Library of Babel lainchan / lit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 00:21 The library of Babel is now real (sorta). Every book that has ever been written, or ever will be written is now at your fingertips. http://libraryofbabel.info/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 00:38 I found the gettysburg address http://libraryofbabel.info/book.cgi What short, copyrighted works can we find in here? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 00:43 >>1242 I must be missing something. The lore is simple enough, but I see no way to find anything other than garbled hex. Does it bank off of the infinite typewriter monkeys idea? Where in what looks to me like obfuscated text are you seeing the Gettysburg Address? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 00:46 >>1242 >>1243 I should say, page 301 of 100qndh2ol7ud4jq24485j0xuaupjoc77xmsct4rzgaftgohpy3s71vxyl0xj7311xmtu3 cgttubbwbpl3mlq76brt85q9b2124j5spqe5h1py2ceuzijg72yydprt6lfheu2i14n2bz 3qt1styazbunq3as7r8vwx7kz2hgkc8g1caj062xg8jqb05np2jqlt82edv575p4abwc95 54ra7934s0c8mcumnj651fze6zmwc1wg2q5v74e365hgm3d0us5dqrnpkfv7locm6631oc kn0ikkyp4th3ldpa66m0ouyly298e2o8oc30373elowrt3zc34z0z5z2rk5zi4juu2wxvm uxq7s5pdjd9ftuaaqgmpz5ktwjhga6gx4oapfgx8oz7c07mtd8qn6mstcyhly1q984v235 gc6e7sf8ea97z6uimn5z8pl0euyewp2n2yggp8jpjddyq3ro602px6rorrog18lne68fgs x0zfc7i74d76kvq2c3vwx37si12ndldc2t58yn8w2qxlg1mxvqckswv3qi4oz1257v1y2t ftng6t4m3jue6gqdzqrlafpfciv1z7umnm3ikl16okqqpq3807nvzhj6sd658ukmwv7agh c1m6lhdi6son7zz0gwt1bxvbkbqazi4xfpi4pjlqn66liorsm0qz216ug3rwn4u6q114z0 hmk82caqmiiygoimm04uolav9jsdmklm6qrvxk0e8yzw4gch4bnfps3bsibfgi6p9m4llf 262z4pbgu3v5sh4p5tk06u6l65z5sg7cflyqj0u66xzddf9ny6iczey8ybtb19xfwlc552 y34hlpixc5wf1ww3dhxhlgya9oomfdxwjokx2ft6ent4nse3biqk0ajggunuh1ni4ktmub ec4c4qf4ory27j8gug8u9wf7k0icsvzgeufz3546bp6id5b5ztx9ej4dm9v1bnnn8vxu23 4tgpjnjki4kee2rpaw1m77wlk3t4ekb86t8uu15wr4kzy4nng6q3uw44u29kb53sd0tpt9 rbwsgtwis4hrmysalzgh1jnipoli04n7jctp8sednl44em6hpp03nted66v1h0ydrbqs2b u7x7tuu9phlnrmqnrp2yhyigh2bdta8j7miwdlt1nakwr1pxj0lbu3eomgnbajm9ddb89m 3xfljveee9f5t2xlvhf650bq73mtmls6gxe6y5t9pjyykcgiqqq2dhqbucxkz3fcbt3j94 dfsv051wa8kb1h0h0emtwwzi0l7ld9tzhd2fxsobqn9nxcp7zp4f17j3xlrgk2s7shu0gk rpmomfkbnfd1x31imx69d4mkrdm2pnhthb9wlshqugirov4sjh1tmq5of67brbqc8gu0uk rhjkegfqyr8uynvioblyi7kt9w72xbr4937zvugheveif1i8h3jt4jcx69otufr2o1xu3y by5m2f93zasbijpz1ld0jd22ws7yhn90j3q5p1idqslgkvslt7r2mqutn9cyp28any2mhs 2h5r738w4xgg4ft9egpe565kcmpzv6na9yqv2gn7a4pia8z0nb32lvbstpo97v4fwc5snu 9gr3m00vciai856de8mumuaj1tm4bj7kplrb887dhf09fbh9oyha84cm5xf1tmb53eoolo n6rprus91712x4ry4rf2y4vnicyen39om5j793f38z242qyhl3z8k9q5ncnk6oqbi6j78q axcbvzvge7pt6kwds9yyvufhko838478lkbfna8lrarz63csvil8ibbhtjjv3cihggl19r 7xk15xe90ke30gc5gjkbynjjxrt2xm32iucn9f08c1josy8mqal4pa6z04c8ljl127cv31 cmhngmf9se54j7m4vbdob7xemvq05d7j8o8spl1q7i9st9rjfp4rrmaymflezjsjonx0ea duhnj1tnkjkb0r7i7f65m59s46583pe7dgfy51vgixks494wrmdan4evb0v36qmffpgfvs 8wh3f617iq6dwenladgseut2llqp05nyfca0k5d44vwnsm30edt437i95u37865328iydk 8zhjylb8ghzz375icibstxzrov0ke8cjfr3i4p00mkx2v7odj6i0phcodtpiid6lgyd2e8 sa60i581x1805b0wx5rhpqymav5zuxhjhhr67pjx10g45r5xertsi885jygqlbi13esq3u b7hzrtng2ri4vzk27ekquixbqqor93edree60z684jqzulpato250dsrovyhtvczrihdsy 06xxvf82i1y3mp7jf8f1dzxclpuql2qpari8l7vf6a2ste5n81nn62ihgjs3xxy78f3vk1 mqr1lu17e1r6hppijyvf5is506edsypj299zx61jua9dul12zoqfalyfc8q1l6ct26jhle gkiwd4sdrghzx94x7z1aggr3mnxa9p01aoxdt0qb8k8wulkuiuq4xdfdq0qo3jirzoyxtp 5tv9vzdf69qrfasg59achbo1iwmt5zz6kmesykfsfjkpmrz5e4canpcpabz5nkuua2o049 s0suger17my46cikq34nhtwroncoyayw8ao0ek99dwq1gm49u3orj9kg87zpqwj5bznnn7 3xxqfoa6fkt12q4hiicfr9hno8q0fwf2sdi64sb8hkcougg5cghd6n0s186mjgh4zp6qry 0ctptfjobb296qd06f39yif3hu9qp044jlfp9ikr23wl4z1bux949dt74mso5orlkj5ygl zmmb5y9notrsa0kya5jmx40am64s79tuqnbntoxwkrsijj2i0hpe33no2odjq9iq653awb oizhhetdotidyyq7jolul0nrvkocigqdut8z4d4mzvfb1tu4viormvm2nyebwvi5ooh2yd 34xbw0lnkynstui6o7rtph6pohxpnkuj3o5mx5jhwy8d1lnxzjh2kcdqlchks06yihqn5s 2rwsxl5nvpax9heedfdky8cnw9zoihxljtwww3txhr3jz4wgbylpdftzeobg5faxq5p1ox fbgxzy9yf154zskgxebfww73q080g5pmckqjchx6euwejp1jb276kqfyor2ok042dc8m02 0k8kiclwld4adxmm6vifpd97sp73fu4sgr786ox47m7q6680jxlpbg9zwedpospsyday2j rajehz4k820e1ycng2jm5x3i951yergoq3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 00:46 >>1243 He didn't use the bookmark properly. Here's a better link. http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?tkmmmyljp6969 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 04:00 http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?gig,xsaaf16 Right at home. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 05:39 I was reading the theory page about the hexagons and it made me think that's the biggest missing part of the library. The hexagons. The rooms themselves. I've not used any, but I think this could be implemented in JanusVR or similar. The way the pages are generated seems like it would lend itself well to the idea. http://libraryofbabel.info/book.cgi?0-w1-s1-v01:2 0 = Room 0 w1 = Wall 1 s1 = Shelf 1 v01:2 = Page 2 of volume 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 06:36 >>1249 >I've not used any, but I think this could be implemented in JanusVR or similar. That would be neat. Now everyone can experience the desolate horror of the library first hand. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 06:40 How hard would it be to have a computers scan the library for books that are comprised only of English words? Also, here's the short story this websites based off of, if you haven't read it yet. http://hyperdiscordia.crywalt.com/library_of_babel.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 07:07 >>1251 or here (sans hyperlinks to footnotes), translated by a gentleman in close collaboration with the author. http://www.digiovanni.co.uk/borges/the-garden-of-branching-paths/the- library-of-babel.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 09:16 Cool, I've just read the Borge's short story recently. Also, http://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?zg.izrwjrco319 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 16:22 >>1253 >Borge's Move the apostrophe one character to the right when reading this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-08 16:45 I found a book that indexes all coherent books in the library but Windows updated and I had to reboot and lost it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-10 15:18 >>1254 >>1253 is borges also im really interested in how the guys made this programming looks really cool ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-10 15:31 >>1255 hwo od you find that? more info plz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-10 16:42 >>1260 I was joking, in the story Borges says such book should exist somewhere in the library. >>1258 Same, it would be neat to have a local copy of the library. That is, a program that can calculate what the content of the nth page would be. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-12 12:19 >>1258 >>1261 http://libraryofbabel.info/theory4.html http://libraryofbabel.info/forum/?topic=searching-across- pages/#post-168 You might just get it at some point. He's looking at making the code public. >>1260 “On some shelf in some hexagon, it was argued, there must exist a book that is the cipher and perfect compendium of all other books, and some librarian must have examined that book; this librarian is analogous to a god.” ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-05-18 00:23 I was being silly and wrote this http://pad.fnordig.de/p/thoughts_on_library_of_babel feel free to add on ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-06-23 00:38 I'm trying to code a virtual library, but Borges' story says the books are written using only twenty-two letters. The librarian who wrote what he knows about the library tells about two books he found, one that reads "MCV" periodically from the first to the last line, and one that reads "Oh tiempo tus pirámides" in the second-to-last page. This shows that there are lower and uppercase letters as well as acuted letters. Moreso, there are three different letters in the first example and eleven more in the second one; adding the uppercases and the five letters that can have acutes in spanish we get thirty-three different characters. Two things keep me from making my version fit the spanish language. First, the obvious sadness of having to discern from the original story and my library wouldn't be the one of Babel. Second, the numbers get even more huge for the quantity of hexagons, and I feel really small against such numbers, and unworthy to span them in my humble program. My solitude saddens from that unelegant fear. >>1275 >the librarians live forever They don't, they die and the bodies are thrown off the library and eventually disintegrate during the fall. They do have children though, so your point is still valid. >uber-librarians The librarians in the lower levels speak old languages and dialects, so they value the books differently. It would be dystopic if they evolved into a language that maximizes the artificial understanding of randomized books. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-06-23 20:53 oh boy the library of babel "Each wall of each hexagon holds 32 books of equal size; each book has 410 pages; each page 40 lines; each line approximately 80 letters. The books consist of all possible combinations of 25 orthographic symbols. Every conceivable book has been written." "William Goldbloom Bloch computes the number of books in the library according to this data: 410 pages times 40 lines times 80 symbols equals 1,312,000 symbols in each book. Since there are 25 orthographic symbols, the total number of possible books is: 25^1,312,000! Putting this unfathomable figure in the power of 10 gives us: 10^1,834,097!5 The universe is currently estimated to be 1.5 × 10^26 meters across, and if we filled the entire universe with sand there would be no more than a paltry 10^90 grains, a sum that doesn’t even begin approximating the number of books in the Library. To give a more concrete feeling for the magnitude of the Library, if we walked 60 miles a day for 100 years, we would travel a distance slightly less than what light covers in two minutes. For light to cross the entire universe, which is minuscule in comparison to the Library, it must travel for at least 15 billion years! Obviously, no less than an immortal librarian would be able to inspect all the Library’s books." I fuarrrking love Borges ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-10 10:19 >mfw the meaning of the universe is written there >the brief story of your whole life ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-12 14:02 soykaf like this is the reason that I come to this board. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-12 14:34 >>1501 here. I had a new thought after re-reading the story. Borges' librarian says the thougt of the library being periodical makes him happy. If after the last book there came the first one again and the library held infinitely many copies of each volume, then my adaptation of the library, if made periodical as well, would have the same quantity of books as the one of Babel. Infinite. Mine would have more different books than the original but the cardinal of both sets would be the same, Aleph 0. My solitude heartens from that elegant hope. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-13 17:21 This really boggles my noggin in the best, weirdest, and most ephemeral of ways. If the Library is just a massive collection of !un!written literature, everything conceivable, doesn't that mean that the Internet itself is simply that comprehensive book of everything in the library described in the story with infinite pages, front to back? So is this Library of Babel the inconceivable middle page that can/can't exist? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-13 20:44 >>1605 Let's see if I understood. The internet gives you access to all written books, so it's like a book that indexes all known literature? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-13 21:53 >>1608 Read the final footnote to the Library of Babylon story. https://libraryofbabel.info/Borges/libraryofbabel.pdf Is not the internet, and the square in front of you called a "computer screen" a smooth, flat plane? And below that, just before your fingerprints can touch, isn't that raw data? Zeros and ones? When you give that amalgam mass of zeros and ones folded infinitely in upon one another a name, you call it simply "the internet." You can go full NEET and spend your whole life on the internet and still never see everything there is to see, and at the rate content is uploaded every day from people just like you, you never could. You can't touch the internet because it truly is everywhere, flying through us, a separate world from our own. I commit tautology. Essentially, not until human consciousness is successfully uploaded within the machine, effectively granting immortality, can we see what lies at the end of the infinite sprawl. The question remains, what will you do when you finally see the end? Will you turn back and go the way you came, hoping to capture something you missed? Will you cast yourself into the Abyss, and hope to become a bridge between the zeros and ones like a link between atoms? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-07-14 02:10 >>1605 >thanks to computers, literally every possible book that could ever be written has already been written Welp, pack it up boys. We can go home now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-15 06:34 The chances of someone actually stumbling upon a fully completed book is so unlikely, isn't it? Isn't this basically trying to brute force books into existence? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-15 21:31 Can't this basically be used instead of paste bin for some things? And if it were created with all characters in mind, couldn't it fully replace it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-15 22:55 >>1754 the indexing system isn't the best - like half a page for every page or something like that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-15 23:04 >>1763 I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate? If you mean that it's mixed with the garble, click exact match when you search. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-24 20:58 >>1249 I thought there were only four rooms per floor, and mirrors have the illusion of infinite non-vertical distance, when it is in fact only infinite vertically? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anonymous · 2015-08-26 19:10 >>1754 I think so, though if it supported all characters then technically the average url for a page would be longer than the text it refers to. Though if books are arranged in a way related to a compression algorithm, most books written in languages targeted by the compression system would have shorter urls. Either way it'd allow one to essentially use a url shortening service to host a file, though that could be done without attempting to create an infinite library.