Posts by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
 (DIR) Post #B5FCBX30ac7VuGVbH6 by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @adbenitez It's easy to say that one doesn't need better protocols after those better protocols have become so ubiquitous that you don't even realize how you're using them yourself.Apple APNS and Google FCM use #XMPP technology to deliver push messages instantly. All the other messengers listed (#Signal, #Element, #DeltaChat) thus use XMPP technology. Everyone uses XMPP, but when it is about marketing, suddenly XMPP is not necessary.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5FHa6WIr3gGdwkOHo by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @delta @adbenitez Yes DeltaChat is a messenger and XMPP is a protocol.Why is the advertising towards DeltaChat so obsessed with protocols? Just say "DeltaChat is better than Conversations, because it provides a consistent UX across platforms including iOS." This would render your point much easier to understand for everyone and wouldn't require you to badmouth protocols you're relying on yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5FIfqPnkG2wO20VG4 by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @delta I mean for example the post I was originally replying to. Or your reply to my reply literally having "protocols" as the second word.My post was about protocols, because it was a reply to one that was about protocols. When you noticed how the advertising based on protocols gets debunked, you quickly shift to something else.I'm not saying DeltaChat is bad. Just get your marketing sorted and focus on UX rather than standards, protocols or encryption.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5FK4KC2mZ33e6oEFM by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @adbenitez @delta Sure, so let's stop framing DeltaChat as a "chat app that uses #SMTP + #IMAP at its backbone". It's either just "chat app" or "chat app that uses a bunch of standard protocols (incl. SMTP, IMAP, OpenPGP, MIME, XMPP, HTTP, TLS), proprietary protocols and proprietary extensions to standard protocols". The latter doesn't have the markting ring to it, so maybe just stick with "chat app" and stop talking about protocols at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5FP4Bct8MMSqY7QkC by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @delta @adbenitez consistent UX, except when not.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5NtE4mdyt8oPSzdk8 by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @SrRochardBunson Yes, #XMPP works without issues in China. #DeltaChat in contrast did have issues on Android because of it using Firebase Cloud Messaging for push notifications which seems to be blocked in China. I could still read Delta Chat messages when opening the app, but I wouldn't receive live notifications when Delta Chat is closed.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5NtE53exckhGExEGW by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @SrRochardBunson Maybe @delta can add support for @unifiedpush , so that notifications can be routed through XMPP with Conversations' built-in unifiedpush distributor?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5NvmvPp0FzNOn3z3Q by pixelschubsi@troet.cafe
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       @delta I did allow Delta Chat to run in background, but it doesn't seem to help reliably. Maybe great firewall somehow closes the idleing IMAP connection after a while (they do generally close connections) and Delta Chat didn't manage to reconnect afterwards?