cdc Subj : Re: TNG vs TOS - anybody still think Next Generation sucks? To : rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.tos From : Amun Date : Sun Oct 02 2005 01:04:57 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos "ANIM8Rfsk" wrote in message news:BF6493F0.54C29%ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net... > in article trH%e.9207$cq2.1300645@news20.bellglobal.com, Amun at > spamblocker@bell.net wrote on 10/1/05 7:23 PM: > > > > > "Magnus, Robot Fighter" wrote in message > > news:1128135066.134024.305330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > >> Amun wrote: > >>> wrote in message > >>> news:1127996499.895183.200500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >>>> I was just reviewing a website about the New Galactica.... about how > >>>> the old fans feel "betrayed" by this new series, and it's inferior to > >>>> the original show, and "please sign this petition to bring back the > >>>> original actors". That reminded me of the Usenet newsgroup > >>>> rec.arts.startrek back in 1987/88/89. Back then Trekkies were up in > >>>> arms & saying the Next Generation was an insult to the original Trek > >>>> series with Kirk, Spock, et cetera (and Picard was a wimp). > >>>> > >>>> Is there anyone out there who, ~15 years later, still thinks TNG is an > >>>> inferior-quality show & and insult to the original series/fans? > >>> > >>> > >>> Next gen still sucks, but just not as badly as voyager or enterprise. > >>> > >>> AMUN > >> > >> Someone else here said it best: rewatchability factor. I saw every > >> episode of TNG in its original run and enjoyed it very much. BUT it's > >> hardly rewatchable. Best of Both Worlds for sure cause it's got a great > >> pace. And wretched as the first 2 seasons of TNG are it's interesting > >> to watch for little things they stopped doing in the later seasons. The > >> music was more bombastic. Picard more of an asshole. Frakes > >> performances get better upon viewings. > >> > >> But I could watch Kirk all day. And that episode with Frank Gorshin! > >> OMG what an eccentric performance. > >> > > > > > > Actually on that note of eccentric performances. > > The few versions of TNG that I did like were the QUE ones. > > Perhaps that was what was missing in TNG, a real off the wall type regular > > character that had a distinct personality. > > You mean like Trelane? :-) Actually YES. (even though the squire of gothos was not in my opinion one of the best episodes) Even most of the single episode characters in trek, had definite personalities that are set when you first saw them. Of course, with Trelaine the end was a total surprise, that nobody expects. (at least the first time you see it) But Trelaine was more of a wesley crusher, than a que. ;) > > > > In any situation, you always knew what Kirk, Spock, Bones, Checkov, Sulu or > > Scotty were going to do or say. > > > > In TNG, ???? > > Even though I hate Whoopi goldberg, at least the guinan character was > > consistent, but that was only a guest part occasionally > > > > DSN at least had Quark > > > > Voyager ???? > > > > Enterprise (retch) > > > > > > > > AMUN > > > > > > -- > > You Can't Stop the Signal > > . 0