. That one moved out of the home rather quickly tho. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RootHouston · 2023-11-23 05:21 For me, it was getting into retro computing and just remembering the old days when not everything was some fucking cloud subscription. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RootHouston · 2023-11-23 05:23 Spotify for ephemeral discoveries. Jellyfin with physical album rips for the permanence. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RootHouston · 2023-11-23 05:25 I don't like its inability to be reasonably interacted with via an API. Instead, I switched to `pass` with good old fashioned `git`. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RootHouston · 2023-11-23 05:27 That is a misapplication, but dead people still hold copyright all the time. It ist typically referred to as an estate, and is controlled by those who inherited the deceased's assets. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MDSExpro · 2023-11-23 05:29 Nothing. Initially I wanted some resources to educate myself and experiment with various tools used in software, in process discovered tons of free, open source software that I could use in my daily life. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dash488 · 2023-11-23 05:31 Cory spoke at DEF CON but the talk at Supercon really hit in the feels for me. Enshittification is such a great word and something he has taken and really put the heat under with the EFF to really put the rubber to the road with all the shitty internet we as a culture have experienced. He is a really nice guy and would love to hear from you if you reach out and relate to whats happening. Or not, just my 2c. Heres the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1ud0rAT7w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MuffelMonster · 2023-11-23 05:42 The enshittification of services, e.g. chefkoch.de suddenly coming up with premium cooking receipts, and other sites moving this behind paywalls. Tandoor for the win. Youtube and the ad war - metube, tubearchivist. My son being hooked up by "Paw patrol", resulting in some big meltdowns and fights. Another win for tubearchivist. ll the services which increase their prices (Spotify, Disynes, Netflix) - the arr collection and 60 TB storage on my NAS, with Jellyfin and tubearchivist. Google becoming the most evil company - moved to Protonmail, with my own domain and my own email address. Ads in general, but especially YT - ublock origin, AdGuard Home. The simplicity of installing complex software thanks to docker, and the possibility to embed anything in the network thx to Ubound and Opnsense. And so on. I feel it is becoming more and more a battle against the internet, and not surfing/enjoying it. Everything monetized, all of them want you to drag you into subscribing to another service, adding up into hundreds of dollars/month cost, and after hooking you up, increase the prices. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MuffelMonster · 2023-11-23 05:45 Bitwarden, not self hosted. I don`t fully trust my backups, and I require access to the vault from the laptop of my company, which is not possible with either exposing BW to the internet or using the web service. But: if you use a different service (I look at you, lastpass): switch, as fast as you can. Lastpass was hacked several times in the past, and I am glad that I moved away, deleted and purged all my records on lp before that date. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WendysChiliAndPepsi · 2023-11-23 05:46 I cannot wait until this word is gone. Buzzword with “shit” in it for a shock value gimmick that’s been overused to the point of losing all meaning. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MuffelMonster · 2023-11-23 05:49 If you need stationary music: a NAS with smb share, enough space (2 TB FLACs for me) and then at each place a Pi4 connected to a ADC sound controller and a hifi system, with the pi running moode audio. It is my fav. combination here. We use two of them. One at my working place, and aother one connected to the HiFi system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MuffelMonster · 2023-11-23 05:56 External USB case with 4x hdd capacity. Uses USB 3.1, I can push 280 MB/sec ove the connection without issues. I bought 4x 16 TB drives, now I have capacity. And I canturn the whole stack off if I don`t need it, saving some money on the electricity bill. Plus I can swap the drives if I need more space. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_Arman · 2023-11-23 06:13 Drives are crazy cheap right now; you can get new, brand name, 8TB drives for under $100, and used drives even cheaper. That's a thousand 8GB movies right there. (I'm not worried about losing data, since everything is already on DVDs or Blu-ray, so no backup worries) Plus it's not hard to compress files; a standard DVD can be compressed to under 2 GB with little to no loss of quality. Less, if it's already poor quality, or something like old animation that compresses well. It takes a little time to compress, but it's not like I have a huge stack of discs to rip at any given time, so I just start it before I go to bed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Datajoke · 2023-11-23 06:50 My food getting cold while scrolling endlessly on Netflix trying to find something decent to watch. X movie? gone Y tv show? gone. If my wife wanted to see a classic movie/tv show I could easily find it but had no convenient way to serve it. Started with a rented server running plex + gdive for about 3+ years until the google crackdown earlier this year. I moved everything locally. Only had the arrs and plex at the beginning. I really started looking into self-hosted open-source services when Life360 hiked their prices from $3 to $15. They adjusted it to $5 now, but they lost me as a customer forever. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Toutanus · 2023-11-23 06:53 I use jellyfin with a custom script to sync my playlists bitween my devices : https://github.com/Totonyus/jellyfin_playlists_sync ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ModernSimian · 2023-11-23 07:02 Ehh, Ghostbusters and Back to the Future might be from his fathers childhood. You never know... But I also do a lot of movies explicitly for my FIL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jelly_cake · 2023-11-23 07:10 Cory Doctorow's a really cool guy. He's got a similar sort of ideology to RMS, but waayyy more moderate and normie-friendly with how he presents it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jaegan438 · 2023-11-23 07:27 >streamlined Mythbusters, which is a million times better than the original. The what now? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- liveFOURfun · 2023-11-23 07:31 This and you could get quality. Looking at BluRay vs streaming. Videoquality is lower but nobody cares. Sure might be good enough for one time view. Im afraid purchase options will vanish and we will only see streaming offers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zVouloir · 2023-11-23 07:45 This is the way ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bayyo · 2023-11-23 07:47 Definitely check it out, it’s worth it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pop_goes_the_kernel · 2023-11-23 07:53 Dude it’s not even the whole “event+gate” word formation. It’s just an expletive to start with, so to complain it’s a bastardisation seems… strange. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wegwerfennnnn · 2023-11-23 08:35 Wait, so you just have all your services installed as plain applications/services within one OS? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wegwerfennnnn · 2023-11-23 08:37 At least you're honest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Geminii27 · 2023-11-23 08:40 Having far more fine control over, of all things, email. Being able to operate an entire domain and control what happens with every email address in it. I now have a different email address for every legal entity I interact with, sometimes on a per-interaction basis. If I get spam, I know *exactly* where they scraped the email address from and I can set that specific email address (plus or minus any other data such as which domain it's coming from) to reject with a custom response or display any other behavior in the email protocol, which is surprisingly extensive once you start looking at it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dead_Lemon · 2023-11-23 08:41 KeePassXC has OTP abilities integrated. Syncthing is also great to sync the DB between devices directly, no cloud needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Docccc · 2023-11-23 08:42 i still use icloud because easy of use. but i backup everything locally ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IAmMarwood · 2023-11-23 08:45 I keep considering self hosting but I stick with letting Bitwarden host it because I trust them more than I do myself. I know this isn't necessarily true forever but as far as I'm aware they haven't had any security blunders yet whereas I know for a fact that I have 😂 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IAmMarwood · 2023-11-23 08:47 We bought LastPass enterprise at work and it was absolutely hot garbage. I cannot for one second understand why people like it compared to the alternatives. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IAmMarwood · 2023-11-23 08:51 Looking back I think that Google Reader going away was probably my first motivation to host services myself as opposed to just storing files on my network. I had a little Synology at the time that I was just using as a NAS but when Google Reader when away I fired up FreshRSS I believe and started doing it myself. I don't actually run an RSS reader server now and I suspect they aren't as popular as they were so maybe Google actually was onto something shuttering it HOWEVER we won't give them bonus points for that, just points for getting me into self hosting 😂 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dash199t · 2023-11-23 09:04 Sonoff Zigbee Dongle Plus with Zigbee2mqtt is working really nice for me. Will Cost you 25$, but needs a Server to Work on As for plugs, I use Blitzwolf plugs and they Work Just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bistinator · 2023-11-23 09:12 Pass ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alwayswatchyoursix · 2023-11-23 09:35 I switched to KeePassXC also because the ability to use my hardware keys was a lot better than regular KeePass even with extensions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 09:52 >The fact that I was at the mercy of multiple companies and my ISP to turn on/off my smart devices connected to my LOCAL network More people should be mad about this Your shit flat out does not work without internet And what do they say? "Why worry about something that isn't going to happen?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 09:54 That's a great point on the podcasts - I wonder if the data they have shows any correlation between the type of music listened to and the podcasts listened to ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 09:57 I was fully against Bitwarden at first because I thought your database would be on the server and nowhere else Nope, turns out Bitwarden is pretty easy to recover from a disaster For example, let's say in your house you have a desktop and an old PC running as a server That PC has Vaultwarden on it and let's say you also have Bitwarden on your phone Now your house burns down and just to top it all off you've lost all your passwords too Nope, every device connected to some kind of Bitwarden instance keeps a full local copy of the DB So you can just restore from any device ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 09:58 Yeah it took me years and a few tries, but KeePassXC is just better It's a downstream fork too - so it gets all of the upstream features and fixes from KeePass2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 10:00 Oh man I miss the days of being able to "launder" music through it For anyone who doesn't know, you used to be able to upload your own library of mp3s to GPM When you'd do this, Google would try to content match the song and replace it with the full high quality version That you could then download and replace your lower quality version ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 10:03 Sad isn't it? There's a whole generation growing up renting everything from their home to their phone to the content they want to enjoy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-23 10:05 I think most normal people don't even care about that sadly Shows how good the quality is of most stuff on Netflix ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FeZzko_ · 2023-11-23 10:09 No, I don't, thank you very much :D! I have the impression that everything is in English, do you know of anything similar that offers other languages? My father doesn't speak English unfortunately ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FeZzko_ · 2023-11-23 10:11 Born in \~1950 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lilolalu · 2023-11-23 10:14 Google ---------------------------------------------------------------------- root-node · 2023-11-23 10:16 There are some non-English films on that site, but yes it would be good to see a lot more old other-language films too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0d_billie · 2023-11-23 10:37 Yeah this was such an unreasonably good offer. It's what first got me into using VPNs: trying to get access to that functionality before it was available in the UK. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Zoenboen · 2023-11-23 11:08 How did you drop Vivant? I got it because it promised to work with Home Assistant and others and it since stopped playing nicely. I'd love for them to come get the equipment and be done with this experiment but I've heard cancelling the contract is impossible. I'm not paying them due to a layoff so you'd think they'd be happy to get their shit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Zoenboen · 2023-11-23 11:09 Where was this story when people were flipping over Apple doing this? Not that it exonerates Apple, just that it shows Google has been doing this dance for a long time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FeZzko_ · 2023-11-23 11:17 Thanks ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolinux · 2023-11-23 11:42 What's the word when you don't have an account for wired.com and can't read the explanation of enshittification? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GordonFreemanK · 2023-11-23 11:53 Yeah now you pay for the product and you're still seen as the product. It's even worse than when the product was free. Now you pay for it and it's still not yours. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Peckemys · 2023-11-23 12:26 KeepassXC is not a fork of Keepass2. It was a fork of KeepassX, which is no longer developed. Both are written in C++, in order to have a native cross-platrm app. In opposite, Keepass2 is written in C# and only available on Linux with mono. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- apbt-dad · 2023-11-23 12:27 Nice. Thank you for the share. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- apbt-dad · 2023-11-23 12:29 This sounds like a really good setup. I have a good offline collection and could do this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lev400 · 2023-11-23 12:35 Thank you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- therealmrj05hua · 2023-11-23 12:35 Jellyfin for books? I knew it did okay with audiobooks. Jellyfin is my go-to for movies and shows, but audiobookshelf has been fantastic for ebooks and most audiobooks. I love that it natively supports kindle, spent way too much time in calibre and I just wanted something more simple. Audiobookshelf's app could use some love on the having full set of features though. Avoid it for comics and manga sadly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Toutanus · 2023-11-23 12:43 I wasn't even a paid user I was just uploading all my music. There is currently no streaming platform that contains all the music I listen. GPM was the only one to have a workaround to this problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Supertrinko · 2023-11-23 12:44 Privacy was my breaking point, and it happened recently. Been using the internet for 26 years now. Never particularly had a problem with spam, despite never really caring about what happens with my data. I just never got any. Shared everything with google, signed up to all sorts with the same e-mail and same phone number and card, no VPNs or anything. A couple months ago, that all changed when something somewhere leaked my phone number and e-mail, and it's all turned to quite a mess. So I've reset, opened a new e-mail, attached that to my own domain name, and further attached that to self-hosted email masks. If I don't like the e-mail provider... plug my domain elsewhere. If I don't like the domain registrar... take my domain elsewhere. And the e-mail masks are infinite. I can spin up unique ones for every service. I've got a solid password manager that integrates with that so every service gets a unique email and password. I've got a few really cheap $2 sim cards, and when I need to sign up to certain things, it gets one of them. I'm planning on finding a decent VoIP provider because I can just transfer the numbers to the provider, and will only need to buy a cheap sim on the odd occasion a service doesn't accept it, and then my actual phone will just have a number that absolutely no one is given. Not connected to anything. I'm struggling to find something like privacy.com for non-US citizens. But once I've found a decent and affordable one, I'll be on that in a moment. And pretty much anything that doesn't need my real name, gets a pseudonym. For home I've got a decent VPN setup, I've got all sorts of adblocking through pihole and ublock origin. When I'm done with all this, anything I sign up to should have a unique name, email, password, phone number, and payment card. Nothing to link together in their datasets. Is it perfect? Nah. Could a bad actor still put 2 and 2 together or are there gaps because I'm still learning? Absolutely. But honestly I'm enjoying the process of learning, so it's worth it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Vicuuu · 2023-11-23 13:10 Care to open source your custom built app? I have been looking for a self hosted Quickbooks alternative. All of the currently available options either lack the functionality that I am looking for or is just way too complex to learn how to use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MercyKees · 2023-11-23 13:22 That's cool but definitely beyond my needs or knowledge. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Majestic-Contract-42 · 2023-11-23 13:29 Myself and my brother's DVD collection needing to be shared when we had both moved out and didn't live in the same place anymore. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RootHouston · 2023-11-23 13:37 If you don't need to automate and you are good with what Bitwarden provides, it is a great tool. I got my mom on it, and she loves it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WendysChiliAndPepsi · 2023-11-23 14:02 You and I both know if shit wasn’t in the word it would not have the widespread adoption that it does. It’s because it’s a funny variation of an expletive. The word is also used now for literally any case where a product/service gets bad. Which is not at all what the original article was about which had way more nuance. People just saw the headline and thought “funny word I’ll repeat endlessly in any slightly relevant situation” ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Supahstar42 · 2023-11-23 14:43 Dude no rudeness intended. Try docker, give the 30 minutes it takes to learn docker compose and just run everything in portainer stacks (their name for docker compose files). It allows you to control exactly how each service is configured and what it has access to in a very readable syntax. Most services have a docker counterpart because it stands by that self host philosophy of compartmentalization to keep things private and secure Also, if (and when) you do try this, remember to think of docker containers as individual environments rather than virtual machines. Keep track of your docker images, unused ones can sit around and take up a bit of storage as you start to get a lot going. Volume mapping and port mapping are your best friends. Portainer makes it easy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MuffelMonster · 2023-11-23 14:57 Topping DX3 Pro+ is the one I have. Pretty nice ADC. Then you need an AMP and loudspeakers, and you are done. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mshelby5 · 2023-11-23 15:00 As someone else mentioned, I just got sick and tired of online 'service' companies seeing me as a product or as a 'means to an end' that only has to be manipulated or prodded to get the result THEY are after. Years ago, I saw that celebrities were getting PAID to wear fashion but normal chumps like me were wearing brands from head to toe trying to identify with that 'cool factor.' Now, I try not to wear shirts or hats with logo's, etc... even the sports teams I like. Same, with few exceptions. And I hate that so many apps are just vehicles used to market to me so they can grab MY data for free! Hey, if you want my data, make me an offer on the free market! I want the same opportunities offered to the rich and famous. And lastly, I agree with someone who mentioned streaming services and their offerings which are diminished and constricted to 'encourage' you to 'level up' for services that used to be included at the level you signed up for or paid for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mar0th · 2023-11-23 15:15 This happened to me too. I had over 1000 creations published in Sporepedia and when I changed my computer I decided to just re- download them from the servers instead of copying them from the old pc, but they were almost all gone ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dornith · 2023-11-23 15:18 "What happens if they shut down the server?" "They promised never to do that?" "And is that promise legally binding? What happens if they go out of business?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nairou · 2023-11-23 15:28 Very interesting points... Can I ask what you use for the ripping/compression? Last time I tried it (very long time ago) it required a collection of custom tools with specific settings to do a good job, which I wouldn't know how to find now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nairou · 2023-11-23 15:31 Dang that's a lot of storage... I assume you're using traditional magnetic drives for this? I assume SSDs would last longer and use less power, but be far more expensive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- swiftb3 · 2023-11-23 16:46 A bunch of Mythbusters fans edited EVERY episode to cut out all the repeated bits they do after every commercial and put it in order so you watch one myth and then the other, rather than swapping back and forth. https://www.reddit.com/r/smyths/comments/8gix4w/streamlined_mythbuster s_complete_may_2018_update/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FrozenLogger · 2023-11-23 17:05 This was quite a long time ago (2000-2005), it was really simplistic by todays standards but tailored to my needs. All of that is long gone now, it is just what kicked off my interest in hosting my own stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 46and2ahed · 2023-11-23 17:09 Youtube and Google in general. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- projector_man · 2023-11-23 17:17 Same, though never really thought about it in those terms before ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_Arman · 2023-11-23 17:36 I took the long way out, waited the five years and dropped them. I've heard rumors of getting out early, but haven't experienced it myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GenerlAce · 2023-11-23 17:41 I’m using Aqara devices with a Sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb stick in my pc running home assistant. So far all Aqara devices I’ve tried, have paired up with it no problem. I used to have a few different zigbee devices with their own hubs, but it became more cumbersome for no reason for my uses. So i would recommend a standalone zigbee hub/stick to handle your zigbee devices. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Big-Finding2976 · 2023-11-23 18:16 Yeelight bulbs and light strips have LAN control too. The Tapo light strip I just bought doesn't, but it was half the price of the Yeelight one, and that's only 2m whereas the Tapo is 5m. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- naffhouse · 2023-11-23 18:23 Napster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_Arman · 2023-11-23 18:55 I used to use ffmpeg and some crazy script I cobbled together, but these days I just use Handbrake - even the default settings are pretty good, and I don't need to go through a whole process to rip a DVD, it just works, all in one step! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ratcodes · 2023-11-23 19:00 AI, ironically. specifically, my data being used to train big models without my consent (or, sneakily un-opt-out-able consent by using services online). it's been accelerating the enshittification of everything by a ton. self-hosting has been a nice reprieve honestly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HoustonBOFH · 2023-11-23 19:10 >A separate issue, but aligning with your point, I'm especially concerned for podcast listeners. A lot can be surmised about someone if one knew exactly which figures they choose to listen to. Especially with modern tools. Especially in the global political climate of \~5 years from now. This is the thing that takes me straight into tinfoil hat territory. Add in social media coordinated events and rsvps. All we need is the next Joe Mcarthy and a "List of known subversives." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- d94ae8954744d3b0 · 2023-11-23 19:21 That happened to me with _Cosmos_. Not even a new show. It was 30-some years old at the time, I think. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ArcRust · 2023-11-23 19:24 For me, the constant outrage and fear that newsnews outlets produce turned me into a minor doomsday pepper. I'm mostly prepared for a natural disaster. But that hobby kept growing. I started to become a data hoarder. Lots of books, movies, etc. The next step was the shift from physical media to streaming services. I started to feel like my ability to have access to media without the internet was dwindling and thus I invested in a NAS. Then I started to get fascinated by psychedelic assisted therapy. Because of the nature of my job, I felt like I needed to increase my privacy because of the things I was looking into. I haven't yet taken the step to fully host all my chat apps and what not, but I'm in this phase now. Right now, the extent of my "privacy centric" actions extends to just Signal and a VPN. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- maevian · 2023-11-23 19:37 Their is Roon, but you have to pay a subscription the price of Spotify to self host their services ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lev400 · 2023-11-23 19:44 And what’s the range on a single Somoff USB zigbee bridge ? Just one need for the entire house ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 20:03 Cbz or cbr formats are zip/rar archives. What I saw was if there's a folder in the root of the archive with the comic/book pages inside, the folder needs to be removed and just put the pages at the root of the archive. I just need to code this workaround to automate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 20:04 Yeah I'm pretty plain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-23 20:06 I plan to learn docker, just didn't want to rush through it when installing a service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WorthyFroglet · 2023-11-23 20:40 Also ironic that we are talking about enshittification... on Reddit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GenerlAce · 2023-11-23 20:41 I’m not 100% the max. But I’d say about 75 meters without extenders. But zigbee smart outlets and light switches will act as extenders and create a mesh network. I have 6 smart plugs throughout my house for lights and reboot device reasons + I have Aqara light switches. I’ve had 0 connection issues in my 1600 sq foot home. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Livid_Bee_5150 · 2023-11-23 21:26 Do you have a faraday cage? Honestly that's probably the first thing I would do if I was a prepped, put a ton of technical manuals and textbooks on a hard drive and stick it in there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -my_dude · 2023-11-23 21:30 Archiving ASMR Youtube Channels TBH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- havock · 2023-11-23 21:53 If I can learn docker so can you. I installed portainer, basically the only thing I use it for is to find out if a container is running or not, to read the logs, and to stop/start when troubleshooting. Everything else I do in cli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- havock · 2023-11-23 21:56 Check to see if you can flash them with tasmota or esphome. Takes the cloud out of the plug ---------------------------------------------------------------------- havock · 2023-11-23 22:03 lol, A buddy and I were talking video games and I said something about graphics 20 years ago. He laughed and said “they didn’t have graphics like that in ‘83. I gave him a moment and then he said “oh fuck, you meant 2003…” ---------------------------------------------------------------------- therealmrj05hua · 2023-11-23 22:12 My issue is I want to be spoiled like the comic reader apps where it zooms pane to pane. I wouldn't mind coding it to auto unzip and unpack. Great idea for a python project. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- slumdogbi · 2023-11-23 22:28 How do you do now? You are using something for backup iCloud Photos? How do you manage to see the photos outside of photos app? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LastTreestar · 2023-11-23 23:56 The dots I haven't connected is how to use my own server with no public DNS name on a work computer. I don't want to deal with a public server (VPS) or a DNS name that points to my LAN. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nebabon · 2023-11-24 00:16 HA is what? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- letsfucknpollit · 2023-11-24 00:19 Factual ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-24 00:33 The answer is don't - not from your work machine It's a great way to land yourself in hot water ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LastTreestar · 2023-11-24 00:54 In what manner? I am allowed to do reasonable personal stuff on the work computer during breaks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpongederpSquarefap · 2023-11-24 01:00 Data exfiltration is where my mind goes to But if you're allowed to, my recommendation would be having a VM on your host at home with Chrome Remote Desktop on it or something like that (Apache Guacamole maybe?) CRD will solve your domain problem, but Guacamole won't ---------------------------------------------------------------------- El_profesor_ · 2023-11-24 01:34 Love this post. Good example of why empowerment matters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GlowHurtHuman · 2023-11-24 02:07 That looks interesting! Thanks for sharing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lolslim · 2023-11-24 02:57 I was motivated to do it and do a pull request, but I am not well verse with open source stuff since that method appears to be not following the guidelines? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jaegan438 · 2023-11-24 04:29 Hmm. I'm not sure I'd want some of that stuff gone, but that does sound like an interesting project. I'll have to check it out. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlexFullmoon · 2023-11-24 07:03 SafeInCloud. Not as pure and audited as more known ones, but good enough for me, syncs over webDAV and has native clients with actually good UX. I also run a backup instance of Vaultwarden in case I need some passwords on a new device over LAN/VPN. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 4LAc · 2023-11-24 09:20 Home Assistant https://www.home-assistant.io/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- h311m4n000 · 2023-11-24 15:36 The gradual move to lease/rent everything instead of owning it. That's how they keep you consuming and spending money without actually owning anything. Everyone's always been telling me get netflix, get disney+ for the kids. So what, I can spend 100$+ a month for these services because one show I want is not on this platform? Fuuuhuuuk this. Arr is the way. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aje14700 · 2023-11-24 17:32 Thank you very much, I'll be checking this out later ---------------------------------------------------------------------- North-Estate6448 · 2023-11-24 20:40 Same, and if you get Jellyfin + Sonnar/Radarr, you don't have to pay for streaming services either. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kFURVqNY2BAxD2UtP2rq · 2023-11-25 14:39 Relief? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PovilasID · 2023-11-25 14:59 My age. I remember about a decade ago when wiping your phone daily to install the new ROM was not that much big deal. I think a lot of stuff was unstable more unstable than it is now but we relied less on it. Now. I can not imagine loosing some data or some things that are important to me. Also regulation. I worked in ecosystem that if it was a cloud service you would have to sooo much extra time on paperwork for only a chance of not getting denied. There was also some other legislation out right eliminated a number of services. Local became only real option. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kFURVqNY2BAxD2UtP2rq · 2023-11-25 15:29 A major difference here is Apple was checking hashes of images against known materials and never transmitted/inspected the material themselves. A picture sent to a pediatrician wouldn't match a hash. So the claim here is that Google is manually inspecting all images, or at best, all images flagged by some back-end image inspection system, which seems a bit far-fetched to me. Also messages sent to a medical provider should be sent via a secure message gateway or encrypted mail at the least. This story is either missing a lot of key information or was fabricated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pmcgee33 · 2023-11-26 07:44 Here's an article about it from the NYT, was a simple search. It shouldn't be that surprising that big tech will find a way to screw over their users eventually. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveillance- toddler-photo.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kFURVqNY2BAxD2UtP2rq · 2023-11-26 19:57 Ironically, that is the exact sort of thing you don't want to Google. Thanks for sharing, that did, indeed, add some context. For clarity, the referenced "PhotoDNA" system is more like what Apple would have been doing: comparing hashes of images to a database of known images. My secondary point is that what Apple proposed and backed off of is fundamentally different from using a tool to analyze individual images. Both systems have problems to be addressed, but they are not the same problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlphaKaninchen · 2023-11-26 22:03 I used Lightroom CC and I loved it... but one day I looked at there pricing and realised that if I ever go above 1TB the cost will go significantly up, and so I decided to look for something better, I always had the full library on my notebook and used the cloud features many to view photos on my tablet and phone. Darktable + PhotoPrism can do the same so why not? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SpikeV · 2023-11-30 16:33 For me it was comixology, specifically the comixology merger with Amazon in Europe. At some point Amazon bought Comixology and shut off comixology.com and comixology.eu to integrate it into the Amazon Kindle Shop. What they didn't missed was the integration in the german/european Amazon site. The comixology App only rerouted you to the american Amazon Login screen. Had no access for about a month to roughly a hundred Euros worth of what I assumed were MY comics. Had an old Laptop lying around, installed Komga, ripped the Comics from their Website and never looked Back. Now I only buy eComics and eBooks from where I can Download the unencrypted ePub or PDF or cbz File. Now only If there weren't so many great audible exclusive Audiobooks I would switch that out too. Until then "Personal Security copies of the Data I bought" and audiobookshelf it is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent-Wind7616 · 2023-12-06 12:53 >RMS Who is this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent-Wind7616 · 2023-12-06 21:39 >I'm struggling to find something like privacy.com for non-US citizens. But once I've found a decent and affordable one, I'll be on that in a moment. This has the added benefit of helping with my budgeting. Try Revolut ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent-Wind7616 · 2023-12-06 22:11 >That one moved out of the home rather quickly tho. What does this mean? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent-Wind7616 · 2023-12-06 22:14 >I really started looking into self-hosted open-source services when Life360 hiked their prices from $3 to $15. They adjusted it to $5 now, but they lost me as a customer forever. Is there an open source alternative to Life360? Sharing that much data with a company scares the hell out of me but seems incredibely useful as a service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- D0ublek1ll · 2023-12-06 22:46 I hosted a minecraft server on my pc at first, but it grew quickly and I needed to outsource the hosting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Datajoke · 2023-12-06 23:14 I'm using traccar. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of life360 but it fulfills my needs, geofencing and alerts for me and the wife when we leave/arrive at home/work + live location feed. Not the most user-friendly setup but acceptable performance. The android app doesn't drain the battery with my current settings. You can even add one of those car tracking units (which I plan to do soon) to your server. You can also add speeding alerts. My understanding is that traccar is quite customizable, but I haven't study the docs deep enough to configure the additional settings. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- distinctRabbit · 2023-12-30 03:59 For me it was the following: I wanted to run my own Minecraft server without incurring a monthly/yearly subscription fee. I discovered servers and the concept of self hosting from that experience. I wanted a better alternate method to reading manga that wasn’t plagued by ads or limitations. Previously, I had a Discord server where’d I keep track of what I was reading alongside using MAL. Still was too lazy to check either of them. I switched over to Tachidesk where I can pick off from where I’d started. It’s still a flawed system but a better middle ground for someone as lazy as I am. Tons of porn was being deleted.