Is OpenBSD still facing financial problems? reddit / BSD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- altiris28048 · 2015-09-13 14:40 I just learned/read about this now, http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140114072427 but up until today OpenBSD team is still working and is even working in implementing a native hypervisor....so did they get funded/did they make it by? Are they still in trouble in the future years? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- heliox · 2015-09-13 15:07 Nobody knows. I think one of the big issues with donations is that there's no transparency for how the money is spent. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Qwaszert · 2015-09-13 15:49 http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/activities.html but of course you didn't even bother to look. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- notaplumber · 2015-09-13 15:53 You don't think this is transparent enough? And if you go up a directory, you see all the previous years expenditure. http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/financials/2014/ You're a moron. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bjh13 · 2015-09-13 15:57 No, they are quite well funded now, even Microsoft kicked in a ton of cash. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Qwaszert · 2015-09-13 16:00 for this year at least, it can be a real challenge to maintain ongoing donation amounts, so we shouldn't stop and think everything is fine going forward. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- brynet · 2015-09-13 16:00 They've received some funding, but to suggest they're well funded or have a ton of cash is pretty misleading if you compare the numbers with say, the FreeBSD foundation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rhabarba · 2015-09-13 16:29 If you have some funds to give, the NetBSD Foundation is struggling to keep NetBSD alive. Other than that, OpenBSD surely always can need donations too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phessler · 2015-09-13 16:43 OpenBSD is in not as dire straights as they were in that original story. Some funding has come in since then, and bills are being paid, and we are now able to directly hire some developers to work on important projects for OpenBSD. Ongoing donations are required to keep up the level of work that is being done. Sadly, monthly bills are still monthly, and new projects are always incoming. Thank you to everyone that has donated in the past, and thanks to all that will donate in the future. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bjh13 · 2015-09-13 17:10 They have raised $215,000 this year. I'm not arguing that compared to say linux or FreeBSD they are receiving a comparable level of money, but this is far from the dire circumstances of two years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bjh13 · 2015-09-13 17:11 Of course more donations are important, but the situation is greatly improved from 2 years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- perciva · 2015-09-13 19:46 > the NetBSD Foundation is struggling to keep NetBSD alive Really? Their last financial report says they have $250k in the bank and they're spending only $36k/year. I've considered giving them some money but there didn't seem to be much need when they've got 8 years of expenses in the bank. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pyvpx · 2015-09-13 20:03 it's not lack of money, but direction and developers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- rhabarba · 2015-09-13 20:04 More money means more full-time developers, actually. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pyvpx · 2015-09-13 20:12 http://julipedia.meroh.net/2013/06/self-interview-after-leaving- netbsd.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- derfherdez · 2015-09-13 22:47 and a mission statement! newer source control, because fuck compatibility! NetBSD has always been about being on the other end of the 'cutting edge' blade, instead looking for portability. But they don't have Theo after forcing him out, and they don't have Linus, so they sit there in obscurity. Remember being stuck in the 1.x until they went all firefox? Now they are going to version 7. Looks like the version # bumps didn't change anything. Too many steering committees, too many groups. As always they needed a dictator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- skarphace · 2015-09-14 06:17 Well, that's not an awful lot. So that would give them two or three full time developers/project managers and hosting bills. This obviously doesn't include full-timers not on their payroll, but volunteer work doesn't cover all the bases for a project so large. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- altiris28048 · 2015-09-14 12:46 It's really sad though, there are so many wealthy companies, sometimes I think whether these CEOs are completely brain dead (actually spending through company's money on personal wants is a bad thing lol but...idk). Do they not have hobbies or things they like that is related to what they work for? I'm certain $25k from apple, Microsoft, and Dell or HP (hell they could divide it between them) yearly or every 2 years is nothing for them. As far as why MS donated so much money I wouldn't bet it's because of the whole SSH integration. Microsoft will forever be thought of as a leech in my mind.