Whiteboard in Emacs reddit / emacs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- senkijun · 2022-12-06 08:54 Hey guys, saw this new obsidian plugin and wanted to ask if there is any mode in emacs that has similar functionality. ( org-download works great to drop things in org files but this kinda drag drop resizing blocks around would be super cool in emacs.) [https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1599880530958221313](https://twitte r.com/kepano/status/1599880530958221313) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- llcc_reddit · 2022-12-06 09:31 https://github.com/misohena/el-easydraw is a good start to go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- senkijun · 2022-12-06 09:40 Cooool, never heard of this. Thanks a lot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pathemata · 2022-12-06 09:55 Very gimmicky and "nice" on first inspection. But less usefull than you may think. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Primary-Wave2 · 2022-12-06 11:17 There is a reasons why tools like notion etc. are outcompeting org- mode for note taking and it isn't just being mouse-driven or simple to use. Embedding content is really really nice, especially as a college student. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sogo00 · 2022-12-06 11:52 You can do similar things with any org-capture extension for a browser, even better you can select just the text you want and get the meta-data stored as well. Most tools biggest selling point compared to emacs is being a saas solution (ie you dont have to install anything or sync files) and the ability to share and collaborate with others on those documents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wysteriary · 2022-12-06 12:31 That's kinda what I'd say about org-mode tbh. Even though I'm always on the computer, basically every single day, I still heavily use pen and paper notes. And it's not because I'm old ... I've just found that using a one-dimensional stream of plain text files to make notes and work through my thoughts is -- on first inspection so elegant and simple it can't possibly be a bad workflow -- actually just gimmicky and less useful in practice (for me at least, I know many people here swear by org-mode). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lwalker043 · 2022-12-06 13:02 personally i find it very much depends on the type of notes youre taking. i swear by org mode for knowledge keeping: all the little things i forget when setting up a linux installation, once in a blue moon css problems and their simple solutions, my list of to-read blog posts or articles, etc etc. essentially, all the things i could write down physically, but i'll certainly be unable to find that piece of paper in 6 months when i suddenly need it. whereas when taking notes, working through problems, etc, nothing beats pen and paper. also, org agenda. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pathemata · 2022-12-06 13:25 Maybe you don't want to collect your notes, you just want to "think through your notes" and discard them later. Org-mode is just text on the computer. (in the simplest form). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlanYx · 2022-12-06 15:51 >There is a reasons why tools like notion etc. are outcompeting org- mode for note taking... "Outcompeting" is a little strong... it's not a competition :) Also, as nice as the visual features of Obsidian are, at its core it still isn't an outliner, which makes it not particularly great for detailed notes with a lot of structure. When I was in college I used to have great big outlines of every class, with topics and subtopics nested deeply, like a book. But thanks for sharing this whiteboarding functionality! That would be good as a visual index for a collection of notes. There is a package called org-real (also see org-boxes) that lets you create and manage 2D visual relationships in an org buffer. That might be a little up your alley: https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/pfhtuh/preview_orgreal/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nagora · 2022-12-06 16:52 saas: software you don't own, don't control, and might lose access to at literally any moment night or day. Yep - that's a big selling point for me all right! Yum yum. What surprises me is that this isn't even a theoretical issue - people have been bitten by saas going away many times in the real world (hello, Google). Collaboration isn't an aspect of saas, of course, but simply of a central server or a well-designed networking protocol. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- luiggi_oasis · 2022-12-06 20:16 Drawing on a text editor conceived 40 years ago to work over terminals, what a fucking fine piece of engineering this is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- luiggi_oasis · 2022-12-06 20:19 The truly selling point over org mode is that everyone can click on a link and see the nicely formatted document that mostly you have contributed to. If sharing my org files live were as easy as using Google docs... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- timmymayes · 2022-12-06 21:48 As someone who was a very heavy notion user gone org-mode user. Not owning my data is a much bigger issue for me. Also: * Also you can embed images and links. * For diagraming you have PlantUML and GraphVis. * Codeblocks you can execute directly in org mode are far more useful for my programming notes. * Todos that jump directly to the code I need to edit * org-roam for zekklekasten style notes and daily journal * Tables are handled quite well too. And I own every bit of of my data, its all in plain text etc. The interface could also be expanded if you really wanted, Look at org- roam-ui's handling of nodes in both 2d and 3d. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- trararawe · 2022-12-06 22:49 One can dream ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alecStewart1 · 2022-12-06 23:14 A not as advanced solution compared to what u/llcc_reddit made and a builtin one is [artist.el](https://github.com/emacs- mirror/emacs/blob/master/lisp/textmodes/artist.el) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- senkijun · 2022-12-07 10:24 I think this should be here; https://github.com/wdavew/org-excalidraw/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JJGase · 2022-12-08 06:11 Exactly why I stopped using Obsidian. I want my notes to be available for decades. I know Obsidian uses markdown so I’d never be completely locked out of my notes, but something completely open end to end is much better.