Freenode Is IRC; As In "Dumbest Takeover In History" reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Revolutionary_Cydia · 2021-06-16 15:14 Time to move on to better things… ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-06-16 17:03 I'm honestly glad. If this kills IRC then I won't be asked to use it to get support anymore. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sim642 · 2021-06-16 17:18 Lol. IRC didn't die because of it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wRAR_ · 2021-06-16 17:43 Spoiler: it won't. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-06-16 17:56 I didn't say that it did, but how many more blows can it take before it gets KO'd? I saw that a bunch of organizations decided to move away from irc following this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- schwiftshop · 2021-06-16 19:19 its a _protocol_, people can stop using it but it can't be killed... nobody really uses gopher anymore but nothing is stopping you. Even if the server and client software didn't exist or run on modern platforms you can still read the protocol spec and implement your own (the big change would be if we stopped using TCP/IP 😅) What do you suggest we use instead? Slack? Discord? HipChat? Facebook? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-06-16 20:35 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-06-16 21:03 I know it's a protocol, but having a disruption like that with one of the leading groups is going make some people decide to take the chance to migrate to something else. Matrix is what I'd suggest, it's not as featured as Discord but it's far above and ahead of IRC. IRC is still alive even though freenode is dead. Mint and many distros use it for users to chat and get support. I just open Hexchat and I don't know how to describe it except that it's hard to look at. If you know of a client that doesn't reflect the late 80s when IRC was created let me know since I have to use it as of now. Gopher is much closer to being dead than IRC is though. Sure there are some pages out there hosted on it but they don't have the life blood of Linux distros and open source projects trying to keep it alive. If they stop using it IRC will be a historical footnote same as Gopher. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MrOtsKrad · 2021-06-16 21:22 you stop that ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gabmiral · 2021-06-16 23:14 Matrix gained some attraction with Freenode's death ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KH405_TV · 2021-06-17 00:08 I see this as a good thing, i see this has giving people choice and freedom. What if something similar happens to Facebook, let's say it's bought by an "eviler" version of the Zuck. The pleb is still going to use it cause it's all they know and nothing will be done about it. Now if you could stop wishing for death of stuff that actually gives a bit of power to its users it would be great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Alpha012_GD · 2021-06-17 00:16 > Slack? Discord? HipChat? Facebook? All of this, + Matrix and Guilded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aedinius · 2021-06-17 01:12 I know far more organizations that moved to a different IRC network than leaving IRC entirely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zeno0771 · 2021-06-17 01:28 Right, can't be expected to go where people who can help you already are and have been since the beginning, long before you started using whatever it is that you're not smart enough to figure out on your own. No, *they* should come to *you*, on *your* terms using your proto of choice because you're just that special and important. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-06-17 01:59 I didn't say that. IRC's userbase has been declining since 2003. It's not that I want them to come to me, it's that they don't want to attract people to them. Mint bills itself as friendly to users leaving Windows and other than using Hexchat for communication it is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- zeno0771 · 2021-06-17 04:36 > it's that they don't want to attract people to them Who do you think you are that they should want you there? IRC predates Mint, and Windows 3.x, and the Linux kernel, and you. You're not paying them for support and no one owes you anything. You want help with a Linux distro that's been made simple enough for my 93 year old grandmother to use and yet you have the nerve to whine about their people not rolling out a red carpet whenever finding a setting becomes brain-surgery for you? I hope you're wealthy. I really do; because if you aren't, adulthood is going to be very unpleasant for you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wRAR_ · 2021-06-17 05:47 > IRC's userbase has been declining since 2003. True. IRC's userbase relevant to this thread though, the people that ask you to use it to get support, has not. [This was written in 2012 but is still true.](https://www.pingdom.com/blog/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ComputerTech312 · 2021-10-02 19:09 IRC can't die, it can become that nobody uses it, but it will never die. Why? because anyone with a PC can run a IRCd for a family, community, etc, Unlike Discord. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ComputerTech312 · 2021-10-02 19:10 *ComputerTech coughs *Libera!* ;D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-10-02 19:17 Oh you mean like Matrix? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ComputerTech312 · 2021-10-04 15:06 Idk, can Matrix be self hosted? I haven't used Matrix much. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SmallerBork · 2021-10-04 15:26 Yes it's self hostable and federated. It can also create bridges between IRC servers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ComputerTech312 · 2021-10-04 15:53 Cool.