InitWare Comes to macOS
reddit / BSD

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PunishedRaion · 2021-08-25 00:22

Why are you hell bent on initware being a thing if you're not gonna
even respect BSDisms by not even porting the IPC to something BSD-
native (dbus is not BSD-native), or instituting ports to Mach-based
architectures?

I'm sorry, but I really don't see a point of this project if it's just
systemd with a coat of shiny paint and duct taped to work on the BSDs.
Unless you decide to drop all the Linuxisms, it's just a port of
Linuxisms to an OS family already beleaguered with pressure to become
more GNU/Linux-like.

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MrRichBOB · 2021-08-25 00:42

> dbus is not BSD-native

What message bus is, by any chance?

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MrRichBOB · 2021-08-25 00:42

NGL, thought it was called, “InitWar.”

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PunishedRaion · 2021-08-25 01:38

None of them. Use another IPC. I've always said for years the BSDs
should adopt UNIX STREAMS, since those already interop with pipes,
sockets, drivers, and terminals.

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paprok · 2021-08-25 16:29

> Why are you hell bent...?


'cause they wanna shove systemd down everybody's throat and make them
pretend that they're happy and it's the best thing ever XD.
conceptually speaking it's the closest to what Microsoft would come up
with, given a chance. closed, proprietary, monolithic, cryptic,
bloated.

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PiningForTheFnords · 2021-08-25 20:00

I hate to say this, but I'm gonna do it anyway: I hope that project
fails. Nobody wants systemd. Nobody likes systemd. Not on Linux, not
on UNIX, and especially not on the BSDs.

Why can't people leave a perfectly functional non-broken init system
alone?

Edit: Oh god I just saw another one of his posts. He's going to bring
this to OpenBSD? This is going to provoke DeRaadt into a tirade the
likes of which even $deity has never seen.

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nelmaloc · 2021-08-30 09:36

The sysv init system on BSD and Linux are very different things. Linux
does need systemd, and many people (me included) like it.