Introducing Remotes reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- seiyria · 2021-07-14 06:16 This sure is a lot of words. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wRAR_ · 2021-07-14 07:34 Oh, some new cocaine has arrived. I also like the signature progression in the recent articles. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-07-14 11:59 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panickedthumb · 2021-07-14 13:31 > We're still just getting started. In the following months, you will become more empowered than you have ever been before, because you deserve freedom; because you deserve the freenode. > freenode is FOSS, freenode is freedom, freenode is IRC, and freenode is for you. Ask not what you can do for freenode, but what freenode will do for you. > Welcome to the freenode autonomous zone, the home of internet freedom - where we are fighting the good fight, for you. > For freedom, > HIH Andrew Lee (root) > President of the freenode autonomous zone I can’t tell if mental instability or drugs are at work here ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NervousEnergy · 2021-07-14 16:32 You fucking ruined my favourite network. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _crc · 2021-07-14 20:36 (disclosure: I'm still a bit burned out by the whole freenode saga of the last few weeks, so thiss might be a little more harsh than I'd normally write.) > Since the beginning of the internet, IRC has provided a pipeline of communication leading to innovations that the world hadn't seen before. Examples? > The internet was one thing as was e-mail, but it was the real time connectivity of IRC that finally shrank the world to one community. Many different kinds of people across borders formed groups across all kinds of different sectors which relied on, and benefitted from IRC and its ability to connect like minded passionate people, not just neighbors, together, be it FOSS, to translators, to whistleblowers, to you-name-it. IRC was the free world. You do know that IRC has nicer been a truly popular system of communication? The highest estimates I've seen indicate around 10 million users at its height, and it's been substantially less than that for most of its history. While useful, and holding on surprisingly well among open source projects and technical users, it's never really been a big player as part of the "free world" from what I've seen. If you have pointers to examples showing how "IRC was the free world" and "shrank the world to ine community", I'd love to read them. > However, the great attack against IRC eventually arrived. Similar to those we see on the message boards today, the freedom of IRC was too much for some to bare. It needed to go. The IRC War came and went quickly, and IRC, from a great millions of users when the internet was only millions of users, shriveled into a shell of its former self. From there, purpose driven communications applications, with user interaction and narrative driven and controlled by the leadership of said apps, flooded the world. What was this "great attack" ? What is the "IRC War" ? Where can I learn more about these? > Today, most people are engaged on their phones, all day, and live by the rules governed by code written by the developers but chosen by few leaders of large entities. Slavery has never been so far and wide. Never before has such a small group of people controlled the lives and destinies of so many. Except during most of history? There's always powerful entities ruling over the masses. Not ideal, but it's the way the world works. IRC is unlikely to be a catalyst for changing this. Your network is still subject to the laws of the countries hosting the servers, so powerful entities could still intervene if IRC became an actual issue for them. > Technology, and the knowledge to build said technology, deserves to be shared with the people. It causes the greatest progress in humanity when it's all shared - the FOSS movement that we harbor at freenode is a prime example. However, another war between the powerful and the divided -- the people -- continues. When we, the people, become too powerful, we are divided, again and again. It's the oldest play in the book, and alas, the most used tool by the powerful. Do people not have easy access to technology and information? Speaking of divides; didn't you and your staff do a bunch of stupid things that lead to dividing up the biggest remaining IRC network? [Over a thousand projects](https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus) either switched networks or abandoned IRC as a result of your actions. > There is another way forward, and we're taking you there. It is a small world after all ♫. > Introducing Remotes by IRC.com by freenode Seems like a long name. Why "IRC.com by freenode" ? Is there a problem with the freenode brand? Or IRC.com on its own? Keeping it nearly the same, "IRC.com Remotes by freenode" would eliminate one "by"l making this read a little nicer IMO. > Originally we had peer to peer. This changed to servers, which became cloud platforms and eventually serverless deployment of backend code. Today we're taking this one step further -- the frontend and backend are now one. So, servers (for peer to peer), servers (in general), servers (cloud platforms), and short lived servers ("serverless ... backend"). And now, back to peer to peer? Or something different? > Remotes provides a canvas where you can run code in the cloud, and locally, at the same time. We believe in a different path forward, where instead of app developers dictating how you run code, you choose how you run code. Everything, including the IRC client, the Text Editor and the Code Editor are simply modules that you can choose to require in your code or not. You can also modify and change everything, as everything is simply a DOM element. It's a new way of computing - with the source code itself as the OS interface. Oh, so more browser based crap? What about native applications? Systems without a browser and JS? Is there a way to run a Remotes system apart from the feeenode infrastructure? > You can share modules with others thru npm. We're bringing the environment that led to everything we have today back. It's time for the return of the power of the people. What if I really hate JS? Is there a way to use this with C? Forth? Smalltalk? CL or Scheme? > We're really excited about this new technology and hope to bring coding, and IRC, to people everywhere. Coding is cool AF, and we're going to teach it to you all! Take control of your destiny. Already possible without this. > Remotes is in BETA. Simply message me on freenode (root) to get an invite. We predict launch day to be in the next month or so. Definitely can't do this since [you have a problem with my preferred IRC client](https://gist.github.com/bensimner/8939ba5c9640f7ad2a310ba7 e23320bb) and won't let me connect anymore. > Just getting started Oh good. And I thought the drama was basically over. > We've already taken IRC further in the past couple months than it has in its entire existence, and we're not done yet. We're still just getting started. In the following months, you will become more empowered than you have ever been before, because you deserve freedom; because you deserve the freenode. I won't be empowered by things you are doing with freenode or IRC.com. I can't access freenode anymore as noted above. > freenode is FOSS, freenode is freedom, freenode is IRC, and freenode is for you. Ask not what you can do for freenode, but what freenode will do for you. What will freenode do for me, as an ex-user who is no longer welcome? > Welcome to the freenode autonomous zone, the home of internet freedom - where we are fighting the good fight, for you. I'm still not clear on what you mean by "autonomous zone". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CatfaceMcMeowMeow · 2021-07-15 01:18 Please don’t post here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0c0dantes · 2021-07-15 02:16 So, aside from the lee hate circle jerk, is this cool / interesting? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ThatOneRoadie · 2021-07-15 02:34 This isn't your ad space. Take your hostile network somewhere else. Or, how did you put it: "[Aren't you that chump we cut off snoonet lol](https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zWnwKjQf/)" Hey, aren't you that chump we cut off /r/irc lol? Edit: Lol got banned from freenode for this post removal and comment. Thanks for proving the point on "hostile". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CatfaceMcMeowMeow · 2021-07-15 04:49 It’s a closed beta for some weird IDE that has nothing to do with IRC, so I’m going with “no”.