ANNOUNCEMENT: Snoonet Operational Status reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- airmandan · 2012-11-28 15:22 Good day to all, As a result of administrative complications, Snoonet IRC has transitioned to irc.snoonet.**org** and is no longer operating on the .com domain name. The network remains intact and all IRC Services are operational; you have not lost any of your channels or registered nicknames. However, if your channel was empty during the service interruption, you may have lost your invex and ban lists, so it would be a good idea to double-check those and re-create them as needed. The Snoonet staff regrets the inconvenience this may have caused our users and has implemented several procedural and policy changes to prevent any recurrence of this kind of service interruption. We appreciate your patience and are always here to help you, whether here on reddit or in the #help channel on irc.snoonet.org. Thank you for your continued support and we hope you'll continue to enjoy using Snoonet! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2012-11-28 19:24 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- frumious · 2012-11-28 23:30 Thanks for your mature response to this difficulty and for the dedication of all those that continue to bring us snoonet. I look forward to seeing how it continues to evolve. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-11-29 01:36 Indeed, this post was very mature. Some of the other responses that I've seen from staff around this event, not so much. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pteraspidomorphi · 2012-11-29 01:55 What happened? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-11-29 02:36 Just a few things. Threatening to sue the admin in question, for starters. Accusing him of attempting to destroy the network, and giving out his IRC nick on another network to all interested. There's also logs of some of the mods acting quite rudely towards some of the subreddit channel mods who were moving away from Snoonet because of the problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pteraspidomorphi · 2012-11-29 03:25 You misunderstand. I don't know what *the problems* were in first place! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nupogodi · 2012-11-29 03:53 Still liked freenode more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2012-11-29 05:29 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2012-11-29 06:08 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-11-29 07:00 Oh. Basically, one of the Snoonet staff members decided to quit with no warning. He disconnected his server, and "turned off" the snoonet.com domain (which he owned). So everything was down while the other admins fixed the servers, changed to snoonet.org, and redid configs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TundraWolf_ · 2012-11-29 18:06 No dice getting the webchat to work, even pointing it to the .org address. might be a 'me' issue and not a 'you' issue though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TundraWolf_ · 2012-11-29 18:35 snoonet.com: "READ ALL 2000 LINES OF THIS CHAT. THEY ARE MEANIE HEADS" ugh... it's a combination of /r/subredditdrama and /r/cringe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NYKevin · 2012-11-30 15:39 No dice for me either, using Chatzilla: >[INFO] Attempting to connect to “irc.snoonet.org”. Use /cancel to abort. [INFO] Connecting to irc://irc.snoonet.org/ (irc://irc.snoonet.org/)… [Cancel] [ERROR] Connection to irc://irc.snoonet.org/ (irc://irc.snoonet.org/) refused. [Help] Reconnecting in 15 seconds. [Cancel] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TundraWolf_ · 2012-11-30 15:40 I got it working last night from home. I haven't tried it yet today. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NYKevin · 2012-11-30 15:49 Just tried the webchat, it *appears* to work... But Chatzilla's still a no-go. EDIT: The folks at #help got me to try `wa.snoonet.org` instead, and that works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- chankster · 2012-12-01 03:12 At least freenode works! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- timotab · 2012-12-01 03:16 And they [freenode] don't send stupid wallops all the time [like snoonet does]. Instead, they reserve the feature for important site- wide announcements. Edit: clarity. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-02 16:23 Wallops is an *optional* message channel available to most IRC daemons. You don't have to subscribe to wallops messages, as only users with the "+x" usermode (which Snoonet has off by default) see them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-02 16:24 Hi, there was various issues during the DNS transfer which may have resulted in some downtime. Both irc.snoonet.org and the webchat should be fully functional now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- timotab · 2012-12-03 02:32 Curious. I saw them, having not explicitly set that. Unset it, and a day or so later, saw them again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2012-12-03 09:07 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-03 13:46 The mode was on by default for a while, partially because of the recent hurried changes, and partially because it is a good way to communicate important network updates to users. It's off by default now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- timotab · 2012-12-03 15:57 So, uh, clearly you still don't get it. > it is a good way to communicate important network updates to users. so, sure. Turn it off, and for those who choose to turn them on, send silly messages using it. So, how does that communicate important network updates to users? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- timotab · 2012-12-03 16:04 > We pretty much kept it to network related stuff, No, no you didn't. I have not once see a network related wallop on snoonet. > we figure the people that want to read it will mode +w If you're keeping it to network related stuff, it's important that everyone sees it is it not? > Also, freenode is notorious for their (albeit humorous wallops) No, no they aren't. I haven't once seen a wallop on freenode that wasn't related to issues with the \*serv accounts, *i.e.* network related stuff. **Either** you use them for important network related stuff in which case they should be on by default (because 90+% of users don't change their defaults) **or** you use them for frivolity, in which case, sure, have them off by default (again, because 90+% of users won't change the defaults and don't care about anything outside of the channels they join). But you can't have it both ways. Edit to add: **Hint**: I want to know about network stuff. If I wanted the frivolity, I'd join #frivolous. The right answer is have it on by default, and use it only for important messages that every user should see. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-03 17:34 In most IRC environments, network notices are used for important messages that all users should be aware of, and WALLOPS is an optional channel where users can receive information on network operations (that is not essential, but some may be interested in). For example, a restart of the IRC services will be sent as a notice, as it will affect all users. Whereas the linking of an additional IRC leaf will be sent as a WALLOPS, as it will not affect users, but may be of interest. This is the model that Snoonet intends to adopt, going forward. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-03 17:37 Refer to my reply to your other comment below. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2012-12-05 06:35 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Epsopefo · 2012-12-08 20:10 I have the agree with what others have sad. Wallops was mainly used for the ops to publicly joke between themselves and send stupid messages. That, and recent events don't really leave a good impression. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NeedAGoodUsername · 2012-12-13 13:51 It was, but they are still rare :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- funkybside · 2012-12-18 18:12 I don't see anything wrong with someone deciding to do what they want with their own stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neoinr · 2012-12-19 00:47 Me neither, it was the way he went about it that caused issues for everyone, as it led to downtime. He was perfectly within his rights to take his servers elsewhere, but a bit of warning would have prevented the chaos.