What hosting service do you use to self-host your apps? reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- luthfurc · 2023-11-06 15:45 I have been hosting a couple of personal apps (stuff I have built for my own use) on AWS. The bills aren't great. I am looking for a hosting provider to host them at reasonable price. There is heroku ofcourse, but curious if there are other recommendations? What hosting services do you use to self host? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- totallynot50 · 2023-11-06 15:51 DigitalOcean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- excetto · 2023-11-06 15:51 I use ovh vps as backup, you can also use hertzner. I've self hosted on both before the switch to hardware at home both faultless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- puppetjazz · 2023-11-06 15:54 I use my own servers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DevTalk · 2023-11-06 16:07 vultr, digital ocean, herzner, ovh cloud ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JL_678 · 2023-11-06 16:08 Oracle Cloud free tier on pay-go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-11-06 16:09 Since I’m a data centre provider myself: **Myself**. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simplixt · 2023-11-06 16:13 I have some 1€ VPS via IONOS for service like AdGuard and WireGuard ... But Self-Hosting is for me having my server at home and only do encrypted Off-Site backup. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Educational-Craft545 · 2023-11-06 16:15 Mainly Kuroit but I have a couple of Hetzner's VPS too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GOVStooge · 2023-11-06 16:17 If I were to use a service instead of my own server at home, I think I would try DigitalOcean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RobertDCBrown · 2023-11-06 16:17 \+1 for Vultr! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DanieloAvicado · 2023-11-06 16:20 Contabo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- charmstrong70 · 2023-11-06 16:24 >I have some 1€ VPS via IONOS for service like AdGuard and WireGuard ... > >But Self-Hosting is for me having my server at home and only do encrypted Off-Site backup. I'd suggest running, not walking away from IONOS. My experience with those guys has been nothing but horrendous (of course, might just be me, and a 1 euro VPS is a hell of a deal). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aaronryder773 · 2023-11-06 16:24 Depending on the number of services and maybe something which they offer, PikaPods? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- charmstrong70 · 2023-11-06 16:25 Hetzner for me but, word of warning, put a card on file. I was manually paying with paypal originally with no reminder. Missed once by a couple of weeks and everything wiped and they also locked me out of using them until I got it all straightened out (requiring a SWIFT payment to Germany). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wdrussell1 · 2023-11-06 16:28 Well the SELF in self hosting means I host it myself. AKA, my own server. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuckles6969 · 2023-11-06 16:32 I'm hosting on my own hardware at home. Unraid is the OS. very easy and cheap. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WiseCookie69 · 2023-11-06 16:34 My closet, OVH and IONOS :D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WiseCookie69 · 2023-11-06 16:36 Care to elaborate? I use both their 1€ VPS for my personal homelab, as well as their Managed Kubernetes offering on a professional level and can't really complain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wmantly · 2023-11-06 16:37 Any flat rate VPS provider like Digital Ocean or Linode. I don't need infinite scale, so the billing pain, vendor lock-in, and complexity of AWS and the likes are a go for me. Even for professional usage, unless i see a provable need for massive scale, i stay clear of AWS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-11-06 16:41 Do you pay for any services ? What do you host ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bmaeser · 2023-11-06 16:45 one 5yo intel nuc in my storage room, 2 raspberry pi and one vm (hetzner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sintheticgaming · 2023-11-06 16:47 I host everything myself in my 42U rack. Lol 😂 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JL_678 · 2023-11-06 16:47 [The free ti](https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma)er includes three instances and so even though I am configured as PayGo and don't pay anything. Regarding ter includes three instances so even though I am configured as PayGo and don't pay anything. , Caddy, and [Healthchecks](https://github.com/healthchecks/healthchecks). The third and most powerful one (an ARM-based VM) runs Docker and various containerized apps, including [Vikunja](https://vikunja.io/), [Uptime Kuma](https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma), and [Memos](https://github.com/usememos/memos). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simplixt · 2023-11-06 16:51 I'm running OPNSense Firewall on it, and it's running 24/7 for 2 years now without any problems, and I get the full 250Mbits speed of my internet connection via VPN ... I assume you get what you pay for if you would need customer support. But didn't need any yet and it's just working for the usecases. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Beastmind · 2023-11-06 16:56 Online which is now scaleway ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gerardit04 · 2023-11-06 16:58 Ionos is pretty cheap and nice customer service, but what's the point of selfhosting if you use a VPs? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-06 17:08 I use my own hardware. Proxmox on a PowerEdge R710 and Proxmox on a HP z600 workstation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Laxarus · 2023-11-06 17:11 127.0.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AxGuru1 · 2023-11-06 17:11 I use the ARM machines from Hetzner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PaulEngineer-89 · 2023-11-06 17:18 Doesn’t “self hosting” imply…self hosting as in owning the hardware? I have 2 servers (4 core) with a 15 W power each so they probably run me $1/month between electricity and eventual maintenance. Lowendbox.com has some fantastic coupons. Cheapest right now is $10/year. Aside from that if you can live without ipv4 fly.IO has 3 VPSs for free (ipv6 only). Otherwise at $2/month for a static IP they are still cheap but LEB has deals that are cheaper with similar VPSs. The Heroku thing is gone. The new rates aren’t great. Oracle also is hit or miss at best. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Julian_1_2_3_4_5 · 2023-11-06 17:30 a raspi and a small server at home with duckdns ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Past-Sky3552 · 2023-11-06 17:39 I use google cloud (startup credits) with coolify ---------------------------------------------------------------------- diamkil · 2023-11-06 17:47 I SELF-host, a server at home. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- crazyflasher14 · 2023-11-06 17:48 Piggy backing to say I also use the free tier of Oracle Cloud for a lot of my self hosting, currently got the following deployed - Caddy Reverse Proxy (Deployed on one of the free AMD VMs, the rest are on the ARM server) - Minecraft Server - Appwrite - Container of a flutter app I'm working on for testing - uptime Kuma - Changedetection io - Ansible Semaphore (Likely going back to AWX when I switch back to RKE2 away from Docker again, but wanted to try it out) I think that it's currently, but I may still have a lingering Code Server deployment. Anyways, happy to answer any questions! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HecateRaven · 2023-11-06 17:59 Dedicated bare metal server on ovh germany ---------------------------------------------------------------------- acbadam42 · 2023-11-06 18:22 Can't really call it self hosting it somebody else is hosting it can you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-11-06 18:31 Same I am having little problem though Drone t I can’t install it on arm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- furyzer00 · 2023-11-06 18:39 I only host 1 machine (NextCloud) and it costs me 5 euros per month. I use Hetzner. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fuken33 · 2023-11-06 18:44 I have a mini pc and hard drive at home and use fly.io for tunneling / exposing over cg-nat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- athornfam2 · 2023-11-06 18:52 I have a hybrid Azure/VMware Cluster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- More_Leadership_4095 · 2023-11-06 18:56 If I don't have physical access to hardware, I'm not self-hosting to the full extent. I am hosting my own services on someone elses' machines. This is not acceptable to me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-06 18:57 I too have a HP z620 lying around. What kind of CPU(s)/RAM are you running and how much $ is it typically coming out to if you have done the math? Always felt (low cost/free) online is better before I see real heavy traffic and costs adding up is when I can start self hosting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dotinho · 2023-11-06 18:57 Oracle free tier, for a year almost with no problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon-RedditAccount · 2023-11-06 19:04 This should be the top comment, as it covers all possible aspects. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- OkNefariousness1084 · 2023-11-06 19:04 Self host - self! Self! [who own](https://youtu.be/x5Xp9hvTvPk?si=XDpJtTpG2QbMCUzp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HobokenChickens · 2023-11-06 19:10 I was using Hetzner as a reverse proxy (static IP). But I noticed some serious latency (I’m US based). Ended up bouncing over to Oracle free tier and latency is gone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NaZGuL_of_Mordor · 2023-11-06 19:14 Contabo, very cheap for an ok VPS. Beware exposing it to WAN since their anti-DDoS is terrible... I recommend you to get a cheap domain and put it behind cloudflare proxy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cltrmx · 2023-11-06 19:17 Colocation and an old server ---------------------------------------------------------------------- crasx1 · 2023-11-06 19:22 Last year on Black Friday I built a small form factor PC that I use as a server for like $500. I used digital Ocean to host my production cluster, and then I have an at-home cluster I can play with. Best decision I ever made ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -ajitesh- · 2023-11-06 19:32 What services are you hosting and how much do you pay per month? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UnseemlyCorgi · 2023-11-06 19:35 Digital Ocean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- someoneatsomeplace · 2023-11-06 19:38 I'm leaving Linode because it's gotten ridiculously and unjustifiably expensive since Akamai bought it out, at the same time the quality of the support and the service is in decline. Moving to Contabo, which is priced well, but support is as close as you can get to non-existent without being non-existent. They make it extremely difficult to even open a ticket. It sure is a shame what's become of Linode. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- szayl · 2023-11-06 19:39 *Looks over at the rack with whitebox server and collection of SBCs...* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tiberiusgv · 2023-11-06 19:43 PowerEdge servers running Proxmox ---------------------------------------------------------------------- helmut72 · 2023-11-06 19:56 I don't cloud host, I self host. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jimoconnell · 2023-11-06 19:58 be it ever so humble... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sky_Linx · 2023-11-06 19:59 Hetzner and Bero Host ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DarligUlvRP · 2023-11-06 20:10 ::1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- prime_1996 · 2023-11-06 20:13 I have my own USSF mini pc running proxmox and storing my data, and use an Oracle free tier to run the *arr stack, wireguard server and for testing. It's been running fine for months now, but I can't trust Oracle with critical data. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- isThisRight-- · 2023-11-06 20:17 Yuck, but yeah.. I need to learn it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- isThisRight-- · 2023-11-06 20:18 You can self host it in the cloud, don’t be so literal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- EndlessHiway · 2023-11-06 20:20 Then you aren't hosting it, the hosting service is doing the hosting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- isThisRight-- · 2023-11-06 20:28 Ok ---------------------------------------------------------------------- totallynot50 · 2023-11-06 20:38 A couple Wordpress sites. Uptime Kuma, NPM, 2x Bookstack, 2x Ghost, MediaWiki, Memos, Monica. I pay about $20/mo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bloodrose_GW2 · 2023-11-06 20:42 I run everything on my own network, own hardware. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SR_Lut3t1um · 2023-11-06 20:44 Its [10.0.3.20](https://10.0.3.20) for me :D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AFatalErrror · 2023-11-06 20:55 Vultr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DWLeveller · 2023-11-06 20:56 I prefer selfhosting. I don't like the fact a company is in control of my data and apps. They can disable your account at any point because any reasons these days. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- xardoniak · 2023-11-06 20:59 99% of my infrastructure is in house, either on my Synology NAS or Proxmox host. I've recently purchased a cheap VPS from Vultr but I'm only using that for UptimeKuma at the moment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FalseRegister · 2023-11-06 21:05 For me it means that you manage all the software and the infrastructure, but the latter can be anywhere. So any IaaS can do. Say, a wordpress site in a managed site would be PaaS and you don't host, but self deployed in _any_ server is hosted by you. TL;DR hosted is not necessarily owning the infrastructure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BondiBlueBalls · 2023-11-06 21:10 Does self-hosting mean you host it yourself rather than paying someone to host it for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- columbo33 · 2023-11-06 21:18 RackNerd vps 10 bucks a year it's rad 🤙 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-06 21:23 Agreed. However, seeing setups like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/se lfhosted/comments/17p475s/my_network_setup_that_prioritizes_privacy/?u tm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) makes me wonder how long it will take me to get all setup and get my focus more on my primary work. Hence been postponing for sometime now. Btw, do you have numbers around your costs/mo? Any simpler setup I can get away with? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- chargedmemery · 2023-11-06 21:31 Guy is asking where do I host service X Y Z on r/selfhosted Does he know where he's at ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fat_keepsake · 2023-11-06 21:39 I use Hetzner for stuff that I need 100% uptime on and local servers for everything else or those that require lots of hard drives. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrAlwaysAwesome · 2023-11-06 21:41 +1 for contabo. Used them before I started self hosting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GamerXP27 · 2023-11-06 21:43 on 192.168.10.xx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- d-cent · 2023-11-06 21:44 Let me jot that down ---------------------------------------------------------------------- budius333 · 2023-11-06 21:58 192.168.2.30 and home assistant is 192.168.2.90 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- leggyybtw · 2023-11-06 21:58 r/homelab hetzner, contabo and vultr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- budius333 · 2023-11-06 22:00 What do you mean cheap? I only do Linux/Docker... Isn't unRAID open source?!? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Amro3610 · 2023-11-06 22:06 What’s your RAM CPU usage ? And which vps are you using pls ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- G1zm0e · 2023-11-06 22:08 Aws and home servers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-06 22:13 I ended up having a (v2) version of the z600 so I swapped out the Xeons with a pair of X5675s for like 25 bucks on EBay and found a set of 96GB of DDR3 on EBay for like 70 bucks. Got a pair of 8TB drives from a work client that was cleaning house, and threw a 1TB 2.5in SSD in there off Amazon, thing is a freakin workhorse ---------------------------------------------------------------------- a8ree · 2023-11-06 22:13 I used to use digital ocean and I regret moving my server to Azure. Their pricing includes bandwidth which doing things like remote backups fairly mounts up on azure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Verum14 · 2023-11-06 22:15 10.13.37.0/24 is my “i’m probably gonna break some shit and delete it in a month” subnet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-06 22:15 Power wise I’d have to check, I’ll give you an accurate average KW/h when i get home off the UPS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tharilian · 2023-11-06 22:18 unRAID requires a license ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AbbreviationsNew3672 · 2023-11-06 22:24 I host it locally, some people call it localhost. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuckles6969 · 2023-11-06 22:34 unRaid requires a license. They have a free trial too if you wanted to try it out first. Proxmox and TrueNas are other alternatives but a friend recommended Unraid and I haven't looked back. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-06 22:39 that's awesome! Same here, got like 64Gb DDR3 for dirt cheap on eBay, though I have only one E52690 CPU and a 500GB SSD. For what I am hosting now, should be good enough but setting up whole networking thing and security is much more involved I guess? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LeeHide · 2023-11-06 22:44 Hetzner ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HeyItsWilliam · 2023-11-06 22:50 Anything that doesn't ingest UGC (user generated content) lives on my own hardware at home, other stuff (e.g. Mastodon, my own apps) lives on DigitalOcean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cyborgborg · 2023-11-06 22:51 i feel like thd whole point of self hosting ist to get away from the cloud with maybe renting a small VPS to host a vpn to access your stuff securely and from anywhere and to get around cg nat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-06 23:05 Alright, so it’s sitting about 150w of consumption with 5 VMs on idle (which to be honest is much lower than I thought) so let’s average 175 for periods of load for the whole month, times 12c per KW/H where I live, that’s about 15 dollars a month in electricity to run it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DyceFreak · 2023-11-06 23:07 I disable it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-06 23:11 Realized I responded to my own comment so you might not get the ping, power consumption for the Z600 workstation is below :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- smithandweb · 2023-11-06 23:12 I see what you did there, sir h4x0r ---------------------------------------------------------------------- therealSoasa · 2023-11-06 23:15 Bad Simon ,bad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cylian91460 · 2023-11-06 23:17 Wait you have a dual stack and disable V6 ?! Why ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- proghoti · 2023-11-06 23:17 buyvm.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- selfhosted-ModTeam · 2023-11-06 23:17 This post is being removed due to the subject not being related to the "selfhosted" theme of the community. Please message the mods if you have any questions or believe this removal has been in error. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lakimens · 2023-11-06 23:17 Hetzner and Contabo are probably the best, I have a few servers on each. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ErebusBat · 2023-11-06 23:18 There is no place like it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- therealSoasa · 2023-11-06 23:19 Well if we're just making names up now... I vote Zoltan ( the Hal Sparks version. ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- proc-sysrq · 2023-11-07 00:11 Some things can behave badly if you have IPv6 enabled but not fully supported by the network. These issues tend to manifest as completely pathological behavior that take a lot of time to isolate and resolve, so for many people it's less overhead to just disable it and rule out a class of bugs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 00:20 I see; that is pretty decent for 5 VMs assuming that you are hosting atleast 5 web apps and bunch of other related softwares. If you go hosting outside you would be easily spending much higher I guess.In that sense it makes perfect sense to self host ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 00:23 I had a side question: did you have to buy static IPs separately or use DDNS? Need to find out if static IPs are needed for my spectrum provider ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oujii · 2023-11-07 00:26 A shame this community is getting so hostile lately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oujii · 2023-11-07 00:27 A lot of people starting hosting their applications outside and then move to home, others never move home because they need the reliability they would never achieve hosting at home. Not sure why people need to be so whiny about this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-07 01:15 i use a DDNS script on one of my webservers. I use GoDaddy as a hosting provider, and they have an API that the script can interact with, so instead of paying for DDNS, i just have the script check every 10 minutes and then update the IP if it changes via the API. I can send you the script via DM if you'd like, it's in bash. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-07 01:17 Yup, on the home server i have PiHole, a Windows VM for screwing around, a Kali VM that VPNs to work for web app testing, a minecraft server that i turn on once in a while, a Wazuh XDR server, and an nginx reverse proxy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-07 01:20 I also use Spectrum and for what it's worth, my public IP hasn't changed in 2+ years, so my DDNS script has been checking every 10 mins and doing absolutely nothing lol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 02:29 thanks! that would be awesome if you can share it. But it is specific to GoDaddy then? I run away from GoDaddy :) Only have a domain with them. Have you tried with other providers? Separate question: proxmox is open source I see but free to use, as I see some subscription model? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 02:37 That is awesome. I was with AT&T and my IP didn’t change over 2+ years. All good info, thank you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-07 02:41 Yes, it would specific to GoDaddy because of the specific API calls. If other providers have their own API, you should be able to modify the script to adhere to their requirements (depended on your linux/bash knowledge). Additionally, Promxox is open source and free to use, but enterprises can "opt in" to the enterprise repository for more stable software releases etc. Honestly i have run my home servers for probably 5 years and never had a proxmox issue with the non-sub repos, so it's perfectly fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 04:12 thanks, this is great info! I will try out ProxMox sometime on my z620 and will circle back with any issues. But since you mentioned spectrum too doesn't change IP for us, I would cross the bridge if I come across it :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- UEF-ACU · 2023-11-07 04:22 Proxmox is amazing! Post or DM me your drive setup and I can advise on the best configuration on boot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gl_drink_0117 · 2023-11-07 05:06 Will do, I am excited to check out! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GorillaAU · 2023-11-07 05:40 Yes, the cloud is still someone else's computer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Delyzr · 2023-11-07 05:58 Cheap Hetzner auction server with proxmox for public hosted resources. Private ones on my proxmox server at home. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr_Brightstar · 2023-11-08 12:22 You use that for testing opnsense features or a full time remote router? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simplixt · 2023-11-08 13:42 My Clients are connecting to the static IPv4 of the OPNsense Server via WireGuard. Also an AdGuard DNS-Server (another 1€ IONOS) and my HomeNet are connecting as Clients to the OPNsense Server. So I don't need any open ports to reach my services at home, and I have an private alway-on DNS server. I also can redirect the WG-client traffic to different Gateways, e.g. the Internet traffic goes through MulladVPN, but my local traffic goes to my HomeNetwork, etc. So yes, a Full Time Remote Router to manage all my clients via WireGuard networks and multiple VPN Gateways. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr_Brightstar · 2023-11-08 16:04 That's interesting, although a bit more advance for my current expertise. I assume you have another router at home, as backup,, with your ISP modem, right? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simplixt · 2023-11-08 16:15 Of course, OpnSense in the cloud is not replacing any WiFi router or modem at home. It's just some kind of "Cloud-VPN-Entrypoint" for my Mobile Clients.