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Subj : Re: The big picture
To   : alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.tv.firefly
From : Wouter Valentijn
Date : Sat Sep 10 2005 17:18:35

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos

Bozo the Evil Klown wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> So, what do the FIREFLY universe and the original Star Trek universe
>> have in common... and how do they conflict?
>>
>> What they have in common: They both picture a possible near-future
>> (earth-centric)universe.
>>
>> Star Trek was all in favor of UNIFICATION:  Captain Kirk was all -
>> "Join the UFP!"

"If you want to do so."


>>
>> [UFP = United Federation of Planets.]
>>
>> Captain Mal Reynolds OTOH is against the very idea of unification,
>> and he opposes "The Alliance" all he humanly can.
>>
>> IMHO, this can symbolize the basic conflict between those who favor
>> the forces of "unity", versus the forces who most cherish
>> "individuality".
>>
>> Comments? :)
>
>
> Difference is that joining the UFP is voluntary.  The Alliance will
> *force* you to join, at gunpoint, over your own dead body if need be.

Yup. If you don't want to be in the UFP, you don't have to.

>
> Also the Federation (especially TOS-era) was decidedly idealistic: No
> secret evil experiments on someone's sister.

And if Jim Kirk ever found out some nut job was poking around like that he 
would have serious issues with that.

How about this:
If within the Star Trek multiverse the regular universe and the mirror one 
would merge, the Terran Empire would be like the Alliance and the UFP more 
or less like the Independents, who wanted to stay seperate but did join for 
the common cause of fighting the Alliance..

>
> Ironically, the Federation would allow you greater individuality than
> the jack-booted "unity" forced on you by the Alliance.

Why ironically?


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