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Subj : Re: I BLAME BRAGA
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From : Bozo the Evil Klown
Date : Thu Sep 08 2005 18:06:57

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise


ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article 1126192787.771343.251610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, Bozo the
> Evil Klown at Evilklowwn@aol.com wrote on 9/8/05 8:19 AM:
>
> >
> > lee66132000@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> "The Year of Hell should have taken place over most of the run of Voy,
> >>
> >>
> >>> Nobody's gonna believe this, but it's true: Berman and Braga wanted to
> >>> do exactly that (actually I think they were going to make one season
> >>> into the Year of Hell), but were vetoed by the network suits."
> >>
> >>
> >> The Year of Hell WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN in the first place.  That is
> >> why the reset button was pushed in the end.  I get the feeling that
> >> many people weren't paying attention to the story.
> >>
> >> And I also suspect that the real reason so many bash the show is
> >> because the lead character was a woman.
> >
> >
> > If you read the posts you'll see the reason we bash the show is that
> > the lead character was usually a moron- and for the most part the crew
> > wasn't much better.  Consider that the rare well-done episodes got
> > praise *even though* the lead character was that same woman.
>
> Sure.  I mean, Janeway was an incompetent fool, who got hundreds of her crew
> killed (given all the resets and stuff).  Of course, it was sort of
> necessary, as the series concept requires her to fail every week.  But it's
> got nothing to do with her being a woman; it's got to do with her being an
> idiot.  Right from the first episode, when she got them stranded in the
> Delta Quad in the first place, because she BLEW UP THE WAY HOME having never
> heard of a timer mechanism to delay a blast.
>


Voyager was Starfleet's "short starship."  The special-needs crew
couldn't even wrap their tiny little minds around the concept of saving
or backing up computer files.  I think I could explain to my cat how to
work a timer faster than to the Vger crew.

> Still, she was probably like my third favorite character.  The Doctor was
> first, and Kes was second, and then Janeway a distant third.  She also had a
> nitwit engineer, a nitwit traitorous drug pushing second in command, a
> nitwit 'had to get him out of prison in the first place' pilot, and 3 other
> people (using the term loosely) who varied between wildly over-competent and
> completely non functional depending on the needs of the script from moment
> to moment.
>


Vger and ENT both assigned their best actors to play the CMO, which is
why the Holodoc and Phlox could so often elevate a mediocre script-
until Vger's 7th season when they made the Doctor a whiny caricature
even more annoying than Neelix.

> If she didn't fail every week, they'd have gotten home, and the series would
> have been over, which a lot of us were rooting for.
>
> Of course, at least once, they just freaking GAVE UP.  They found a way to
> go ludicrously fast, but it was dangerous to go ludicrously fast for more
> than a minute, so Janeway just ordered the engine modifications disassembled
> and stuck in storage.  Not studied, reused, tested; just warehoused like the
> Arc of the Covenant on a ship that was running out of everything except for
> whatever it needed.  Completely ignoring that jumps UNDER one minute seemed
> to be perfectly safe, and if they'd made about 10 of them, they'd have been
> home.  You don't have to care about her gender to be annoyed at THAT
> decision.
>


There was also the super-fast shuttle that Kim's zombie girlfriend used
to return to Voyager.

My favorite forgotten tech is still the handy-dandy cure for the common
death that they pulled out of Seven's ass... imilation nanites.

> The only really gender linked criticism I recall was when Q brought them all
> back to Earth, and said 'sleep with me and I'll leave your ship here' and
> standing there, looking at the Earth from orbit, she says 'nope' so he sends
> them all back across the galaxy and everybody that dies from that point on
> is on her head, although of course they were in the first place.  The point
> was made that if it was a female Q, Kirk would have slept with her to save
> his ship. Sisko would have.  Picard would have, but wouldn't have enjoyed
> it.  And Riker would have freaking slept with a MALE Q to save the ship.
> Only Janeway said "I'd rather all these people die than have sex to save
> them"
>


That was how Janeway always decided whether to obey or ignore the Prime
Suggestion: Whichever would endanger the crew was the course she took.

*****
The Joker in the Eeeeeeevil Cabal Deck of Cards.

OZ: So... do you guys steal weapons from the Army a lot?

WILLOW: Well, we don't get cable, so we have to make our own fun.

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