What's the difference between ban and quiet in ChanServ?
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RadoslavL · 2021-11-04 14:25

EsperNet presents the popular ChanServ bot, but there are two options
- quiet and ban. They do the exact same thing - make users affected by
them not able to chat. The real ban is called an akick. So what's the
real difference between ban and quiet? Can anyone tell me?

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NeedAGoodUsername · 2021-11-04 15:07

If using Atheme,

* Quiet prevents the effected user(s) from talking in the channel, but
they can still join it.
* Ban prevents the effected user(s) from joining the channel, but
doesn't remove them if they are already in the channel.
* Akick does the same as a ban, but also removes them from the channel
too if they are in it.

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RadoslavL · 2021-11-04 15:28

That is not true for EsperNet. Ban does allow you to join the channel,
but doesn't allow you to chat.

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NeedAGoodUsername · 2021-11-04 16:00

But that's literally what it does. I made an account on there just now
to test it.

    (to ChanServ) ban ##foobartesting foobar*!*@*
    (in the channel) ChanServ sets mode +b foobar*!*@*
    (on another account, running /join ##foobartesting)
##foobartesting: Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
(banned_from_channel)

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KindOne · 2021-11-04 23:11

The only way to join a channel when a ban matches you is if you are on
the exempt list.

To view the exempt list, enter this while op:

> /mode #channel +e

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KindOne · 2021-11-04 23:13

EsperNet uses Atheme and charbydis ircd.

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thischildslife · 2021-11-05 00:42

The difference between the two allows you to use discretion and
varying degrees of escalation in the moderation of your channel.  A
quiet is less heavy-handed than a kick or a ban.  Kicking a user is a
strong warning.  A ban is like being thrown out of a pub for being
drunk & disorderly and not allowed back in.

A Quiet lets the user remain in the channel to see the discussion, but
they cannot participate until the quiet is removed.  Some moderators
use this as a way to 'put user in a corner', and let them cool down a
bit.  I think of this as:
"Shenanigans by the likes of hooligans and ruffians will not be
tolerated in this establishment."

A kick will eject the user from the channel I think of this as:
"Go home Barney, you're drunk."

A Ban or an Akick (auto-kick) will eject the user from the channel and
prevent them from joining again until the ban/akick is removed.  I
think of this as:
"GET OUT, Barney!  And don't show your face around here again!"

I know of some channels where a bot sets an incremental ban when
commanded by a channel op, a disruptive user is quieted for a varying
amount of time.  If they continue to disrupt when the quiet expires,
then they get a ban.

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RadoslavL · 2021-11-05 17:36

I just wanna know something. Is Barney ok? Or did you kick him so
much?

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thischildslife · 2021-11-06 00:22

I <3 Barney.  AND YOU!  (thanks for the laugh)

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[deleted] · 2021-11-06 06:54

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RadoslavL · 2021-11-06 06:54

:)