zrok Drives; First Preview reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- michael_quigley · 2023-11-21 21:56 The very first drop of the new zrok "drives" functionality is available for both open source and zrok.io users. This first release is just a bare-bones preview of new network drive support on top of a secure, peer-to-peer OpenZiti network overlay. In the pipeline are slick synchronization; single-command upload/download support ("wormholes") and a host of other features. Also planning on having S3 support early next year. Wrote a little blog post about the new functionality: https://blog.openziti.io/zrok-drives-an-early-preview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- autogyrophilia · 2023-11-21 22:35 Frankly I don't see myself using this anytime soon. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- d4nm3d · 2023-11-21 22:53 ftfy : "frankly, my dear, i don't currently give a damn" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lovethemchubby32 · 2023-11-22 01:44 Looks pretty cool. Definitely interested in trying it out and seeing how file sharing works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PhilipLGriffiths88 · 2023-11-22 09:05 Out of interest, why? Because you have no need for distributed virtual storage or how it is implemented does not meet requirements you have? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- autogyrophilia · 2023-11-22 09:56 I guess I should have expanded on it. My issues with it are as follows : \- It is too complex for simple small cases of sharing, where a simple usage of SMB, NFS, Nextcloud/Owncloud,Syncthing, ought to suffice. \- It merges the layers of storage and network without really providing significant advantages to do so. Any overlay (tunneled) network and simple sharing will provide similar advantages with a much bigger simplicity. Of course one should always observe to be using secure file sharing protocols even on internal networks as much as feasible in accordance with Zero Trust. \- No experience with OpenZiti, but I expect that it may be a troublesome thing to actually control on highly restricted networks. I have assumed that the distributed part it's the connection, if it can actually distribute things between hosts, that's a failure of however wrote this post in highlighting the features. In case it does : \- It is not nearly as tested as other software defined storage. I can trust VSAN, CEPH, minIO... to be extremely resilient. Even if they do not mesh very well with zero trust, these services ought to always be placed on their own separated isolated network because of their requirements anyway. \- There are not overly complicated ways to do ad-hoc distributed sharing across multiple devices in both Windows and Unix. DFS, Syncthing, Rsync, MergerFS, DrivePool ... Basically my issue it's , too complicated for simple usecases, too simple for complex usecases. Additionally, in my experience, I do have some mistrust in anything that has to advertise it is decentralized - P2P as a selling point . Bittorrent, Syncthing and most VoIP telephony it's entirely p2p and you rarely see it as a selling point. Because it just works. Not saying that it has to be bad, It's just a red flag to me.