Sherman/Hood: Goose Chase Campaign
(August 28,1996)
CW HOST 14: SOMETIMES CALLED SHERMAN'S PURSUIT OF HOOD
CW HOST 14: THIS IS A LITTLE STUDIED CAMPAIGN ALTHOUGH THERE ARE 3 VOLUMES IN
THE OR'S!
CW HOST 14: THIS MAY HAVE BEEN HOOD'S FINEST HOUR AS AN ARMY COMMANDER?
CW HOST 14: LETS SET THE STAGE FIRST....
CW HOST 2: OKAY LET'S LET 14 SET IT UP..SSSH..ME INCLUDED
CW HOST 14: FEDS RESTING IN ATLANTA, HOOD JUST BELOW AT LOVEJOY. CIVIL POP
PARTIALL EVACUATED
CW HOST 14: WTS AND HOOD DUEL IN NEWSPAPERS TRADING INSULTS
CW HOST 14: WE'L TRY TO STAY CHRONOLOGICAL HERE
CW HOST 14: 9/15 HOOD ASKS RICHMOND TO EVACUATE "ABLE BODIED PRISONERS FORM
ANDERSONVOLLE
StatesRats: I just love that newspaper duel between those guys:-)
CW HOST 14: THE REALLY INSULTED EACH OTHER STATES
CW HOST 14: 9/19 HOOD MOVES TO PALMETTO
CW HOST 14: FORREST IS RAIDING LIKE HELL IN TENN
StatesRats: yes..driving Grant nuts
PickettCSA: Give 'em Hell Nathan!
CW HOST 14: AND DAVIS ARRIVES FOR BIG PEP TALK AND PLANNING SESSION
CW HOST 12: WHEN DID HE NOT RAID LIKE HELL?
CW HOST 14: GOOD POINT #12
PickettCSA: Here, here...
StatesRats: Davis's speech was a bit fantastic
MRP55: "OK Guys. They're on our 20 and got the ball....."
CW HOST 14: MORALE IN AT IS TERRIBLE..HOOD IS BOOED IN FRONT OF DAVIS!
MCalvitto: ME TO ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SIGN THEMSELVES "YOUR OBIEDIENT SERVANT
WHILL DRIPPING WITH HATE
PickettCSA: Where's the supplies!!!
CW HOST 14: HARDEE, BLAMED BY HOOD, IS REASSIGNED TO SC
SCIWMCO: Stewart and Hardee wanted Johnson back
CW HOST 14: WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE STRATEGY AT THIS POINT?
RRyals1044: so does Cleburne
VFLOYDREL: sherman's supplies at alatoona
WillUPray: Should Cleburne have replaced Hood?
EAuld66318: kept Johston in command
PickettCSA: Poor Gen. Hood. Leg, arm, mind...
RRyals1044: HECK YES
MRP55: Surrender
CivilWar49: Move Davis to SC and Hardee to Richmond
SCIWMCO: Hood wasn`t ready yet
CW HOST 12: CLEBURNE TOO JUNIOR AN OFFICER
StatesRats: Cleburne couldn't jump up in ranks like that
PickettCSA: but a hell of a fighter.
EAuld66318: Grant thought Johnston would have won in time
VFLOYDREL: beauregard went west
CW HOST 14: DAVIS PUTS OLD BORY OVER HOOD AND TAYLOR..FIGUREHEAD
RRyals1044: but the best there
SCIWMCO: Davis couldn`t bring Johnson back
StatesRats: Hood doesn't listen to Beauregard
VFLOYDREL: bea didn't overrule hood on anything
CW HOST 14: WHERE SHOULD THE ARMY GO? DO WHAT?
MAXED40: attack like hell
WILLIE5: toward nashville
SCIWMCO: Fall back to Stone Mountain
CW HOST 14: DAVIS AND HOOD AGREE TO MOVE NORTH AND SMASH RAIL LINE OF WTS FOR
1
MRP55: Actually, I think there was a secret plan to continue the war until
Sherman had the
MRP55: opportunity to burn Columbia.
LWhite1864: should have moved straight out of Georgia into Tennesseee instead
of Alabama
Nich208131: YeahCleburne should have been put in command,maybe then he
wouldn't have bought it at Frankl
Nich208131: in.
VFLOYDREL: hood didn't work hard at disrupting sherman
StatesRats: Host..Hood thought Sherman was dependent on his rail lines
CW HOST 14: AND 2..NOW GET THIS, IF WTS MOVES EAST OR SOUTH HOOD IS TO FOLLOW
AND ATTACK!!
RaccoonRuf: all lion no fox
StatesRats: since when? Hood wanted to pick the ground of his choosing
CW HOST 14: NO TENN PLAN HERE..FOLLOW SHERMAN AND TAKE HIM HEAD ON
SCIWMCO: Lure sherman out of Georgia like Lee did inPa.
NU74: all teeth, no brains
CW HOST 2: THIS IS AN AOL CHAT ON THE EARLY DAYS OF THE ATLANTA CAMPAIGN NO
CHAT TIL 10PM EDT
StatesRats: no..Host..he was drawing him out to ground of his advantage
CW HOST 14: WAS THIS A GOOD PLAN? WERE THERE ALTERNATIVES
VFLOYDREL: corse couldn't have "held the fort" if hood had sent a strong
enough force against him
LWhite1864: He almost did take Sherman on at LaFayette, GA.
StatesRats: he couldn't take Sherman head on..what else could he do?
VFLOYDREL: his off. didn't want to fight
MAXED40: Wild Turkey Sherman could always get drunk.
CW HOST 14: YOUY ARE RIGHT LWHITE AND WE'LL GET TO THAT
CW HOST 12: KEEP IN MIND THAT SHERMAN WAS NOT A FIGHTER EITHER - HOOD WAS
StatesRats: but try to strike his divided forces..raid his supply lines
RRyals1044: hit and run
CivilWar49: How would Hood have supplied himself with Sherman cleaning out
the larder
RaccoonRuf: too much laudnum for John Bell
CW HOST 14: ANYWAY, BACK TO OUR DIARY: 9/26 WTS SEND CORSE TO ROME WITH A DIV
CW HOST 12: HOOD'S LOGISTICS BASE BECOMES ALABAMA - BUT THAT 'S LATER ON
CW HOST 14: THE THOMAS TO NASHVILLE WITH 2 DIVS;
VFLOYDREL: yea- rome
StatesRats: Thomas was sent to deal with Forrest
StatesRats: unsuccessfully, I might add:-)
CW HOST 14: 0N 10/2 HOOD HITS ACWORTH AND BIG SHANTY AND 9 MILES OF TRACK ARE
GONE!
NU74: No I see Thomas in Nash as a great strategic countermove
StatesRats: yes..that upset Sherman a bit
CW HOST 14: FED SCOUTS CONTINUE TO LOSE HOOD. THE REBEL HARE WAS OFF AND
RUNNING WITH THE YANKEE HOUND
CW HOST 14: AT HIS HEELS
NU74: Sherman was unconcerned
CW HOST 14: WAS WTS INABILITY TO USE CAV A FACTOR HERE?
StatesRats: Sherman had poor reconnaisance
StatesRats: yes..Host
CW HOST 12: DEFINITELY HOST 14 - SHERMAN WAS POOR ITH HIS CAVALRY ELEMENTS
CW HOST 14: EXACTLY STATES
LWhite1864: He had poor Cav leaders
NU74: didn't need it. No large army faced him
CivilWar49: One word: Kilpatrick stunk Okay, two words.
StatesRats: he was always one step behind Hood
VFLOYDREL: cav for recon.
CW HOST 14: AND DIDN'T DIRECT THOSE HE DID HAVE VERY WELL.
VFLOYDREL: grant had the good cav-sheridan
WillUPray: Where was Gen. Wheeler?
StatesRats: NU..it would have helped to keep his garrisons from being bagged
CW HOST 14: WTS NOW HAS ABOUT 65,000 MEN TO HOODS 43,000..ROUGHLY
LWhite1864: Wheeler was facing Sherman
CW HOST 12: WHEELER WAS STILL RECOVERING FROM HIS TENNESSEE RAID - HE WAS
SPENT
AND ARL: Is it possible that by '64 Hood had lost the ability to be a
succcessful commander?
RaccoonRuf: no effective cav. for U.S. until Wilson came
CW HOST 12: LWHITE = THAT CAME ON THE MARCH TO THE SEA
MAXED40: The numbers were always like tha what's new
CivilWar49: Why were Hood's men roughly?
CW HOST 14: LETS REVIEW ALLATOONA FOR A MINUTE
Vpoc: ok
StatesRats: AND..that was his first overall command..
SCIWMCO: Wheeler was on the right watching Shofield and Mcpherson
CW HOST 14: HOOD CLOSED ON 2 SMALL FORTS WITH 900 YANKS AND OVER A MILLION
RATION HIS FOR THE TAKING
LWhite1864: French hit them hard
CW HOST 14: WTS SIGNALS OVER REBELS TO ALLATOONA TO WIRE CORSE FOR HELP
VFLOYDREL: corse came with 1054 men and addede to the garrison
CW HOST 14: WHY DIDN'T REBV CAV CUT THE WIRE?
StatesRats: just in time..too, VF
VFLOYDREL: flags
LWhite1864: Typical example of AOT troops snatching defeat from the jaws of
victory
VFLOYDREL: not telegraph
CivilWar49: They might not have noticed the wire, of corse
StatesRats: used signal flags
RaccoonRuf: hold the fort
CW HOST 14: I AGREE LWHITE
VFLOYDREL: for i am coming
CW HOST 14: FOOLISH MISTAKE AND CRITICAL
CW HOST 12: I THINK THE 7TH ILLINOIS AND THEIR HENRY RIFLES HAD A LOT TO DO
WITH IT LWHITE
WILLIE5: lack of planning
StatesRats: CSA broke off the attack because they thought they would be cut
off..rumor that Sherman was
StatesRats: closing in
Vpoc: Maybe
NU74: rumor?
CW HOST 14: CORSE GETS IN LATE WITH 1100 MEN AND HANGS ON ALL THE NEXT DAY
VFLOYDREL: yes rumor
LWhite1864: Frenah still could have taken Allatoona, Henrys or not
StatesRats: hello, Sykes
NU74: who had cav then?
CW HOST 12: HE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH COMBAT POWER
Sykes5th: Hello all.
CW HOST 12: TERRAIN FAVORS THE DEFENDERS HEAVILY TOO
CW HOST 14: EVEN THOUGH THEY GET MUCH HARDTACK WHY DONT THEY DESTROY RATIONS?
CivilWar49: They didn't like their bacon too crisp?
RaccoonRuf: it boils down to Davis's refusal to appoint anyone who wasn't
West Point.
CW HOST 14: LEGEND SAYS BAD MATCHES...
StatesRats: they tried..
StatesRats: right! they couldn't light the fire
Sykes5th: Should has asked General Van Morrison.
CW HOST 14: ANYWAY..THIS IS A HUGE NEWS STORY, CORSE IS BIG HERO ALL OVER THE
WORLD
NU74: lol
CivilWar49: slow news day....
CW HOST 14: CORSE GIVES US A GREAT LINE AND WTS AND EVEN BETTER ONE.
NU74: hardtack is hell...
StatesRats: isn't Corse wounded?
CW HOST 12: SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT HOOD'S CAVALRY - ONLY HAD JACKSON'S DIV -
ABOUT 2500
LWhite1864: barely
CW HOST 14: HOOD DISAPPEARS AGAIN AFTER ALLATOONA
CW HOST 14: WTS WARNS SLOCUM THAT HOOD MAY BE DOUBLING BACK
NU74: you mean Hood withdraws beyond the cav screen
CW HOST 12: WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING 14 - HOOD BETWEEN SHERMAN AND ATLANTA
BBSBAN: Hey Lee, Steve Brown. Whats tthe latest re SRG & Shiloh?
CW HOST 14: I THINK SO TOO, #12 BUT APPARETNLY HOOD DID NOT
LWhite1864: No news yet, hope to get info soon
CW HOST 14: BY THE WAY..MORALE BY THIS TIME IS SOARING IN THE at
CW HOST 14: MAKE THAT AOT
RaccoonRuf: going home
BBSBAN: Please keep me updated
StatesRats: yes..because they are doing something besides retreating
SCIWMCO: For once
LWhite1864: OK
NU74: damn, that hardtack's good...
CW HOST 14: NOT JUST THAT TENN STUFF THEY FEEL THAT HOOD IS OUT GENERALING
WTS.
CW HOST 14: IS HE?
RaccoonRuf: no
SCIWMCO: No
LWhite1864: Plus they are moving North again
CW HOST 12: MORALE HAD SOARED IN ATTACKS ABOUT
CW HOST 14: SO FAR HOOD IS JUST LUCKY THEN?
RaccoonRuf: the pipe dream about linking up with Marse Robert is unrealistic
CivilWar49: Their morale was so high, Sherman should have led them to
Tennessee.....
StatesRats: no..he's staying on the move
CW HOST 12: HOOD IS DOING WAR BY MANEUVER - HE IS DOING WELL - IF HE HAS AN
OBJECTIVE
Sykes5th: Hood outgeneralling Sherman? He was desperately looking for an
opening for a grand battle.
NU74: ah, there's the rub
CW HOST 14: I AGREE..SO FAR HE IS DOING WELL AND UNCLE BILLY IS FLAMED!
CW HOST 12: GOOD POINT RACCOON
StatesRats: true, Sykes..good ground
SCIWMCO: If he was doing well wts wouldn`t be there
CW HOST 14: AT RESACA HOOD SAID SURRENDER OR WE TAKE NO PRISONERS. YANKS SAID
BUZZ OFF
CW HOST 14: AND HE DID
NU74: another lesson in total war
CivilWar49: Well they were so rude about it, I would have left too
CW HOST 12: SHOULD HAVE GRABBED RESACA
WILLIE5: good time to start
CW HOST 14: WHY #12 DEFENDABLE?
LWhite1864: Hood didnt want to waste the time
NU74: Roger that
CW HOST 12: YES - IT WOULD PUT THE OOSTANAULA RIVER IN HIS FRONT AND BURNED
THE BRIDGES
RaccoonRuf: he drank and took Laudnum Rats . for the pain of his wounds
Sykes5th: Ah, Uncle Billy was just out taking a bit of a stroll and Hood
happened to be stumbling around.
StatesRats: sigh
CW HOST 14: HOOD WAS STILL LOOKING TO FIND THE RIGHT GROUND TO TAKE SHERMAN
SCIWMCO: All Hood knew was to attack
NU74: Franklin sez it all
LWhite1864: Hood did take Tilton and Dalton though
RaccoonRuf: spring hill maybe?
StatesRats: it always worked for him before, SCI
MAXED40: What is wrong with attack? When in doubt attack.
SCIWMCO: I agree
CW HOST 14: DALTON IS SURRENDERED WITH UGLY SCENE ABOUT COLORED TROOPS
NU74: attack and die
CW HOST 12: GOOD PONT RATS - HE HAD SUCCESS WITH THE PUT THE HEAD DOWN AND GO
METHOD
LWhite1864: Somewhat deserved though
SCIWMCO: Amen NU
StatesRats: that was Bate's Division, Host
WILLIE5: you get your generals killed
CW HOST 14: YES
MAXED40: Surrender and die what is the differance. your rights are still
dieing.
LWhite1864: USCT troops had treated CS POWs badly at Dalton after Jonesboro
CivilWar49: His troops did well, but he seemed to lose a limb every time he
attacked
SCIWMCO: DId he think of that?
RaccoonRuf: attack with a plan not head on
Sykes5th: Rats, Hood's attacks worked in 1861 and 1862, not too well after
that.
CW HOST 14: HOOD NOW DESTROYS 20 MILES OF TRACK NORTH OF DALTON..BIG TIME
DAMAGE
LWhite1864: USCt had threatened Govan's Arkansas troops after their capture
at Jonesboro and the AOT lea
LWhite1864: rned of it
StatesRats: huh..Sykes..Chickamauga?
StatesRats: sorry..I digress
SCIWMCO: Worked there SR
CW HOST 14: THAT'S WHAT THEY CLAIMED LWHITE..
Sykes5th: CW14, doing that he helped Uncle Billy make up his mind, leading to
the march.
WillUPray: Good point States
NU74: LW, what is your point?
RaccoonRuf: no problem for yanks . tracks repaired in no time
ROBERTSFAR: what month was the fighting around dalton?
LWhite1864: I have the diary accounts that prove it
Sykes5th: Rats, a lucky chance, he didn't break anyone cause there was no one
there.
CW HOST 14: THIS IS BIG TIME DAMAGE. WHY COULD NOT CS CAV EVER HURT THIS RR?
LWhite1864: Point is that the bad relations were not just because of race at
Dalton
CW HOST 12: BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT FORREST HOST
NU74: Gen Dodge
CW HOST 14: OCTOBER ROBERT..
KAYBROCK: Cause Uncle Billy had a wealth of people/materiel to repair.
CW HOST 14: GOOD POINT #12
SCIWMCO: To busy fighting
CivilWar49: Dodge and the railroad gang
Sykes5th: Agree 12, For some reason Forrest knew how to break a RR, others
didn't.
RaccoonRuf: because N.B.Forrest was in overall command of C.S.cav.
StatesRats: right..he impressed 2,000 blacks
CW HOST 14: CASTEL SAYS CAVALRY NEVER, NEVER, CLOSED A ROAD THE ENEMY WANTED
OPEN
CW HOST 14: BLUE OR GRAY
MAXED40: way to go rats
CW HOST 12: MORGAN DID AT GALLATIN FOR 6 MONTHS
MAXED40: all that is blue is not gold.
StatesRats: yes..he burned the trestle bridges there..Host 12
NU74: It depends on firepowre
CW HOST 12: DROPPED THE TUNNEL
SCIWMCO: Thats the point #12, it took 6 months
Sykes5th: Also depends on how many bridges, passes through mountains,
tunnels, etc.
StatesRats: oops! that was another place..sorry
CW HOST 14: NO PUBLIC DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN HOSTS, #12! JUST NOT DONE, YOU
KNOW
CW HOST 12: IT COULD BE DONE IF DONE PROPERLY 14 - I DISAGREE WITH CASTEL
RaccoonRuf: WTS forced CSA prisoners to walk down mined roads in front of
inf.
CW HOST 14: HOOD SETTLED AT LAFAYETTE AND PREPARED TO FIGHT SHERMAN
LWhite1864: 24 South Carolina of Gists Brigade was stomped at Shipp's Gap
facing 15th AC near LaFayett
CW HOST 14: BUT OFFICERS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST IT.
NU74: why
CW HOST 14: WHY?
SCIWMCO: They wanted him to fail
LWhite1864: I live near LaFayette
WillUPray: No confidence in his leadership
CW HOST 14: IS THAT THE REASON SCI?
StatesRats: they didn't think the numbers were in their favor, and didn't
trust Hood
LWhite1864: Hood did have good ground
CW HOST 14: WTS WAS HURRYING TO GET THERE....
SCIWMCO: They figured Davis would send JOHNSON BACK
NU74: so morale wasn't so high
WILLIE5: no respect for hood
MAXED40: Is that Little PeeDee or Grand PeeDee?
PJ2USREGS: Hood of course was an Eastern General and by a rule - the West
didn't trust the East
Peedee17: Grand
KAYBROCK: Why, in the wake of Johnston's constant retreats, were the troops
still so fond of him?
CW HOST 12: INTERESTING THOUGHT PJ
MAXED40: Way to go Grand
CW HOST 14: OFFICERS AFRAID OF HOOD BUT TROOPS READY TO FIGHT? SOMETHING
WRONG HERE
StatesRats: exactly, PJ..he was seen as an interloper
Peedee17: Is there a general concensus that Hood shouldn't have been put in
charge in GA?
SCIWMCO: They were still alive KB
RaccoonRuf: he treated them fairly and with respect KAY
CW HOST 14: RR DAMAGE SO SEVERE THAT YANKS IN ATLANTA ON SHORT RATIONS
SSKRosse: hello :)
StatesRats: because, KAY..Johnston did what he could to spare his men..in
battle situation
CW HOST 12: MORALE DID FALL DURING THE RETREATS KAY
NU74: bummer!
PJ2USREGS: Even Longstreet was seen as a stranger - never trusted him either
- plus Hood was political
SCIWMCO: Hodd wasn`t ready PD
CW HOST 14: SHERMAN IS REALLY ON THE PROD..BOMBARDING GRANT TO LET HE\IM GO
EAST!
RaccoonRuf: yes PeeDee
KAYBROCK: Why was Hardee passed over for command?
Tshelbydun: if no respect for hood is ture why did troops hang in until after
franklin?
Sykes5th: Johnston understood what few did, territory mean nothing if you
have no army.
PJ2USREGS: Sherman was happy when Hood took over - "maybe now I can whip him
when he comes out"
StatesRats: Host 14, Sherman was tired of chasing Hood..he hated that kind of
warfare
SCIWMCO: They were rebs, Ts
NU74: and he knew he would come out
CW HOST 14: YOU'RE RIGHT STATES..HE WANTED T BE OFF AND RUNNING
PJ2USREGS: Hood was reckless and tactically a poor general
CW HOST 14: COULD SHERMAN EVER CATCH HOOD IN STERN CHASE?
StatesRats: KAY..Davis chose Hood over Hardee....Hardee requested transfer
CW HOST 12: HARDEE ALSO TURNED IT DOWN IN DECEMBER 1863
KAYBROCK: Was it because Hardee had been so vehemently anti-Bragg, whom Davis
backed/
PJ2USREGS: One of the best brigade and division commanders but a lousy Corps
and Army CO
StatesRats: no..there was over 200 miles between them in Nov..
PJ2USREGS: Not everyone can command at such a demanding level
MAXED40: Where was Forrest?
Sykes5th: I remember you Alamo.
RaccoonRuf: even R.E.Lee thought Hood was a bad choice
CW HOST 14: BUT NOT AT GADSDEN, STATES
KAYBROCK: Wreakign havoc in West Tenn. about that time, Maxed.
StatesRats: Hood could move his infantry faster than any other
general..according to historians
CW HOST 14: HOOD TOLD BORY HIS PLAN AT GADSDEN LETS REVIEW IT
NU74: into a crossfire?
LWhite1864: The Aot got new Cloths and Shoes there
CW HOST 12: IT WAS A GOOD MANEUVER CAMPAIGN STATES - IF HE COULD DO SOMETHING
WITH IT
LWhite1864: Morale soaring
Tshelbydun: Hood had been in Richmond recovering from a wound and beged for
command
Sykes5th: States, with no supplies, baggage trains and little artillery you
can move pretty darn fast.
PJ2USREGS: Sure, but were they WISE moves???? Not always - but he was
agressive which was liked
RaccoonRuf: if you don't count Forrest's dragoons Rats
PJ2USREGS: When Hood left Columbia - he left all behind and ran for Spring
Hill and Nashville
CW HOST 12: DAVIS HAD WANTED TO GO BACK TO TENNESSEE IN SPRING 1864
CW HOST 14: HOOD'S PLAN AT END OF CAMPAIGN WAS WHAT? DEMENTED?
StatesRats: hello, Trooper
TrooperC7: howdy Rats..:-)
PJ2USREGS: Everyone thought Tenn. was the promised land - recruits and food
SCIWMCO: Desperate #14
StatesRats: no..it wasn't thought to be to anyone at the time
AC TIDE: I thought they went east towards Chattanooga from Columbia
LWhite1864: Nashville was the Ruby they sought
Sykes5th: Hood was in the midst of a delusion-that one profound charge would
break the Yanks.
CW HOST 12: ONLY COPPER MINE AT COPPER HILL NEAR CHATTANOOGA TOO
NU74: all was timed for the election
StatesRats: recruits especially, PJ
CW HOST 14: MORE THAN DESPARATE, I THINK/..HOOD'S MEMOIR SOUND SURREAL
AC TIDE: There wasnt a Copper mine there then though
SCIWMCO: Who`s in the CSA didn`t #14?
CW HOST 12: AT DUCKTOWN/COPPER HILL - YES
CW HOST 14: PGT LIKED IT OF COURSE..HE LIKED ANY HAREBRAINED SCHEME.
LWhite1864: Copper Hill was the only large supplier of Copper for the
Confederacy
StatesRats: his plan was to march through Cumberlands and come out in Grant's
rear..
PJ2USREGS: I admire Hood as a man and until he became embroiled with Bragg -
he was just a soldier
StatesRats: relieve the pressure on Lee
CW HOST 12: DAVIS HAD VISIONS OF HOOD ON THE OHIO TOO
AC TIDE: yes I know the mine but I thought it wasnt that old, its depleted
now
CW HOST 14: 11/1 GRANT TO SHERMAN...SMASH HOOD FIRST!!!"
PJ2USREGS: Hoods men commented on Tenn. and how "fat" the land was - the
owners had taken the oath
StatesRats: so did Grant..Host 12
PJ2USREGS: of allegiance
LWhite1864: Hood could have done a lot of damage in Ohio
CW HOST 14: 11/2 GRANT TO SHERMAN....oK, OK, SO GO ANYWAY
RaccoonRuf: it was all over for southern independence after Atlanta. and the
elections of 64
Sykes5th: CW14, yes at the time Grant wasn;t aware how bad off the AOT was.
Tshelbydun: what were Hood's options now that he was in N Ala. but to go
North for Supply or follow Bill
PJ2USREGS: The idea of the march to Ohio was to draw Grant from Lee and
Sherman from Atlanta
PJ2USREGS: neither worked
CW HOST 14: LETS SUM UP THIS CAMPAIGN...GOOD, BAD ?
CW HOST 12: GOOD POINTTSHELBY = WHAT WERE THE RATIONAL OPTIONS - IF ANT?
CW HOST 12: ANY?
KAYBROCK: What would have been the net benefit/loss had Hood contested the
march to the sea?
AC TIDE: Do you think the outcome of the 64 election was ever really in
question
LWhite1864: Hood never got far enough to see
SCIWMCO: bad
Sykes5th: Hood in his mind, was back in 1862, reliving the glory days of
flank marches and gallant charges.
CW HOST 12: IF ATLANTA HAD HELD UNTIL LATE OCTOBER - YES AC
PJ2USREGS: Hood couldn't hve stopped Sherman - but if he had got far enough -
he could have effected VA
CW HOST 14: SURELY FOLLOWING SHERMAN MADE MORE SENSE THAN TENN?
KAYBROCK: which all goes back to bragg screwing up at Chattanooga
CW HOST 12: I THINK SO IN THE LONG RUN -14
StatesRats: Stanton said the Federal treasury could not take another campaign
after 64'
RaccoonRuf: if Hood had of gotten north of Billy boy it would have been
interresting
StatesRats: they just needed to prolong the war
Sykes5th: Kay, leave poor Braggy alone!
ROBERTSFAR: had wilson started his al/ga campaign by oct?
CW HOST 14: HOOD COULD HAVE PLAYED HELL WITH SHERMAN IN GA
AC TIDE: I Think Chattanooga had allready decided it
Tshelbydun: N Ala had no Supply to suport Army, Army to weak to Fight Billy,
go North to ditract Billy
PJ2USREGS: Hood lost 20,000 men outside Atlanta to Sherman - he couldn't
afford another series of those
CW HOST 12: THE SOUTH ALMOST PULLS IT OFF IN 1864 - AT NO OTHER TIME WERE
THEY CLOSE
LWhite1864: Hood could have messed with several major US cities
CW HOST 12: NOT THAT MUCH PJ
NU74: politically, the south could not abandon the deep south by moving AOT
towards the east
CW HOST 14: WELL, FOLKS WE HAVE NOT AGREED ON THE VALUE OF THIS CAMPAIGN?
PJ2USREGS: kind of losses - so I guess he made the choice he felt right -
it's hard for us to judge as
Sykes5th: If Hood had followed Sherman, Thomas would have followed him.
SCIWMCO: Go back to Virginia and at least help Lee
PJ2USREGS: we sit here nice and comfortable - Armchair generals that we are.
CW HOST 14: SOONER OR LATER SYKES..MOSTLY LATER
RaccoonRuf: the 64 elections were really in doubt AC .even Abe wasn't so sure
LWhite1864: Could have moved against Washington
CW HOST 12: BUT HOW DOD YOU GET TO VIRGINIA - LOSE AUGUSTA AND THE POWDER
MILL
CW HOST 12: THE WAR IS OVER ANYWAY
NU74: Sykes - your right
AC TIDE: Ive read that but dont buy it
SCIWMCO: Good point 12, Only Lee could save it
CW HOST 14: WELL, EVERYONE, THANKS FOR LISTENING ON THIS CURIOUS, LITTLE
SIDESHOW
CW HOST 14: OF A CAMPAING
CW HOST 12: HISTORIAGROPHY IS AGAINST YOU AC
Sykes5th: Was interesting.
RaccoonRuf: you mean old slow trot Sykes
CW HOST 14: #12..YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING AS WE CLOSE?
PJ2USREGS: Hey watch the comments about Sykes - One of the best General in
the Union
Sykes5th: Raccoon, too bad Hood couldn't slow down his desire to trot.
CW HOST 12: I THINK THAT HOOD SHOWED SOME MANEUVER SKILL IN THIS CAMPAIGN -
BUT COULD
CW HOST 12: NOT BRING IT TO A GOOD CONCLUSION AS HE WOULD NOT COMMIT TO
DECIDE ANY ISSUE
LWhite1864: Some one should write a study of this campaign
PJ2USREGS: right host 12 - some flashes of the old brilliance, but they said
that with the loss of the
CW HOST 14: I AGREE #12..STARTED OFF WELL THEN KIND OF DRIBBLED OUT IN THE
END
CWHOST 2: THANK YOU ALL AND GOOD NIGHT!