Best way to get email@mydomain.com for free or cheap? reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sevynz13 · 2023-10-08 02:34 So I have researched about self hosting your own email server such as Mailcow but it seems pretty divided on whether or not you should do it due emails potentially not getting delivered due to spam filters and such. So I'm kinda not interested in self hosting so I'm wondering what is the next best option to get my own email ideally for free but maybe settle for really cheap? Edit: I have my own domain already. Edit2: Thank you all! I have my domain with Cloudflare so I have tried their email routing but would like to be able to send from it too. I'll check out some other suggestions. Edit3: Wow this got a lot of replies. Again thanks all for the recommendations. I haven't had a chance to actually check any out yet (busy weekend) but I will get to it. Edit4: So I've had a little time to look at some of the options and it looks like maybe Zoho, onepoundemail or PurelyMail. They are both fairly cheap and around the same price. Anyone know how they compare? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RUNNING_IN_SPACE · 2023-10-08 02:42 If you already subscribe to Apple iCloud, you can use your domain for iCloud Mail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jusepal · 2023-10-08 02:51 Selhis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 02:54 Free? Not a chance. You need to, at the very least, pay for a domain. Domain registration aside, you need to decide whether you want only a forwarding address (incoming emails go to you@example.com but you reply from johndo@gmail.com) or you want incoming and outgoing. If you're okay with inbound forwarding, many registrars and DNS providers (including Cloudflare) will let you accept inbound forwards for free. You can use FireFox Relay to receive and send emails through a forwarding service which should be $1/month (is it available on this tier?). Alternatively, most domain registrars / crap hosters out there will offer you $3/month/mailbox. Or you can pay $6 to gmail/microsoft. Or you can pay $1.50/month for iCloud+ like another user mentioned, but beware that this is not true whitelabel email  —  your vanity domain is treated as an 'alias' and you are still using the underlying whatever@icloud.com mailbox account. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- opensrcdev · 2023-10-08 03:05 Zoho Mail ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Evil_Lairy · 2023-10-08 03:18 I use MS Outlook with a custom URL. Pretty sure I pay something, but it’s likely just the annual family 365 fee. Everything looks like it’s coming from my URL…none of the usual problems…and very reliable as it’s a MS program. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I-Am-James · 2023-10-08 03:24 Exchange Online Plan 1 via MS365 isn’t too unreasonable per month. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unistirin · 2023-10-08 03:27 I self-hosted on one of the public VPSs, I'm running postfix as MTA and Dovecot for IMAP. (no third-party mail agents involved ) So far, the emails sent by my domain haven't been treated as spam. Of course, it has only one user, and that's me. The only reason I am using public VPS is, that my ISP blocks the mail port ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lesigh · 2023-10-08 03:39 Buy the domain and use improvMX to forward emails to Gmail for free ---------------------------------------------------------------------- focusednewb · 2023-10-08 03:41 $4 per month. Shared mailboxes and aliases are free, so that's handy. Also with the paid M365 plans they promise they don't collect your data, which is better than free Gmail or most other email providers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rov3rrepo · 2023-10-08 03:44 How about if I want to take the custom domain with me later when I get off iCloud+? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DearBrotherJon · 2023-10-08 03:44 mxroute.com is really cheap and offers great service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 03:45 +1 for Zoho, it works and its free with basic features. But nothing else beyond that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nine14dotio · 2023-10-08 03:48 MX Route ---------------------------------------------------------------------- slowmail · 2023-10-08 03:55 For email, I use [MXRoute](https://mxroute.com/). They're especially affordable if you [snag them on sale](https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/182750/mxroute-email-hosting- black-friday-2022), which they have [now and then](https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/187261/mxroute-independence- day-sale). One possible option would be to use [Cloudflare's free email forwarding](https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/email- routing/) to a regular (free) gmail account, and set that gmail account to send all outgoing mail via MxRoute (using Gmail's "send-as" feature) with your personal domain; I also setup a mail rule in Gmail to flag/tag all email that was sent directly to the gmail address, so I would notice it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bekar_vai · 2023-10-08 03:55 This is not self-hosting related but if all you need is \*@domain.tld (wildcard and any number of emails) without the ability to send out emails easily, try [Cloudflare Email routing](https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/) , this will forward all emails to \*@domain.tld to another of your email (can be gmail or proton mail). if you need 1 to 5 inbox with easy setup and limited storage, try * Zoho mail : Easy setup, Five free inbox with send and receive on custom domain (afaik) * Skiff mail: Easy setup, 1 inbox with send and receive on custom domain (10GB storage on free), they also have refer bonus, [shameless refering to get free credits](https://app.skiff.com/signup?mail&referr al=imahroy%40skiff.com) * Outlook - E5 developer account: Microsoft offers e5 developer account to devs for 3/4 months, u can get 1 easily and as long as there are some dev activity, it will renew itself ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vee-eem · 2023-10-08 04:00 gmail is free and since you have your own domain and you are not a business, done and done. I think they are currently at 15gigs of space, e-mail and drive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rkh4n · 2023-10-08 04:02 You can use cloud flare emails to forward emails to any email or webhook. I am using it for a year now. It’s pretty good ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 04:03 > Free? Not a chance. You need to, at the very least, pay for a domain. Not true. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cheezecaike · 2023-10-08 04:05 Just came here to second the dev accounts with Microsoft, I set up a tenant last year and still haven't had to pay any fees or renewals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sailor_MayaYa · 2023-10-08 04:06 I can't send email but I can receive it I just have a DNS record that forwards me email via cloudflare for free on top of that it forwards it to my duck.com email which strips it of trackers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 04:09 > Not true. Freenom went tits up and the country registries have repossessed their domains. So, I'd say it's true enough. Yes there are subdomains you can rent out as well, but I would not consider them for real mail  —  out of reputation and security considerations. You don't want your subdomain provider to hijack your MX records and receive all of your password reset emails, do you? So no, email domains you should be paying for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 04:13 > Freenom went tits up and the country registries have repossessed their domains. Proper free domains from like eu.org also exist. Nobody gives a fuck about freenom. > So no, email domains you should be paying for. You could, but you dont have to. Quite a difference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- snowbanx · 2023-10-08 04:14 Ionos vps service. 2 bucks a month for a vps and you get email hosting for free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dogzdangliz · 2023-10-08 04:15 I have my own domain on Goode, have a free gmail and link the domain email (forward to gmail). In gmail you can send as and use your domain as it’s all in Google. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- platvoet-nl · 2023-10-08 04:33 If you own an iPhone: iCloud+. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FunkMunki · 2023-10-08 04:36 "We totally promise not to collect your data 😉" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iiRobbe · 2023-10-08 04:41 your domain and icloud+ would be separate providers. as long as you’re paying for icloud+, you can point your domain to apple mail servers in the dns settings (provided by your registrar) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 04:45 > Proper free domains from like eu.org also exist These are neither proper nor domains. eu.org is a regular domain (albeit operated by CentralNIC/Team Internet) and anything below it are subdomains, not true "domains" in the proper sense of the word. This is no different to registering subdomains under *.russianhacker.net (anyone want one? Thought not...). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 04:48 Simply not true. You might want to look up about public suffixes. Something like example.eu.org is equal to example.com.au and example.com and example.co.uk /r/confidentlyincorrect as so often. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AZDNice · 2023-10-08 04:51 I just came to offer [https://proton.me/mail](https://proton.me/mail). I imported my domain even got alias and a .me. Not to mention the privacy and security having @Protonmail. Just my thoughts if you DON’T want to selfhost. Just MO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 05:01 > Simply not true. You might want to look up about public suffixes. Anyone can [submit arbitrary domains to the PRIVATE section of the public suffix list](https://publicsuffix.org/submit/). For instance, I can get *.russianhacker.net up there if I wanted to. That does not make my domain any more 'real'. [.eu.org is in the PRIVATE section of the public suffix list](https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat) alongside other *.eu.org subdomains, debian.net, and a bunch of dyndns domains. Nothing you have said should be taken to establish this as a 'real' domain. About the only thing I'll concede is my assertion of eu.org being managed by Team Internet  —  while they do operate a number of fake domain registries for two-letter domains under .com and .net, I haven't been able to confirm their involvement with .eu.org at this time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 05:07 Hahahaha, the end. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 05:10 > Hahahaha, the end. Maturity Level 9000. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon-RedditAccount · 2023-10-08 05:30 * Combine Cloudflare Email Routing with [Zeptomail](https://www.zoho.com/zeptomail/) ($5/yr) for both receiving and sending This is the cheapest option, if you don't use iCloud+. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KillerTic · 2023-10-08 05:41 I would also be interested, but I would need a provider, that let's me use a wildcard alias and it has to be quick and easy to setup an alias, if I actually want to send a mail from one of my 'random' aliases. Little background: I run Mailcow at home and it all works perfectly fine, but I would like to lock everyting at home down a little more. But everytime I sind up anywhere, let's say 'amazon' I use an emailaddress like 'amazon@mydomain.tld' I do this, to track down who is selling my data. In Mailcow I have a wildcard alias, which sends all mails into my main inbox and 'official' mail address. Now from time to time, I actually have to respond to one of those mails, which means I need to setup the alias 'amazon@mydomain.tld' on the fly. Anyone got experience with a good provide capable of doing so, which also is cheap. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- hitpopking · 2023-10-08 05:42 I just checked zeptomail and I do not see the $5/year option. Am I missing anything? Only see $2.5/10k emails ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jimmyhoke · 2023-10-08 05:57 Especially since their cheapest tier is $0.99 (although you only get 50 GBs of storage. It’s very cheap. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0xsayantan · 2023-10-08 06:00 Search ms 365 basic engineering feedback program ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gybemeister · 2023-10-08 06:19 You need to pay $2.5 every 6 months to keep the service going so it adds up to $5 a year (if you send less than 10k emails/year). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CalderaCollapse · 2023-10-08 06:30 > not "subdomains" of eu.org They're definitely subdomains, but that doesn't make the rest of what you said false. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadbuttrueasfuck · 2023-10-08 06:39 I am doing this this forwardemail.net you can check it out. I think is 3 bucks a month ---------------------------------------------------------------------- atredd · 2023-10-08 06:46 If you are an Apple user you could check iCloud+ Mail. I had my own mail server the last years but switched to Apple 6 months ago and it works nearly perfect. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kocurek7 · 2023-10-08 06:46 I can recommend Purelymail for a reasonable price. It's 10$ / year, but you can use advanced pricing which might be even cheaper if your usage is low. I'm also using Anonaddy to manage my aliases with my domain. Regards ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-10-08 06:47 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KillerTic · 2023-10-08 07:02 Thanks! Probably should have mentioned, that I am looking for an EU based hoster... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KillerTic · 2023-10-08 07:02 Thanks! Probably should have mentioned, that I am looking for an EU based hoster... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 07:14 eu is the subdomain of the TLD org. www is the subdomain of reddit.com. DNS is not that hard. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- xCharg · 2023-10-08 07:14 >and as long as there are some developer activity, it will renew itself. I am rocking this for about 1.5 years now. Can you elaborate? What is considered developer activity from Microsoft's point of view? And how are you able to confirm if it renewed itself for next cycle or not? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Defiant-Ad-5513 · 2023-10-08 07:25 Yeah but you can enter subdomain.eu.org into cloudflare but not subdomain.duckdns.org so there is a slight difference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 07:28 DNS is the same. Why does CF not allow duckdns.org? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PnLE · 2023-10-08 07:33 Since you asked for free, Yandex Mail has a free option to bring your own domain. Please make your own security decision about using a Russian provider, I'm just answering your question to satisfy "free". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AssassiN18 · 2023-10-08 07:36 I use Tutanota, the cheapest plan is like €12 a year. Plus, it's privacy-focused. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PnLE · 2023-10-08 07:36 To join in the dick measuring contest, Nik is firmly right. Spam filters make active distinctions between ccTLDs and what are essentially glorified subdomains. Your MX rep can also be tied to that of the domain you are a subdomain of. I'll take the downvotes for this one, proper domains for MX purposes are not free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NullVoidXNilMission · 2023-10-08 07:37 Few options: - https://purelymail.com/ - Like a poster below. Email forwarding from Cloudflare. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BasD007 · 2023-10-08 07:43 Been using FastMail for years, not free but cheap for the services they offer. You can set up a catch all (*@domain.com) address and use masked emails as well. Great set of features for the price. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ParkingPsychology · 2023-10-08 07:49 >I'm wondering what is the next best option to get my own email ideally for free but maybe settle for really cheap? >Edit: I have my own domain already. improvmx.com and then hook it up to your gmail, you can find some guides on how to do that if you search for it. 100% free. I've had that for a few years, never had any issues, it's been very reliable. Keep in mind you probably shouldn't use it for auth stuff (but you don't have to, since it's all routed to your gmail inbox anyway). I'm comfortable using it, but it is a third party that could read or change your incoming mail if they wanted (but don't). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- michaelpaoli · 2023-10-08 07:56 >Best way to get email@mydomain.com for free or cheap? Get your own domain. If you go with a cheap \*ss disreputable gTLD or ccTLD, you may have lots of, even major, issues with deliverability, but that generally won't impact your ability to receive email. You'll need static IP(s), including at least one IPv4 ... should also have IPv6 IPs. You'll need an ISP that actually lets you talk in general to TCP port 25 on The Internet, and without the ISP interfering with that. You'll need to do lots of setup and configuration, with DNS, "reverse" DNS, etc. follow lots of best practices regarding email and configurations thereof, etc., to have a reasonable shot at email deliverability. But you asked get, and free or cheap, not easy, nor send. The getting/receiving is easier, and cheaper. Do well note that generally well and successfully sending and landing in "inboxes", and not blulk/junk/spam, etc., is decidedly non-trivial to do well, and especially if you do all or most all of that yourself, rather than handing off most of that work and complexity to some provider. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sevynz13 · 2023-10-08 07:57 How do you use your own domain with Gmail? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-10-08 07:58 The problem isn't necessarily just the parent domain, but noisy neighbours as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mincinashu · 2023-10-08 08:00 I redirect to gmail alias. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- drfusterenstein · 2023-10-08 08:07 I was in a similar situation beforehand. I really like posteo but then there is r/Mailbox_org which does support custom domains. But that's due to wanting to move from Gmail. It really is a case avoiding the eggs in basket issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Slendy_Milky · 2023-10-08 08:07 Buy a domain on infomaniak.com you will have one free email with your domain ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bekar_vai · 2023-10-08 08:09 I get email every 3 months that its been renewed. I have couple of apps scatter around and one of them is rclone, along with couple of Power Automate flow for onedrive. Not sure if you need to have exactly all this, as even when I wasnt doing anything, it did renew on its own. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rickk85 · 2023-10-08 08:19 I use CloudFlare for free for inbound wildcard to \*@mydomain , never needed outbound but i'm thinking of it. Any suggestion for perfect match with CF? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lilolalu · 2023-10-08 08:41 While Zoho seems very open and detailed about their privacy regulations, they still do a lot of stuff with your data. So in terms of privacy I don't think there is s big difference than leaving your email with Google. "Automation and Artificial Intelligence In order to provide enhanced productivity and predictive capabilities to our users, we employ a variety of technologies such as regex parsing, template matching, artificial intelligence and machine learning. In keeping with Zoho's promise not to exploit your data in a way that is not respectful of your privacy and confidentiality expectations, we make only the following limited use of service data for these technologies: (i) using anonymized crops of service data to improve accuracy of the algorithms; and (ii) using your organization's data for developing models specific for your organization. Our automation and artificial intelligence technologies are mostly powered by our own organization's data such as internal communications, communications with customers and internal documents as well as free and paid external sources." https://www.zoho.com/privacy.html#part-one ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thehoffau · 2023-10-08 08:42 Came here to say this... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tinuzzehv · 2023-10-08 08:42 I self-host my email, but I use Amazon SES for outbound. First year it's free for up to 20k {or was it 50k) mails /per day/. After that, I think it costs $0.01 per 10k mails. That's not expensive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadbuttrueasfuck · 2023-10-08 08:51 I'm on EU tho ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KillerTic · 2023-10-08 08:54 Oh that was clear to me, will check them again 👍🏼 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- arvindgaba · 2023-10-08 08:56 Cloudflare for unlimited free email accounts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-10-08 09:01 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- viktsys · 2023-10-08 09:28 If you have an domain registered using Google Domain, yes using email forwarding and custom settings on Gmail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- McMaster-Bate · 2023-10-08 09:33 CF doesn't disallow it, but you can't manage DuckDNS past A/AAAA records as it's purpose built for DDNS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 09:38 Its not that simple. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 09:41 Oh true. But the question was for a free or cheap option, and Zoho fills that. If anyone can find a free provider that does the same but with more user privacy in mind, im very happy to switch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 09:43 I asked once on this sub if I should create a DDNS service with full domain management and everyone basically told me that this already exists. So is this information wrong? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 09:48 DNS is. Top to bottom. Right to left. TLD, subdomain, subdomain , ... ad infinitum. I give you an example of how you can use that to create a FQDN which tells you where a server is located: server01.ny.us.domain.com. As you can see server01 is located in the state of NY in the country US. Pretty simple system if you ask me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lilolalu · 2023-10-08 09:50 I never understood why people expect privacy for free. I mean the reason why i.e. googles services are "free" is because you pay with your data instead of money. This is usually true for all free services on the internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Database_Traditional · 2023-10-08 10:13 cloudflare ---------------------------------------------------------------------- littledpurpl · 2023-10-08 10:15 They cancelled free Mail for domain, now you need to pay ---------------------------------------------------------------------- moontear · 2023-10-08 10:24 The E5 dev account is definitely not to used for that purpose. It is to be used for Microsoft 365 development activities. Fine that you have been rocking it for 1,5 years, but it could be deactivated tomorrow if someone would find out. Secondly the dev account might just expire / terms change at any moment - it’s a free service after all. Not something I would trust my mail with. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- McMaster-Bate · 2023-10-08 10:29 Tbh I'm not too sure, I've never quite been in the market for DDNS services. If by full management you mean you allow them to set the nameservers, I don't know of any service that lets you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 10:33 Thanks. The feedback was no one needs a full DDNS service for free. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 10:34 Yes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- McMaster-Bate · 2023-10-08 10:59 Public suffixes are domains *and* subdomains, and eu.org is a subdomain of the gTLD .org. Anyone can submit a public suffix to the list, take a look at the "domain" list. You are indeed getting glorified subdomains under eu.org and might suffer in email reputation because of it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ikbosh · 2023-10-08 11:08 Microsoft supports all this and likely complies with your desire to use an EU service, but "cheap", I'd imagine relative to the alternatives, it's not. To have a catch all you need to use the Mail flow rules, but alias additions are quick an easy from the UI and from Powershell. And depending on your source, and I believe settings, don't even need to be configured to be sent from, I.E you could send all emails with randomly generated UID's for each email provided your settings and permissions are valid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- n3w57ake · 2023-10-08 11:12 Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I used all of the highly voted solutions above, and landed the plane with infomaniak, with free email, calendar, meet, secure file transfer, contacts, secure "paste" and MFA, for the cheapest domain name cost around. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- therealSoasa · 2023-10-08 11:19 Use the thing outside your house , it's box shaped and man comes by once a day to check if it's still working 🤯 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- blkpanther5 · 2023-10-08 11:28 Cloud flare will do it for free, and deliver it to a mailbox with Gmail, or whoever. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- culturepunk · 2023-10-08 11:36 I have all mine running through Mailcow and works great for both home and business use. I have it hosted on a VPS though (which I also use for websites). Cost is about £20 a month for me as need high spec for business stuff, you could get cheaper just for email maybe at £5ish mark will do. When I researched it initially the consensus was home IPs may have issues with deliverability. I checked my VPS IP against online blacklists and was all good. So been running it on there since sending and receiving a few 1000 emails a month. Not had any issues with blocked email. You have to make sure you follow all setup like adding SPF records etc. Mailcow documentation is really straightforward in telling you how to do it though, had it running in a couple of hours. I do also have mailgun for more mass emails like newsletters. Sending 100,000+ out. I wouldn't do that sort of thing on a VPS, else could get ip blocked or annoy your VPS provider. +1 for Zoho someone else mentioned, I used to use that and was decent. Switched because of some controversy with their CEO and in general I'm trying to remove my data from large companies handling it, privacy, GDPR, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StebeJubs8000 · 2023-10-08 11:43 Just set up Purelymail on a few of my domains a month or two ago and it's working great so far. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StebeJubs8000 · 2023-10-08 11:47 Directly from the EU.org site: > The main goal of EU.org is to provide free **subdomain** registration to users or non-profit organizations who cannot afford the fees demanded by some NICs. Confidently incorrect, indeed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TriXandApple · 2023-10-08 11:52 You're on selfhosted but you don't know that you control the DNS record for your domain? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- xiongmao1337 · 2023-10-08 11:55 If you’re an Apple user, you can add a custom domain email to your iCloud account. I did this and had no issues until I decided to pay for proton. It’s a good, easy, affordable choice. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TionisNagir · 2023-10-08 12:27 Try purelymail if you want a full email setup for cheap, you only pay for what you use there. Or use email forwarding if you mainly want to receive some mail on the address. There are some free services for that ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shadow_hunter104 · 2023-10-08 12:39 Cloudflare email routing + Brevo (SendinBlue) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Itsthejoker · 2023-10-08 12:46 I use fastmail routed through cloudflare. Works for infinite email addresses on infinite domains, one fastmail account. 10/10. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ComfortableMud · 2023-10-08 13:00 this needs to be higher up! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- magicaldelicious · 2023-10-08 13:24 Just be cautious with MXRoute. Read their blog, look at their stack. While not the end of the world this company appears to be run by a one man team. I'm not a fan of their response to their recent "vuln". The response is rather adolescent and the termination of the account doesn't seem to be in good faith. Ultimately you get what you pay for, and if email is critical to you "free" will rarely cut it. It'll cost you time, money or both. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- willquill · 2023-10-08 13:48 I’ve been using mailbox.org for a couple of years for my custom domain. It’s great! I definitely recommend it. I used to use ProtonMail but ended up wanting to use IMAP, so I had to switch to something else. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- LavaCreeperBOSSB · 2023-10-08 13:52 Personally I use iCloud+ for this. Already paid for it anyway but its $1/month, supports 3 domains ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HalfEatenPie · 2023-10-08 13:55 It's not ran by a one man team but Jarland is probably the more vocal member on the team. OP also asked for free or affordable. MXRoute is probably the best value solutiom following those specific criteria. If you have better alternatives then please feel free to post about it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- magicaldelicious · 2023-10-08 14:00 Context is key. The blog is written from his perspective. If he's speaking on behalf of MXRoute as the company then this matters as a customer. It has nothing to do with the cost. Free or cheap was the ask, I get that. But cost and value are often congruent. To imply one can't bring up points or concern because that wasn't ask is an unfortunate response. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I_EAT_THE_RICH · 2023-10-08 14:07 Cloudflare allows email forwarding for free and it takes like 10 seconds to setup ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _-FeAr- · 2023-10-08 14:10 But you can send with cloudflare too ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HalfEatenPie · 2023-10-08 14:17 I don't think it was implied you shouldn't bring up points of concern but rather if you have alternatives or better solutions that falls under those filters then please share. The point here is that you're making a judgement based on what you interpret the founder of the company has said on his blog and making a recommendation based on your assessment without giving further context as to why. Yes that is important to an extent as you're bringing a solution to your infrastructure but at the end of the day, it's a product that starts at like 5 dollars a year. MXRoute is one of the best value for the costs within this space and has some great performance and software on top of it. There are some design decisions I don't quite like but it fits the primary requirements I need. Just like any service or software there will be design decisions made that you can't control without more massive overhead in time (e.g., rolling your own solution & maintain it yourself) or costs by purchasing more expensive services. I'm not trying to imply you shouldn't bring up points of concern, but at the end of the day at this market space there aren't many real competitors that bring this much value. Criticizing it is one thing, but how useful is the statement if you don't propose an alternative? Like what do you want the reader to do with this information? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mantas8 · 2023-10-08 14:24 There is one more way: check this [Proffessional email address with Zoho](https://www.peakminute.com/professional-email-address-zoho/) guide on how to do it. You can get and send emails. Also you can access emails via browser or app on phone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dsp_pepsi · 2023-10-08 14:51 I’ve been using forwardemail.net for free. I have it set up to forward *@mydomian.com to my gmail account. This is great because I can essentially create as many throwaway addresses as I need without the hassle of temp mail detectors. The downside is the free tier relies on a TXT record on your domain to read the forwarding address, so that becomes public. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IchVerliereImmer · 2023-10-08 14:57 Most overlooked feature is that you can reply from the catch all emails. Not possible with a lot of other services. This gives 25off for the first year. https://app.fastmail.com/signup1password/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rubs_tshirts · 2023-10-08 15:00 It's breen rebranded as "Google Workspace" and the lowest tier is 30 GB for around $10 a month ---------------------------------------------------------------------- magicaldelicious · 2023-10-08 15:03 You've offered MXRoute as an option, I see that. But you're also not providing any context around the service either. My original comment said to have caution around choosing a service like this. I made no judgement with the service, I did judge the adolescent response by MXRoute. Anyone can read that and see the first person perspective and the unfortunate excuses contained in that article. Just because it's cheap doesn't automatically mean it's worth it. I'm also not saying it's not. I'm saying: do your due diligence. To reply here doesn't mean you need to provide an alternative just because there are points of concern. You're choosing to single my comment out because it goes against your personal experience or you're in some way tied to MXRoute personally. Either way I don't really care - but please don't levy ridiculous requirements on your own perspective of what's right or wrong to post. It's my opinion, I'm just bringing up things to consider. And some of those don't look great - which is why I brought them up. What do I want the reader to do with the information? Consider it before spending their money - of which they don't seem to have any to waste. I'm not sure how that's not clearly obvious. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Myreteus · 2023-10-08 15:05 I used fastmail for a very long time but I got tired of the sync problems with contacts/calendar on my phone :( That was one year ago maybe they got better at it idk. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- skmcgowan77 · 2023-10-08 15:26 Check out Afraid.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ElevenNotes · 2023-10-08 15:29 Its not free. I wanted to provide a free service since I run three comercial data centres. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PnLE · 2023-10-08 15:30 Ah, news to me. Is this a recent thing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neck-Pain-Dealer · 2023-10-08 15:30 Skiff mail. Simplelogin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CeeMX · 2023-10-08 15:40 Don’t use the dev account for that! They can terminate it at will if they find out you are cheating the system. Exchange Online Plan 1 also is only about 3$ per month and you can create unlimited additional shared mailboxes for free. Just the accounts that need access by password need to be licensed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mugen0815 · 2023-10-08 15:45 Thats what I did ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bekar_vai · 2023-10-08 15:47 Well, I'm not mainly using it for that, I just found the option in my dev account to add a custom domain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- audiodolphile · 2023-10-08 15:52 Isn’t Google Domain announced to be axed by Google? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TuxRug · 2023-10-08 15:52 I also use email forwarding with my registrar for inbound and Gmail's send-as but I do outbound through Duocircle for that and anything my server sends me. 1000 free outbound emails a month, just had to jump a couple hoops to prove to Duocircle that I was the owner of my domain and to allow it to send on its behalf securely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- skmcgowan77 · 2023-10-08 16:02 Maybe I'm missing something, but it's free with an option to pay for further services. I had a domain on there for a while with DDNS and paid nothing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mx20100 · 2023-10-08 16:10 If you use an apple device, you can get your custom email domain and extra iCloud storage for $1 a month ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GideonD · 2023-10-08 16:20 I'll second Zoho. They are basically the Google of India. It's been a pretty solid service for me for over 10 years now with only occasional hiccups, mainly to do with their IMAP server. That won't be an issue on the free plan since there is no IMAP access. It's also pretty good at walking you through the entire custom domain setup and the correct DNS for MX, DKIM, DMARC and SPF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jason_he54 · 2023-10-08 16:27 if you have iCloud+, it comes free with your plan. 3 emails per domain, 5 domains max. You can enable catchall to receive all incoming emails, and just cycle through email addresses if you don't need 3 emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zholinho · 2023-10-08 16:29 I am using this: https://improvmx.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zerokul · 2023-10-08 16:33 I would not host email, unless you don't care about deliverability. I would suggest something like Fastmail. In cloudflare, you can setup the cname, spf, txt, mx records to point MX records of the domain at fastmail. In fastmail, the middle plan ($5/m or $4.20/m if annual) gets you up to 600 inboxes and aliases that hide your email and domain if you want. You can also use fm as an email relay(send from your domain by use of self hosted programs) This would at least get you off Gmail, which is usually a first big step ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lubricate5827 · 2023-10-08 16:35 How does Cloudflare fit into it? I could be reading it wrong but looks like Fastmail alone provides all of that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- littledpurpl · 2023-10-08 16:38 Since May or June ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dogzdangliz · 2023-10-08 16:38 Great! Never knew that & you’re right, thanks for the heads up. Think I’ll move to iCloud now as I already pay for it pay for it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- andrejarrell · 2023-10-08 16:40 I've been using [forwardemail.net](https://forwardemail.net/en) for a few years, but now I use proton mail, which is paid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aztracker1 · 2023-10-08 16:42 Would probably get a dedicated server or VPS from a general housing provider. It's harder to send mail from the main "cloud" providers if you self host. I run MailU, there's also mail-in-a-box as an option. You'll need to set the entries in your DNS for your server domain keys etc. With those set, Gmail and most others will receive fine. That said, you may face delivery issues with some Microsoft hosted domains. I've not been able to work around this. Note: MS actually has several different current and legacy mail systems. My issues are mostly on the older Outlook.com custom domains. May be different for office 365 or Hotmail hosted. If you really want delivery, you can route outbound mail through SendGrid, which has a free tier that's pretty good for personal use. I've used the smallest paid tier for a hobby project for years. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erupti0nZ · 2023-10-08 16:44 using mailbox.org with my own domains for years without issues. It's 30€ a year (without domain) and has docs for setting up SPF, DKIM, DMARC etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- obey_kush · 2023-10-08 16:52 You can use zohomail for free using your own domain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 17:09 Keep reading. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 17:13 I disagree and i have zero issues with email rep with any of my eu.org domains. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- strawberry-inthe-sky · 2023-10-08 17:23 To elaborate a bit more you can get up to 3 full emails that you can send and receive from, and although I haven’t tried it out yet they do support wildcard addresses that get forwarded to your main inbox. One thing to be mindful of that I’ve seen a few reports of online is that if you delete/remove an email address you’re unable to add it again later. Ie if you make a user “jsmith@example.com” and then delete it at some point, you can’t use that same name again even though it’s your domain. Shouldn’t be an issue with most people but it’s one of the complaints I’ve seen online. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy_Something · 2023-10-08 17:24 You can run your own mail server but given how inexpensive email is I wouldn't normally recommend it. You can get email for like $20 a year. The problem with your own server is deliverability. You can fix this but Microsoft and Google are both not fans so will junk your emails at first. If you do decide to try it exim + dovecot is what I'd recomend. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Itsthejoker · 2023-10-08 17:25 I use cloudflare for all my DNS, so it handles the normal site DNS and the MX routing and sending records since most of my domains have actual websites attached to them. So when I buy a new domain, I'll just set it up in cloudflare, then go back to fastmail and adjust the mx records to point there, then I can go back later and set up the rest of the site at my leisure. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dbhathcock · 2023-10-08 17:29 Go through Yahoo Business. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cardyet · 2023-10-08 17:29 Zoho is free, or purely mail if you have a bunch of domains and want more accounts, might be easier to keep it all in one spot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Storage-Solid · 2023-10-08 17:33 you could try [https://simplelogin.io/](https://simplelogin.io/) ​ or self host https://github.com/anonaddy/anonaddy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashhh1991 · 2023-10-08 17:53 I use [purelymail.com](https://purelymail.com) It's only $10 / year. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ASouthernBoy · 2023-10-08 18:00 how? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brilliant_Sound_5565 · 2023-10-08 18:06 Self hosting email just sounds a pain every time I look at, although I get why people do it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _-FeAr- · 2023-10-08 18:15 just enable email routing on cloudflare, and then use google send as with smtp.gmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- betahost · 2023-10-08 18:16 Cloudflare email routing or Simplelogin.co and then there is Skiff.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Starblazr · 2023-10-08 18:19 Migadu is 20 a year for the micro plan. The only time I've ever hit the send quota is when I had a lot of notifications going out for my dog's GPS collar. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bitwarp · 2023-10-08 18:43 Cloudflare E-Mail Routing + Oracle Cloud Always Free Tier. As long as you stay under 3000 outgoing mails per day, it is free. Some people reported that Oracle tends to ocassionaly cancel free accounts. Adding a credit card and upgrading to a paid account seems to prevent this (you will only be charged for additional resources beyond the free tier). Also, you get a free Ampere instance (24GB RAM + 4 ARM cores) on which you can host some services, if you like. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- releenc · 2023-10-08 18:55 I host my own e-mail server in my home using hhMailServer for Windows. Although it's no longer being updated, it is a good quality full- featured and complete server with both mail transport and support for both IMAP and POP3 clients. It also has good SPAM protection. The biggest problem duplicating my setup for others is usually that their ISP does not allow inbound/outbound e-mail ports to be open for non-business accounts. I'm lucky that mine does. My previous ISP did not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tiltdown · 2023-10-08 19:03 If you’re in apple ecosystem, try first iCloud custom domain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vcolovic · 2023-10-08 19:19 Yandex offers exactly what you are asking, for free: https://yandex.com/dev/domain/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- anthr76 · 2023-10-08 19:21 Migadu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HoustonBOFH · 2023-10-08 19:28 A third on Zoho for people who need free email. Easy and the price is right, but limited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sullitude · 2023-10-08 19:34 I've been happy with them for the last 2yrs! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamsy100 · 2023-10-08 19:38 Use iCloud +. It’s 1$ a month for private e-mail with custom domain and also 50GB of iCloud storage. It’s the cheapest I found ---------------------------------------------------------------------- coder2k · 2023-10-08 19:42 https://migadu.com is the choice for me. $18 a year with decent limits. So long as you don't abuse it you can host multiple domains. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rockypanther · 2023-10-08 20:24 Zoho is great. I have been using it for the last 7 years with zero issues. Though there is one more limitation apart from limited accounts - you can't use their IMAP or SMTP service on a free plan. So no automated emails out from your server if you want. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0xParty · 2023-10-08 20:32 This. I use iCloud with several custom domains, it’s great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- G4brym · 2023-10-08 20:39 You can use r2-explorer, it's a open source Cloudflare Worker that you deploy to your own Cloudflare account, then you setup email routing to send your emails to there and you will be able to read them there. Currently it only supports receiving, reading and listing emails, but sending emails and email folders are planned for the near future https://r2explorer.dev/guides/setup-email-explorer/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ASouthernBoy · 2023-10-08 21:26 >email routing on cloudflare eh i thought there's a trick to send from [mydomain.com](https://mydomain.com) but google send will just show sender as name@gmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- homemediajunky · 2023-10-08 21:32 Came to say just this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- emnightingale · 2023-10-08 21:33 I used Mailgun before for both receiving (forwarding) and sending (SMTP server) I grandfathered an account so not sure if they still offer that feature. If you are an Apple user I'd suggest iCloud+, you can have wildcard emails as well as 5 accounts and 50GB storage for just $0.99 You will be stuck in Apple ecosystem but nobody can beat that price for me! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- StebeJubs8000 · 2023-10-08 21:54 There's nothing to read. Being a public suffix doesn't change the fact that you're still getting a subdomain, not a domain. > Something like example.eu.org is equal to example.com.au and example.com and example.co.uk No, it isn't. x.eu.org, x.com.au, and x.co.uk are not equal to x.com. com.au is a domain, co.uk is a domain. If you register x.com.au or x.co.uk you are getting a subdomain of co.uk/com.au. That is not the same as registering a .com address, which gets you a top-level domain name. You can register .uk domains now, which would in fact be a TLD. co.uk isn't. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thekrautboy · 2023-10-08 21:55 > There's nothing to read Good approach. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arbuzus · 2023-10-08 22:04 Zoho can host your email for free with some limitations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vee-eem · 2023-10-09 00:27 I have a domain registered in Network Solutions and my e-mail is gmail. Not sure if they changed and I am grandfathered in, but it still works ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vee-eem · 2023-10-09 00:29 Mine is still free and have 15gb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COLBYLICIOUS · 2023-10-09 01:22 You can try [OnePoundMail](http://onepoundmail.co.uk) which is an reseller of MXRoute. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- linuxmel · 2023-10-09 01:35 emailWiz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DoTheThingNow · 2023-10-09 01:41 Honestly the first notch past the free tier is exactly what OP needs. I pay like $10 a year or something crazy like that for just enough for myself ---------------------------------------------------------------------- slowmail · 2023-10-09 02:02 > Ultimately you get what you pay for, and if email is critical to you "free" will rarely cut it. It'll cost you time, money or both. IMO, this is absolutely true. You get what you pay for. If you're using anything free, or at a very low cost, you should always have a "plan b" in mind, and maybe even a "plan c" and "plan d". Not that in my recommendation above, it was to use Cloudflare for incoming, and MXRoute only for outgoing. If something happens, it's not too difficult to find another free/low cost mail sending service. But at this point in time, MXRoute gives one very good bang for their buck. If you have any other low cost/free solutions, please do share. It's easy to say "email is criticial, and I'll pay top dollar for service and reliability"; but the bulk of us are frugal/cheap/broke/etc. Cheap is good, cheaper is better. If it breaks, we'll pick up the pieces and move on to another. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sevynz13 · 2023-10-09 02:23 So I've had a little time to look at some of the options and it looks like maybe Zoho or PurelyMail. They are both fairly cheap and around the same price. Anyone know how they compare? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- devshore · 2023-10-09 02:36 Migadu. They have a cheap devent tier that allows multiple domains and accounts and they deal with the technical nonsense. It is very tedious to self host it, and then there are issues where google sends you to spam folders etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- downtownrob · 2023-10-09 03:01 I love Cloudflare forwarding, Zoho works but the UI isn’t great, MXRoute.com is amazing, but a little known one I also use is the $1/mo Apple iCloud+ 50GB plan with up to 5 custom domains option. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ZackeyTNT · 2023-10-09 06:33 Tutanota is an excellent, reliable and cheap mail provider for this purpose. Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _-FeAr- · 2023-10-09 06:42 No,it will send from your domain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bradza12 · 2023-10-09 09:16 Icloud 0.99p/month, setup custom domain and receive and send all emails from your iCloud email 🤷🏼‍♂️ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wub_wub · 2023-10-09 10:35 That's done by changing DNS records, not something that apple controls. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrSliff84 · 2023-10-09 11:45 Running my own mailcow instance on my own domain. There are no problems when configured properly. All big mail providers like Google, gmx, Yahoo accept my mails. But you need a non-residential ip-address, this is important. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SnooHobbies8480 · 2023-10-09 11:53 Why not use https://mailbox.org. And a cheap. Xyz domain from porkbun their cheapest plan is like 3 euro en you can get. Xyz for like 3 bucks for the 1st year ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brilliant-Oven9769 · 2023-10-09 13:46 Use Zoho, I am using for last 2 years. For personal use it's completely free and you can create max 5 email for your custom domain free of cost ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rov3rrepo · 2023-10-09 14:22 Never needed a domain. GitHub and Tailscale serve my needs well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- abehidek · 2023-10-09 18:11 Through self hosting you can receive emails easily, the problem will be filtering spam appropriately but I think mailcow comes with spam filter. If you really worry about email deliver, you either: \- Setup a proper configuration for IP (Non-residential), Reverse DNS and other requirements along with constantly verifying if your IP is on any blacklist. \- Use an external service such as SendGrid to send emails By using an external service, you have almost 100% control on receiving, where to store your emails, domain config and email aliases, I think it's worth it for what I know, you'll only outsourcing sending emails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrewisaware · 2023-10-10 02:14 Hostgator allows unlimited email addresses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Professional_Yam_130 · 2023-10-10 03:45 fastmail ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadsealions · 2023-10-11 06:16 Google businesses suite or whatever it's called these days. I am paying $6 a month to them and about $15 a year to ws domains. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-10-11 16:05 That’s per email 6$ very expensive for me at least ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadsealions · 2023-10-11 16:23 Nope, I have unlimited email address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-10-11 16:24 Please tell me how ? And only for 6 $ you have unlimited emails considering you paid for domain separately ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadsealions · 2023-10-11 16:30 There is a setting with in the admin side of Google businesses suite which basically allows you get all email sent to that domain. They all go into the same email box. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-10-11 16:58 I know that but how to revert from any one of the catch all address i which the email was received? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadsealions · 2023-10-11 17:23 Not sure I understand the question. If you mean can you send from one of the catch all addresses, you can't as far as I know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DIBSSB · 2023-10-12 03:36 So you have admin@domain.com And all email are routed to this address Like Netflix@domain.com you had used to signup for Netflix And you want to send netfix mail from Netflix@domain.com What do you do ? Considering domain.com is your domain ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sadsealions · 2023-10-12 03:47 Yes, that's it. (it's not admin however). So for each service I sign up has its own email address. This makes it easy to sort emailed (by using rules) and to see who sold my email address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Zapt01 · 2023-10-12 04:34 For me, the easiest approach was to find a hosting service for your domain that includes email. As you’ve probably noticed, some of the really cheap ones offer email but basically say it’s unsupported. .. probably because they jam so many domains on each server that they inevitably ALL get blocked as spam purveyors. I used Hostgator for years until they became too expensive. I later switched to Whois (very affordable), and their email service seems fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Exerra · 2023-10-23 20:22 IMAP doesn't work on free accounts but SMTP does. I've used SMTP for years now without paying a cent.