729 Subj : Re: Kirk for President To : alt.tv.star-trek.tos From : jsavard Date : Sun Sep 18 2005 22:17:12 From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:16:24 GMT, The Merry Piper wrote, in part: >Perhaps he felt by telling people he was from Iowa he was implicitly >stating he was American? When I've met persons from other countries >on-line I tell them I'm a Texan but that doesn't mean I don't consider >myself a US citizen. >Further, Kirk was familiar enough with historical US documents to >understand them even while being badly mangled. >And he was a big fan of the US "Old West." >And his hero was Abe Lincoln. >None of these are iron-clad proof but they are good indicators. The United States of America did not exist as a soverign nation by the time of the original series; a world government was established even before the time of Archer of the NX-01 Enterprise. Clearly, however, since he was even an apologist for the *Vietnam War* in one episode (A Private Little War), James T. Kirk was definitely an admirer of American values such as liberty, freedom, and democracy. Many Americans admire Athens, but that doesn't make them Greeks. Kirk was obviously of American - as well as Irish - descent, and doubtless he did think of himself as an American just as Jean-Luc Picard thought of himself as a Frenchman, but that doesn't mean either the United States of America or the Republique Francaise still existed in their times as political units. John Savard http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account . 0