Question about writing a will reddit / selfhosted ---------------------------------------------------------------------- maximusprimate · 2023-09-28 23:11 A few years ago I came across an article about how to write a will when you maintain a homelab that provides many services for your partner and family members. There was a template (I think a md file on GitHub) that went through all kinds of things from accounts to zeroing hard drives etc. Does anyone recognize or remember this? I had meant to set that up but have forgotten until now and I can’t find it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- maximusprimate · 2023-09-28 23:12 NVM I found it. https://github.com/potatoqualitee/eol-dr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- apbt-dad · 2023-09-29 00:11 Omg thank you!! Just what I needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Normanras · 2023-09-29 01:08 this has been on my todo list for much too long and i hope it’s crossed off by the time it’s my time to go! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-09-29 01:12 I was going to make a joke about Wills & Estates law in Australia and speculate on whether two code reviewers on github constitute witnesses... but the boring answer is 'probably not'. I really think this is implementation dependant. Good documentation is essential, but beware that your "EOL-DR' documentation can be stolen and used to compromise your network security while you are still alive. I am not a big fan of writing down one's master password in such documentations. I almost like bitwarden's approach to granting emergency access. Almost. The problem with it is that only the decedent can reject an access request. But, if the decedent isn't actually deceased but is, for instance, camping or in jail, he cannot reject such access requests. An ideal system would be one where a quorum is required to grant or reject access, sort of a nuclear codes "two key lock". Say your wife and your lawyer have a key each, and both keys are required to request access. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NattyB0h · 2023-09-29 01:33 This should be possible with Shamir Secret Sharing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_secret_sharing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NikStalwart · 2023-09-29 02:27 Neat aglo. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AhmedBarayez · 2023-09-29 02:29 I truly didn’t made it this detailed, i only have a cloud vm & added some simple text instructions to be sent in an email if I haven’t checked in for 3 days, but I’m sure I’ll use this detailed information Thanks for sharing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NathanWoodburn · 2023-09-29 03:32 I created a windows application that uses your yubikey to encrypt a file. I keep my yubikey in my wallet always so pretty hard for anyone to steal it. I figure it is secure enough. Just an FYI, I haven't updated it in a while so it might not work anymore. https://github.com/nathanwoodburn/eol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- literal_garbage_man · 2023-09-29 05:04 ty for finding and sharing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- speculatrix · 2023-09-29 07:48 You could double encrypt a file, two people know the "outer" password, two different people the "inner". Those people don't know each other, only your lawyer knows of them all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- root-node · 2023-09-29 10:21 I have been thinking about this for a little bit - getting old sucks. I installed Bookstack and started documenting everything, back to basics. How to do something, what this device does and why it's important. I then have a job that checks for updates, extracts the pages as HTML and stores them in several places that can be accessed if the Bookstack instance dies. This will be another step in that documentation, thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zarlo5899 · 2023-09-29 11:23 >An ideal system would be one where a quorum is required to grant or reject access, sort of a nuclear codes "two key lock". Say your wife and your lawyer have a key each, and both keys are required to request access. i use a physical safe that needs a key and a code to open and have a private gpg key on a piece paper in a vacuum seal box ---------------------------------------------------------------------- igmyeongui · 2023-09-29 11:31 I read that, and poor guy have so many subscriptions. He needs to selfhost a bit more hehe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Background-Touch-744 · 2023-09-29 12:34 I’m 20 and should probably start writing my will about my homelab now ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 316Lurker · 2023-09-29 13:03 I looked through this. Big recommendation not to rely on your employer’s life insurance. Get a term life policy. Employer life is good if you die suddenly but many people wind up in conditions where they have to end their employment and die slowly. Then, no life insurance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- maximusprimate · 2023-09-29 13:04 Or make a 32 character pw and give each party the first or last 16 chars. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- its_me_mario9 · 2023-09-29 16:50 This was quite the read. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- azadmin · 2023-09-29 17:02 I just have my wife know my master password. Everything is owned by both of us though. I wrote documentation on my lab and made a few suggestions of friends who could help her if I die. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TinyMicron · 2023-09-29 22:40 I remember the article, but I can't recall the address. But I remember thinking that this is just too much. I'd much rather just have an external disk with all important data on to pass to those who I leave behind. They shouldn't have to care about my highly specialized for my use cases homelab or selfhosting setup. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- codecarter · 2023-09-30 00:37 good to know as i never considered this scenario ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Weekly_Bathroom_101 · 2023-09-30 01:41 So, lawyer here, not legal advice. Feel free to ask your lawyer to put in a digital property clause in your will or ensuring power of attorney (for when you’re incapacitated). I have a few that I use with my clients, and I always advise they keep an envelope with passwords and such. If you’re paranoid to keep your passwords in plaintext at home, and no reason you shouldn’t be, you can print a copy of all of your passwords and such and ask us to keep it for you with your will. Unlike a bank, who might delay in giving access to a safe deposit box, we’ll give it to the executor (or whoever you tell us to) along with the will when we’re notified of your death or incapacity. We will charge you, because, well, we’re lawyers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PovilasID · 2023-09-30 07:43 I think eventually estate managers will have to include 'Digital assets' (more than just crypto) or 'Digital devices' or whatever they decide to call it as part of actual will. Problem with all of these self maintained systems are security risks and only way to solve it is having multiple 'keys' that have to be used. Think nuclear launch. For that you need multiple people. As one gets older... you lose people. Not necessarily dying but there is not an uncommon situation where you are 'last one'. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GorillaAU · 2023-09-30 09:15 This reminds me of an irc bot that lurked in a channel. Anyway, the owner of the machine hosting it passed away, with someone else maintaining it there after. I dropped into the channel for an hour when the bot said, "Where are you master?". That was it for me, too close too many memories (good and bad), and too many conversations. RIP Alex.