#reddit discussion over chat rules and purpose
reddit / irc

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GradysGhost · 2010-12-01 16:52

This morning there was a long, drawn-out debate on #reddit about the
purpose of #reddit and the rules, how best to advertise those rules,
what constitutes the breaking of those rules, and how selective the
enforcement of those rules is.  I've cleaned up the logs a bit, but
only to remove the output of joins/disconnects and some redditalien
responses.  I've also removed pieces of the logs that were not related
to the conversation listed in this post.

[Full Log On Pastebin](http://pastebin.com/CNgNPc8e)

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vicarious- · 2010-12-01 16:56

I think it should be all about how religion is poising the brains of
our children & dam the ops for destroying my freedoms of speech by
banning me

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[deleted] · 2010-12-01 17:59

[deleted]

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[deleted] · 2010-12-01 18:32

Do you realize that it's against freenode policy to log conversations
and post them on the internet?

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aperson · 2010-12-01 18:33

People get far too butthurt over things.  I'm all for no moderation
sans spam moderation.

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lighthazard · 2010-12-01 18:40

lol...

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aperson · 2010-12-01 18:40

I somehow doubt that as quite a few larger and more well known
channels do this.

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GradysGhost · 2010-12-01 18:50

Looks like bash.org is fucked.

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[deleted] · 2010-12-01 19:22

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml

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aperson · 2010-12-01 19:26

Well someone tell [these guys](http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/) to stop
posting their logs online.

Also, it doesn't say anywhere there that you can't, you just have to
ask 'permission' from the ones in the logs first.  That, or state that
you're logging the channel publicly.

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[deleted] · 2010-12-01 19:29

>-ChanServ- [#ubuntu] Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel
topic. **This channel is logged.** Use of this channel implies
acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService

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venuism · 2010-12-01 19:37

ops are always gonna over think shit, some dude said: "absolute power,
corrupts absolutely" which I interpret as: ops == scum.

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venuism · 2010-12-01 19:39

Who cares?

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PirateMud · 2010-12-01 20:06

Another channel on another network I go on did "Absolutely no
moderation" and "Everyone can kick".

It... sort of worked. Eventually people got childish about bots,
because they could. Epicly long kickwars of people kicking the other
person's bot, etc. Really fucking stupid. I feel there should be some
sort of bot-regulation to prevent this and spam... apart from that,
anything should go.

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DeusIgnis · 2010-12-01 21:03

I usually look over the obvious, but that says nothing about it being
against their policy. It basically says "be careful about it"

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[deleted] · 2010-12-02 12:25

All the reddit ops can/will do is enforce FreeNode policy, that's it.
No offensive words (fuck isn't an offensive word, more like racial
slurs), no spam, no links to phishing sites, that sort of thing.  You
won't see the ops kicking people for discussion, even if Jesst says
that's not what #reddit is for.

If you're all for free speech, why are you trying to censor the ops
from speaking how they feel?  The real question, as I see it, is why
you think your rights to free speech should impede the op's right to
theirs?

Also, #subreddit.  Your *exact* problem has been had before, and
#subreddit was the result.  Go in there and see what company you keep,
you'll find it's even more trollish and corrupt than anything that
goes on in #reddit.

On another note, why the fuck do people think they have free speech in
private places?  It's so gorram annoying...

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[deleted] · 2010-12-02 12:28

You don't have a right to free speech in a private place, quit your
bitching.

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[deleted] · 2010-12-02 12:28

It's just mildly funny how consistently nonconformist the poster
insists on being.

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[deleted] · 2010-12-02 12:29

Except you don't know who submits the shit on bash.org.  Here, it's
quite obvious who to punish.

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Moldavite · 2010-12-02 17:48

fuck #reddit the fascists and godlewss commies took it over years ago
and started 'enforcing' 'rules' that were never important to enforce
before. i was told that it was freenodes fault the #reddit optards had
to have rules because people were not allowed to say nigger on
freenode.  somehow the most ignorant fuckers managed to get op in
#reddit and lols ensued.

tl;dr fuck #reddit 7 burn it