Is there an active reddit channel that doesn't mute you like for saying a movie title then tell you there's a zero tolerance policy and next time is a ban, all the while ignoring others using the same words out of context? reddit / irc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 04:11 With logs! Killer Klowns from Outer Space hawkeye>house hyrdogenous: faxing berlin sif, house is awesome Suaviloquent, doesn't the 70's have this warm homey effect to it? like its the true american culture house>* faxing berlin is good bendh18, will you play In the Navy for me the night before I ship out? plz plz plz i prefer strobe gayniggers from outer space > killer klowns Sounder: Yes I will it builds me up instance, ya, it's pretty nice :> That I will do bendh18: that bendy bass is soooo awesome like sounder i know ankhsgot99 hydrogenous builds me up Suaviloquent, im sure they will. they just don't want to spoil it in the trailers 'hes a serial killer thant eat his victims" .... "and, we saved him" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274518/ I suppose so <+redditalien> Title: Gayniggers from Outer Space (1992) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) ban redditalien this is annoying he said the n word hmm 5.9/10 not bad I'll watch it nigger? there were multiple uses of the n-word out of context (you know without being a movie title) and nobody else was muted k muted for a movie title? orly naw dude rules clearly state no gaybashing and racism what? i didn't break any rules unban me ignoring me? please understand we have a zero tolerance policy against those words, there's no downvoting system here and we absolutely give no leeway to that, because they're easily taken advantage of. I am unmuting you for now, but remember the next time it's a ban. ... it's a movie title doesn't matter it actually does Nice job. I really don't care that you removed the mute, you seem to just be able to pick and choose shit like this randomly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BigFuzzyArchon · 2011-03-22 05:26 this is outrageous and shouldn't be going on in the reddit irc. somebody needs to stop this mod. edit: I just have a convo with ninjapig myself and here's what he had to say. [01:33:03] <ninjapig2> what do you want [01:33:51] <BigFuzzyArchon6> i heard you were misbehaving [01:33:57] <BigFuzzyArchon6> and i came to correct that [01:34:01] <ninjapig2> BigFuzzyArchon [01:34:03] <ninjapig2> fuck off [01:34:27] <BigFuzzyArchon6> something about banning free speech [01:35:34] <BigFuzzyArchon6> i think that it was unjustified [01:35:55] <ninjapig2> nope, not in the case of the catalase [01:36:15] <ninjapig2> in either case [01:36:37] <ninjapig2> we have strict rules that say no gaybashing or racism [01:36:45] <BigFuzzyArchon6> i read the chatlog [01:36:48] <ninjapig2> you can respect them and enjoy your time [01:36:51] <BigFuzzyArchon6> on the reddit irc subreddit [01:36:58] <BigFuzzyArchon6> and decided that there was none of that going on [01:37:24] <ninjapig2> BigFuzzyArchon: or you can take it to the other channel [01:37:32] <ninjapig2> end of story [01:37:49] <BigFuzzyArchon6> in the end freedom always wins [01:37:50] <ninjapig2> or you can present what i have to say to the person who owns the channel [01:37:57] <ninjapig2> yes [01:38:04] <ninjapig2> gl [01:38:09] <ninjapig2> i'm ignoring you now ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 05:52 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 05:56 Excellent log maybe you should space it out. edit: Do you not irc much or what? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aperson · 2011-03-22 06:14 Yes, but I dare not say the name of it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 06:21 Breathe, ninjapig. When you feel like raging harder just take a deep breath ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gudahtt · 2011-03-22 06:37 As ridiculous as it is to say that posting a movie title is "gay bashing", according to those logs you're the one acting like a prick. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 06:37 Still waiting for good excuse for this uncalled for censorship ninjapig. You only end up making yourself look worse ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 06:46 Sigh. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 07:03 BFA is not my account. He trolled on his own ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gudahtt · 2011-03-22 07:45 What the hell is this? This is really not the appropriate place to whine about IRC ops. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aperson · 2011-03-22 08:35 Sure it is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 09:00 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 10:44 I left after you unmuted me and went back to another network I idle on. I haven't joined freenode again since. He joined after i had linked this thread. I had nothing to do with that you still haven't explained how anything i said came close to being mute/ban worthy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- badluckartist · 2011-03-22 11:28 Not so much outrageous as it is one more annoying thing standing between IRC and fun. "he said the n word" as a response sounds like children tattling on each other to the grownups and "we have a zero tolerance policy" sounds like the utter bullshit an adult would say to a child. If human mods can't be expected to tell the difference between context (there's even an IMDB up there) and no context, then why is there a human mod doing this at all? If Reddit was so bent on censoring words like 'nigger' and 'faggot', I'm sure there'd be an automated program for doing such a thing, right? Some kind of... filter? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlucardZero · 2011-03-22 13:30 \-frontpage ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tedivm · 2011-03-22 16:43 So you muted instead of banned- you still punished someone for saying a movie title. That is not gaybashing or racism. The fact that you are getting backlash over it is because you were in the wrong- just apologize, revise the policy and end the stupid drama already. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- poop_in_yo_soup · 2011-03-22 17:59 [#subreddit](http://) There I gone and done said it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reddil · 2011-03-22 17:59 #subreddit. I will say no more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alexbarrett · 2011-03-22 18:01 Oh… hey ninjapig! _real identity_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- manbrasucks · 2011-03-22 18:03 There is an active reddit channel just for you and people like you! POUNDcryaboutit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reddil · 2011-03-22 18:03 Downvoted. ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A SECRET CHAN!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reddil · 2011-03-22 18:04 Its so secret we got the ops in #reddit to ban anyone even talking about it. No advertising needed. We come to you not you come to us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-22 18:56 Yes, there is, it's called #reddit-uncut. Why don't people read channel topics? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- frumious · 2011-03-23 00:02 How about a little bit more. Like how to get an invitation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DesCo88 · 2011-03-23 05:11 need to suck that dick blood. ya herr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-23 05:12 Hi Dresona. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- aperson · 2011-03-23 05:13 We come to you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 05:35 Join #reddit-uncut and read what pops up when you join Same "rules" as #reddit, although i guess it depends on how nazi mods are about enforcing it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 08:11 Wrong. The only rules that apply are no spam. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news for your little pet cause here, but it's been played out by others literally years before you decided to post this topic. Every angle has been hashed out, rehashed, and then brought up again for sport, and as you can see the issue has, each time, been determined to not be legitimate. But every time it comes up, we'll gladly show once again why it's a nonissue, because I understand that sometimes new people enter into a community and don't understand all of the previous issues. So please feel free to contact me or any one of the mods at any time if you've got any further questions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 09:21 This isn't about #reddit-uncut, this is about #reddit I may be incorrect about your reddit-uncut rules, however last time i joined that channel it was not very active at all I have nothing against #reddit-uncut as long as ops aren't being complete tards like they are in #reddit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 15:50 How come every *single* time this topic comes up, it's always brought up by someone who likes to insult people and be generally off-putting in their demeanor? If just *once* I could talk to someone about this issue in a mature way, things might change, but I've *yet* to see even a modicum of maturity from any one of the people who share your views. Honestly though, you don't give a shit about free speech, do you? You're probably one of the same handful of kids that make #reddit a little less fun than it could be by constantly crying out for op attention with this pointless nonissue. I guess it's to be expected from people who complain when they can't say racial slurs or homophobic drivel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 16:43 First off, I never insulted anyone aside from the rage comment. Bigfuzzyarchon is not me so getting all hormonal about it isn't going to do anything. ALL I care about here is free speech and I take great offense at your comment. No, I don't just want to go around gay bashing and dropping n-bombs. I linked a movie title and I never, NEVER used the word in a hateful way. Where in my post history anywhere does it suggest that I am some sort of troll who likes to drop the n-word at the drop of a hat? Apparently you're ignoring the original post that includes a full log. It's trolls like you that probably ruined #reddit for the rest of us. I understand that they don't want people to start using the n bomb and gaybashing in a hateful way, but this is not the case here. Please re-read my original post ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 16:54 > First off, I never insulted anyone aside from the rage comment. You called me and the other ops a "complete 'tard". How can you expect me to take you seriously when you use language like that? > Bigfuzzyarchon is not me so getting all hormonal about it isn't going to do anything. I never said it was but it's interesting that your denial is so specific. Also, this is exactly the kind of language that completely destroys any point of legitimacy you might have, but you just can't help yourself, can you? > I linked a movie title and I never, NEVER used the word in a hateful way. I believe you, but this isn't about being hateful, it's about being antagonistic. You linked that movie title to stir controversy and to get op attention, and for *no* other reason. > I understand that they don't want people to start using the n bomb and gaybashing in a hateful way, but this is not the case here. Yes it is. I'm just telling you right now, yes it is. I don't care about your supposed legitimate uses, because there are none that you could give me that I'd believe, sorry. > Apparently you're ignoring the original post that includes a full log. No, I see you interject a normal conversation with offensive language with the intent of causing eDrama. That's what you don't get about this; you bitch and you moan about context context context, and yet every single time context goes against you (as it does here, there was *zero* reason to say what you said as it had nothing to do with the topic at hand), you whine about unfair enforcement when in reality, it's completely fair and absolutely spelled out. There are two words in the English language you cannot say in #reddit otherwise you'll be muted. That's absolutely fair. Maybe it's not just, and we can argue that, but it is the very definition of fair. Edit: I will continue this conversation for as long as you've got questions, but I don't think my point of view will change as long as you continue with your trollish attitude. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 17:16 I'm going to go ahead and point out that this isn't the first time that overbearing mods have censored decent conversation http://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/fnjsy/pretty_cool_hate_speech_fil ter_you_guys_have_in/ People like you who want to impede free speech make me sick. Someone mentioned a bad 80's horror movie (which happens to be my thing) and I responded with a bad movie from 1992 that happens to have the n-word in the title. There was no gay bashing. I never used to the n-word as an insult. The mute was completely unjustified. I never planned on making racist comments or bashing gays. I stand by my comment about the ops. This is just terrible and they should be ashamed. You are like those people who want to censor books because they use period language, you have no legitimacy. I happen to love 80's movies, especially horror. It was relevant to the conversation and I didn't bring it up "just to stir up e-drama" You just don't seem to get it. I bet you'd love it if the reddit website was censored too? Had I not been muted, the conversation about 80's movies would have continued. edit: why i'm even arguing with such a troll i haven't the foggiest edit: I don't think your point of view would change anyway ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 17:26 > People like you who want to impede free speech make me sick. I'm not stopping you from saying anything, I'm just stopping you from saying it in #reddit. If you want to talk about bad 80s movies that have offensive titles, take it to #reddit-uncut. > I happen to love 80's movies, especially horror. It was relevant to the conversation and I didn't bring it up "just to stir up e-drama" Yes, you did. > I stand by my comment about the ops. You think they're literally retarded? Yes, that's a mature stance to take, and deserves all kinds of legitimate consideration. Right. > There was no gay bashing. I never used to the n-word as an insult. The mute was completely unjustified. I never planned on making racist comments or bashing gays. You keep asserting this, even though no one is saying you were gay bashing or saying racist things. I certainly don't think you were doing either of those things. What I think you *were* doing was posting a movie title you knew would elicit a reaction from the ops. Congratulations, you were right. > You just don't seem to get it. I bet you'd love it if the reddit website was censored too? It *is* censored through the employment of the comment voting system. Racist/homophobic comments are hidden from view, and legitimate uses of those (and other) offensive words are not. Unfortunately IRC doesn't have such a system, so we have to do the best we can to keep the channel friendly. I've said each of these things before, and I will say them all again. You have yet to bring a new point of view to this years-old "argument". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 17:37 Ok. Since you don't get it: >I'm not stopping you from saying anything, I'm just stopping you from saying it in #reddit. If you want to talk about bad 80s movies that have offensive titles, take it to #reddit-uncut. no, I will not take my conversation about 80's movies to #reddit-uncut because you don't like it. And actually you are advocating stopping the conversation >Yes, you did. no, I did not. You apparently can't comprehend >You think they're literally retarded? Yes, that's a mature stance to take, and deserves all kinds of legitimate consideration. Right. I consider the pro-censorship crowd mentally challenged, yes >You keep asserting this, even though no one is saying you were gay bashing or saying racist things. I certainly don't think you were doing either of those things. What I think you were doing was posting a movie title you knew would ilicit a reaction from the ops. Congratulations, you were right. oh...k It's only been your argument for the past couple of posts >It is censored through the employment of the comment voting system. Racist/homophobic comments are hidden from view. Unfortunately IRC doesn't have such a system, so we have to do the best we can to keep the channel friendly. But people who say the n-word aren't prevented from posting on reddit This conversation is going nowhere, fast. This is my last response to your posts. You are pro-censorship and I find it vile. Good day ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alexbarrett · 2011-03-23 18:06 Sigh. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-23 18:09 > no, I will not take my conversation about 80's movies to #reddit- uncut because you don't like it. And actually you are advocating stopping the conversation And that's my point. You care more about the instigation than you care about the conversation. If you actually wanted to have this conversation about 80s movies, you'd be willing to move it somewhere else, but you don't, so you won't. > no, I did not. You apparently can't comprehend You did, sorry. > I consider the pro-censorship crowd mentally challenged, yes I know you do, but it's not a mature stance to take, and doesn't deserve any legitimate consideration. I do hope my sarcasm was apparent. > oh...k It's only been your argument for the past couple of posts False. > But people who say the n-word aren't prevented from posting on reddit That's because Reddit has its own method of censorship. If it were possible to implement in IRC in an elegant way, we'd have each line voted on, but you and I both know that'd not possible, so this is the next best thing. > This conversation is going nowhere, fast. This is my last response to your posts. You are pro-censorship and I find it vile. Good day Yes, I am pro-censorship. I'm sorry you find that vile. If you have any other questions feel free to PM me on IRC or send me a message on Reddit. Have a nice day. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-23 23:48 Hi angie :D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alexbarrett · 2011-03-24 00:19 This isn't my real identity really. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-24 01:49 WHY DONT YOU USE YOUR REAL IDENTITIES WHEN OTHER PEOPLE POST STUFF ABARRETT? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-24 01:50 ^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-24 01:54 diminoten, you are a total fucking retard. Stop being such a self righteous pussy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-03-24 01:56 I think YOU are literally retarded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-24 02:13 lolumad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-24 02:13 im under ur skin :( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tilduke · 2011-03-29 03:09 This. If you aren't going to use discretion just replace the ops with bots. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-03-30 20:43 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lighthazard · 2011-04-09 00:50 Quiet you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lighthazard · 2011-04-09 00:51 yes/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-04-09 01:05 nou ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lighthazard · 2011-04-09 01:11 noure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pretendperson · 2011-04-09 05:53 .kanchoparty ---------------------------------------------------------------------- hydrogenous · 2011-04-09 10:39 Oh lawd. Why do I smoke so much and drink so much awwwwww ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lighthazard · 2011-04-09 14:33 .8=D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rad_thundercat · 2011-04-12 03:07 smd fgt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rad_thundercat · 2011-04-12 03:48 #reddit-uncut? How old are we? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2011-04-12 03:51 Hey, it's what the people asked for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sobedai · 2011-05-16 19:48 subreddit is a festering cesspool of immaturity and idiocy.