FreeBSD Looks At Making Wayland Support Available By Default
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floatboth · 2017-12-23 19:09

phoronix is good at reading mailing lists… even noticed [my work on
Weston
stuff](https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Weston-
FreeBSD-HiDPI-Rust), I didn't expect news articles to be written about
this :D

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streambag · 2017-12-23 19:28

> [...] but for the foreseeable future FreeBSD will continue
defaulting to X.Org-based sessions. 

Well, there really is no default for graphical sessions on FreeBSD,
since it comes with neither Xorg nor Wayland by default.

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BumpitySnook · 2017-12-23 19:36

That's the Phoronix model: Read mailing lists -> write trivial
blogspam paragraph about the list mail that may or may not be correct
-> slap ads on it -> $$$.

That, and [running nonsensical benchmarks on debug
builds](https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/bsd-mac-os-x-
hurd-others/993922-running-freebsd-12-trueos-on-amd-
epyc?p=993934#post993934) and never correcting or redacting their
results 😂.

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floatboth · 2017-12-23 19:51

To be fair, `-NODEBUG` kernels are not very well explained/documented
:( Even the note in the `UPDATING` file, which no one would read when
they're uhhh *not updating* (but installing for the first time),
mentions that debug options in the kernel are enabled by default, but
does not mention that there already exists a kernel config that
disables them.

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BumpitySnook · 2017-12-23 20:43

https://wiki.freebsd.org/BenchmarkAdvice :

> * Do not benchmark -CURRENT or -BETA. Extensive debugging features
are most probably enabled. If you absolutely have to benchmark one of
them, you have to build your own FreeBSD from source. You need to at
least disable options WITNESS and DIAGNOSTIC in the kernel
configuration and define MALLOC_PRODUCTION in
src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c or /etc/src.conf.

> * Do not compare the speed of a traditional FS (like
UFS/UFS+SU/UFS+J/UFS+SUJ/ext3/ext4/...) with a more modern FS (like
ZFS/btrfs) in a cross-OS(-version) test. If you keep everything else
(OS/version/compiler/benchmarks) the same and only the FS is
different, this does not apply, of course.

They have made the same mistake with debug Linux kernels as well.  The
first step of real benchmarking is determining if your numbers make
sense, and if not, why not.

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Xerxero · 2017-12-24 19:59

The article makes it look that only intel and AMD will work with
Wayland. What about NVIDIA?

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Buttmoist · 2017-12-25 15:37

Pretty sure that the nvidia binary doesn't support wayland on Linux.