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Subj : Re: This Train Just Went Splat!
To   : alt.tv.er
From : MauiJNP
Date : Sat Sep 24 2005 23:45:46

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.er

>
>>> But it's not a parental responsibility.  Do parents 'teach' children to
>>> walk?
>
>> yes, parents do teach children to walk.
>
> Actually it's a milestone brought on by many inherant skills that come 
> with growth and maturity. Yes, modeling the milestone helps, but healthy 
> children walk with age, not teaching.
>

Modeling is required, not just helpful.  If a child never sees someone walk 
(for example a child raised with a pack of dogs will walk on fours) they 
will not walk until they are shown.


>>>Do they force them to talk before they're ready?
>
>> though not forced, it is a skill that parents need to teach their child.
>
> Again, it's a skill that comes with modeling. Children learn language 
> through many avenues, one being what's called motherese where they imitate 
> sounds. Phyl can jump in here.
>

Yes, parents teach their children and one of the ways they teach them is 
through modeling language.  We agree here.


>
>> one of my nephews wanted to keep nursing when my sister was done (he was 
>> about 15 months old).  he used her as a pacifier to fall asleep.  he is 
>> not emotionally harmed because he was forced to give it up (though the 
>> first several nights he did scream and cry a lot) and he has no lasting 
>> effects from this experience.    i would be interested to see the proof 
>> that breastfeeding an older child is not damaging because in my 
>> experiences, I seen the opposite
>
> I'm sorry your experience with your sister's children was negative.

it wasn't negative at all.  she had a very positive experience breastfeeding 
her second son (the one I mentioned above). the first one is the one that 
didn't go over so well and only lasted 3 months (3 months of full time 
breastfeeding and 2 more months of nightime feedings) before going to the 
bottle (he had reflux and couldn't keep the breastmilk down as well as 
formula). she was very happy to be able to go longer with her second son but 
eventually she just felt that he was old enough.  hopefully her next baby 
(due soon) will go more like the second time.


>When you have your own children you'll make your own decisions and 
>unfortunately be the center of other peoples' opinion of what may or may 
>not be good parenting. Simply nod when they give you their advice and do 
>what you know to be right based on your own research, discussion with 
>pediatrician and most of all, your gut feeling.
>> don't try telling that to my sister, she was biten several times where 
>> blood was drawn
>
> I've been nipped, but never to the point of blood letting! OUCH
>


yeah, her first son was cut off pretty early but had teeth early too so it 
didn't go well together!


> I guess there has to come a point where we understand that there are 
> differing view points, vastly different experiences and a whole lot of 
> research out there. As with so many ER episodes, this one found its PSA 
> and we've latched onto it! Always good for discussion.
>

Nice job with the word "latched".  Its perfectly appropriate for our current 
discussion!  Anyway, I hope no one takes offense to what I say in my posts 
because the majority of it sounds more harsh and close minded than intended. 
For me, debating and discussing topics is one of my favorite things to do 
(though it often drives my friends, family and people online nuts).  It 
doesn't matter the topic and the more controversial, the better.  Even if I 
don't have an opinion, I pick a side and see what happens.

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