Hosting for Really reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jrwdisc · 2023-11-08 20:50 Hey guys I recently signed up to "rent my roof" for a new wireless start up in my area...they are installing an antenna on my roof and it will be hardwired to my router...they have assured me that my personal network would be at no risk...I am not very computer savvy and took their word but figured I should at least reach out to the community to see if I made a bad decision...I still have the ability to simply unplug the thing from my router and tell them to pick it up. Thanks in advance for any advice! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wora · 2023-11-08 21:13 Sounds strange. Do you have link to this service so we can look them up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- theBird956 · 2023-11-08 21:13 Is the startup an ISP? I would expect something like a modem to be between the antenna and your router. If you own the router, make sure your firewall is correctly configured. If it's not an ISP and some other service, you may be breaking the contract you have with your ISP if you are sharing your connection with someone else. On top of that, you might allow bad actors to use your connection as an exit node to the world (aka the reason you don't want to run a TOR exit node) There is a lot of missing information so I am speculating a lot. What exactly did you sign up for? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AmINotAlpharius · 2023-11-08 21:17 >"rent my roof" for a new wireless start up in my area. Looks suspicious already ​ >they are installing an antenna on my roof and it will be hardwired to my router.. It smells not very good ​ >.they have assured me that my personal network would be at no risk If they are wired their access point (I suppose this "antenna" is one) to a LAN port of your router, I am suspecting you are exposing all your network to the wireless network this access point creates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jrwdisc · 2023-11-08 21:19 Company is called Really they are partnered with TMobile, we did research the company before we rented the roof they are legit...I'm just not sure the technical details so not sure if it could potentially put me at risk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jrwdisc · 2023-11-08 21:20 https://www.really.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AmINotAlpharius · 2023-11-08 21:27 >https://www.really.com/ It explains something. You should have included this link in the original post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- poeticmichael · 2023-11-08 21:28 If they’re installing an antenna to your router, that means that it creates a “rogue wireless” often used by mobile devices signed to that company when they’re on the road. * Though this type of setup tends to be segregated from your network, it still creates an attack vector and also means that any third party could use your network/IP as a launchpad for a nefarious act. * Simple advice, disconnect the antenna from your router, and demand that they disable the ‘rogue network’ preconfigured in the router. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AmINotAlpharius · 2023-11-08 21:28 >Company is called Really they are partnered with TMobile, we did research the company before we rented the roof they are legit. Why didn't you write this in your post? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tech2but1 · 2023-11-08 21:29 They won't just plug in to your network and share access with anyone as some other commenter is suggesting. They want to protect their customers from you as much as you want to be protected from them. You really need to ask them, we don't know what they are fitting or how they are doing it. Surprised they are sharing your internet, I started a WISP and when we did this we'd have our own connection, we wouldn't just share the homeowners internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Legitimate_Farm_3095 · 2023-11-08 22:00 > “bringing the sharing economy to telecom” no thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- grahamsz · 2023-11-08 22:31 It's kind of a neat idea. The good thing is that they basically use some of your bandwidth, run a VPN tunnel back to their servers and their users are going to be pretty well isolated from your network. Done well, I don't see a problem, but there's not really a way that you can tell that. They tell you that there's no way for someone using their access point to access your network. There's not really a way for them to know that absolutely, any kind of vulnerability in their device could put you at risk. My gut feeling is that it's probably safer than plugging in a random tv you bought at walmart, but it's not zero risk. Plus what happens when they have financial trouble and can't patch a known vulnerability quickly, because their laid off their developers. Will they email you and tell you to unplug your device just to be safe? Or if they go bankrupt, will you need to get your own contractor to remove it from your roof and patch all the holes. I'd had a similar issue when a wisp went out of business, and it cost a couple of hundred bucks just to remove their equipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 546875674c6966650d0a · 2023-11-08 23:05 No reason a startup would need YOUR internet hardware to do their work. They should only need square footage and maybe power to install equipment - not your internet access, or your devices.... sounds really dodgy. Who is this startup? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 546875674c6966650d0a · 2023-11-08 23:08 So they're leeching internet access from the users they're installing onto the roofs of? I'm wondering how that breaks out money wise... And yeah, I would think they would VPN from a device endpoint of their own, and then just ride over the LAN of the home, already encrypted... easy enough to monitor that and make sure ONLY encrypted traffic TO a specific destination is coming out of that device/port.... ... or am I missing something? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 546875674c6966650d0a · 2023-11-08 23:10 Exactly my thoughts... If this is really financially viable without having people 'share' their ISP connections and basically pay the company's overhead... they would have their own discreet ISP setups at these locations. That wouldn't make sense, so... they're leeching people's internet to make their money. Nope. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 546875674c6966650d0a · 2023-11-08 23:11 If they're paying you more than you pay your ISP - I'd just sign up for a second descreet isp account, and just basically resell it to them at a profit. If not... well, I just wouldn't do this :/ Not without some enterprise grade hardware and significant configuration anyway. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panjadotme · 2023-11-08 23:29 > So they're leeching internet access Is it leaching if they pay you ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 546875674c6966650d0a · 2023-11-08 23:35 Okay, subsidizing internet access... still feels bad. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panjadotme · 2023-11-09 00:15 Huh? It's voluntary? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kasperj · 2023-11-09 02:52 Really is connecting a LTE eNodeB in your network. That device is creating an IPsec vpn tunnel directly from the device to their datacenters and then broadcasting a LTE signal out. All traffic between the radio and datacenter is tunneled and encrypted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kmisterk · 2023-11-09 16:45 ## Post Removed Hey, jrwdisc! Thanks for your submission on selfhosted. Your post has been removed due to a violation of the purpose of the subreddit: **Self Hosting** ## Not Self-Hosted When it comes to posts regarding applications in this subreddit, they must feature a self-hosted tool, or a tool that *can be* self-hosted, or some kind of related information, help request, or otherwise related to a tool that is something that one can self-host. If you believe this post *is in fact* relevant to /r/selfhosted, feel free to [message the mods](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to= /r/selfhosted&subject=Removed For Not Being Self- Hosted&message=[Removed Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/17qva9c/-/\)) with your concerns.