Freeborn did not like to be beaten; he began again. Religion, he
said, was a matter of the heart; no one could interpret Scripture
rightly whose heart was not right. Till our eyes were enlightened, to
dispute about the sense of Scripture, to attempt to deduce from
Scripture, was beating about the bush: it was like the blind disputing
about colours.
“If this is true,” said Bateman, “no one ought to argue about
religion at all; but you were the first to do so, Freeborn.”
“Of course,” answered Freeborn, “those who have found the
truth are the very persons to argue, for they have the gift.”
“And the very last persons to persuade,” said Sheffield; “for they
have the gift all to themselves.”
“Therefore true Christians should argue with each other, and with no
one else,” said Bateman.
“But those are the very persons who don't want it,” said Sheffield;
“reasoning must be for the unconverted, not for the converted. It is
the means of seeking.”
Freeborn persisted that the reason of the unconverted was carnal,
and that such could not understand Scripture.
“I have always thought,” said Reding, “that reason was a general
gift, though faith is a special and personal one. If faith is really
rational, all ought to see that it is rational; else, from the nature
of the case, it is not rational.”
“But St. Paul says,” answered Freeborn, “that 'to the natural man
the things of the Spirit are foolishness.'”
“But how are we to arrive at truth at all,” said Reding, “except by
reason? It is the appointed method for our guidance. Brutes go by
instinct, men by reason.”
They had fallen on a difficult subject; all were somewhat puzzled
except White, who had not been attending, and was simply wearied; he
now interposed. “It would be a dull world,” he said, “if men went by
reason: they may think they do, but they don't. Really, they are led by
their feelings, their affections, by the sense of the beautiful, and
the good, and the holy. Religion is the beautiful; the clouds, sun, and
sky, the fields and the woods, are religion.”
“This would make all religions true,” said Freeborn, “good and bad.”
“No,” answered White, “heathen rites are bloody and impure, not
beautiful; and Mahometanism is as cold and as dry as any Calvinistic
meeting. The Mahometans have no altars or priests, nothing but a pulpit
and a preacher.”
“Like St. Mary's,” said Sheffield.
“Very like,” said White; “we have no life or poetry in the Church of
England; the Catholic Church alone is beautiful. You would see what I
mean if you went into a foreign cathedral, or even into one of the
Catholic churches in our large towns. The celebrant, deacon, and
subdeacon, acolytes with lights, the incense, and the chanting—all
combine to one end, one act of worship. You feel it is really a
worshipping; every sense, eyes, ears, smell, are made to know that
worship is going on. The laity on the floor saying their beads, or
making their acts; the choir singing out the Kyrie; and the
priest and his assistants bowing low, and saying the Confiteor
to each other. This is worship, and it is far above reason.”
This was spoken with all his heart; but it was quite out of keeping
with the conversation which had preceded it, and White's poetry was
almost as disagreeable to the party as Freeborn's prose.
“White, you should turn Catholic out and out,” said Sheffield.
“My dear good fellow,” said Bateman, “think what you are saying. You
can't really have gone to a schismatical chapel. Oh, for shame!”
Freeborn observed, gravely, that if the two Churches were
one, as had been maintained, he could not see, do what he would, why it
was wrong to go to and fro from one to the other.
“You forget,” said Bateman to White, “you have, or might have, all
this in your own Church, without the Romish corruptions.”
“As to the Romish corruptions,” answered White, “I know very little
about them.”
Freeborn groaned audibly.
“I know very little about them,” repeated White eagerly, “very
little; but what is that to the purpose? We must take things as we find
them. I don't like what is bad in the Catholic Church, if there is bad,
but what is good. I do not go to it for what is bad, but for what is
good. You can't deny that what I admire is very good and beautiful.
Only you try to introduce it into your own Church. You would give your
ears, you know you would, to hear the Dies iræ.”
Here a general burst of laughter took place. White was an Irishman.
It was a happy interruption; the party rose up from table, and a tap at
that minute, which sounded at the door, succeeded in severing the
thread of the conversation.
It was a printseller's man with a large book of plates.
“Well timed,” said Bateman;—“put them down, Baker: or rather give
them to me;—I can take the opinion of you men on a point I have much
at heart. You know I wanted you, Freeborn, to go with me to see my
chapel; Sheffield and Reding have looked into it. Well now, just see
here.”
He opened the portfolio; it contained views of the Campo Santo at
Pisa. The leaves were slowly turned over in silence, the spectators
partly admiring, partly not knowing what to think, partly wondering at
what was coming.
“What do you think my plan is?” he continued. “You twitted me,
Sheffield, because my chapel would be useless. Now I mean to get a
cemetery attached to it; there is plenty of land; and then the chapel
will become a chantry. But now, what will you say if we have a copy of
these splendid medieval monuments round the burial-place, both
sculpture and painting? Now, Sheffield, Mr. Critic, what do you say to
that?”
“A most admirable plan,” said Sheffield, “and quite removes my
objections.... A chantry! what is that? Don't they say Mass in it for
the dead?”
“Oh, no, no, no,” said Bateman, in fear of Freeborn; “we'll have
none of your Popery. It will be a simple, guileless chapel, in which
the Church Service will be read.”
Meanwhile Sheffield was slowly turning over the plates. He stopped
at one. “What will you do with that figure?” he said, pointing to a
Madonna.
“Oh, it will be best, most prudent, to leave it out; certainly,
certainly.”
Sheffield soon began again: “But look here, my good fellow, what do
you do with these saints and angels? do see, why here's a complete
legend; do you mean to have this? Here's a set of miracles, and a woman
invoking a saint in heaven.”
Bateman looked cautiously at them, and did not answer. He would have
shut the book, but Sheffield wished to see some more. Meanwhile he
said, “Oh yes, true, there are some things; but I have an
expedient for all this; I mean to make it all allegorical. The Blessed
Virgin shall be the Church, and the saints shall be cardinal and other
virtues; and as to that saint's life, St. Ranieri's, it shall be a
Catholic 'Pilgrim's Progress.'”
“Good! then you must drop all these popes and bishops, copes and
chalices,” said Sheffield; “and have their names written under the
rest, that people mayn't take them for saints and angels. Perhaps you
had better have scrolls from their mouths, in old English. This St.
Thomas is stout; make him say, 'I am Mr. Dreadnought,' or 'I am Giant
Despair;' and, since this beautiful saint bears a sort of dish, make
her 'Mrs. Creature Comfort.' But look here,” he continued, “a whole set
of devils; are these to be painted up?”
Bateman attempted forcibly to shut the book; Sheffield went on: “St.
Anthony's temptations; what's this? Here's the fiend in the shape of a
cat on a wine-barrel.”
“Really, really,” said Bateman, disgusted, and getting possession of
it, “you are quite offensive, quite. We will look at them when you are
more serious.”
Sheffield indeed was very provoking, and Bateman more good-humoured
than many persons would have been in his place. Meanwhile Freeborn, who
had had his gown in his hand the last two minutes, nodded to his host,
and took his departure by himself; and White and Willis soon followed
in company.
“Really,” said Bateman to Sheffield, when they were gone, “you and
White, each in his own way, are so very rash in your mode of speaking,
and before other people, too. I wished to teach Freeborn a little good
Catholicism, and you have spoilt all. I hoped something would have come
out of this breakfast. But only think of White! it will all out.
Freeborn will tell it to his set. It is very bad, very bad indeed. And
you, my friend, are not much better; never serious. What could
you mean by saying that our Church is not one with the Romish? It was
giving Freeborn such an advantage.”
Sheffield looked provokingly easy; and, leaning with his back
against the mantelpiece, and his coat-tail almost playing with the
spout of the kettle, replied, “You had a most awkward team to drive.”
Then he added, looking sideways at him, with his head back, “And why
had you, O most correct of men, the audacity to say that the English
Church and the Romish Church were one?”
“It must be so,” answered Bateman; “there is but one Church—the
Creed says so; would you make two?”
“I don't speak of doctrine,” said Sheffield, “but of fact. I didn't
mean to say that there were two Churches; nor to deny
that there was one Church. I but denied the fact, that what are
evidently two bodies were one body.”
Bateman thought awhile; and Charles employed himself in scraping
down the soot from the back of the chimney with the poker. He did not
wish to speak, but he was not sorry to listen to such an argument.
“My good fellow,” said Bateman, in a tone of instruction, “you are
making a distinction between a Church and a body which I don't quite
comprehend. You say that there are two bodies, and yet but one Church.
If so, the Church is not a body, but something abstract, a mere name, a
general idea; is that your meaning? if so, you are an honest
Calvinist.”
“You are another,” answered Sheffield; “for if you make two visible
Churches, English and Romish, to be one Church, that one Church must be
invisible, not visible. Thus, if I hold an abstract Church, you hold an
invisible one.”
“I do not see that,” said Bateman.
“Prove the two Churches to be one,” said Sheffield, “and then I'll
prove something else.”
“Some paradox?” said Bateman.
“Of course,” answered Sheffield, “a huge one; but yours, not mine.
Prove the English and Romish Churches to be in any sense one, and I
will prove by parallel arguments that in the same sense we and the
Wesleyans are one.”
This was a fair challenge. Bateman, however, suddenly put on a
demure look, and was silent. “We are on sacred subjects,” he said at
length in a subdued tone, “we are on very sacred subjects; we must be
reverent,” and he drew a very long face.
Sheffield laughed out, nor could Reding stand it. “What is it?”
cried Sheffield; “don't be hard on me? What have I done? Where did the
sacredness begin? I eat my words.”
“Oh, he meant nothing,” said Charles, “indeed he did not; he's more
serious than he seems; do answer him; I am interested.”
“Really, I do wish to treat the subject gravely,” said Sheffield; “I
will begin again. I am very sorry, indeed I am. Let me put the
objection more reverently.”
Bateman relaxed: “My good Sheffield,” he said, “the thing is
irreverent, not the manner. It is irreverent to liken your holy mother
to the Wesleyan schismatics.”
“I repent, I do indeed,” said Sheffield; “it was a wavering of
faith; it was very unseemly, I confess it. What can I say more? Look at
me; won't this do? But now tell me, do tell me, how are we one
body with the Romanists, yet the Wesleyans not one body with us?”
Bateman looked at him, and was satisfied with the expression of his
face. “It's a strange question for you to ask,” he said; “I fancied you
were a sharper fellow. Don't you see that we have the apostolical
succession as well as the Romanists?”
“But Romanists say,” answered Sheffield, “that that is not enough
for unity; that we ought to be in communion with the Pope.”
“That's their mistake,” answered Bateman.
“That's just what the Wesleyans say of us,” retorted Sheffield,
“when we won't acknowledge their succession; they say it's our
mistake.”
“Their succession!” cried Bateman; “they have no succession.”
“Yes, they have,” said Sheffield; “they have a ministerial
succession.”
“It isn't apostolical,” answered Bateman.
“Yes, but it is evangelical, a succession of doctrine,” said
Sheffield.
“Doctrine! Evangelical!” cried Bateman; “whoever heard! that's not
enough; doctrine is not enough without bishops.”
“And succession is not enough without the Pope,” answered Sheffield.
“They act against the bishops,” said Bateman, not quite seeing
whither he was going.
“And we act against the Pope,” said Sheffield.
“We say that the Pope isn't necessary,” said Bateman.
“And they say that bishops are not necessary,” returned Sheffield.
They were out of breath, and paused to see where they stood.
Presently Bateman said, “My good sir, this is a question of fact, not of argumentative cleverness. The question is, whether it is not
true that bishops are necessary to the notion of a Church, and
whether it is not false that Popes are necessary.”
“No, no,” cried Sheffield, “the question is this, whether obedience
to our bishops is not necessary to make Wesleyans one body with us, and
obedience to their Pope necessary to make us one body with the
Romanists. You maintain the one, and deny the other; I maintain both.
Maintain both, or deny both: I am consistent; you are inconsistent.”
Bateman was puzzled.
“In a word,” Sheffield added, “succession is not unity, any more
than doctrine.”
“Not unity? What then is unity?” asked Bateman.
“Oneness of polity,” answered Sheffield.
Bateman thought awhile. “The idea is preposterous,” he said: “here
we have possession; here we are established since King Lucius's
time, or since St. Paul preached here; filling the island; one
continuous Church; with the same territory, the same succession, the
same hierarchy, the same civil and political position, the same
churches. Yes,” he proceeded, “we have the very same fabrics, the
memorials of a thousand years, doctrine stamped and perpetuated in
stone; all the mystical teaching of the old saints. What have the
Methodists to do with Catholic rites? with altars, with sacrifice, with
rood-lofts, with fonts, with niches?—they call it all superstition.”
“Don't be angry with me, Bateman,” said Sheffield, “and, before
going, I will put forth a parable. Here's the Church of England, as
like a Protestant Establishment as it can stare; bishops and people,
all but a few like yourselves, call it Protestant; the living body
calls itself Protestant; the living body abjures Catholicism, flings
off the name and the thing, hates the Church of Rome, laughs at
sacramental power, despises the Fathers, is jealous of priestcraft, is
a Protestant reality, is a Catholic sham. This existing reality, which
is alive and no mistake, you wish to top with a filagree-work of
screens, dorsals, pastoral staffs, croziers, mitres, and the like. Now
most excellent Bateman, will you hear my parable? will you be offended
at it?”
Silence gave consent, and Sheffield proceeded.
“Why, once on a time a negro boy, when his master was away, stole
into his wardrobe, and determined to make himself fine at his master's
expense. So he was presently seen in the streets, naked as usual, but
strutting up and down with a cocked hat on his head, and a pair of
white kid gloves on his hands.”
“Away with you! get out, you graceless, hopeless fellow!” said
Bateman, discharging the sofa-bolster at his head. Meanwhile Sheffield
ran to the door, and quickly found himself with Charles in the street
below.