Census & questionnaire lazarus / 8-Other ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vicot · 2013-11-30 16:43 Please answer the following questions: a) where do you live? is Object Pascal popular there? b) what is your preferred programming environment for Object Pascal (Lazarus/Delphi/Turbo Pascal)? c) how many years have you been using Object Pascal? d) what is your programming ability in Object Pascal (hobby / semi- professional / professional) e) is Object Pascal your main programming language? What other languages do you use? f) what kind of programs do you write/intend to write with Object Pascal? Please give details. g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? h) how do you feel about Object Pascal? What do you like/dislike about it? Feel free to add NEW QUESTIONS to this list, and to provide extra information. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rails · 2013-11-30 16:51 Disclaimer: I am a newbie, so my opinion is (probably) worth LESS than 2 cents. Why are you positing this stuff, if your disclaimer above is accurate?  You are beginning to look like a troll. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vicot · 2013-11-30 17:33 Quote from: Rails on November 30, 2013, 05:51:53 pmDisclaimer: I am a newbie, so my opinion is (probably) worth LESS than 2 cents. Why are you positing this stuff, if your disclaimer above is accurate?  You are beginning to look like a troll. I really don't understand your objection, or your suspicion. Yes, the disclaimer in my signature is accurate. I am a newbie at Object Pascal (although not at Pascal, which I learned many years ago), and a hobby programmer. I am getting seriously interested in Object Pascal and I intend to write applications in Lazarus. And I would like to acquire some background info about Object Pascal and its community. I see nothing wrong with that, nothing remotely suspicious. Now, why should I be looking like a troll?!? Only because I am asking questions? I really don't get it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- eny · 2013-11-30 19:14 a) earth; yes. b) 23deg; white coffee nearby. c) many. d) master. e) dutch; english; german; french. f) Compilable programs. >>  Please give details. Starting with 'program' and ending with a dot. g) My crystall ball is in repairs at the local Gypsy Fortune Teller Shop. h) I dislike useless questionnaires about it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jarto · 2013-11-30 20:55 a) Finland, not that popular. b) Delphi. c) 14 d) Professional. e) Yes. f) I write anything and everything with OP. g) Definitely. h) I love the language. Easy to read, fast to compile, fast apps, easy to maintain, helps in writing bug free code. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Leledumbo · 2013-12-01 02:58 a) Indonesia, most people here said it's dead, yet the local Delphi/Pascal facebook group has twice members than C/C++/Objective-C (merged) counterpart b) Lazarus c) 8 years d) professional e) Yes, C, C++, C#, Java, VB, VB .NET, PHP, Lua, Ruby, Perl, Prolog, Haskell, JavaScript, SQL, maybe more f) Any, console, desktop, web, kernel, whatever g) Sure h) The best programming language ever, love the strict discipline, runtime checks, leak checker, and everything else you don't have in other languages without compromising a lof of runtime speed and memory usage. I actually like to have its syntax resembles Oberon (in case- insensitive form, of course), but backward compatibility is something that we cannot ignore. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- vicot · 2013-12-01 07:59 a) where do you live? is Object Pascal popular there? Italy. Honestly I don't know if it is popular here, but I found some Delphi forums and resources in Italian, so I assume that there are Delphi programmers. b) what is your preferred programming environment for Object Pascal (Lazarus/Delphi/Turbo Pascal)? I have decided to go with Lazarus c) how many years have you been using Object Pascal? I have not started yet (I did some classic Pascal, back in the days...) d) what is your programming ability in Object Pascal (hobby / semi- professional / professional) hobby, striving to become semi-professional (at least) e) is Object Pascal your main programming language? What other languages do you use? I think I will be concentrating on Object Pascal only f) what kind of programs do you write/intend to write with Object Pascal? Please give details. Hobby programs, involving database and personal management projects g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? Yes h) how do you feel about Object Pascal? What do you like/dislike about it? I really love the strict discipline, especially the well-ordered layout of the program. I also love the readability. The syntax is clear and logic. I don't dislike anything -- only, I wish it was more popular. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- kamischi · 2013-12-01 10:05 a) where do you live? is Object Pascal popular there? Germany. Not so much. b) what is your preferred programming environment for Object Pascal (Lazarus/Delphi/Turbo Pascal)? Lazarus is the only choice for Mac OS X c) how many years have you been using Object Pascal? Maybe 5. d) what is your programming ability in Object Pascal (hobby / semi- professional / professional) hobby - semi-professional e) is Object Pascal your main programming language? What other languages do you use? Fortran, Makro language of IgorPro f) what kind of programs do you write/intend to write with Object Pascal? Please give details. GUIs for scientific simulations, singing game (UltraStar Deluxe) g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? yes h) how do you feel about Object Pascal? What do you like/dislike about it? Nice. I like the option to use ObjectivePascal. The problem is that the best lazarus lcl for Mac is carbon. 64bit cocoa would be more convenient. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Edson · 2013-12-01 17:53 a) where do you live? is Object Pascal popular there? Perú. Delphi is no so popular here. Lazarus worse. b) what is your preferred programming environment for Object Pascal (Lazarus/Delphi/Turbo Pascal)? Lazarus by now. c) how many years have you been using Object Pascal? Difficult to calculate. Object Pascal, probably 2 years, but Pascal more time. d) what is your programming ability in Object Pascal (hobby / semi- professional / professional). hobby / semi-professional e) is Object Pascal your main programming language? What other languages do you use? I hope so. C, C++, VB, VBA, PL/SQL, different Assemblers, UNIX shell, some of Python, Javascript, PHP, and what I need for one specific project. f) what kind of programs do you write/intend to write with Object Pascal? Please give details. Interpreter, Preprocessor, Editors, Oracle Tools, Reporters, Graphical Tools, Engineering, Hardware Control, and more if it's possible. g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? Yes, but I'm worried of been one of the few survivors. h) how do you feel about Object Pascal? What do you like/dislike about it? Object Pascal is nice. The syntax is clear, readable  and protected for common errors. But have some problematic structures like unnecessary BEGIN-END, that difficult the writing, and lack of some modern features like multiline strings or garbage collector. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pacopenin · 2013-12-02 11:00 a) Spain. Not so much. b/ Delphi/Lazarus. c) 20. d) Profesional. e) Yes. C#, Vb.net, php. f) Management software always with firebird DB. g) Yes, sure. h) I love the language. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- exdatis · 2013-12-02 11:16 What are these questions? If you don't want to use this tool, use what you want. I used a dozen languages, ​​now use this, the best. Write a good application and you will have a job! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- hinst · 2013-12-02 12:19 If you think about it, FPC really has some advantages. I think that it wouldn't be too far from truth if I stated that Object Pascal is #2 native general-purpose language (with C++ on the first place; .NET, JVM and interpreters aside). What other native general-purpose languages are there? Vala, D, assembler, Haskell, Google Go... These are pretty obscure I think.  FPC has large code base, extensive standardized cross-platform library and it is easy to use. FPC libraries are usable while most C++ 3rd party libraries are incredibly hard to use because of low quality (they just won't compile) and other sh*t ---------------------------------------------------------------------- marcov · 2013-12-02 13:04 Quote from: hinst on December 02, 2013, 01:19:28 pmIf you think about it, FPC really has some advantages. I think that it wouldn't be too far from truth if I stated that Object Pascal is #2 native general- purpose language (with C++ on the first place; .NET, JVM and interpreters aside). What other native general-purpose languages are there? Plain C and VB(-classic).  VB classic is one of those other languages declared dead, but with a enormous installed base. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CaptBill · 2013-12-02 21:28 Quote from: exdatis on December 02, 2013, 12:16:53 pmWhat are these questions? If you don't want to use this tool, use what you want. I used a dozen languages, ​​now use this, the best. Write a good application and you will have a job! No, do that and you have your own business. A lot more to that than writing a program, unfortunately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- jack616 · 2013-12-03 13:00 I'll put it this way: If tablet PC's ran linux instead of "android" I'd probably buy a tablet. (Because then I could use lazarus) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Giu · 2013-12-03 22:58 Quote from: Edson on December 01, 2013, 06:53:12 pm g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? Yes, but I'm worried of been one of the few survivors. This is the third post I read in last 30min about pascal/lazarus dead  a) where do you live? is Object Pascal popular there? Spain. OP note so much, but Delphi b) what is your preferred programming environment for Object Pascal (Lazarus/Delphi/Turbo Pascal)? Delphi stole my heart a lot of years ago, but Lazarus its impressive c) how many years have you been using Object Pascal? Not so much, about 5 d) what is your programming ability in Object Pascal (hobby / semi- professional / professional) I dont develop in OP since some years e) is Object Pascal your main programming language? What other languages do you use? Not now, but maybe. We live in web world right now, and start a new project for desktop seems like a step back, but then, something remembers me how i like OP and comes here, and again..again... f) what kind of programs do you write/intend to write with Object Pascal? Please give details. Any right now, but if start, management solutions mainly g) do you see yourself still using Object Pascal in five year's time? Lazarus/Freepascal will still having a base dev? Then, you have your answer QuoteI'll put it this way: If tablet PC's ran linux instead of "android" I'd probably buy a tablet. (Because then I could use lazarus Mine uses Win8 Pro