World built in 36 hours on a Pentium 4! reddit / freebsd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shooter556001 · 2023-05-29 08:16 Not that long, I tried on 486 in older versions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- M_a_l_t_e_s_e_r · 2023-05-29 08:23 I reckon with a bit of liquid nitrogen and some overclocking to 5ghz we can get 'er done in under a day ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KeijoTheSnowLeopard · 2023-05-29 09:32 How many packages in set? I guess no X11 and/or GUI, that’d probably take a lot longer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DiamondHandsDarrell · 2023-05-29 09:38 That sounds about right! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PkHolm · 2023-05-29 09:40 I bet it is not on spinning rust drives. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gumnos · 2023-05-29 11:36 reminds me of doing a buildword+kernel on an older RPi 2b and it took 2–3 days. Never tried that one again… ---------------------------------------------------------------------- thank_burdell · 2023-05-29 12:26 Sdcard or usb2? Either way, your disk io was probably your bottleneck. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gumnos · 2023-05-29 14:32 yeah, SD card and in 2016, so it was likely a class-10 at best, and might have been a 6 or 8 depending on what I grabbed out of the drawer. But I agree you pinpointed the bottleneck. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _w62_ · 2023-05-29 14:54 14-CURRENT? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ColtC7 · 2023-05-29 15:13 Hell, make Pentium 5s real, those would probably do it in 18 hours! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- s0m3guy_YT · 2023-05-29 15:48 Yes, it is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2023-05-29 15:48 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HexagonWin · 2023-05-29 15:53 Nice, can you share the detailed specifications of your P4 box? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- distark · 2023-05-29 16:02 Tempted to try this in threadripper ---------------------------------------------------------------------- s0m3guy_YT · 2023-05-29 16:22 It's running on Pentium 4 clocked at 3.75GHz OC, with 2x2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM, on an ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 motherboard. It's also running on a pretty slow hard drive so I'm planning to transfer everything to an SSD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HexagonWin · 2023-05-29 16:23 Oh, it was a pretty modern P4! Still cool ---------------------------------------------------------------------- s0m3guy_YT · 2023-05-29 16:27 I don't remember how much package the source tree came with. But if I'm compiling X11, that would take an extra 18 hours just for an xorg- minimal install. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- KeijoTheSnowLeopard · 2023-05-29 16:30 That’s… a longer while :D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- monotux · 2023-05-29 17:08 Try that on a Pentium Pro with 48 MB of RAM! Running FreeBSD-stable on that level of hardware was mildly infuriating. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bplipschitz · 2023-05-29 18:57 P4 shouldn't have taken *that* long. Used to do it for real , BITD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- musiquededemain · 2023-05-29 20:47 Glad to see a P4 still out in the wild! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- musiquededemain · 2023-05-29 20:50 Pentium Pro, wow a blast from the past. Have not heard that chip in a loooong time! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antiduh · 2023-05-30 00:27 It's wild to think it was running at 3.75 back then, and even wilder to think we get leagues better performance with only another GHz added. Cores and IPC really are king. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- s0m3guy_YT · 2023-05-30 04:11 It's stock speed is 3.00GHz by the way. My setup is overclocked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- M_a_l_t_e_s_e_r · 2023-05-30 14:36 don't you remember? They did make pentium 5s real, it's called Intel Itanium! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ColtC7 · 2023-05-30 14:57 The Itanic used an incompatible architecture. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dannomac · 2023-05-30 16:08 I always find it fascinating that my daily driver FreeBSD machine has always fully built world & kernel in about an hour. It shows just how much faster hardware is getting and also how slow software is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- goyox86 · 2023-05-30 20:05 I remember building world in 3970x threadripper and as far as I remember it was sub-10 mins. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- M_a_l_t_e_s_e_r · 2023-05-30 20:20 The pentium 5 did too if I remember correctly (though idk x86 support might have still been a part of it), they just kept having so many issues with it that they were forced to abandon it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- brucezhang63 · 2023-05-31 12:45 Great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- paprok · 2023-06-10 07:52 one of my lab-machines is a FujitsuSiemens P4 (CedarMill) on 965 chipset. very nice machine - real serial port, case has sideways opening "door" inside on which 2x3.5" disks can be installed (in toolless plastic-metal slides), the PSU is controlled by the mobo and does all of the airflow in the machine - no fan on CPU (correction - there is another in the front:). nice Phoenix BIOS, with some unusual features - all in all great system to play with. the only thing it lacks is an onboard IDE controller - it's SATA only. *[looks like this](https://i.ibb.co/qBBT1B6/ESP-P-BTX- Int2-500x500.png) - very easy to install/replace disks* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- grahamperrin · 2023-06-11 14:12 Recently I'm experimenting with what might be stupid numbers of make jobs on a circa 2013 notebook with a hard disk drive. % tail -n 6 /var/log/buildkernel.log 4648.11 real 7190.36 user 1704.80 sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for GENERIC-NODEBUG completed on Sun Jun 11 08:09:35 BST 2023 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel(s) GENERIC GENERIC-NODEBUG built in 6224 seconds, ncpu: 4, make -j40 -------------------------------------------------------------- % uname -KU 1400090 1400090 % That's around seventy-seven minutes for the two kernels, including two builds of two kernel modules from ports: % grep -v \# /etc/src.conf | sort … KERNCONF=GENERIC GENERIC-NODEBUG PORTS_MODULES= emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod graphics/drm-510-kmod WITH_CCACHE_BUILD= WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_ALL= WITHOUT_TESTS= WITHOUT_VI= % Not too shabby, given the age and the HDD bottleneck. Surprisingly, the desktop environment (Plasma) remains usable – fairly responsive – whilst I build world and kernel.