how has bbs influenced the meta verse? reddit / bbs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fr1endlyberry · 2022-05-24 15:34 was just wondering, let me know what you guys think ---------------------------------------------------------------------- wndrbr3d · 2022-05-24 15:53 I'd wager none. There might be a distant relative that drives some influence (the idea of forums, chat, etc.), but even those are several generations removed. The average age of a Facebook employee is 28, so I'd wager that most of the people working on Meta/Metaverse haven't even used a touchtone phone ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cyclop5 · 2022-05-24 18:45 I think it depends on your definition of "influence". But you said it right there - the idea of forums - BBS's did that. Download sites are (fairly) directly influenced. Heck, you could even argue that bittorrent was based off the non-centralized concept of FidoNet (and related). Most of the things you encounter can have a line drawn back to a BBS fairly easily. Facebook could conceivably be tied to message boards - just with more multimedia. While you're right - most of the folks working on Meta don't even know what a dial tone is (probably), the *concepts* they're working with are drawn from our beloved BBS's. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- denzuko · 2022-05-25 00:06 None outside of being the forerunner to and father of the mmorpg which eventually became second life and now metaverse. Now that I'm on my pc, I'll expand upon this further. Let's take a trip on the Gartner hype cycle. The MMORPG came out of the popularity that MUDs (Multi User Dungeons) had which thanks to the BBS we got door games such as L.O.R.D. and Tradewars. Shortly after the rise of AOL and the eternal september one would still find a ton of MUDs online and a little directory site called mudlist released a desktop client that allowed one to 'surf' for muds to play. While this was going on more users where being drawn to online play though graphical based games like those done by dwango (doom, duke nukem, etc) and soon runescape took off. This lead to the maturity of MMO games with the tipping point being Myst Online, World of Warcraft, and of course Second Life. Second life was the most unique in that one actually could earn in world money that can be exchanged for USD. Many would claim that second life would be the new www 2.0 and was *the* platform for new media. This naturally drew investors and brands doing this phase that was the rise towards a peak of inflated expectations. However even with projects like OpenSim that created the base software for second life clones and worked with linden labs to add in an inventory/account sharing protocol the bubble burst when linden labs tried to control the adult industry that had developed on their platform to the point of shutting it down entirely. This had kill the economy and the same businesses whom had complained about the adult industry saw this as a signal to get out. Thus second life and web 2.0 had no more f'ks to give. While this was going on the internet started to turn its back on being an open interconnected web. Thus the old walled garden of the BBS returned. Fast forward a bit to the point where the world has start to climb though the slope of enlightenment. Crypto has finally become adopted thus given the world a decentralized version of linden lab's L$ and the same developers that wanted to create VR headsets for Secondlife (see https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/cave/Becoming%20Dragon.pdf for the white paper on the CAVE™ Virtual Reality system) are now recreating that dream low cost portable android based hardware and democratized software. Facebook's Meta only falls into all this in that they are the walled gardened "BBS" one needs to have a login with to access the so called "metaverse" (mind you metaverse originally ment the distributed network of opensim second life clones and the new media that was created on that platform). The BBS is now the antithesis of the modern web and metaverse. Where many whom run a BBS do it solely for the community and nostalgia factor or live in such remote regions that dial-up or HAM radio is the only way to communicate with the outside world via echonets like fidonet, fsxnet, or usenet. Funny thing is one BBS I know actually developed a web3 UI so one can use their BBS in VR or via a mod for minecraft. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Otherwise-Willow6904 · 2022-05-25 01:00 It helped spread porn. I know I bought a 9600 baud modem for a specific reason. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- YserviusPalacost · 2022-05-25 04:21 Real men use rotary phones! 😁 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- denzuko · 2022-05-25 06:48 Real men use amplitude modulation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- geekhiker42 · 2022-05-26 15:50 BBS influenced the meta versa culture quite a bit. Many of those annoying acronyms and common mis-spellings of words. Emojis were born during the BBS era. Even the anonymous anonymity that plagues social media has roots all the way back to flame wars on BBSes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- the_deserted_island · 2022-06-03 20:16 Huge. There's a direct line. It's at the expectations for how people want to communicate with each other online, which has only evolved from there. People need to think bigger than the technology influences and think about the changes in human interaction that occurred due to BBSs. BBSs established the idea of geographically separated live communication with groups of people. People could be anonymous online for the first time. People created separate online friend groups for the first time that were separate from in person. I can go on and on...