"*BSD is dying — Anonymous Coward, Slashdot ©1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004" — Keynote by Jordan Hubbard, Apple Computer, Inc. @ EuroBSDCon 2004 reddit / BSD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- umlcat · 2020-10-19 15:10 Definitly not dying, but requires more organized team coworkers and $$$ sponsors ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mcnst · 2020-10-19 15:16 Who could have known that it’d be Slashdot that would die down first… Wikipedia reports that Slashdot was actually launched only in 1997; I believe the prior year references back to 1993 are due to the USL v. BSDi lawsuit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- merdely · 2020-10-19 15:40 My friend Jason gave a fantastic "BSD is Dying" talk at NYCBSDCon in '07: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0](https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0&t=903s) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jjinco33 · 2020-10-19 15:57 But Netcraft confirmed it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Navydevildoc · 2020-10-19 16:00 Just looked up where Jordan Hubbard is these days, he's over at NVIDIA. Also was at ix working on FreeNAS/TrueNAS for years, which makes sense. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dismorphic · 2020-10-19 16:08 /me attempts to bait JKH into a 2020 update... brb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- qci · 2020-10-19 17:55 BSD is everywhere (Nintendo, Sony, Facebook, Apple, Netflix, Checkpoint, Citrix, Juniper and many more). It won't die so soon. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kurt_Irving · 2020-10-19 18:15 What are you on man?! BSD is alive in server-related purposes and competing with GNU/Linux stuff in system administration stuff. I prefer Gentoo, but BSD has its uses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- m1ss1ontomars2k4 · 2020-10-19 19:36 What are you on? The title of the presentation is a joke, since the presentation itself is dedicated to proving it wrong... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ZarK-eh · 2020-10-19 20:09 Long live *BSD!!? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jsalpha2 · 2020-10-19 23:51 Only by shooting itself in the foot. Make installation easier. Step 1 Install OS. Steps 2 and 3 Do a bunch of confusing stuff with the command line, editing files with archaic notepad substitutes. Step 4 Install desktop. No one makes it to step 4 or beyond. If they do the mouse won't work and you have to edit more files. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nahnah2017 · 2020-10-20 00:15 You have never installed a BSD in the last 10 years amiright? And you don't work in this field, also true? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Buttmoist · 2020-10-20 00:54 Isn't the Nintendo switch based on Linux? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jsalpha2 · 2020-10-20 01:53 Try to install several times a year for the last ten years. Used manuals and you tube videos. I want a desktop (prefer Xfce) to be step 2. FreeBSD does not install a graphical environment by default. Why? Installing a desktop is in chapter 5. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- nahnah2017 · 2020-10-20 01:55 Not everyone needs or wants a desktop environment. If you want one, just skip to chapter 5 and do it. Problem solved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rhavenn · 2020-10-20 03:23 No, because Nintendo would have to supply the source code for the kernel, etc... due to the GPL, if you asked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mcnst · 2020-10-20 15:56 Not sure about recently, but traditionally a lot of FreeBSD devs would actually use OS X as desktop, so, FreeBSD was not very good at desktop. DJB has famously switched to Linux after writing a guide or two of how to recompile the FreeBSD kernel in order to use graphics, audio and other stuff. OpenBSD is actually more friendly for desktop use, and you already get X from the base system, plus you’re never expected to recompile the kernel or find any kernel modules that you might want to load. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- daemonpenguin · 2020-10-22 01:07 Why not use a desktop edition of the OS? GhostBSD is FreeBSD with a desktop pre-configured. No need to install anything or touch the command line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2020-10-22 01:47 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mgladiethor · 2020-10-24 17:18 it is practically dead ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vvelox · 2020-10-25 17:10 > FreeBSD was not very good at desktop Honestly this has not been true since 2003 when FreeBSD got support for the Nvidia video chipset. Prior to that decent video support was really ~~lack luster~~ non-existant. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- glamdivitionen · 2020-10-30 09:20 LoL .. Did you even read past the first three words in the title?? :)