ChatServ! New General Topic IRC Network! irc.chatserv.org:6667 reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wmcscrooge · 2014-09-27 23:08 Is there any benefit or distinguishing feature about this server? And what channels are there to visit? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rmarmorstein · 2014-09-28 04:33 Right now, we are starting up. We plan to try and cater to as many different 'groups' and topics as possible. We're going to be pretty relaxed on rules and use, and want to just have a cool network. Right now we have #welcome and #home setup for just general chat. Not many in there right now though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KindOne · 2014-09-28 19:18 What makes this network any different than the 600+ that already exist? http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rmarmorstein · 2014-09-28 23:37 > Right now, we are starting up. We plan to try and cater to as many different 'groups' and topics as possible. We're going to be pretty relaxed on rules and use, and want to just have a cool network. Right now we have #welcome and #home setup for just general chat. Not many in there right now though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wmcscrooge · 2014-09-29 06:22 the only problem that I and /u/KindOne was trying to point out is that your goal is the same as pretty much every other network out there. The only thing that really makes a server stand out is a unique defining feature (and so far you don't have one). For example, freenode caters ONLY to open-source projects and snoonet just to reddit. You could do the same and pick a theme but honestly you're limiting your audience (unless you can afford to by picking a really large market such as reddit or programming, maybe video games?). An easier yet harder way is to create an irc server with unique features. Some things I've been wanting for a long time are: 1. better nick-naming schemes on reconnect 1. easier op support 1. better integration with windows software to allow ease on entrace (an xmpp-irc gateway of sorts as hard as that would be) 1. voice/text mix (cause that'd just be cool) 1. distributed irc servers (not really your style) most of these ideas are impractical but I think it's a good example of the kind of things that'd make an irc server stand out amongst all the other new started ones that often show up in this subreddit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rmarmorstein · 2014-10-18 16:24 > better nick-naming schemes on reconnect > easier op support Could you please explain what you mean by these? I've got Myself and a few others who are willing to look into implementing these. > Voice/text mix I'll look into this, however, I'm not sure if it's possible due to the software limitations of IRC. Distributed servers are planned, we just currently do not have the userbase to warrant this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wmcscrooge · 2014-10-18 20:52 well I knew I huge problem I had with hexchat and irc servers was that if I started with projectdelphai then got disconnected, I'd come back as projectdelphai_ which isn't bad. but if I got disconnected AGAIN, I'd go to projectdelphai__ instead of back to projectdelphai. and for people with really bad connections (me on wifi in certain places), it can get really bad where lots of people in channels will have seriously messed up names and the channel is spammed with disconnects. Not sure there's a better solution but i'd like it better. Better op support: basically people are always recommending that you don't op yourself until you need it and then op yourself when you do. but the command can be long and the syntax weird. and it doesn't always work (cause you're not registered or something). or even worse, if I got disconnect and became projectdelphai_ but my projectdelphai user name is still logged in. I can't op myself and I can't switch to projectdelphai to op myself cause it's taken. In the end, both of these cases boils down to that it's not very user-friendly (documentation isn't great either). I've gotten used to it, but it was horribly confusing my first time around. the voice/text mix suggestion was really a quick solution to a bigger problem that isn't really a good solution. Really the problem is (as I've heard it described) that "half the channels are ghost towns and the rest are so full that you can't keep track of conversations". You really can't do anything about ghost towns but for the channels that are hugely busy, I feel like I spend more time trying to keep up with conversations and not fall behind that it's useless. A better resource would be something that keeps track of conversations (kind of like a hack that uses nicks and mentions and highlights to join messages together) and displays them in an easy manner so users can follow only certain conversations. to make it easy, channels/servers could just assign each tentative conversation with a unique tag/id and then clients could parse it. for channels where the identifying software doesn't work, clients could just show all conversations normally, but where it works, it could fold conversations and expand other or show them in separate trees. stuff like that. voice/text helps you keep track by filtering based on voices but in huge channels this wouldn't work. easier to just use skype (and irc is better for lower connections anyway (even though it has problems too)).