WWIVNews Vol 8 Issue 1 - WWIV 5.0 Release Announcement reddit / bbs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2015-12-21 23:28 Drop of MODEM and XP support, now supports Telenet access. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 9600bps · 2015-12-28 03:00 WWIV without modem support...who would have imagined! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AtariBasic · 2016-01-06 14:45 I had no idea WWIV was still kicking. Wow. I honestly thought it died out under the crush of Telegard / Renegade / Mystic, then suffered a fatal blow with the rise of the Internet. How wrong I was. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dono111 · 2016-01-14 18:15 Holy.. I expected to see PCBoard, QuickBBS .. but not WWIV .. woah. or maybe even chat of a forum/emulex clone in here :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-17 01:10 Why don't BBSes use SSH? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-17 01:10 Others are still alive? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2016-01-17 06:00 They are not programmed for SSH encryption keys, they still use DOS technology and they hacked the Modem part to use Telenet instead of Hayes commands. You have to understand these BBS programmers started out in DOS with Modems, and hard to learn how to get the DOS based BBS software on the Internet and on Windows and Linux and OSX. It is not a perfect transition, for example the BBS software does not have spell check in most cases. There used to be a spell check plugin that was part of an external editor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-17 07:00 So, they can't use SSH during BBS sessions like telnet? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dono111 · 2016-01-17 15:57 I highly doubt it but I didn't expect wwiv to still be alive. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2016-01-17 18:44 From what I understand they only support Telnet and not SSH which requires encryption keys. The BBS software is not set up for encryption, but it would be nice if it was. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-17 19:16 So no one had tried to encrypt the whole BBS software's network connections? :( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- cleuseau · 2016-01-17 20:09 It is possible antdude it is just nobody has done it yet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-17 20:18 I'm surprised. Someone should do it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2016-01-18 04:30 Nope, because nobody knows how to do it. They just learned how Telenet worked and they never learned how encryption worked. The DOS BBS never used encryption, it sent ASCII text over a modem unencrypted. So they used the same Modem model when converting it to the Internet and Telnet. It sends ASCII text over Telnet. It does not use encryption. You have to understand that a BBS programmer won't do more than they think they should to get things working. They don't think about encryption because the old DOS Modem model didn't even use it. It would be nice if they added SSH support later on, in fact you can add it as an issue on Github if you are serious about them putting it in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-18 07:11 Ah, I am not a coder. I just do SQA like in security field. ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2016-01-18 21:13 It doesn't take a coder to make an issue on Github. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-18 21:19 Broken link! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2016-01-18 21:25 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-18 21:28 https://github.com/wwivbbs/wwiv/issues/660 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ebookit · 2016-01-18 21:32 Good now see if they implement it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-18 21:58 It seems like I wasn't the only one too! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mmunson · 2016-01-25 05:00 WWIV is actually adding SSH support as we speak NOW. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-01-25 05:18 :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gjhgjh · 2016-02-25 18:14 What is the benefit of spending the time do such a thing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- antdude · 2016-02-25 19:12 Security and privacy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gjhgjh · 2016-02-25 19:33 I don't see much use for any more security or privacy on a public BBS than what telnet already affords. Although if a sysop wants SSH support he can add it himself. One of the things that made WWIV popular was that you got access to the source code when you registered your BBS. WWIV 5.0 is open source and available online without kind of registration fee.