New package: Lookup Wiktionary entries in Emacs
reddit / emacs

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ilemming · 2022-12-25 03:31

https://github.com/agzam/wiktionary-bro.el

[demo](https://i.imgur.com/K1tLmNL.mp4)

It doesn't do much yet, just a bit more convenient way to browse
Wiktionary entries. It lets you quickly send a request and see an
entry without TOC and edit buttons.

I'd like to add more features later.

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CorysInTheHouse69 · 2022-12-25 07:38

I made some eww wrapper function for this, but it was pretty iffy.
Happy to see this made

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deaddyfreddy · 2022-12-25 11:04

A kind of related project https://github.com/chenyanming/shrface

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github-alphapapa · 2022-12-25 17:15

This looks pretty cool.  I wonder if the idea (rendering parts of Web
pages using `shr`, ala `eww` but selectively) could be generalized to
make it easier to write wrappers to view useful parts of Web pages in
Emacs.

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ilemming · 2022-12-25 21:13

Well, honestly, [right now] it's probably not much different from what
you had. But as I said, I'm hoping to improve this and make it much
nicer.

I've been using a few packages for my polylingual needs, but somehow I
rarely made use of Wiktionary. Recently decided to learn Spanish and
now I'm constantly getting fascinated by how different words shaped
seemingly dissimilar languages.  Wiktionary is a great resource to
explore etymologies.

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ilemming · 2022-12-25 21:17

Nice. Thank you. I do remember seeing it once, but didn't have an
immediate need for it, and I quickly forgot about it.

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ilemming · 2022-12-25 21:19

I kinda get what you mean, but I'm feeling dumb and can't expand it in
my head. Could you provide an example use case?

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CorysInTheHouse69 · 2022-12-25 21:45

I’m studying Russian at my university right now. A few weeks ago I had
a massive project to compose a glossary for a text. In a glossary all
the words must in either infinitive (verb) or nominative
(noun/adjective) form. Wiktionary is a great resource for looking up a
word to find the best definition in English and for finding the
nominative case. Porting wiktionary to emacs helped me to a task that
may have taken a month into two days

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ilemming · 2022-12-25 22:31

That sounds wonderful. If you can share some ideas on how to make this
little thing better and more practical, please do. I'd appreciate any
feedback.

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CorysInTheHouse69 · 2022-12-25 22:38

I’ll look over it later and see if it needs anything that I needed

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github-alphapapa · 2022-12-26 22:54

Well, any Web site that could be useful to view in Emacs but has
extraneous content that isn't useful to show in Emacs (headers, menus,
etc).

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ilemming · 2022-12-26 23:09

You know about `(eww-readable)`, do you? It's not great though. Would
be nice to have something even better.

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deaddyfreddy · 2022-12-27 12:13

Well, `w3m.el` had filters, though they were pretty simple (regex
based replacements, AIR). These days I would prefer to use a more
robust, probably selector-like (think of Clojure library `enlive` or
CSS selectors) solution.

P.S. So, I'm talking something like, say if we want to render a post
vote counter only (`shr-` functions are imaginary ones):

    (thread-first html
      (shr-select "#vote-arrows-t3_zupne5")
      (shr-render-string))

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github-alphapapa · 2022-12-28 19:50

Yes, `org-web-tools` makes use of it.  Its algorithm works pretty
well, but it's not suitable for every site.

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github-alphapapa · 2022-12-28 19:51

Some Elisp libraries already exist that implement CSS/XPath-style
selectors.  I catalogued some at https://github.com/alphapapa/emacs-
package-dev-handbook