Freenode staff hijack Gentoo chans reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sembiance · 2021-05-26 10:25 Ubuntu too: https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/05/26/announcing-ubuntus- move-to-libera-chat/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 12:59 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-26 13:20 You fail to convince me, because you're only making a claim without providing any evidence for it. "That which is claimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." / Christopher Hitchens ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-26 13:21 Is Freenode trying to die? Because this is how IRC networks die. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panickedthumb · 2021-05-26 14:38 Looks like every channel that was advertising a move ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SynMonger · 2021-05-26 14:42 How exactly is moving irc networks even in the same galaxy as government sanctioned genocide? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aFreshMelon · 2021-05-26 14:59 Ouch, not a great comparison to make champ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-26 15:47 I take IRC very seriously ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-26 15:49 It's not as if they woke up one day and for no reason decided to be monsters. It starts slow and insidious, and suppression of dissent is always the first step. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 15:50 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-26 15:53 Again, that's the claim. Where's your evidence? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 16:06 yeah what is the endgame here? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 16:07 i didnt know marjorie taylor greene used irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 16:07 what sort of suppression?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SynMonger · 2021-05-26 16:50 Gross. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tubbo · 2021-05-26 16:51 they openly admit to doing this. https://pastebin.com/kkT6EZxm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tubbo · 2021-05-26 16:52 no you're just a fucking idiot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 17:00 i knew twitter were nazis for banning me! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-26 17:01 Join Le Resistance friend, we shall overcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-26 17:19 What good would providing you evidence do? You've already made up your mind. If I brought you logs, you'd say they were doctored. If I brought you testimonials you'd say they were sockpuppets. If brought you a judgement from an international war crimes tribunal, you'd wonder aloud if perhaps the figures hadn't been exaggerated and drub up a bunch of mumbo jumbo about smokestack shadows and wooden doors. The fact is it is impossible to be on either network without witnessing daily operator abuse. You're either willfully blind or you're in cahoots. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 17:22 [removed] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 17:24 I, for one, welcome our new imperialist irc overlords. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 17:27 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rockintheairwaves · 2021-05-26 18:07 Do you want a dead IRC network? Because this is how you get dead IRC networks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-26 18:27 > What good would providing you evidence do? You've already made up your mind. You're mistaken. I'm not convinced you're right, and I'm not convinced you're wrong. I'm neutral. > If I brought you logs, you'd say they were doctored. If I brought you testimonials you'd say they were sockpuppets. If brought you a judgement from an international war crimes tribunal, you'd wonder aloud if perhaps the figures hadn't been exaggerated and drub up a bunch of mumbo jumbo about smokestack shadows and wooden doors. Jesus. You have an awfully strong opinion on how I, someone you've never heard of before, would act in a hypothetical situation. You know nothing about me. If you showed me logs, I would have no reason to doubt them, and I would believe you. Calm down. > The fact is it is impossible to be on either network without witnessing daily operator abuse. You're either willfully blind or you're in cahoots. Well, I've been on #emacs and #evennia for a considerable amount of time on Freenode, and I never saw any admin abuse there, so it is indeed possible to "be there" and not see anything. That is not to say that it doesn't happen - I'm just saying I haven't witnessed any of it in the channels where I usually reside. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-26 18:31 > First of all l0de runs a channel on efnet with 250+ users in it at any given moment, where's your large and populated IRC channel? I have no idea. What's your point? I get the impression that you think I'm saying libera.chat is somehow bigger than Freenode. I'm not. > Second, I was there on libera.chat and personally saw them hijacking channels from people on DAY ONE. Not even 10 hours of being in operation they were stealing channels, and silencing free speech. That is concerning. Which channels was this? > You want evidence? Go see it for yourself. If you don't see it, you're either being obtuse, or blind, or you're in on it. Well, you'd have to know where to look I suppose, or just stumble upon admin abuse randomly I suppose. I've been on #emacs for some time now, and I haven't seen any of it. So it is indeed possible to go there, as I did, and still not see any of it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 18:53 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 18:56 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-26 19:03 I think our experiences on these networks are too different for us to see eye to eye. I would urge you to keep your eyes out, and perhaps visit some other channels, you will no doubt witness these abusive staff in action. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- trekkie1701c · 2021-05-26 21:27 Speedrun destroying an IRC network, without people being able to say "Well it was a small network so maybe it would've collapsed on its own." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-26 21:30 dang I want in on that action what's the over/under ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NervousEnergy · 2021-05-26 22:04 Oh hey it's you. Yeah so you squatted a fairly big channel that was moving from Freenode to Liberia, so the IRCOps took it off you. Fuck off. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Umbire · 2021-05-26 22:11 >First of all l0de runs a channel on efnet with 250+ users in it at any given moment, where's your large and populated IRC channel? \>argumentum ad populum >How long is "some time?" and if you came out of your FOSS hidey-hole to the rest of the network you'd see it in a hurry. Bruh just say you don't have any evidence and go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ProgVal · 2021-05-26 22:16 BTW, "eskimo" in log is the same person who posted and commented there: https://web.archive.org/web/20190916023431/https://old.reddit.c om/r/irc/comments/d45jow/looking_to_sell_my_client_to_a_new_maintainer / ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Umbire · 2021-05-26 22:23 You think people would do that? Just go on the internet and lie? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 22:24 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-26 22:26 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panickedthumb · 2021-05-26 23:45 Oh is that what this is all about? Yeah of course they did. They said straight up that they would be doing that. I read these comments from earlier and hadn’t seen anything remotely like it from hanging out in the #libera and #libera-offtopic channels. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- chemtrailz · 2021-05-27 01:04 At this point, I can only believe "rasengan" either suffers from some sort of severe mental-illness, or a financial scam of some kind is taking place. I can't think of any other plausible explanations for this literal WTF. Fricking #curl was taken over and now redirects to an "empty" ##curl with a generic topic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- immibis · 2021-05-27 01:28 This is the 100% speedrun where you have to piss off every pissoffable user (some just worship you no matter what you do). For any% they just unplug the server. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-27 04:38 So literally all anyone has to do is screech "cansull culshure" and regardless of any merit or fact you'll just jump right on board that bandwagon, huh? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pandakekok9 · 2021-05-27 05:49 So you just admitted that you have no evidence. Ok buddy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pandakekok9 · 2021-05-27 05:50 Ah, they were the one who had the "God" nick complaining the exact same thing? Not surprised. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-27 12:07 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- l0de · 2021-05-27 13:35 This is no bandwagon, this is corrupt admins literally bulldozing me and my friends out of our indigenous chats. I don't need to read about their abuses, I and other minority chatters experience them every day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2021-05-27 15:58 Lol indigenous chats, nice one. Especially since you've already been called out in this thread for having tried to steal that channel name in the move from freenode to libera. You're fooling exactly nobody. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enfors · 2021-05-27 21:25 Haha, yeah, that would explain their claims of suppression without being able to provide any convincing evidence. They felt entitled to squat channels, and when it didn't work, they go "help help I'm being oppressed". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- panickedthumb · 2021-05-28 03:17 There’s a Monty Python skit to fit here ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pandakekok9 · 2021-05-28 04:45 Funny, I was trolling on freenode ironically telling everyone that Liberia [intentional sic] is a country established by U.S. imperialism. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gertrudedude69 · 2021-05-28 11:28 african-american imperialism! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Alpha012_GD · 2021-05-29 17:10 I think the Freenode staff is trying to kill freenode in order to get everyone to move to libera.chat because they probably know that Andrew Lee is the one controlling Freenode now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Umbire · 2021-05-29 23:37 >autojoin ~40 channels for a week >worst I saw was probably an excessive quiet Truly, a hive of scum and villainy the likes of which no despot could hope to match. /s ---------------------------------------------------------------------- spork119 · 2021-06-03 08:35 Why won't libera respond to one of their opers being confirmed to be at the Jan. 6th insurrection? Facism is not FOSS.