well idk how domain works but why there isnt .fat domain ? is it possible to create a .fat domain ? reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Valantur · 2023-11-03 15:59 no, top-level domains are regulated by ICANN, you can't create one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jusepal · 2023-11-03 16:03 Yes its possible to create whatever tld you want but only you, and anyone using the dns hosted by you would be able to resolve it. Many here probably already created and using .local .test .whatever as their internal domain but its only resolvable by them. Theres already alternative root zone like unstoppable domain, opennic etc but there not much usage since gotta use alt dns and most average joes won't do that so the icann root zone its still the goto. So is it possible to create .fat? Yes, but only resolvable by you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- adrik0622 · 2023-11-03 16:08 Yes ICANN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-11-03 16:34 There is already `.com` for the americans. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pesfreak92 · 2023-11-03 16:51 I laughed more at this than I should. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nightbefore2 · 2023-11-03 16:53 America isn’t even the fattest country bro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-11-03 16:56 But its so much fun to trigger them with it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GWBrooks · 2023-11-03 17:00 I literally bought fatboy.run this morning just so my dashboard could resolve to run.fatboy.run. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KittensInc · 2023-11-03 17:04 Long story short: ICANN manages the top-level domains. Traditionally there were just given out to countries (the two-letter ones like .fr and .de), or reserved for special purposes (.edu, .mil, and even .com). In 2008 they started the process to allow *anyone* to register a top- level domain. There's a whole [application process](https://newgtlds.icann.org/en) for this, and it costs *at least* $185.000 to get one. It seems nobody has considered .fat worth the effort yet! So if you want, you can start a company and apply for the TLD yourself. You'll be able to sell as many domains under it as you want, so if enough people want a .fat domain you might even make a profit! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AbbreviationsNew3672 · 2023-11-03 17:09 So you can be fat and alone? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nightbefore2 · 2023-11-03 17:14 That’s.. weird. Maybe one day you’ll realize triggering people on the internet for fun is weird lol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-11-03 17:21 Trying to flex that the US is not the fattest country is also very weird. And its amazing that my comment causes people to reply who apparently have never commented in this sub before. I cant wait to see how this goes 6 hours from now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nightbefore2 · 2023-11-03 17:25 “Haha fat people” is an interesting interpretation of “simple common joke” ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-11-03 17:30 Thats not what i said tho. And youre taking this way too seriously "bro". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nightbefore2 · 2023-11-03 17:32 Explain the joke In a way where the punch line isn’t haha fat people? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-11-03 17:34 https://dev.to/kailyons/tutorial-make-your-own-top-level-domain-name- like-com-org-and-net-jhd You can, actually. Good luck tho.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CobreDev · 2023-11-03 17:38 You can, it just costs upwards of $180,000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tribak · 2023-11-03 17:39 I’m idiot, care to explain? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tankerkiller125real · 2023-11-03 17:45 Well 180K to get started, and then there are the annual fees, DNS hosting, etc. to deal with. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GWBrooks · 2023-11-03 17:55 Because I'm an optimist about the depths of people's weirdness, I like to imagine a whole business built around "name.fat" or, if you're using a subdomain to be creative, "name.is.fat" domains. Of course, the super premium subdomain -- i.am.fat -- would be at least $20,000 a year. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GWBrooks · 2023-11-03 17:55 Happy cake day! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fratm · 2023-11-03 17:57 I do believe that the new TLDs are reviewed, and anything that might be considered insensitive or offensive will be rejected. .fat might be considered insensitive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- hdddanbrown · 2023-11-03 18:06 Correct, they are *only* [11th out of 192](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate), congrats! Clearly something to flex about. He must have hit a nerve with you personally. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anticept · 2023-11-03 18:08 If you run your own DNS you can make whatever you want for a tld. You just have to point clients to it at all times. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kungpula · 2023-11-03 18:09 The common joke here is "haha americans are fat". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Solo-Mex · 2023-11-03 18:10 >.fat might be considered insensitive. Seems to be a systemic problem with today's society. I guess it's reasonable to assume then, that .fugly would also be offensive? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- puppetjazz · 2023-11-03 18:11 Americans got that thicc fat fat juicy juicy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nightbefore2 · 2023-11-03 18:17 So what’s funny? The fact that people are fat? What’s the funny part of the joke, please explain ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kungpula · 2023-11-03 18:22 I'm not op, I just helped you get the very common and obvious joke. I have no opinion on whether it's funny or not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tribak · 2023-11-03 18:32 Got that part straight away. Was trying to make a relation between “.com” and extra-fat or something similar but the joke is that “.fat” is redundant as “.com” already exists… funny one ---------------------------------------------------------------------- puppetjazz · 2023-11-03 18:44 .com is traditionally an america. Domain ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlkaizerLord · 2023-11-03 19:10 You say 11th, I say 1st twice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ikebook89 · 2023-11-03 19:42 Well, if it’s just for internal usage, you certainly can. But won’t get valid ssl certs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KittensInc · 2023-11-03 19:48 There's already .bet/.casino for gambling, .adult/.xxx for sex work / porn, .bar/.beer/.wine for alcohol, and even a .diet. I don't see any reason why .fat would be rejected. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kloeckwerx · 2023-11-03 20:11 What are they of they exclude Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio? 🤣 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IWishIHavent · 2023-11-03 20:14 What if I explain them that it means File Allocation Table, will they let me register it? .sucks domains exists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thisiszeev · 2023-11-03 20:15 This This is why I get up in the morning... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bagel42 · 2023-11-03 20:15 now this is the meaning of selfhosting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thisiszeev · 2023-11-03 20:16 I smell a gofundme page in the making. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- charliesk9unit · 2023-11-03 20:16 I assure you someone already registered YOMAMASO on that TLD. It's a Japanese company selling cooking oil. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thisiszeev · 2023-11-03 20:19 That's also the reason why Microsoft abandoned FAT32 for NTFS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thisiszeev · 2023-11-03 20:20 Happy cake day. Don't eat too much cake or you will get .fat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Captain_Pumpkinhead · 2023-11-03 20:24 Should've named it FAT64 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- davidedpg10 · 2023-11-03 20:37 You can internal to your homelab but nobody would be able to reach it. Publicly routable domains are like a waterfall. For example the `.com` domain is made available by a top level domain registrar, and then you can carve a tiny slice of it by using a subdomain like `example.com`. theoretically speaking you could sell portions of your domain too, but not a lot of people would buy a subdomain of a subdomain when domains can be cheap. Point is, it's a trust structure that starts very high up. So no `.fat` tlds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- preclowski · 2023-11-03 21:00 Yes he can. Issue valid certs vy himself ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fin2red · 2023-11-03 21:02 I'm confused.. why would you like to create a top-level domain about a filesystem? 🤓 /s ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kc_trey · 2023-11-03 21:22 I'm going to regret not buying it, but fucker.run is also available. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simmangodz · 2023-11-03 22:02 They were implying that .fat would #obviously# be American, but we already have .com, so it would be be silly as we would have 2 tlds. Ignoring the fact we have other tlds like .nyc, .us, etc. It's just a hurr durr America Fat joke. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tankerkiller125real · 2023-11-03 22:47 Would be the most expensive one ever I think. All in the cost is easily half a million. Once you deal with the application, lawyers, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CouldntVerifyCaptcha · 2023-11-03 22:52 how would sucks be considered insensitive? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GherkinP · 2023-11-03 23:03 there’s been like 20 million dollar gfm’s ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tomdoe · 2023-11-03 23:20 You're welcome. run.fucker.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IWishIHavent · 2023-11-03 23:20 One could register your name with that domain. Or some ethnicity. Or a country. By itself, sure, not insensitive. But it opens doors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jason_he54 · 2023-11-03 23:22 you can create one. you just need to be rich enough to create one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kc_trey · 2023-11-03 23:34 You magnificent bastard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fredskis · 2023-11-03 23:36 FAT64 exists as exFAT. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Frosty-Pack · 2023-11-03 23:42 i’m going to buy run.forrest.run ---------------------------------------------------------------------- from-nibly · 2023-11-03 23:48 Similarly fatboy.dance is available for fans of the original live action "the tick" series ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lutiana · 2023-11-04 00:26 I mean, you kind of can, but it'd cost you several thousand dollars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _Morlack · 2023-11-04 00:50 And the first 10 countries are places where being fat is attractive or part of their culture. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- soutmezguine · 2023-11-04 01:19 You my friend have won the internet today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GWBrooks · 2023-11-04 01:38 Dooooooo itttttttt.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- neumaticc · 2023-11-04 02:00 ICANN if IHAVE about $200k and then $20k each year ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PleaseChooseAUsrname · 2023-11-04 02:38 My ex is definitely fat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nebakanezzer · 2023-11-04 02:53 So you're saying icannt? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WildestPotato · 2023-11-04 05:47 Not quite, you would then need to edit the hosts file on every single device you intend to use a fake TLD on, not to mention browsers will redirect to your search engine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- chicknfly · 2023-11-04 06:25 ¡Si se puede! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- goizn_mi · 2023-11-04 06:28 con mucho dinero jajaja ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anticept · 2023-11-04 06:48 If you host your own DNS, you can answer any way you want with it. As long as clients are pointed at it, you don't need to touch host files. For zone records that it doesn't have, you can use DNS forwarding, which will allow it to work normally. This is how corporate intranets work. You do have to reconfigure browsers if they're using hardcoded DNS IPs, but there's no need to touch host files. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CocoaPuffs7070 · 2023-11-04 08:52 .fat isn't a recognized [TLD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top- level_domain) by ICANN, so it will never be available publicly on the internet. Now you can host your own authoritative DNS server such as unbound on your home network and you can make your own TLDs for fun. These will only be active in your network as public DNS resolver won't know what to do with them. If this sounds interesting research more about authoritative and recursive DNS to learn more about how domain names work. You can even go as far as making your own self signed cerificate authority to give TLS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CheebaSweets · 2023-11-04 09:01 you are the golden boy for this one. it has made my day ---------------------------------------------------------------------- viral-architect · 2023-11-04 10:58 Without clicking the link, do you know if I am responsible for the DNS infrastructure to support all TLD queries for my new domain? Hosting a global domain name server is pretty expensive, even if you don't have a shitload of sites. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TesNikola · 2023-11-04 12:38 Well, you should consider deleting your comment that is 100% wrong. If you work in IT, you might consider brushing up on your skills if this is what you still believe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jasonkohles · 2023-11-04 14:53 If you want to own a top-level domain, even if you do the bare minimum it'll cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, so the cost of DNS servers is a drop in the bucket. The fee just to get ICANN to evaluate your application and decide whether or not you meet the requirements to be allowed to register a TLD is $185,000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Valantur · 2023-11-04 16:40 You can't just "create" a TLD, that was OP's question. As stated by other people, you could buy an existing TLD or apply for a new one. In both cases, it takes a lot of money, setting up the right infrastructure and depends on approval by ICANN even if you have all of that. ICANN can also turn down the request for many other reasons. For example, no money in the world could make ICANN approve the creation of ".faggot". The approval of .gay took 8 years. You should try registering 'dumbasadoorknob' though, you seem to be very qualified to run that domain. Bye bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LordNecron · 2023-11-04 17:12 It's been a long time since I looked into this, but check out https://www.opennic.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ProbablePenguin · 2023-11-04 20:20 >Not quite, you would then need to edit the hosts file on every single device you intend to use a fake TLD on Not if you run your own DNS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CouldntVerifyCaptcha · 2023-11-05 10:10 Sheet im slow 💀