happy christmas everyone :) lazarus / 8-Other ---------------------------------------------------------------------- speter · 2024-12-24 22:28 May all you bugs turn out to be (Australian) Christmas Beetles. cheers S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bart · 2024-12-24 23:05 Traditionally I add my greetings as an excercise in "obfuscated pascal"  Code: Pascal  [Select][+][-]window.onload = function(){var x1 = document.getElementById("main_content_section"); if (x1) { var x = document.getElementsByClassName("geshi");for (var i = 0; i program x_x; {$h-} const  x = 0;  xx = 1;  xxx =  xx shl xx;  xxxx = xxx + xx;  xxxxx = xx shl xxx;  xxxxxx = xxxxx + xx;  xxxxxxx = xxxxx + xxx;  xxxxxxxx = xxxxx + xxxx;  xl = xx shl xxxxxx + xx shl xxxx;  xxxxxxxxxx = xx shl xxxxxxxx + xx shl xxxxxxx + xx shl xxxxxx + xx shl xxx ;  var  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: string; procedure xx_xx(_x:string);var _xx: Byte;begin  _xx := (xl-byte(_x[x]) shr xx);  while _xx > 1 do begin write(char(1 shl xxxxxx)); dec(_xx); end;writeln(_x);end;  procedure xxx_xxx(var _x: string);var _xx: Integer;begin  for _xx := xx to byte(_x[x]) do _x[_xx]:= char(byte(_x[_xx])+byte(1 shl xxxxxxx + 1 shl xxxxx + 1 shl xxxx));end; function xxxx_xxxx(_x,_xx:integer):integer;begin  case _x>_xx of true: exit(_xx);false: exit(_x);end;end; procedure xxxxx_xxxxx;begin  setlength(xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,xxxxxxxxxx);end; procedure xxxxxx_xxxxxx;var  _x, _xx: Integer;  _xxx: String;begin  writeln;  _x := 1;  while xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[x]>#0 do  begin    _xx := 1+(_x-1) shl 1;    _xxx := copy(xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,1,_xx);    dec(byte(xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[x]), xxxx_xxxx(byte(xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[x]),_xx));    xxx_xxx(_xxx);    xx_xx(_xxx);    inc(_x);  end;end; function xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx: string;var  _x: char;  _xx: integer;begin  _xx := xx;  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[x] := char(xx shl xxxxxx + xx shl xxx);  _x := #0;  inc(_x, xx shl xxxxxxx + xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx + xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xxxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx - xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(round(sqrt(byte(_x))) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxxx + xx shl xxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxx + xx shl xx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shr xxx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shr xxx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxx + xx shl xx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxxxxx + xx);  _x := char(byte(_x) shr xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx - xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxx + xx shl xx + xx);  _x := char(byte(_x) shr xxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xxxx - xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shr xxx);  inc(_x, xx shl xx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   _x := char(byte(_x) shl xx);  inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx shl xxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxx + xx shl xxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   dec(_x, xx shl xxx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;   inc(_x, xx shl xxxxx + xx);  inc(_xx);  xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx[_xx] := _x;end; procedure xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxx;var  _x: String;begin  _x := xxxxxxx_xxxxxxx;  writeln;  xx_xx(_x);end;  begin  xxxxx_xxxxx;  xxxxxx_xxxxxx;  xxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxx;end. Have fun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dsiders · 2024-12-24 23:20 Merry Christmas. Watch out for the flying sheep, pigs and reindeer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dseligo · 2024-12-25 00:51 Quote from: Bart on December 25, 2024, 12:05:56 amHave fun. Nice Merry Christmas to everyone! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ginoo · 2024-12-25 05:21 Merry christmas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- paweld · 2024-12-25 08:08 Merry christmas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ackarwow · 2024-12-25 08:47 Merry Christmas! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Boleeman · 2024-12-25 09:04 Merry Christmas to All. Have a nice safe holiday, where ever in the world you reside. A small animation of snowflakes made with Lazarus (in Melbourne Australia it never snows, but we do have heat waves instead of cold snow) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlexTP · 2024-12-25 09:25 Thanks for Merry Christmas. I live in russian federation which has 100 years of atheism (after anti-Czar 'revolution'). So ppl here respect New Year but pay small attention to Christmas, sad! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- silvercoder70 · 2024-12-25 11:37 Merry Christmas to Everyone Here ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 440bx · 2024-12-25 11:45 Quote from: AlexTP on December 25, 2024, 10:25:16 amI live in russian federation which has 100 years of atheism (after anti-Czar 'revolution'). So ppl here respect New Year but pay small attention to Christmas, sad! Also sad is that Christmas is originally a pagan tradition which was conveniently usurped by religion.... and these are the people who preach honesty and are usually prone to deliver a guilt trip to others.... hmmm... great example  Anyway, any day is a good day to wish others have a wonderful day, including Christmas, therefore have a merry Christmas, hope you have a wonderful day regardless of religious beliefs (if any at all.) Hopefully Ukraine won't be bombed today.  It would be nice for them to have  a nice day too (for a change.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alpine · 2024-12-25 12:40 Quote from: AlexTP on December 25, 2024, 10:25:16 amThanks for Merry Christmas. I live in russian federation which has 100 years of atheism (after anti-Czar 'revolution'). So ppl here respect New Year but pay small attention to Christmas, sad! Regardless, Merry Christmas to you and to everyone! I believe in Russia it is celebrated in 7-th of Jan according to the Julian calendar. Are you really not celebrating? Here in BG it was also quiet before, there were no days off and people celebrated at home. But now it's complete shopping frenzy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MarkMLl · 2024-12-25 13:13 Quote from: AlexTP on December 25, 2024, 10:25:16 amThanks for Merry Christmas. I live in russian federation which has 100 years of atheism (after anti-Czar 'revolution'). So ppl here respect New Year but pay small attention to Christmas, sad! In that case I'd point out that even though there might be historical discrepancies between our calendars, Russia and the USSR have long accepted the principle of using timezones relative to UTC. And the 25th December is one of the days on which the Equation of Time- the discrepancy between UTC and Solar Time- is zero. So even if different cultures and different subcultures justify a day of celebration using different arguments, let's enjoy it. MarkMLl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AlexTP · 2024-12-25 14:29 Thanks all. I must correct myself about '100 years of atheism'. Not 100 but 1991-1917 = about 70 years. After 1991 we have Eltsin's time and Pu's time. These times are somewhat filled with Christianity, but still russian federation has church separated from the state (like in USSR). Pu is walking to the Christ church and to the sinagoga (he fires sinagoga's candles there) at the same time, so it is not full rise of the Christianity. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dzandaa · 2024-12-25 16:45 Hi, I don't care of Atheism, Pagan or Christianity, Just take a good time with your peoples. Merry Christmas To all the nice users of this great forum. B-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna · 2024-12-25 16:52 What I Really don’t understand is why Christians allowed Christmas to be truncated from 12 days of celebration down to 2 days {which are mostly about Wasteful consumerism in my experience} I wish I could have experienced Christmas back in its heyday with a lot of singing and celebration that didn’t involve buying stuff made in sweatshops. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Weiss · 2024-12-25 17:24 strange holiday, where believers should have been praying but they don't, bearded clown with shady past, antlered meat animals and chopped coniferous trees. I don't understand why and what we celebrate. New Year eve at least have some real meaning, counter flips one digit (not just a number but integer, eh) and we get drunk and have a party. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Zoran · 2024-12-25 17:37 Merry Christmas! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 440bx · 2024-12-25 17:49 Quote from: Weiss on December 25, 2024, 06:24:38 pmI don't understand why and what we celebrate. Do a google search for Code: Text  [Select][+][-]window.onload = function(){var x1 = document.getElementById("main_content_section"); if (x1) { var x = document.getElementsByClassName("geshi");for (var i = 0; i why do we celebrate christmasyou might find it interesting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MarkMLl · 2024-12-25 17:55 Quote from: Joanna from IRC on December 25, 2024, 05:52:41 pmWhat I Really don’t understand is why Christians allowed Christmas to be truncated from 12 days of celebration down to 2 days {which are mostly about Wasteful consumerism in my experience} Whatever do you mean? Live in the UK and you'd see the Xmas decorations going up at Diwali and staying up until Ramadan... whenever it happened to be. MarkMLl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thaddy · 2024-12-25 18:01 I wish the best for all of you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ackarwow · 2024-12-25 18:36 Quote from: Weiss on December 25, 2024, 06:24:38 pmstrange holiday, where believers should have been praying but they don't, bearded clown with shady past, antlered meat animals and chopped coniferous trees. I don't understand why and what we celebrate. New Year eve at least have some real meaning, counter flips one digit (not just a number but integer, eh) and we get drunk and have a party. Not always, not everywhere. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5-qV7Vx_0 Merry Christmas from Poland! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- VisualLab · 2024-12-26 01:58 Although a bit belated: Merry Christmas. Quote from: Bart on December 25, 2024, 12:05:56 amTraditionally I add my greetings as an excercise in "obfuscated pascal"  Code: Pascal  [Select][+][-]window.onload = function(){var x1 = document.getElementById("main_content_section"); if (x1) { var x = document.getElementsByClassName("geshi");for (var i = 0; i program x_x;...end. Have fun. Very nice Christmas tree “from Ikea”, that is, to “assemble” yourself As suggested, I “assembled it” for myself in Lazarus and I attach what I came out with Quote from: Boleeman on December 25, 2024, 10:04:49 am...(in Melbourne Australia it never snows, but we do have heat waves instead of cold snow) Out of curiosity, I checked the temperature in northern Australia. I thought that at this time of year, Darwin and Cairns are even warmer than Sydney. But Google "says" that the temperature is similar. Where I live, there was a little snow a few days ago. But now it has completely melted. And there is fog. Despite the fact that it is winter. And there should be 20 degrees of frost and at least a meter of snow That's because the authorities of the Union of European Socialist Republics (UESR) are too slow to eliminate excess CO2 Quote from: AlexTP on December 25, 2024, 10:25:16 amThanks for Merry Christmas. I live in russian federation which has 100 years of atheism (after anti-Czar 'revolution'). So ppl here respect New Year but pay small attention to Christmas, sad! Nothing lasts forever. Tyrants and despots are mortal, just like other people. So, someday, something will change for the better in Russia. Let's hope that soon. Quote from: 440bx on December 25, 2024, 12:45:19 pmAlso sad is that Christmas is originally a pagan tradition which was conveniently usurped by religion.... and these are the people who preach honesty and are usually prone to deliver a guilt trip to others.... hmmm... great example  It's not all bad. Many old pre-Christian holidays have been (ostensibly) adopted by Christianity. And in fact, many of them have only a minimal "Christian gilding" or additional elements. It's better that they exist than that they don't exist at all. Quote from: 440bx on December 25, 2024, 12:45:19 pmHopefully Ukraine won't be bombed today.  It would be nice for them to have  a nice day too (for a change.) Let's hope. Quote from: MarkMLl on December 25, 2024, 02:13:41 pmIn that case I'd point out that even though there might be historical discrepancies between our calendars, Russia and the USSR have long accepted the principle of using timezones relative to UTC. The discrepancies concern only the liturgical calendars, since the Orthodox Church sticks to the old method of measuring time. Quote from: AlexTP on December 25, 2024, 03:29:48 pm...After 1991 we have Eltsin's time and Pu's time. These times are somewhat filled with Christianity, but still russian federation has church separated from the state (like in USSR). Pu is walking to the Christ church and to the sinagoga (he fires sinagoga's candles there) at the same time, so it is not full rise of the Christianity. The separation of religion and the State is a good solution, both for religion, the state and ordinary people. Otherwise, various pathologies appear, as can be seen in many countries. In the case of Russia, it is known that the people at the top of the Orthodox Church are quite strongly connected to the government (Pu). This is neither good for the Orthodox Church nor for society. Quote from: Dzandaa on December 25, 2024, 05:45:27 pmJust take a good time with your peoples. Rightly so. This is also necessary for the psyche, such a break from the "grayness of everyday life". And the end of the year is a good time for this. Quote from: Joanna from IRC on December 25, 2024, 05:52:41 pm...which are mostly about Wasteful consumerism in my experience} Well, because it's probably a "tradition" of large American agglomerations that has spread. Unfortunately. Quote from: Weiss on December 25, 2024, 06:24:38 pmstrange holiday, where believers should have been praying but they don't, bearded clown with shady past, antlered meat animals and chopped coniferous trees. I don't understand why and what we celebrate. Everything points to the fact that these holidays are the result of the overlap of different customs from many centuries. And we see the (current) final result. I have nothing against holidays, if they are cheerful and peaceful (maybe I am a little irritated by this consumer chaos). As a child, I always liked that there was a Christmas tree. Today I am not so enthusiastic, but I still like it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna · 2024-12-26 02:00 Quote from: Weiss on December 25, 2024, 06:24:38 pmstrange holiday, where believers should have been praying but they don't, bearded clown with shady past, antlered meat animals and chopped coniferous trees. I don't understand why and what we celebrate. New Year eve at least have some real meaning, counter flips one digit (not just a number but integer, eh) and we get drunk and have a party. Many of the Christmas customs came from pre Christian pagan harvest celebrations where trees were decorated outdoors. When it comes down to it the narrative of the guy who lives at the North Pole and has a sleigh with flying reindeer delivering presents one day a year iis much more pleasant than the stories modern people come up with. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- speter · 2024-12-27 00:27 Quote from: Boleeman on December 25, 2024, 10:04:49 am...(in Melbourne Australia it never snows, but we do have heat waves instead of cold snow) Quote from: VisualLab on December 26, 2024, 02:58:45 amOut of curiosity, I checked the temperature in northern Australia. I thought that at this time of year, Darwin and Cairns are even warmer than Sydney. But Google "says" that the temperature is similar. Darwin usually gets to ~33C during the day; there is some variation though: during the Wet season (now) the relative humidity is ~99%; while during the Dry (~July) the RH is much lower. Overnight, Darwin is usually in the low 20sC - if it goes below 20C everyone breaks out their winter gear. Cairns is similar but a little bit cooler (and gets a bit more rain). Down South (= Melbourne and Sydney) there are many "seasons", yesterday Melbourne had a (mini)heatwave with temps around 39C. The only Aus (state) capital the "sees" snow is Hobart (there is a mountain just west of the city that sometimes get snow). Despite the above, I have heard that there is more snow in the Aus Alps than the Swiss Alps, sadly I don't know whether this is true (I read it on Facebook). cheers S. (Edit: fixed a typo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Boleeman · 2024-12-27 04:32 Typical Melbourne weather at the moment. Heat, Fires, Wind, Rain. Like some sort of washing machine cycle. A number of years ago at this "Summer time" of the year we had a massive hail storm that smashed up a lot of car windscreens. speter, I might need to go down to Tasmania and up to the mountains to escape the heat. Merry Xmas. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- speter · 2024-12-27 05:05 Quote from: Boleeman on December 27, 2024, 05:32:26 amspeter, I might need to go down to Tasmania and up to the mountains to escape the heat. Merry Xmas. At present, I am at a place called "Safety Beach", which is about midway between Brisbane and Sydney. The weather is typically lovely here; at present (4pm) the temp is 27C and the wind is blowing very strongly; the ocean is a beautiful dark blue with lots of white-caps. This place is "famous" (in a local sense) for the kangaroos (who wander through suburbia, eating the grass, and pooing everywhere); but contrary to some stories, generally keep themselves out of people's backyards!  cheers S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- tetrastes · 2024-12-27 15:49 Quote from: speter on December 27, 2024, 01:27:06 amDespite the above, I have heard that there is more snow in the Aus Alps than the Swiss Alps, sadly I don't know whether this is true (I read it on Facebook). I suppose that this was about Austrian Alps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- dseligo · 2024-12-27 19:29 Quote from: tetrastes on December 27, 2024, 04:49:02 pmQuote from: speter on December 27, 2024, 01:27:06 amDespite the above, I have heard that there is more snow in the Aus Alps than the Swiss Alps, sadly I don't know whether this is true (I read it on Facebook). I suppose that this was about Austrian Alps.  I don't think so, I heard that somewhere too. But it is a myth: https://apac.dtn.com/news/does-australia-really-have-more-snow-than- switzerland/ Which reminded me of this page: https://www.x360ce.com/. Click "Austrian version"