OpenBSD Is Getting Its Own Native Hypervisor reddit / BSD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dragonfly_blue · 2015-09-01 14:21 All right, alla breve accolade @mlarkin, this is all very fine & good. I guess I have questions regarding shadow pagination & whatnot, but I suppose this will overall be a net win for my team & I'm curious to see what kind of weird traffic will be on the tech@ mailing list digest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phessler · 2015-09-01 17:54 what are your questions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shawnwebb · 2015-09-01 18:58 It'll be a sad day when/if OpenBSD's hypervisor supports Windows before FreeBSD's. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tireseas · 2015-09-01 22:37 Awesome news. Look forward to using it ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mioelnir · 2015-09-01 23:32 Considering the mail already states that they will support all the bad legacy stuff in software emulation, it is maybe not entirely unthinkable that they get some version of Windows support in the tree without requiring the EFI work that is currently blocking the Nahanni patches from progressing further with regards to Windows on FreeBSD/bhyve. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phessler · 2015-09-02 05:23 Not _all_ of the legacy stuff, but Mike is being pragmatic. We have problems to solve, and will need (some) legacy support to solve them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dragonfly_blue · 2015-09-02 14:29 I had questions at first regarding the possibility of shadow pagination hitting a swap partition & wondering how that would impact post-mortems. But then I was like, "Aaahh, my last server had eight. flippin'. gigs. of error-correction-code. Pshaw, it's gonna hit swap." But then I was thinking about it, and I had a really good time overall working with qemu on openbsd x86, even though it writes the running /img file back onto the disk in a wide variety of formats, making the same sorts of difficulties. But it didn't stop me from using qemu to make all sorts of different templates. One time I decided to start with obsd256.img : obsd512.img : obsd1024.img : obsd2G.img and so forth, so I had appropriate-sized images ready for burning to business card cd-r or to 512mb USB flash drives. My four gig image file I burned to CompactFlash & used it with a CF- IDE adapter for a custom firewall named DAMOCLES. DAMOCLES was a really nice little dedicated box that ran pf non-stop, although I couldn't afford a monitor for it ( "afford" in terms of both space & money. ) You can tell; this was all long ago, by the Antediluvian spiral staircases & Anesazi animal forms of the mid- South-by-Southwest, when I had time to relentlessly tinker with 'pf.conf' until it worked seamlessly with the 'pftop' I was using. You'd think four GB of CF wouldn't cut it, but really, all I wanted to do was to store logfiles. My obsd256.img was cutting it pretty close, though. I know some jaguars who, back in the day, fit OpenBSD on 32MB flash, called the 'compactBSD distro' or what-have-you, but I couldn't even get my custom version, even without X, down to a 128mb image, alas. It would boot, sure, but then it would fill up the root partition saying 'partition full', & would hit swap space. I reckon I've rambled about this here obsession I have with minimalism quite long enough. I'm sure the OpenBSD hypervisor will have the Velveteen Sheen telling the Velveteen Colossus that he's as handsome as the day he stepped across the asteroid belt, the sole of his left boot grasping Ceres, from Io, then Ganymede, Europa, Titan, low until the lights are rising high above the beer volcanoes of Barsoom. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- phessler · 2015-09-02 14:41 Should I tell you that I once had a full openbsd firewall on a single floppy? Only thing I couldn't include was an editor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gonzopancho · 2015-09-04 19:47 Your sad day won't happen. Bhyve has been running Windows for months. https://twitter.com/nahannisys/status/624345562649915392 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TweetsInCommentsBot · 2015-09-04 19:47 [**@nahannisys**](https://twitter.com/nahannisys/) > [2015-07-23 22:29 UTC](https://twitter.com/nahannisys/status/624345562649915392) > . @lattera Never sick of that question :) As mentioned, some minor additional changes to get headless operation going. ---- ^This ^message ^was ^created ^by ^a ^bot [^[Contact ^creator]](http://www.np.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=jas ie3k&subject=TweetsInCommentsBot)[^[Source ^code]](https://github.com/janpetryk/reddit-bot) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shawnwebb · 2015-09-04 20:06 Well, it's not opensourced, yet. The average 11-CURRENT FreeBSD user still can't boot Windows VMs in bhyve. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gonzopancho · 2015-09-04 20:27 It's not >upstreamed< yet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shawnwebb · 2015-09-04 22:17 It's neither. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gonzopancho · 2015-09-04 23:40 You appear to be claiming that Peter and Neel won't be open sourcing those pieces. https://twitter.com/creepingfur/status/639243025839882240?ref_src=twsr c%5Etfw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- shawnwebb · 2015-09-05 00:22 Nope. I'm saying it's currently neither opensource nor in upstream FreeBSD, which is true. I'm in very close contact with Peter. Emailed back and forth with him about this very topic just a couple days ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dragonfly_blue · 2015-09-05 15:06 You'll use ed & like it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- trish1975 · 2015-09-10 09:27 So what's happening with it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [deleted] · 2015-10-06 11:45 [deleted] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- gonzopancho · 2015-10-06 11:56 Peter released the code a couple days ago. https://people.freebsd.org/%7Egrehan/bhyve_uefi/