Best BSD for Kaby Lake w/ Integrated Graphics reddit / BSD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- entropylabs · 2017-09-08 18:41 Hey Guys - I'm a long time Linux user and really want to jump into BSD. Trouble is I have a laptop with an Intel Many Lake professor and integrated graphics. I've tried FreeBSD but it was really sluggish - probably down to the processor. Any ideas what I should try next? I hear OpenBSD or Dragonfly may have better Kaby Lake support. Thanks so much !!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- deux3xmachina · 2017-09-08 19:00 I've got a 7th gen i5 in my main laptop right now, which I believe is kaby lake, it's running DragonFly BSD 4.9-DEV just fine "out of the box". Boot speeds are going to be a bit slower than you're used to on Linux, but it's a very fast system overall. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- entropylabs · 2017-09-08 19:05 That's great to hear - thanks for that. I was thinking Dragonfly may be the way to go... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- fupjack · 2017-09-08 19:55 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/09/08/20216.html Should work dandy with DragonFly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- floatboth · 2017-09-08 22:47 > I've tried FreeBSD but it was really sluggish You didn't actually have acceleration enabled. Install FreeBSD 12-CURRENT, build the `graphics/drm-next-kmod` port, load its modules as instructed by the post-installation message. Use the `modesetting` DDX in Xorg. FreeBSD has a lot of desktop support now. Modern `i915` and `amdgpu` kernel drivers work; Mesa is up to date; drivers for input devices support the `evdev` protocol, the PS/2 mouse driver even separates the ThinkPad Trackpoint into a separate `evdev` device just like Linux does; it's possible to run Wayland compositors like `sway` on bare metal (not inside Xorg), with XWayland working (though Wayland ports are broken right now); even [Vulkan](https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/ comments/6ypylx/dolphin_emulator_running_with_vulkanamdgpu_on/) is possible already. [KDE Plasma 5](https://euroquis.nl/bobulate/?p=1609) is available, [GNOME 3 is being updated](https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports-gnome) too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BumpitySnook · 2017-09-08 23:49 Even using scfb over vesa may have taken away the sluggishness. I'm glad drm-next is available as a port now! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BumpitySnook · 2017-09-08 23:50 Dragonfly is a fun operating system, give it a go! (I'm a FreeBSD person myself, but I won't pretend we haven't struggled to keep up with the latest Intel Linux drivers in a reasonable way ever since Haswell.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Laachax · 2017-09-09 01:12 Is there a way to update a freeBSD 11 install to freeBSD 12 or whatever is current? I installed 11 awhile back and I rather not have to redo a lot of stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kyleW_ne · 2017-09-09 01:23 Search the handbook for source upgrading and there should be some lines of code you can cut and paste and run at a shell prompt to do so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gimpbully · 2017-09-09 02:00 Hackintosh? (Ducks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- icantthinkofone · 2017-09-09 04:57 > keep up with the latest Intel Linux drivers Imagine that. Intel hands over drivers to Linux while FreeBSD has to invent their own. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- floatboth · 2017-09-09 10:16 Yeah just build/install from source. You can even extract snapshot tarballs if you're careful (there's some stuff with the schg flag on some files… and don't let it overwrite /etc/passwd :D) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- floatboth · 2017-09-09 10:18 well, more like invent a compatibility layer for Linux kernel drivers. It's working very well now. The problem in the past was that there was no layer, the drivers were directly modified – and that made it way too hard to keep up with the updates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SylvestrMcMnkyMcBean · 2017-09-09 10:18 OpenBSD is working on it, but this diff just went out for testing a couple days ago: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=150480155417106&w=2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BumpitySnook · 2017-09-09 16:39 It wasn't a FreeBSD vs Linux comparison — it was a FreeBSD vs Dragonfly comparison. Obviously Intel writes the drivers in Linux and we're stuck porting from there. Dragonfly has the same barrier to porting the Linux drivers as we do, and yet, they've managed to stay closer to recent. Kudos to DFBSD.